Pothead rally turns to violence

| April 21, 2013

Ex-PH2 sends us a link to an NBC article which tells the story of a crowd in Denver assembled to protest federal laws by thousands smoking pot in the streets which turned violent yesterday;

Three people were shot and wounded at a pro-marijuana rally on Saturday, disrupting the first celebration of a symbolic drug culture holiday since Colorado voters legalized the recreational use of pot.

A man and a woman were each shot in the leg and a youth was grazed by a bullet, but the wounds were not life-threatening, Denver police said on Twitter. Officers were looking for two suspects in the shootings, which occurred as the rally was winding down.

“I heard five or six gunshots in quick succession,” said Cole Wagenknecht, 27, who attended the rally at a downtown park near the State Capitol. “That’s why I knew it wasn’t fireworks. Then everybody started to scatter and ran toward one end of the park.”

But, yeah, I’m thinking it’s the gun’s fault, not that it could be about illegal drug use, at a rally that has as it’s theme, protesting a law that everyone at the rally is breaking because marijuana is completely harmless, ya know? Guns, on the other hand are inherently evil. So, yeah, it couldn’t be the drug culture, has to be the gun.

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Joe

USMCE8Ret, You’ve watched “Reefer Madness” too many times. I don’t know what my post tells you about me, but from your post (and the RET part) I can see you’re living in the past. Hey, could three presidents be wrong?

PintoNag

Marijuana is not only genetically enhanced now, it is cut with unknown substances. We’re starting to see severe psychosis in some people that use it, and it’s not always a temporary condition.

To put it in the vernacular: the shit can blow your mind. Permanently.

Joe

Not the stuff they grow in Colorado’s medical mj program Pinto. It’s closely tracked and monitored as per state law, and some go so far grow hydroponically with purified water, then break it down and package it wearing latex gloves to prevent contamination and out of consideration for those patients with immune deficiency. People who could enjoy the boquet and taste of a good wine could also appreciate the buds that are the result of the skill and dedication of the growers. I would challenge you to take a wiff out of a jar of fresh hydroponically-grown indica and not be intrigued.

Robot Wrangler

No thanks, you can keep that shit. All I have ever seen is lazy pot heads, no motivation, no drive, no need to excel. Only thing they want to do is sit around, be lazy, eat junk and talk about stupid shit.

If it helps a chemo patient fine, let them smoke and stop vomiting, but most people with a medical perscription in states like California do not have a valid reason to be smoking it besides just wanting to get stoned.

I have had a few friends go to Cali and just say they have back pain that is hard to disprove and boom one script for pot.

Joe

There may be some lazy stoners around, but how do you explain all the creative, hard working people who toke, not to mention the last three presidents?

PintoNag

@54 Medically grown weed excepted, Joe. Problem being, some states allow its use, but prohibit growing it. Folks turn to the street drug as a result. That’s the situation I was referring to.

Joe

The Colorado system, if expanded to cover cannibis in general, not just MMJ, will minimize or prevent cannabis from out of state or country. Purity preserved, and no money to cartels.

OWB

So it’s OK for crazy people, felons, and just anybody to buy dope? Just ’cause they want it?? But I, who have never even considered committing a crime using any sort of weapon, must go through a background check to obtain a handgun.

Sure. Makes perfect sense – if you happen to be smoking dope!

Joe

You can’t shoot someone with a joint.

A_Proud_Duuude

Yeah, Boy Joe, but you can shoot the punk robbing your home for things to sell and feed his drug habit!! I remember when I was at my ten year HS reunion, one of my classmates who never failed to make the Honor Roll, had plenty of potential and talent in that day was little more than a zombie-like burnout dependent on a “fruit salad” of psych prescriptions from the drugs he did, and pot was his favorite. He came from a very well-to-do family, and told us how in those years he had been to drug rehab three times, diagnosed as schizophrenic, and the only schooling he had completed since high school was Job Corps training for carpentry. ( His Dad had had enough of his drug habit). Many a stoner I’ve come across in the past has parroted the harebrained crap you’re spouting, and none of them have had any self-motivation or initiative. In the meantime, I’ve succeeded, earned what I’ve got, and I’m just as sick as everyone else here of seeing more and more of my income confiscated to support dropouts, flunkies, and losers like you.

A_Proud_Infidel

Yeah, I forgot to change my screen name back after my last spoof comment!

Joe

A_Proud_Duuude: “sick as everyone else here of seeing more and more of my income confiscated to support dropouts, flunkies, and losers like you”. Ha! Never took a penny from you or any gov’t agency, don’t know why you think I have other than that I support legalization of marijuana, it reflects a real predjudice on your part. I’ve worked hard and played hard all my life, but if you feel compelled to send me a check I certainly won’t complain. In general, I would typify all the negative comments on this page as the caterwauling of a bunch of out of touch old white guys (and a few women) who seem to have forgotten that the democratic process has worked as it was designed in Colorado and Washington. Hey, all you conservatives support democracy and states rights, don’t you?

Hondo

Joe: and just who do you work for these days, amigo? Last time I checked, public schools were a government agency.

Ever drawn unemployment? Ever drawn social security? Gotten a Federally-guaranteed loan, student or otherwise? If so, you’ve taken funds from a “government agency” in those cases too.

And it’s obvious you want to “pick and choose” the parts of the Constitution you follow. Ever heard of something called the “Supremacy Clause”?

Sheesh. With apologies to John McEnroe: “You CANNOT be serious!”

Joe

Ha! So working hard in the public schools is equivalent to collecting welfare. Tell that to all the teachers out there. More public school bashing by the fringe. Ha! You’re so funny Hondo. YOU cannot be serious!

Joe

And it is interesting how you old conservatives flip-flop between states’ right and the supremacy clause depending on which bogus argument you’re promoting.

Hondo

I didn’t say that at all, oh Joe the Clueless. You made the categorical statement that you “Never took a penny from you or any gov’t agency . . . “. I merely pointed out the fact that you appeared to be in error in making that statement, since you’d previously mentioned you worked for a public school district. I’m assuming you received wages/salary from them and didn’t work for free.

That’s public tax money coming from a government agency, Joe. Are you going to give it back? Or are you going to admit that you have indeed taken money from a government agency?

I also see that you didn’t respond to the rest of my questions. Well? Have you ever received social security payments of any type? Unemployment compensation? A government-backed loan? A government-funded scholarship, research assistant position, or TA position? Government-sponsored loan forgiveness?

You’re the one who made the claim, Joe. So how about answering the follow-up quesitons.

Hondo

Joe: yeah, it’s interesting seeing how you libidiots flip-flop between states’ rights (marijuana usage) and Federal supremacy (civil rights laws), too. And just as irrelevant.

Not all either side do that – though I can think of precious few on the liberal side of the house who aren’t doing exactly that regarding the two issues I just mentioned. It’s mainly hypocrites like yourself who engage in such. And your side of the political spectrum seems to have the lion’s share of the hypocrites.

OWB

Well, Joe, once again you are wrong. But that is an old story, isn’t it?

For the most part I don’t give a flip what any state other than the one in which I reside does or does not do. I will continue to work hard to see that the state in which I reside reflects the values of me and my neighbors.

And, as your lying words reflect, there has been almost no discussion here about the Supremacy Clause. You have done approx half of that.

Btw, I am able to report on someone running down the street nude without advocating that anyone actually do it. Being able to observe facts and articulate them does not remotely imply advocacy of same. Are you of the view, for instance, that if a newspaper reports an armed robbery that they are supporting armed robbery generally??

Hondo

OWB – there you go again, using things like “logical argument” and “common sense” with Joe. Aren’t you ever going to learn? (smile)

Joe

None of the above Hondo. The only gov’t money I’ve ever taken is in the form of a hard earned paycheck.

I will say that since first, MMJ became legal in Colorado ten years ago, and more recently, it was legalized across the board for anyone over 21, the sky hasn’t fallen.

Hondo

No student loans or Pell grants while in college, and no FHA loans, eh? Well, good for you.

Still doesn’t alter the fact you were wrong above. Salary is still money from a government agency if you work for a government agency.

Joe

I wonder what kind of celebrations they had after the repeal of the Volstead Act in 1933? That’s kinda what was going on in Denver. Before I sign off, you guys should consider that hardworking men and women who choose to share a joint of tasty cannibas sativa or cannibas indica after work are not that different from people who like to drink a beer or two with their buddies after they punch out. More in common than you might think. And those of you still stuck in the “Reefer Madness” era, next vacation to Washington or Colorado take a puff and decide for yourself.

Nurse Ratchet

When are you leaving? I will be so glad when you’re gone!!

OWB

Tell you one thing – if you were ever near a kid of mine, as an admitted dope smoker, you would likely not be smoking any more dope.

Do whatever you want to do, there Joe, but if you are doing it on my dime or near children, you should certainly pay the consequences for doing it. That rule applies to teachers who drink as well. And pedophiles and a few other things as well.

UpNorth

Joey boy, it’s called dope for a reason. “There may be some lazy stoners around”? Seems there were thousands in downtown Denver that day, right Joey?

Ex-PH2

I figured Joey-boy out a while back. He can’t stand smoking dope alone. Like all social drunks, he has to convince people who don’t like the crap that he wants to consume that they should indulge right along with him.

If they don’t, they’re ‘bad people’ because they’re making him get high all by his lonesome, so he wastes an enormous amount of time and energy trying to convince everyone to join him in blazing up a doobie and gets his shorts in a wad if they say ‘No’. They always, always, always tell you that YOU’RE NOT COOL.

There’s nothing more obnoxious than a drunk who can’t drink alone, or a pothead who can’t smoke dope alone.

Oh, yeah, that drunken pot-smoking idiot I worked for got her ass fired right after I retired, because I wasn’t there to cover up and fix her mistakes for her any more.

A_Proud_Infidel

Boy Joe, the difference is that people have drinks to be social, the only reason anyone has a joint or a bowl is to get stoned. You and your ilk are a drain on society. If pot is so “harmless” then why do we have the huge number of drug addicts who started their downward spiral with smoking pot? It’s not called a “gateway drug” for nothing!

Joe

75 – OWB, the laws are similar to alcohol – 21 or over.
77 – Ex-PH2, Getting drunk and stoned at work is usually not a good practice.
78 – A, you can call it a gateway drug, you can call it chopped liver, but that doesn’t make it valid point. Here’s another correlation for you – 100% of drug addicts were born of mothers – let’s abolish motherhood.