NYC to confiscate guns

| December 10, 2013

I goofed. A few weeks back a very good friend sent me a copy of the letter that New York City sent to 500 residents ordering them to turn-in, alter or move out of the city their rifles which could have more than five rounds ready to fire. I thought it was a bogus story, because I’d never heard of any such law, and I knew that NYS’ SAFE Act limited guns to seven rounds. But according to Fox News, New York City has had that law on the books since 2010 and just now decided to enforce it;

The demand came in the form of some 500 letters mailed out to owners of registered long guns that are in violation of a 2010 city ordinance. The first option for the letter’s recipient is to, “Immediately surrender your Rifle and/or Shotgun to your local police precinct, and notify this office of the invoice number. The firearm may be sold or permanently removed from the City of New York thereafter.”

The notices, mailed Nov. 18, also give owners the options of demonstrating the gun has been moved out of NYPD jurisdiction or modified by a licensed gunsmith to comply with the law.

Although an NYPD spokeswoman told FoxNews.com the law has been on the books since 2010, critics say this year is the first time the notices were so widely dispersed.

But, you know, gun registration should never be construed as a means to come for your guns…until it happens. Here’s the letter;

New York gun letter

Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists

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Just An Old Dog

The government tends to try to impede on personal freedoms based on loose interpretations of what the founding fathers said their duties were.

Ex-PH2

@43, It’s a seriously bad attempt to copy a chief’s rate badge, SO bad, in fact, that it’s a dead giveaway that Bernath is a lying SOS. I looked up the crew list for the Yorktown when he was assigned to it. It’s not a complete list, but there was one PH3 who was a squadron photographer, who could be contacted about Bernath to find out if he was the same dipstick then that he is now.

Bernath is claiming 15 years, but wears hashmarks for 20 years of service, when he had only 3.5 AD, then 2 in reservese. He left the Navy as PH2, had no formal training as a PH – just OJT – and claims HE photographed the Apollo 8 splashdown, when the only shot on his ‘bio’ page is a badly copied photo released by NASA to the news services. I have serious doubts about anything that he did and believe me, I can still ask basic photo lab questions on the 3rd & 2nd class tests, which I have doubts he could answer. There’s a lot of other stuff, too, but let’s wait until Scotty sends him over here. 🙂

And, for what it’s worth, the people who want to relieve you of your weapons are the biggest cowards on the planet. They are afraid of their own shadows, but they’ll gawk at someone in a bad accident as if hypnotized by it and block traffic while they stare at the mess. They are fascinated by violence. It’s the reason violent movies are so very popular. But they wilt in the presence of real violence. When they see something they don’t understand or recognize, they step on it or poke it with a stick and run away. They have all the courage of warm jello. I don’t want them as neighbors.

A Proud Infidel

Ex-PH2, that has also happened in California, where “Red State-type folks” have motioned to divorce themselves from the leftist loons in charge of that State!

vietnam war protestor a.k.a. u.s.s. liberty

The parents of the sany hook school who’s children were massacred should sit in judgement of the nra and put an end to its evilness! By the way president Obama should of apologized to the south african people for the cia’s march 1962 helping the south african government in arresting Nelson Mandela. But liberals are doing their best to turn ameriKKKa into America and eradicate its evil ways!

A Proud Infidel

Vwpisshead, I ask you again, how many of these mass shootings DID NOT happen in a “Gun-Free Zone”? Cowards that perpetrate such acts look for places where they will have no armed resistance, thus making schools among their first choices. The coward that carried out that attack was not allowed by law to own or possess those guns, and that did not stop him. His Mother tried to have him committed prior to the attack, and the system failed again.

Yes, fool, you lose yet again.

Hondo

vietnam war protestor: libidiots like yourself are the ones with the blood of the Sandy Hook innocents on their hands. Libidiots like you are the ones who passed the laws making it impossible for the Sandy Hook shooter, Adam Lanza, to be involuntarily committed before he committed an act of violence. He was full-blown batsh!t crazy, and his own mother was trying to have him committed. The Connecticut courts wouldn’t do it.

Want to see who has the blood of Sandy Hook’s innocents on his hands, vietnam war protestor? Look in a freaking mirror. You and your ideological brethren are to blame. Without the idiotic laws you passed, Lanza would have been in a mental institution – and all those innocents would be alive today.

Old Trooper

@30: Are you sure about that, Master Chief? Even in areas that don’t have stop and frisk, which is pretty much everywhere but NYC, murder rates are down and in areas where conceal carry, or just carry, laws are in effect, murder rates are down even more. I would attribute that to those areas also having larger firearms purchases over the last couple of years as well. Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the US and they have a murder rate that rivals some 3rd world shitholes. In NYC, you have to watch out for the po-po shooting you more than a bad guy (this is, as I stated in another thread, due to the insane trigger pull force required in NYC).

Old Trooper

@56: Don’t feed the troll, he’s not smart enough to understand common sense and logic.

AtDrum

VWP is surely closed to any truths that disagree with him at all. I mean all we had to do was review the 2007 Colorado YWAM and New Life shootings…

Does everyone forget how a 24 year old murderer opened fire killing two people and wounding two others at the Youth With a Mission training center? The coward then ran away and headed towards the New Life Church. He shot some people outside and then burst inside where he shot another person.

Happily one of the Church Members was a retired police officer and she opened fire on him hitting him multiple times before the coward gave up and shot himself.

One rampage stopped because someone had a gun in a church.
There are only like what, forty examples of rampages ending for every rampage that didn’t. Key factor being that there are armed responsible people ending the evil…

It isn’t a mass murder if you shoot the evil quick enough.

Twist

@45; Bath School Massacre, 1927, Killed 38 children, 6 adults, injuring 58 others using explosives. The murderer also killed his wife and firebombed his own farm.

I answered you because we all know vwp will not. He/she/it will continue to ignore both me and you since this does not fit he/she/it’s narrative.

Twist

Both you and I*

I need coffee.

A Proud Infidel

@60, ok, I should have asked how many mass shootings in the past twelve years did not happen in a “Gun-Free Zone”, that’s what I meant, and yes, the little cockroach turd will ignore that fact and rant after his next glue &spray paint huffing binge!

MustangCryppie

Wait until DiBlasio takes over. You ain’t seen nuttin’ yet!

Ex-PH2

You guys left out that little inicdent in 2011 on the island on the coast of Norway. Crazy man Breivik, with a hair up his ass at the government, sets of bomx in Oslo, so that while the police are distracted by that, he can make his way to his real victims – students trapped on an island with no escape, so that he can mow them down at will.

It’s called shooting fish in a barrel, also shooting sitting ducks. In hunting, it’s frowned upon.

Oh, yeah – he not only set off a car bomb in Oslo, he also had explosives with him on the island.

Hondo

@63: yep. After a couple of years of his recycled-Communisim leftist-Socialist Progressive regime, I’m guessing people will be living the words of those “great sages” Jagger and Richards:

“Go ahead, bite the Big Apple. Don’t mind the maggots.”

Hondo

Ex-PH2: yeah, those strict Norwegian gun laws worked in that case.

(I hope the sarcasm here is obvious.)

A Proud Infidel

Hondo, DITTO with Holland’s strict Gun Control laws, they have had school shootings in recent years, too!

Ex-PH2

Other places where shootings occurred where people were trapped:

Winnetka, IL – Laurie Dann
Dunblane, Scotland – Thomas Hamilton
Columbine HS – Klebold and Harris

Don’t remember the name of the teenaged girl who did this one, but she was in a house across the street from a school and started shooting at the students, because she hated Mondays.

And these are just a few of the ‘fish in a barrel’ episodes. Scotland – strict gun control laws were in place.

I left out Hitler’s Blitzkrieg on purpose.

Hondo

Ex-PH2: Dann also lived in a highly-restrictive area with respect to firearms laws (Evanston, IL – in Cook County) at the time of her rampage. And, like Lanza, she was a certifiable nut-case that should have been in an institution.

Not only did she go on a shooting spree (which wounded several but thankfully only killed one), but she attempted to kill multiple others via poison (botched) and arson (the intended targets escaped).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Dann

Yet another spree of violence, courtesy of our bleeding-heart brethren. Gee, thanks libidiots.

2/17 Air Cav

@41. You have captured my great fear. If The Emperor gets just ONE MORE opportunity to put someone on the Court to replace one of the conservatives, we are D.E.A.D. and since we’re talking about the supremes, I do not want to pass on the chance to call Roberts (spit!) a sniveling piece of shit whose idiotic swing vote preserved OBAMACARE for the country to suffer for years and years to come. No sane person could possibly have concluded the insurance mandate to be a tax. He will have another chance to deal with parts of the law and to make some semblance of amends for his ridiculous decision.

Ex-PH2

OH, I know all about it, Hondo. I worked at a textbook publisher in Evanston, where she had spent an entire day sitting in the reception area, insisting that she was going to work there. I think she actually had three handguns at her home before she went on that rampage.

But her family failed to do anything about her because of the stigma of mental illness and how it would reflect on her if she found a job. This is just about where the ‘touchy-feely-let’s all get along’ stuff started. Let’s all just be nice to each other, even though the person sitting next to you on the bus is talking to air.

Ex-PH2

@2/17AirCav, you missed the good part: Obamacare is doing licensed insurance agents out of their commissions.

They have to use that piece-of-junk website to find out if a client is eligible for a subsidy, but once they use it, they’re bounced out of the loop and can’t get the client back, which means that they lose the commission.

I kid you not.
http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_24681061/insurance-agents-feeling-left-out-obamacare

Hondo

Ex-PH2: IMO it started much earlier, in the 1950s/1960s movement to “deinstitutionalize” mental care patients. By the late 1960s/early 1970s, deinstitutionalization was so prevalent that George Carline had a tasteless (but hilarious) joke about it: “Wouldn’t it be nice if all the people who walk the streets talking to themselves could be paired up so that it would look like they were having a conversation?”

Yes, there were abuses in some mental hospitals. But many folks desperately need to be institutionalized – for their own good, and for the safety of others. In many “Progressive” locales, deinstitutionalization and laws supporting same effectively removed that as a possibility.

Of course, our bleeding-heart “brethren” say that would be “bad” because it wouldn’t be nice and would “violate their rights”. Let me offer a reply to that kind of nonsense: those with bleeding hearts often end up with bloody hands. Just look at Sandy Hook.

UpNorth

@76. You mean, you weren’t assured of Da won’s level-headedness by his appointments of Sotomayor(the Wise Latina) and Kagan(the Wise Softball Player)? I keed, I keed.
I have the same fear, and hope that Scalia and Thomas have engaged private security, outside any government provided security, for themselves.

crewchief guy

@56

hondo, the term is “libtard” i find it roles off the tongue better

OIF '06-'07-'08

@75, I find that “Shit Bag Commies” rolls of the tongue even better, and VWP, stop with the B.S., and what about the millions of little angles that have been aborted in this country since 1973. So please go FUCK OFF.

Sorry John, but VWP post @54 was as hypocritical as they come.

OIF '06-'07-'08

Oh, and all the gun grabbers can FUCK OFF too. Yea, I’m having a bad day today.

Hondo

crewcheif guy: I prefer not to offend the mentally retarded. The term “tard” (short for “retard”) is seen as pejorative by some, while “idiot” is merely seen as an insult. Ergo, I prefer “libidiot”.

If I’m going to insult someone, I want to do it by design vice accident. And I like focused insults so as to minimize collateral damage. (smile)

Robot Wrangler

I’m glad I live in the country. Plenty of places to hide my firearms in a nice waterproof container. Swamp behind the house and plenty of alligators to discourage folks from poking their noses into places they shouldnt belong.

Sparks

@73 I agree Hondo. It started decades ago when they opened and dumped the mental institution patients, essentially, on the streets. The homeless population skyrocketed. The ensuing problems for local communities multiplied. Everyone was less safe. If a person is a danger to themselves or others it should be a no brainer that they be put inside, evaluated and by every means possible, keep them away from firearms. That is when I agree that mental state and past mental problems be included in a background search for weapons licensing. However there are many examples, such as Sandy Hook, where the person simply stole the gun, from his mother in that case, and committed the crime. This is where “gun free zones” fall apart. Teachers and school staff should be trained and allowed to carry. I know as a national group, teachers would be reticent to do such. In which case, we pay enough taxes to have armed security stationed in schools. Most schools where I live have a full time police officer on campus as part of their drug reduction and education programs anyway. Just keep them armed and at the ready. We will never, ever stop a determined killer from killing innocent people if they choose to but we can surely do more to help the problem than just declaring “gun free zones”. Just my opinion.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

@ Air Cav. I would disagree about Roberts. This is how we see it. Obama Care was sold with the “fine” designed in. It was challenged and the WH lawyers then argued it was not a fine but it was a tax. OK now it is a tax, Congress can tax but apparently they can’t fine you for not buying something. So Roberts sides with tax. Yes Ccongress can tax. However, in his decision he wrote that Obama Care was bad policy and if I am not mistaken said if was a bad law and that it was not the USSC job to reverse it. That would be the job of Congress.

So now this is the part when Hondo jumps in and recalibrates what I just penned via BlackBerry.

Ex-PH2

Looks as though the reaction to the Sandy Hook tragedy last year, which generated concern that guns would be unavailable, has diminished somewhat.

http://money.msn.com/top-stocks/post–gun-demand-slows-in-america?gt1=33048

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

EX-PH2. Guns are still flying off the shelf. Check out the artcles about the # of instant background checks that were conducted on Black Friday. That # does not include legal no background purchases and backgrounds conducted later because weapon was purchased on lay-a-way etc ….

No more ammo shortages here.

So in review: Buy more guns and ammo!

David

MCPO – bet you didn’t check .22 – what little is available has skyrocketed in price. That spells “ongoing shortage”

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

I just bought a Rugar .22 Rifle for 309 bucks minus 10 percent mil discount.

My point is: plenty of guns. Buy what is available.

Pinto Nag

@84 I don’t know where you live, David, but where I live I can go buy a brick of .22LR for $22, in three different stores in town, with no waiting.

Pinto Nag

…it’s .223 that’s hard to get here.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

1000 rounds of ammo too! And a scope. Wife is pissed.

Joe Williams

I just brought 250 rounds of .45 FMJ 230 grs. for $109.00 and .22LR is still to find. Bricks or 550 cartons sell as soon as they come in. Joe

Anonymous

People’s Republic of NYC, comrade!