Let Us Mourn The Millions America Slaughtered
So once again antiwar blogs are talking this weekend to reminder you two important things. The first that you are all baby killers and war criminals because of of the millions of people that died in all the wars we took part in that ether were not American and/or not in our Armed Forces.
This veteran is waiting for the year in which the Veterans For Peace, in its Memorial Day Press Release, states that Veterans mourn first, the lives America took in poor countries, both the civilian men, women and children and the patriots that fought our illegal and criminal invasions since 1945. Only then should come bitterly mourning GIs who were duped by our elected officials and the CIA and Pentagon fed, corporate-controlled war-promoting media cartel fooling them with lies, misinformation, disinformation and psyop techniques that deceived them into proudly following homicidal criminal orders.
Again, this veteran is hoping that the Veterans For Peace Memorial Day Statement Press Release will say that VFP, or at least many if not all VFP, mourn the patriots of US invaded countries that fell fighting against overwhelming odds, and their civilian countrymen and children who also fell in harms way of those US invading forces.
Second that those who died should be only considered after the fact because they are war criminals.
To be polite, we mourn them first before mourning our own soldiers who were killed in the line of duty following our government’s criminal orders. Otherwise how can anyone believe VFP condemns the taking of all these millions of lives of poor people overseas in illegal criminal military action; an illegal use of military that Representative from Texas, Congressman and Republican candidate for president, denounced (but did not call for prosecution).
Third is that you should not be celebrating with parades, flags and anything that puts the service of those who have gone before us in any positive light because it was hijacked.
This Memorial Day 2013, Veterans For Peace is asking their fellow Americans to morn quietly at home. We ask that all sincerely patriotic citizens not take part in military parades and festive open-air observances under flags flying military colors. It anyone asks you why, say you don’t like selective mourning, that is, mourning our dead but not those our soldiers killed.
Memorial Day has been hijacked, just as our nation has been hijacked, by the investment banks of the Military-Industrial-Complex. Its corporate owned media promotes and hails an indiscriminate celebration of all US wars as heroic.
Oh and the comments are just as bad.
from what i know, soldiers are generally clueless about exactly why they are being deployed to all the countries they are being sent to. no matter how hard things are, its never a justification to go halfway around the world to kill innocent people or to pilot drones to do the same-kill innocent people with “pinpoint accuracy”
As a former president of VFP (Veterans For Peace) I can tell you that many of our members skip the Memorial Day celebrations altogether because those events are, primarily and sadly, a glorification of the military and the killing machines of war. Members who do participate carry our banner, a dove on a military helmet with our name writ large, and a variety of signs against war and the suffering — all suffering, not just that of U.S. veterans — it leaves in its wake. They typically receive a very enthusiastic response from people watching the parade.
So the next time that the Veterans for Peace says that support the troops just remember that they do, but it is not our troops.
Category: Antiwar crowd
took flowers to my Dad’s grave at Ft Rosecrans Nat’l Cem. Afterwards I saluted VFP at the urinal of the restaurant we went to for brunch
Lefties are counter-tribalists, the other is always good and pure and justified in whatever actions they might take (you’ll notice they don’t even exempt Korea from the stain of our “illegality”, which makes them objectively pro-Stalinist, but never mind).
None of this would bother me except that they have taken control of the institutions of higher learning and fill impressionable young mushy minds with their nonsense. Unless and until we can find a way to counter this we will continue to lose the culture war and suffer this nonsense throughout our society.
So I suppose the fact the DPRK was invaded the ROK is not really important. Or the fact that the NVA and VC routinely made My Lai look like a picnic (don’t even get me started on the shit they did to the Montagnards. Hey how about ending Communism which probably killed about a billion people (or close too it)
People like this make me want to break shit and kill people
Ethics are a bitch.
Especially out there on the north 40.
Love ya Spork…
I can’t believe this was written by a human being. I think it was literally a 5 foot something sandy vagina typing at the computer.
Are Libtards just that stupid to think after 1945 the United States participated in more “illegal” and foreign invasions than before? If so they need to pick up a book because if anything we’ve only ramped down our foreign imperialist invasions.
Fuck these clowns. I’m going to put on my ruck tomorrow and take a little 12 mile stroll along the trails in my area with my dog and one of my soldier buddies. Remember those that have died making others free and rededicate myself to the task at hand. These VFP guys can all eat a dick. And if I run into any of those clowns, may God have mercy on them for I will have none.
How, Wha, Huh!?!? I mean I knew and then stupid but Huh?
I need a moment!
What Memorial Day “celebrations” exactly have they avoided? The only Memorial Day commemorations about which I have personal knowledge were very solemn or religious in nature. They were anything but celebratory. Quite the opposite – they were more funereal.
The idiots just do not want to look at the reality that it is their ideology which directly caused the deaths of many millions of humans around the globe in the 20th century.
Tomorrow as I am paying my respect to those who have gone before me. I’ll spend zero seconds thinking about the asshats from vfp.
Spent the morning Saturday, placing American flags at every Veteran grave in our city. Our Legion, Post 66 in San Luis Obispo California, has done this since 1923. I saluted every gravestone and marker, and cried the entire day.
I’ll do it again, year after year, until someone places an American flag on my grave.
Phuck ’em and feed ’em fish. They can kiss my straight-leg ass. I volunteered and I’d do it again.
When it comes down it…it is me or them. I’m here…fuck them.
I would be thrilled in VFP followed that advice and stayed the hell home tomorrow. It would make a solemn day the more respectful. Alas, they’ll be out in force, like jock itch on an unwashed pair of skivvies. They crave the attention, the spotlight, the facetime. They’ll be mugging the cameras and doing everything they can to phuck up the day in order to get THEIR message across because, you know, it’s all about THEM and THEIR needs, vice remembering better men and women then they can even imagine.
What a bunch of douchebags.
I went into Somalia because all the food and medical aid was being stolen by the bad guys and enabling them to even further oppress the starving kids.
These “anti-war” morons are simply looking to justify their cowardice. I look forward to the day the walls come down and we can stand them up in front of firing squads. Fucking marxist scum.
I admit, I am a Veteran that wishes there was no need for war.
HOWEVER… I will gladly bring ass-whoopin to any shore, to any person of any financial stature, race, creed, color or religion should they threaten my country, it’s citizens, it’s sovereignty or the Constitution of the United States…
Foreign or Domestic.
Well, were the patriots from the American Revolution baby killers? I don’t think so.
Just read something on two vets (65 yr. old combat Vietnam vet & Gulf War I vet) are walking across America carrying the American flag in “Support of the U.S. Constitution”.
http://www.WalkDaddyWalk.us
Now that is Cool! An old man still fighting for our freedoms. They are walking from San Diego to D.C. At least someone in ‘getting in the streets’ & taking a stand.
Un-fucking-believable. Where do these shitbags come from? Were they not given enough love as small children? Did the many blanket parties they must have received cause some form of extreme brain damage?
I’m with #3 above. Reading this crap makes me want to bust up some stuff.
Lets not allow a bunch of dumb communists to ruin our remembrance of those lost in the line of duty…
Steve S, the sad part is that many of these left-wing nuts were probably given too much and not taught what it means to have a sense of respect, duty and honor.
It’s always interesting to me to watch 4ssclowns try and ascribe some form of moral superiority on our enemies. As if those who after 1945 somehow were the modern “freedom” fighters of their nations. Would that be the Communists of North Korea? Can’t see how that nation of total night darkness is anything but a classic example of evil run amok…perhaps the liberating elements of the NVA? Maybe VFP idiots should take a trip and talk to what’s left of the intelligentsia of the south after they were re-educated…. These morons can’t possibly believe the tribal feuding of the various iterations of muslim mania are somehow as pure as the driven snow? While there is no wrong in being desirous of a peaceful world and diplomatic outcomes resolving confrontation through negotiation, it’s extremely disingenuos if not downright dishonest to play revisionist historical histrionics to make a sorry ass political point. VFP hates their nation now, and hates their service? That’s their right, but don’t pretend that somehow there are innocents being killed in global colonial land grab by the United States. I wish we would indeed take these lands, the people in them contribute nothing to the world except misery and death. Their demise brings about a solution that is both terrible and beneficial at the same time. Cancer is never cured with kind words and thoughtful meditation. It’s irradiated, or chemically poisoned, to death and often destroys some of the good while it’s being eliminated. The end result is survival. There are two roads to survival for our species now as well. The first one leads to the west being consumed by a cancerous hatred that has lasted over a thousand years, and the light of freedom of thought, of freedom of pursuit of scientific knowledge, and protection of the individual from his duly elected leaders extinguished perhaps forever…the other road is a commitment to end radical islam forever, through the use of superior firepower and a commitment to eliminate all of those who would reproduce that radical islam. Killing them all is not cruel, it’s a necessity that… Read more »
To the VFP, or WTF ever, here is some advice:
Try a cup of warm milk and a small Vidalia onion or Granny Smith apple. I guarantee you a satisfied colon in short order.
To heck with that, I am taking my kids to the city’s Memorial Day ceremony and then to the cemetery. They are too young to get the deep meaning but we go to remember the people whose moms and dads can’t see them. It’s enough. I honestly don’t get how anyone can have a beef with Memorial Day.
Andy Kravetz, reporter
Peoria (Ill.) Journal Star
I’m not sure Veritas. Part of me wants to watch the libtards live a few generations under Sharia Law before we save their worthless asses.
Fen,
I have a better idea, let them live a few generations under Sharia law and then NOT save their worthless asses. Point and laugh, but not expend any blood, sweat, or tears on those shitbags.
Well, I want to live in peace and quiet, too. I’m happy sitting on my front steps in the summer with a glass of ice tea, watching the sun go down.
But I can do that because other people before me made sure the crazy bastards that want everything their way didn’t get to ruin the world for the rest of us who didn’t like THEIR way.
There is no end to this kind of struggle. There never will be.
With you on that Ex PH-2. Maynbe its not the place for a civvie to comment but here goes. This morning I spent a couple of hours with the fading remnants of the WWII vets at the USS Silversides here in town. I read chickenshit like this and don’t know whether to laugh, cry, scream or just say to hell with it. These boobs don’t understand that the REAL sacrifice wasn’t Little Billy Ayers, the Black Panthers, Code Pinko, the Occutards, or the rest and all their alleged “suffering” at the “evil” CIA/FBI/DOD/Military-Industrial Complex, (fill in your favorite socialist conspiracy theory here). They were made by men and women in uniform that had to go out in heat, humidity, cold, damp, parching dryness and other godforsaken weather conditions and environments to defend the Republic and its calling. Were we always right? I’d say no, but I do earnestly believe our hearts were in the right place at the time and we acted against a much more violent and depraved form of evil. Think old Che was a Peacemaker? Guess again? Ditto with Mao, Stalin, Ho, The Kims (Sung,Il, and Un) Castro, the Mullahs and Ayatollahs or any of the two bit, tinhorn dictators out there in the world. None of them were interested in “peace” or “freedom” or milkshakes, warm puppies or nice tasty candy. They were rat bastards out for personal gain. Did we back our share? Hell yeah, and it was wrong. If we claim to support freedom and democracy maybe we need to be willing to accept the consequences of that decision and work with the results. Also if folks want to hire a dictator, cool with me. That is until said dictator starts to fuck with us, then its HAMMER TIME! After its over we can work again on learning to live with each other. BTW to the GEENIUSEZ at VFP, we haven’t done anything like the world domination tour of the Alexandrian Greeks, Romans, Babylonians Assyrians, Mongols, Muslims, Chinese, Japanese Germans, French, British, or Russians. Also, we been a lot nicer overall about our takeovers… Read more »
How many died in the death camps of WWII because the pacifists delayed our assistance of our allies in Europe? 10 million? 20 million??
How many died in Cambodia when the same idiots caused us to turn our backs on our allies in SE Asia? 3 million? Or more??
If you add up the millions who died horrible deaths around the world during the 20th century because the US failed to come to the aid of her allies, these idiots have much to explain. But they won’t, of course.
Folks say correlation is not causation, but:
1. American public school education wiped out competencies in math, science, civics, and history
2. “Millions” of people died in Iraq, but the math used to determine the many numbers don’t hold up under scrutiny. Prognazi answer: STFU H8rz!
3. Our bloody war for oil contributed to Anthropogenic Global Warming, but the science categorically disproved every claim of AGW. Prognazi answer: criminalize scientific inquiry and dissent.
4. We have 3 branches of government. To Prognazis, they are the Bush-Cheney Nexis, The Jews, and Evil Corporations that don’t have Democrat CEO. To the so-called ‘low-information’ voters, those branches are “Oprah Likes,” “Alec Baldwin Said,” and “Why Would Dan Rather Lie?”
5. Thanks to the brilliant scholarship of Howard Zinn, Ward Churchill, and Barack Obama, our children learn American history is rife with the enslavement of poor whites, all blacks, the genocide of native Americans, and none of us built a damned thing.
Prognazis: a ‘reality-based’ community living a life wholly scripted by others.
I have as much respect for VFP and its membership as I do for the posers busted here at TAH!
I love poetry. Hiram Mann’s poem has stuck with me since the day I read it.
No man survives when freedom fails.
The best men rot in filthy jails,
And those who cried “Appease, appease”
Were hung by those they sought to please.
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. –Tacitus (AD 56-AD117)
I hope I see a VFP flag when I go to the cemetery today. I have never been charged or convicted of any crime. Just a clean Joe citizen. So I figure the worst I could get is community service when I wrestle the flag from the asshole and stomp on it. Do what they will, we live in a free country. I served and so did everyone here for their freedom to protest. They forget that when they speak of the poor, little folks we overwhelmed with our vicious military power, that we are free because America came to the aid of the world when needed. Think of the world run by Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh and others, like the ass wipe president of Iran. I don’t get the whole VFP movement. I understand if they are just bitter for their service or experiences. But to liken the American military to Nazi thugs and such as that is lower than whale shit. In my service in Vietnam, I never, never enjoyed seeing anyone die. But when it was my life or the life of the grunt beside me; in that case, there was no question. Just we come first, they come last. And they were not poor, disenfranchised villagers. They were trained soldiers. I guess I wrote a lot to just say F@CK THE VFP and their agenda!
One more thing…I would bet a paycheck that there are more POS posers in the VFP movement than any other group.
@OWB, dont forget that the UN denied there was a genocide for 20 years after pol pot was outed. who was it that went into cambodia and removed him anyway? do yall remember? oh right, it was those wonderful peace loving communists who never hurt a fly. they went in with guns and superior numbers and kicked his ass out. so im confused, does that make them the bad guys for going into someone else’s country and “starting a war”? we are the bad guys for supporting the south vietnameese and south koreans, are the communist chineese bad guys for supporting their allies, the north koreans and vietnameese? did the communists, in their opinion, murder our soldiers and the civilians of the southern countries? or are they less evil because it was us they were fighting, even though they showed up to assist the invasion into the southern countries before we ever thought of going there.
What I love about these steaming bags of phallus is they seem to assume that real actual veterans want to go fight more wars and kill more people. Any idiot that’s actually been to war knows its horrible. They know that war should always be the last resort.
But any real veteran will tell you there are things worth fighting for. Things worth dying for. Words are empty and meaningless in the face of genocide, and the atrocities our enemies so regularly commit Only action can bring about peace, and justice.
Perhaps the biggest failing of these idiots is their inability to see what is obvious to all of us – in the real world, we are all against war, in much the same way that we are against violence generally. We do not seek either out, but we will defend ourselves and our neighbors or allies against violence that others start.
Part of it may be that they do not understand math. If a shooter enters an area occupied by any number of regular folks and makes it clear that someone is going to die that day, most of us understand that taking out the shooter is preferable to allowing the shooter to determine the total number of dead greater than one.
Smart, they are not.
“most of us understand that taking out the shooter is preferable to allowing the shooter to determine the total number of dead greater than one.”
The libtards understand that too, they are just too selfish to risk their lives for another. Thats why they adopt all these “moral” causes – as penance to offset their self-image of a doochebag.
Well, there is that, too, Fen. 😉