“Abbiamo Un Nuovo Papa”
No word yet on who the Cardinals elected.
But the “who” will be interesting. We’ll know soon enough.
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Cardinal Scola? Seems to be the safe choice so far.
I just got off the phone with Cardinal Dolan, who is a personal friend of mine) …
Cardinal Bergoglio–Argentinian. So much for safe picks.
Can you say: Falkland Islands?
NHSparky: not completely unexpected. Someone from Latin America or the Philippines was thought to be most likely should the Pope be from outside Europe.
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MCPO: wouldn’t think so. The Church wasn’t exactly a big fan of the Generals running Argentina during the Falklands War, if I recall correctly. They also weren’t exactly fans of Pinochet in Chile.
Just another sh*t hole below the equator:
Argentina i/??rd??n?ti?n?/, officially the Argentine Republic[8] (Spanish: República Argentina [re?pu?lika a?xen?tina]), is one country of America, located in South America, bordered by Chile to the west and south, Bolivia and Paraguay to the north and Brazil and Uruguay to the northeast. Argentina claims sovereignty over part of Antarctica, the Falkland Islands (Spanish: Islas Malvinas) and South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands.
The country is a federation of 23 provinces and the autonomous city of Buenos Aires, its capital and largest city. It is the eighth-largest country in the world by land area and the largest among Spanish-speaking nations. Argentina is a founding member of the United Nations, Mercosur, the Union of South American Nations, the Organization of Ibero-American States, the World Bank Group and the World Trade Organization, and is one of the G-15 and G-20 major economies.
A recognized Southern Cone power,[9][10][11][12][13][14][15] and middle power,[16] Argentina is Latin America’s third-largest economy,[17] with a “very high” rating on the Human development index.[7] Within Latin America, Argentina has the fifth highest nominal GDP per capita and the highest in purchasing power terms.[18] The Legatum Institute have argued that the country has a “foundation for future growth due to its market size, levels of foreign direct investment, and percentage of high-tech exports as share of total manufactured goods”, and it is classed by investors as middle emerging economy.[19]
Only kidding … powerhouse of a country! Their navy not so much!
Say hello to Pope Francis… Jorge BERGOGLIA is the new pope. Foxnews.
IT’S BERGOGLIO.
I just found a great new web site to forrage, while checking out the military resume of Argentuna:
http://www.globalfirepower.com/
Viv il Papa! His father immigrated to Argentina (save the Nazi jokes) from Italy (save the fascist jokes.) He took a great name (Francis) and will no doubt be affectionately soon known as Pope Frank in the US. (I can hear Jimmy Cagney now “Whaddaya say, Francis?”)
Shorted the Pope an a. Stick it after Viv. Thanks.
An Italian from Argentina…shocking. Something like close to 2 in 3 Argentinians have some Italian heritage in a country thats predominately European stock.
He is Jesuit.
@13. That is so strange. I would think the press would be all over that but I guess there aren’t many Catholics in the media who actually know the history of the Vatican and the Jesuits. It ain’t pretty.
@ EX-PH2 … still sounds like a sandwich meat or cheese!
“Can I have a pastrami and Bergoglio cheese on rye with mustard, lettuce and tomoto?”
Dolan would have been easier to pronounce and remember!
@ 12 … alot of Germans down that way too … if you know what I mean!
Hell will freeze in a solid block before you see an American Pope. Promise.
Dolan had zero chance. After eons of I-talians, we’ve had a Polack, a Kraut and now a (can’t say it.) still, the world isn’t ready for a Mick as Pope!
#17, guess what? They will call him an American.
http://tinyurl.com/d5j7p2x
@ 18 … Say it … you covered everyone else!
@20. I can’t. Not until he is a former Pope.
@19 When’s the last time you said you were from the Americas? Technically, you would be correct if you did. But we call ourselves Americans.
They will never call him an “American.”
But you already knew that.
@19. That’s a great story, Valerie. Thanks for the link. Francis is my kind of fella.
isn’t he the one they predicted would indicate a victory for the “Romans” old guard Vatican folks?
OK … We need to understand our new Pope so I have provided a guide to Argentinian ghetto slang for the inalgorenet.web: Good stuff … rolls right off your tounge! Che: This is a well known word that is associated with only Argentina and the famous revolutionary Che Guevara. Che is just a way of saying, “hey”. EX: “Che Viejo” = Hey old man. Che Boludo: This is specific to Argentina. The literal meaning is “hey, big balls” but it is taken to mean “hey, asshole”. Depending on the inflection utilized and to who it is directed Boludo can be used playfully amongst friends or as an awful insult. Probably the most used slang in Argentina. Boludez: Something that is just stupid. Bolazo: An obvious exaggeration. Something said that just cannot be. Vos: Used instead of “Tu” to say “You”. They still you Tu but not as much as Vos. Mira Vos: “Look at you… that is great”. Used to show that you are impressed by something they have done or are doing. Chango: “Dude” “Good guy”. Used mostly in the Northern provinces such as Salta. Me Estas Cargando!: “You are shitting me!” Me Estas Jodiendo!: “You are fucking with me!” Puta Madre: “Whore of the mother!” There is no exact translation for son-of-a-bitch in Latin America. So, Puta Madre can be used instead. Hijo de Puta: “Son-of-a-whore”. Probably the closest saying to son-of-a-bitch you will find. Galenso: There are Welsh settlements throughout Patagonia and their descendants are called Galenso’s. The Spanish word for Wales is “Gales”…hence, Galensos are people from Wales. This word used to carry with it some negative undertones. Today it is used playfully amongst friends. Calenta la pava pero no sirva las mates: “She heats up the kettle but doesn’t serve the mate”. Mate is the national drink here…much like tea. Translated….”she is a tease”. Que Tal: “What’s up?” Used much like “que pasa” in other countries. You will rarely hear “que pasa” in Argentina as a greeting. Buen Dia: Instead of saying buenos dias Argentines will simply say “buen dia” or “buenas”. Trucho: False or… Read more »
@24. He has put his butt on the line many times in public opposition to the institutional moral decay of Argentinian society (It’s rather like the US in that regard). It’s a minor miracle he didn’t show up vanished one day, to coin a Yogism of sorts. He has also taken his own priests to task with apologies to none. So, yes, he is of the old guard.
Chief: The Pope called. He wants you to turn in your Rosary and scapular. Pronto.
Brazil!!
Oh!Carnival!! Says that crazy Defend as she snaps the castinets for the new guy…:)
I am just pissed they did not pick Cardinal Dolan. They could have thrown a bone to the Irish just days before St. Patrick’s Day!
MCPO: well, in one respect perhaps they did give the “bone” to the Irish just days before St Patrick’s day . . . . (smile)
Per the link in post number 19 “He became cardinal in 2001, when the economy was collapsing, and won respect for blaming unrestrained capitalism for impoverishing millions of Argentines.”
So we now have a Pope with a very poor grasp of economics.
Hondo … very pithy!
OK … out … almost 5:beer:thirty
Not uncommon in the Latin American Church, 68W58. Latin America is where liberation theology originated. The Church there is often somewhat leftward leaning – historically, perhaps at least partially as a reaction to decades of despotic right-leaning strongman rule. Though the politics of those ruling has changed in much of Latin America, the Church hasn’t quite changed as much – more institutional inertia.
We’ll see how this turns out. He might have changed a great deal since 2001.
Yes that unrestricted capitalism is very bad, of course hiding diddlers all over the country not so good either…
@33. NOT Francis. You are right about liberation theology previously gripping SA (and practiced particularly by Jesuits) but Pope John Paul II put the kibosh on that stuff. He publicly condemned it and took harsh action against some of its clerical proponents. That “Social Justice” cry is an outgrowth of it and is particularly popular with American lefty nuns and priests who use it as code for socialism and Marxism. I’m not concerned that Pope Frank is of that ilk. On the contrary, I am quite certain he is not.
Damn that unrestrained capitalism rampaging through the streets eating children! Good thing I live in a universe where capitalism is simply a means of getting cheap things that increase quality of life.
Yea, I was “shocked” they didn’t choose an African pope or the like.
I knew they would go with a safe choice, a pope from a Latin American country, but with European ancestry (Francis’ parents are from Italy).
So they had it both ways.
Stripes Don’t Call Me Francis…
Yeah, he’s an American – Sudamericano, pero Americano none the less.
Francis comes with a pretty good rep standing against things we here might generally categorize as leftist. With you, AC. This looks like a very good selection from here.
BTW … for all those keeping score. I am Irish Catholic. My jokes are all in jest and my cloth bearing family and relatives would most certainly atest to my purpose and enjoy the content.
It is the moment that I meet St. Peter for the first time I am most worried about.
St. Peter, “so, it is you” says the keeper of the gate, as he glares down at the aged freckled faced dumb-ass.
“Yes Sir, it is I”, says MCPO.
“Step aside”, St. Peter orders!
@40 – Master Chief, nobody’s perfect.