Feel good story follow-up

| November 8, 2013

The other day we talked about a shooting in Reading, Pennsylvania where two men were killed when they robbed a convenience store – a third man has been arrested as their accomplice and charged with second degree murder according to a local ABC station;

Meanwhile, police arrested 21-year-old Alexander Garcia-Bialek, the alleged driver of the get-away car. He’s now facing 2nd degree murder charges.

Berks County District Attorney John Adams says according to Pennsylvania state law, Garcia-Bialek is liable for the deaths of his friends because he is an accomplice to a felony that involve the death of another person.

Further, family members are calling for justice for the two dead criminals, you know the guys who were shot after they pulled their guns out first when they were confronted by a good guy. WFMZ link;

“It’s not fair,” said Virginia Medina, mother of 24-year-old William Medina, who police said robbed Krick’s Korner store alongside 18-year-old Robert De Carr on Monday.

The two men were shot and killed by a private citizen while leaving the store, and family members want to see charges pressed.

“[William] had no right to lose his life over something that man could have called the police for,” said Medina. “He took the law into his own hands and walked away scot-free.”

“How about if people just start running around here, policing the city on their own? How much worse is it going to get?” said Peter Ratel, Medina’s cousin.

The family members said they are hurt by comments suggesting the alleged robbers were “thugs.”

According to Medina, William was “no big hard criminal” and was rather a family-man who loved his young daughter.

Robert De Carr was described similarly by his sister, Taylor De Carr.

“My brother was a good kid,” she told 69 News.

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Bubblehead Ray

Play stupid games… Win stupid prizes.

A Proud Infidel

I’ll bet a

A Proud Infidel

STUPID *BLEEP!* SMARTPHONE!!

I’ll bet a bottle of good Bourbon and a twelve pack of good beer that those enablers are the type that would love to see criminal-coddling Chicago-style Gun Control Laws inflicted on their locality, keeping their goblin kin safe while they rob who they please!

B Woodman

It would be interesting to know how many times these now-dead perps had gotten away with the same thing. But these relatives would have you think this was their fiirst time EVEH!
Sorry, people. There’s a reason we sub-title these “Turning Their Lives Around”. The Dead Perps were already turned — to the Dark Side. And they weren’t coming back on their own. Someone else had to turn them back again. Even if it was at gun point.
So suck it up, Relatives of The Dead Perps. The gravy train of stolen goods has left the station without you.

NHSparky

“How about if people just start running around here, policing the city on their own? How much worse is it going to get?” said Peter Ratel, Medina’s cousin.

Worse for who, cuz? The law-abiding citizens or your thug relatives? I’ll vote for making it worse on your criminal family.

Ex-PH2

Is there a ‘no profit from a crime’ statute in Pennsylvania?

Wait, that was about a criminal making a profit.

The consistent denial of people who are related to these criminals is just amazing. On the other hand, if the perps don’t tell their peeps where the money comes from, then they’re just ‘good boys’, right?

So, if they make their cash from going into say, a Sports Authority store and shoplifting mass quantities of goods on the rack before the clerks can stop them – and it’s on surveillance video – then it doesn’t matter, because they’re bringing home some cash?

Just want to be sure I understand this mentality.

rb325th

How about your thug brother/son shouldn’t have been running around breaking the law, which forced a law abiding citizen to take the Law rightfully into his own hands… Stupid fucking people. The attitude from them is unreal, their child has the right to break the law is what I am getting from these leeches on soceity.

Geetwillickers

This crap pisses me off. The glorification of victim status is very near the core of what is wrong with our society today. Here is how I see it: Law abiding citizen doing his civic duty is now the villain fearing for his life, while two drug-addicted criminals have their very own stuffed animal and candlelit shrine.

Would the mother rather we all cower in fear before those who break the law? Would the cousin really rather see a society which turns a blind eye to crime? This citizen DID dial 911 first… but everyone knows that the cops showing up would do nothing more than take a report, give the video footage to the local crime stoppers, and go about their business. In fact, I believe the criminals were depending on just that, along with the blind eye his cousin seems to be advocating.

To answer the cousin’s question: Yes. I believe the world would be a better place if criminals were a bit more fearful and law-abiding citizens were a bit less. Perhaps your late cousin would have reconsidered his fund-raising scheme had the possibility of death been a bit more realistic. Maybe your cousin’s death can instead teach the next generation to stay away from drugs, and not to put themselves in a position to be gunned down.

Don’t punish the guy who has followed the rules all his life.

*puts soap box away*

That is all.

Old Trooper

They were both good boys. They were just turning their lives around. They weren’t big hard criminals (I wonder why the relative doesn’t think armed robbery isn’t a “big hard crime”?) who had guns or anything.

Relatives ALWAYS say that the thug in question was a “good person” and “family man caring for his kids”. Not to be stereotypical, but most times, they have nothing to do with their offspring. If they were such family oriented, then they wouldn’t pull a gun on someone elses dad.

MGySgtRet.

Look, one of the perp’s mothers said he was just trying to get money for child support. He was simply trying to support his illegitimate child. Through criminal activity. Last time I checked, being a criminal had a dangerous side to it. Guess he was just expecting the part where you get to relieve hard working citizens of their possessions. Dipshit.

And the idiot cousin said he just wanted justice. Seems to me they got justice. It was hard justice. It was unforgiving justice, but it was justice all the same.

So to recap, according to the mother of one dead perp, he was a good boy, who was a drug addict, who fathered an illegitimate child and who made his living committing crimes. Got it. The other one, according to his sister, hung out with the wrong people. He also committed felony robbery. Guess how much sleep I will lose over their demises?? The correct answer is none!!

Hondo

So, one of the perps’ cousins wants to see “justice”?

I thought that happened to two of the 3 when they assumed room temperature. IMO that’s appropriate justice for someone attempting armed robbery. So for those two, justice has already been served.

But I guess the cousin could have been talking about the upcoming felony murder trial of the getaway car driver and hoping he got serious time for his part in the crime. Yeah, maybe that’s it – ya think?

Naw, me either. (smile)

2/17 Air Cav

“[William] had no right to lose his life….” Sure he did. Don’t minimize William’s accomplishment. He earned that right. It wasn’t served up for him on a silver platter! He had to work for it by planning and committing a serious felony. Way to go William. You finally did something that you can call your own. You got killed.

NHSparky

My uncle’s girlfriend is a lawyer who works for a large US city. While she’s as liberal as all get-out (case in point–she still considers Bush’s 2000 election as illegitimate) she did have steel meet target when she said that justice is a PROCESS, not a RESULT.

Someone needs to explain that to “cuz” because justice IS in fact being served. Just because he doesn’t get what he wants (whatever it may be) doesn’t mean it wasn’t done. And no, cuz, suing or wanting someone put in jail isn’t going to serve the greater good in this case or any like it.

TankBoy

@12. Awesome response. I salute you!

BK

This is right up the road, and many locals in Berks County are now trying to turn these definitive thugs into the next “Trayvon.” Unfortunately, there’s no ambiguity. Looking up the fools in PA’s UJS portal, searching by name, shows long rap sheets for Berks County in the court of common pleas and magisterial district courts.

Given their near proximity, I would just love to pepper their neighborhood, stapling fliers gloating at their deaths just to piss them off for turning a wonderful region in Pennsylvania into a near third world with their entitlement mentality. Give me a box of Mortons, I’d very much like to pour salt in their wounds.

NR Pax

As I have said elsewhere, I am to the point where if I’m walking down the street and am being approached by kids who are straight-A students that don’t cause any problems and are good kids, I’m going to shoot them first.

Ex-PH2

I believe it’s the loss of OPM acquired by AMAT (any means at all) that is at the root of the complaining by Medina and DeCarr. No mo’ free money comin’ in.

Here’s a heartening story: according to recent discoveries by teams of citizen data analysts, NASA has now expanded the guesstimate for Earth-type planets, orbiting stars like our sun in the Goldilocks zone, to 8.8 billion, in our galaxy. This does not include those orbiting red dwarfs in the Goldilocks zone. (Not ‘dwarves’. Dwarves are subterranean metalsmiths.)

That means that, when someone actually develops the warp bubble drive, which is now being research by NASA scientists on a mini scale, we’ll have some place to ship these people and their families to. We’ll call it — oh, how about Botany Bay? I kind of like that name.

A Proud Infidel

I expect that at any minute we’ll start hearing about how those goblins were “victims of society” that were “unjustly oppressed while trying to better themselves”!

Anyone that believes that line of *BLEEP!* needs to hang alongside the perps!

2/17 Air Cav

@13. A good many, if not most, people don’t understand that fairness goes to process, not results, in law. I liken it to a parent facing two kids who want the last piece of cake. Mom says, “Okay, Sally, here’s a knife. Make that one piece two.” Sally does so, cutting the cake unequally. She then reaches for the larger of the two pieces. Mom says, “Stop! You cut the cake. Maggie gets to pick the piece she wants.” That’s a fair process, even though Sally doesn’t like the result.

Flagwaver

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.

The longer the rap sheet, the more the family will scream that the now-tomb-temperature maggot was a good boy.

Guess what, people, good boys don’t hold up liquor stores at gun point!

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Too bad the families are able to reproduce at this time, there is no “good” boy who uses a firearm to commit a felony…only sh1tbags act that way…these are entire families of useless sh1tbags who contribute nothing to our society but misery. It’s about time we start addressing these families in the same way we treat cancer, excise it from the body before it destroys everything and kills the host…

streetsweeper

Dunno what everybody is getting so worked up over…Baby mama’s gonna be gettin that monthly welfare check plus they EBT card gonna be full to the max, be going to the nail parlor git them acrylic toes nails all dun up and find a new baby daddy. Vicious cycle…

PintoNag

A couple of predators got taken down when they went hunting in the flock one too many times. Happens with bears, wolves, lions, and thugs. No problem here that I can see.

Mamas, don’t raise your sons to be thugs, and law-abiding citizens won’t shoot them dead.

2/17 Air Cav

Baby momma never asks the unemployed, drop outs in her house where they get their cash. They know but don’t wanna know, if you know what I mean. They do tend to give baby momma some, after all. Know where the drug dealers stash their shit? Baby momma’s house. Know where they keep their guns and ammo? Baby momma’s house, in the closet in one of the dozens of boxed Jordans that go for $150 and up a pop.

Anonymous

They were merely assisting the messiah with wealth redistribution.

How can you not be for hope and change?

MGySgtRet.

Well, they certainly got some hope and change. Changed from living thugs into dead ones.

rfisher

I wonder if the perps’ families would feel different if they were the ones being robbed at gunpoint?

David

28 – was wondering the same thing. They’d now be talking about how the po-po don’t care, the slow response times, the injustice of it, etc….

Detn8r

“According to Medina, William was “no big hard criminal” and was rather a family-man who loved his young daughter.

Robert De Carr was described similarly by his sister, Taylor De Carr.

“My brother was a good kid,” she told 69 News.”

Good and Dead thugs!

Common Sense

Darn! I thought when I saw ‘followup’ that the family members were arrested for harassing the honorable citizen and his family. Maybe soon.

MrBill

It strikes me as a bit odd that the accomplice gets charged with murder of his two co-perps, when from the perspective of the actual shooter, the co-perps were justifiably killed.

Yeah, I get that it’s just the law bending over backwards to nail the accomplice, one way or another. But, if the deaths of the co-perps were justified – and there’s no loss to society – it seems to me to be sufficient to charge the survivor as an accomplice to armed robbery. It’d be different if an innocent person was killed, but it seems to me to be a waste of resources to try to vindicate the deaths of the co-perps.

A Proud Infidel

Are the goblins’ kin sad to see them dead, or are they upset about one less welfare check coming every month?