Robert Kach Kekorian; the phony SEAL Police Chief
We’ve been telling you about Waukegan, IL police chief, Robert Kach Kekorian. who thought that being a SEAL would be an enhancement for his job application, until he was busted by our buddy, Don Shipley. Hondo went ahead and submitted a FOIA for his records and it seems that we might owe him an apology;
Oh, wait maybe not, unless you can be in the Navy for six entire months and still wind up being a SEAL.
Category: Phony soldiers
Hell of an example for kids.. what the hell do these freaking shitnuggets think??? Good job in the take down…anyone know if he has been shitcanned?
Not only a non-SEAL, but a Boot Camp/AIT throwaway. Wotta winner!!
He wasn’t a SEAL, but he handled paperwork for SEALs at Coronado, which is kinda the same thing. I mean, they didn’t become SEALs until he issued the paperwork at the Personnel Support Detachment that says they’re SEALs, so. . .
Too bad him AND the frecking Mayor should be run outta town on a rail.
@3, AP, that, or he saw a real life SEAL, and he’ll tell you it’s JUST like being one!
So much for integrity and honesty being the cornerstones being a cop.
So, given that he was discharged from Coronado, what are the chances that he was in training for the SEALs (or maybe their boat units) when he was discharged. Doesn’t change that he lied-just curious.
Waukegan must be thrilled to know their chief is a liar, when the chief is a liar and a fraud it places a dark shadow over everyone in the department…I suspect some defense attorneys might have some fun with this……the chief could be an example of corruption and deceit throughout the department, after all if the head of an organization is a fake, it does create some questions about the organization itself.
Unless Waukegan enjoys fakers in which case they have exactly who they need as chief.
If it’s in the paper, Waukegan knows about it.
@8VOV,
Don’t forgot the Mayor who is Kekorian’s butt buddy. He’s a piece of crap TOO! Yeah I’m talking about YOU Wayne Motley you shithead with a child molester style mustache.
http://newssun.suntimes.com/news/19935438-418/wayne-motley-sworn-in-as-new-waukegan-mayor.html
Well it is known as the mini Chicago. In most states civil service law if you falsify facts on your police application it is a cause for termination.
@7–I did a school in Coronado once. Does that make me a SEAL too? Again, if he was in BUD/S and medically discharged due to injury, I get that, but it still doesn’t make him a SEAL. And given that he was there 3-4 months TOPS including the time it took to process his discharge, medical seems unlikely as well.
Wait- this goes further. Did he, on his application, have ANY mention that he completed service? That he got ‘vet points’ for service time?
As I read that document, he didn’t even complete initial entry training. Of any kind.
So does his application indicate some veteran mention, that he did service time?
Hell with claiming to be a SEAL. I’d like to know if he claimed to be a VET….
Ironic. Waukegan is the home of Naval Station Great Lakes Recruit Training Command, where I went to boot camp. Place was pretty much a shit-hole back then- I see little has changed.
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/il/waukegan/crime/
NHSparky-“…if he was in BUD/S and medically discharged due to injury, I get that…”
That’s essentially what I was asking-I didn’t know what schools the Navy had there other than BUDS and also if it would have been possible to go straight from boot camp into the SEAL training pipeline.
@13-he (barely) cracked 180 days so he didn’t get ADSEP or entry level separation. As long as the discharge was honorable yeah he can claim vet status.
In most states you have to be on active duty other than training during certain time periods to get the veteran’s preference points on an civil service application.
@8. Yeah, if I were a defense attorney, I’d subpoena the chief to testify about the arresting officers, investigators and CSI’s, his opinion of them, and then throw this at him.
Loser.
@12 – Congratulations!
You need to change your moniker to BUD/S-parky, then.
@15–unlikely. Back then there were a number of SEAL Source Ratings that one ha to be in order to become a SEAL. IIRC a lot had already done A school before getting to BUD/S. Some did not but even the straight outta boot types would have done the four week AT at their respective RTC. So 3 months of boot, a month of AT training, at least 15-30 days of leave (holiday and PCS) thrown in…basically this guy barely figured out where the BEQ and chow hall were before he was shown the door.
Nice follow up to the origional story….just relaxing with a coffee after running my PFT….
What a turd muffin.
It’s not going away, not at all.
AW1Ed, when were you at GLakes? I was there in 1972. It’s expanded a lot since then, but yeah, Lake Bluff and North Chicago are still a mess, just not as bad a mess as they were then.
He managed to make E-3 and get kicked out in barely six months. That couldn’t have been easy… it’s almost like being a SEAL.
@22.
PFT’s…what a drag.
@25….no kidding. Give me the CFT all day long but I dread that damn three miles…. my knees scream at me for a week afterwards.
I know, I know, it’s Illinois and all that, but I wonder if anyone’s passed this story along to the State Attorney general’s office? Regardless of party affiliation, they USUALLY frown at this sort of a thing, especially by a police officer who apparently lied on his application.
Looks to me like he had E-3 out of boot camp, Maybe he has JROTC. OR he was in and advanced tech field such as OS, IC,ET at that time those rates would have given E-2 out of boot with E-4 at the completion of a school.
NTC SD had many of those schools at that time. I do know of one guy. only one that went through his schools with the intent of becoming a SEAL. Even then he had close to two years in on a six year enlistment before he tried out. this would have been 86-87 time frame. Thats when I was stationed at NTC.
At least this douche saw a SEAL, that one hell of allot more than most of the other posers see.
“Hondo went ahead and submitted a FOIA for his records and it seems that we might owe him an apology; …Oh, wait maybe not, unless you can be in the Navy for six entire months and still wind up being a SEAL.” ~JL
Coffee meet Computer-Screen, Computer-Screen meet Coffee.
Laughed so hard coffee came out my nose.
Note to self: Do not sip coffee while reading this stuff.
Maybe he took the BUD/S correspondence course.
#30 2/17,
Yeah, that’s likely.
It’s how I did flight school.
At least, that’s what one of my unit instructor pilots said.
so if he pretends to be a SEAL, can I pretend to be a cop?
I wanna pretend am the president too!!! be baccon and liar- hard choice Viking
In my experience, and this is not 100%, but folks I ran into or worked with in police work who didn’t make it in the military, were usually not very good cops…I mean they were usually, cowards, slugs at doing work etc…
Jonn , what type of discharge was he given? A copy of his app would be very interesting. To me it looks like he was booted out of A school. Do you not have to a certain amount of time in and rate back then to apply for BUDS? Joe
CWO5USMC@22, did you run a PFT, or “run a PFT”? And why did you wait until the last working day of the period to run your PFT? Now, where do I put that “Sweet & Lowe”?
Semper Loopback,
Hack
AW1Tim, re: Illinois AG Lisa Madigan is kind of busy trying to decide whether or not she should turn down the run for Governor against Bill Brady, the GOP candidate. I doubt she’s got Kerkorian on her agenda. That will come later, since he hasn’t killed anyone yet.
I’m not being nasty about Lisa. She’s conscientious and works hard, but her father is Dan Madigan, who has had a chokehold on the state legislature for decades and wants to see his little girl run the show.
I just wonder if he’s the cop who pulled me over one morning at the Washington Avenue underpass on Rt. 41, when I was on my way to work and I was doing 46 in a 45MPH zone. I made him wait 10 minutes while I fumbled around in the glove box ‘trying’ to find my insurance card and finally pulled out all the policies I keep there for just such occasions. It was bitter cold and I kept the car window closed.
Like NHSparky said.
I did the Amphib Orientation course at NAB Coronado, when I was in the Marine Corps. Can I be a SEAL too?
0643 hrs.
We seem to still be here.
Joe: I did the FOIA request on the lying tool, so I’ll answer your question.
What Jonn posted is one of two pages received in NPRC’s reply. The other was the cover letter. We don’t know what type of discharge he received. Presumably it was honorable or general (under honorable conditions), as he was later able to secure government employment.
One of the things that NPRC does not release in response to a FOIA request is the type of discharge. My guess is that is to “protect” those who received a less than honorable discharge from “adverse social consequences”. (Whether or not that information should be publicly available or if such individuals deserve adverse social consequences due to receiving a general/under other than honorable [virtually always given in lieu of trial by court-martial], BCD, or DD is a different discussion entirely.)
As a consequence, NPRC generally does not send a DD214 as part of their reply to a FOIA inquiry. On those rare occasions that they do send a DD214, they send one with PII, type of discharge, narrative reason, and reentry code redacted.
The full list of information that NPRC will release without consent of the veteran (or the veteran’s next of kin, if the veteran is deceased) can be found at
http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel/foia-info.html
Yeah, I can hear the ACLU going totally batshit crazy if the terms of discharge were released. Posers would have to really up their game. Joe PS even the re-enlistment codes would help outing these fools.
Hondo, I sent a link to an article by Dan Moran in this morning’s newspaper in which Kekorian admits that he was nevre a SEAL. He still insists, however, that he applied for BUDs, but he has no specialty rating in that FOIA form above.
Maybe he just slept at the Holiday Inn.
Also, note: there is another link to an article in which Motley (da mayor) denies rumors of a new police chief.
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@23
Winter of 1977. Brrrrr…..
Twice other posters have told of this chief’s tall tales of being a SEAL. I think this takes him past just a mistake on my app.? Continued tall tales(lies) equals POSer in my book. Joe
I stand corrected. You can enlist to become a SEAL.
As a civilian you can request to join the SEALs prior to enlisting through the SEAL Challenge Contract (Seaman to SEAL program). The SEAL Challenge Contract guarantees you the opportunity to become a SEAL candidate and entitles you to certain bonuses and benefits when you enlist.
http://www.military.com/special-operations/requirements-for-navy-seals.html
HackStone, I think that’s something more recent. Not sure about dates, but I believe the applicants used to need a source rate or code from “A” schools.
I remember the dark days in the Marine Corps when they had “contract Corporals”. I had a guy working for me who was a contract Corporal, and his first words were “I’m going to be a Corporal in four months.” To which I replied “Good for you, but for now you are a Lance Corporal.”
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