Judge accepts terms of Manning plea
Judge Col. Denise R. Lind has accepted the terms of Breanna Manning’s proposed plea, according to the Washington Post;
Under the terms, Pfc. Bradley Manning would accept responsibility for providing classified materials to the anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks. The offenses he is willing to plead guilty to carry a maximum term of 16 years in prison.
The decision by the judge, Col. Denise R. Lind, does not mean the plea by Manning has been formally accepted.
The government has not said whether it will proceed with the remaining counts, including violating the Espionage Act and aiding the enemy, which are more difficult to prove, experts say. Both require evidence of intent — and in the case of the Espionage Act, an intent to injure the United States.
It seems to me that they should have enough evidence to prove that his intent was to injure the US, what with all of his emails which have been captured. But, the prosecution and Big Army will punk out and take whatever they can get instead of prosecuting Manning to the full extent of the law because a few half-assed organized smelly hippies have their panties in a twist about Manning being in jail in the first place. Sixteen years is a drop in the bucket compared to what he’s earned for himself just so he could throw a hissy fit because his boyfriend dumped him.
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16 years? If it comes to that, he could be out of prison and a regular talking-head on tv by age 40. A certain segment of the population is waiting to prop him up as some kind of hero.
I don’t get it. Why accept any kind of plea deal? They’ve got him dead to rights. He did it, we know he did it, proving he did it will be easy, and unlike most espionage cases where they take a plea in order to prevent the details of what secrets he gave up from becoming public those details are ALREADY public. So why not hang him out to dry (or just hang him)?
Are you fricking kidding me?!? This guy will get freed in 3-4 years for “good behavior” and be a hero to all his fellow kool-aid drinking treasonous assclowns like Sheehan, Penn and Moore. Wow…
I’ll go sorta against the grain.
While I agree with the sentiment that he should be left in the House of Many Doors until his bones rot into nothing, can you imagine the outrage if, for whatever reason, he were to be found “not guilty”?
I know…he shouldn’t be “not guilty”. I also knew Casey Anthony wasn’t “not guilty”.
Now, I always thought there was no parole for federal beefs. If he’s sentenced to 16 years, my understanding is…he does 16 years.
Yeah, he’ll probably have to do the full 16, unless there’s a presidential pardon or something really crazy. Even so, after that 16, I wouldn’t be surprised if the rest of his life goes better than most folks–and that really bugs me.
I believe that in the case of federal time, the earliest you can be released is after 85% of your sentence is served.
Wait …
You see, she will be allowed to travel overseas when she “gets out”.
Stay with me on this one.
Say she is traveling in … um … France or Germany … better yet … Sweden, Holland, or some other unGodly cold place and … well … she accidentally slips and falls off a very high bridge on to some railroad tracks below … or through some horrible tragic act of random street crime violence finds a 22 caliber bullet tucked up behind her right ear. This could possibly be her fate.
DISCLAIMER: This satire should not be taken as a wish, order, proclamation, and/or directive to any thug, crime syndicate and/or three letter agency that may or may not operate in any area where Ms. Breanna Manning may or may not travel in the future after her release from prison.
He will likely get day-for-day credit for his pre-trial confinement. The Manual for Courts Martial (R.C.M. 305) is all over the place about this issue. What that likely means for Breanna, then, is that s/he’ll be credited “time served” for the time he spent at Quantico.
This ruling doesn’t mean he’ll get 16 years or is even capped at that. Instead here is where the case is procedurally (my best guess based on the reporting):
The defense attorney entered a plea of guilty for the accused for some of the offenses. These offenses, if we added up the max punishment for each, total 16 years. Just a note: the accused rarely gets anywhere close to max punishment.
This was not, it appears, a plea agreement between the government and defense, but what is called a “naked plea” because there is no ppromise for a max sentence as with most plea agreements.
This means the government is free to prove up the remaining offenses for which the max sentence is much highee. This kind of plea can make it harder to prove the more serious offenses as he is owning up to some of it and, procedurally, judges is mixed plea cases tend to acquit on the remaining charges because with the plea, the case will be generally error free where finding them guilty on remaining charges can result in more errors on appeal.
This fucking traitor needs to spend the rest of his days in prison. Knowing how incapable our vagina society has become and the unwillingness for even our military to actually deal out justice any longer among their ranks when it involves special protected groups expect the worst. Where is Hasan’s traitor ass? Oh, still pussy footing around his “right” to have a beard in his mass murder trail in which there is no question of guilt but rather just procedure. 3+ years, denied benefits for service members wounded by the enemy, and nobody cares especially our insane military brass who’s allowing this affront to justice.
I want her out and walking around! Prefer walking around outside the borders of the US. Fate will catch up to her!
…and someone will likely dismiss some of the other charges, citing they’re “duplicatory”.
@ #7- MCPO: That just might be an excellent story plot. Maybe, just maybe you should consider copyrighting that. “Copyright, MCPO (Master Chief Petty Officer) 2012 or something to that effect. Then you can keep the Goat Locker stocked with beer n steaks for when you throw the pre-screening party and all of us show up to trash out your livingroom or garage as the case may be. Just saying.
Just let it out in General Population there are a few patriotic guys there that will never get out. I doubt he will ever leave the prison alive.
The thing that pisses me off to no end is the fact this case will probably set a precedence when it comes to sentencing traitorous bastards in the future.
Remember the Walker Spy Case back in the 80’s ?
Even though it was proved that their actions resulted in the deaths of people , particularly in Vietnam because of their giving the russians codes for radio traffic, father and son only got life imprisonment when they should have got the firing squad.
This little bastard deserves same, but watch him get away with most of it because of his so called mental state.
Then in the future when the next little asshole comes along and betrays this country, they will look at this case , which will set the standard.
There was a time when you were shot at sunrise for this kinda shit.
love seeing posts by clueless – no parole in federal system – 16 years will be 16 years – its only clear he violated law in sending data.
walker case did not result in deaths, and their cooperation is what spared them from death penalty
This morning’s news: Aside from BM’s attorney’s request to drop the major charges because BM was badly treated (well, just what DO you do with sewage?) we are now told that Julian Assange, the founder of Wikileaks and the recipient of all that classified information that BM sent to him, is reported to be suffering from a severe lung infection in the Ecuadorian embassy in London.
IOW, he might die. That bites, doesn’t it?
Yeah, karma’s got shark’s teeth in this one.
Hey Boob C. First, there is no Federal parole. Second, buy yourself a copy of The Elements of Style for Festivus. The little book covers such things as capitalization, punctuation, and grammar. As a matter of fact, I’ll be happy to send you a copy. Just let me know your address. I won’t tell anyone.
And Boob, yes, the Walker/Whitworth spies gave information to the Soviets which DID in fact result in the deaths of American servicemen.
http://www.usni.org/magazines/navalhistory/2010-06/navys-biggest-betrayal
While on board the Niagara Falls , Walker served in the combat theater, so he is believed to have compromised the Navy’s theater cipher settings. Oleg Kalugin maintained that the North Vietnamese benefited from the Walker intelligence. Observers claimed Moscow gave Hanoi data enabling North Vietnam to anticipate B-52 strikes and naval air operations.
@ 13 … last time I had the Chief’s over … well my wife did not speak to me for a month!
@20 – You didn’t invite the wives, too? For pete’s sake, man, you have the women come over, you give us money to go shopping, and then you hold field day before we get home.
How do you not know this?