As if we needed another reason to hate her
I picked this up from my buddy, Maria Conchita Alonso, on Facebook. An article from UK’s Daily Mail about Jane Fonda’s latest book in which she admits to the world that her biggest regret in life is that she didn’t boink Che Guevara;
She supposedly confided during a feminist consciousness-raising session, ‘My biggest regret is I never got to f*** Che Guevara.’
Yeah, I can think of about a thousand things she could regret that she has done to screw up her life. Things like lying to the media about the North Vietnamese treatment of US prisoners of war, or making “FTA” – the movie meant to undermine the safety of troops involved in combat in Vietnam. Or being a big slut who slept her way through Hollywood. Or being a huge disappointment for her father.
No, her biggest regret is that she didn’t boink a smelly, unkempt commie murderer and failed revolutionary who tried to start a revolution where neither side wanted a revolution and paid for that mistake with his life.
I know, two Jane Fonda posts in the same week is a little much, but ya know the clueless bitch is begging for it.
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I would call her a slut but I’m afraid all my sponsors would pull their ads, so.
Back when ProtestWarrior.com was still big, this was a great 3×3 sign that confused the left like you would’nt believe!!
This woman needs to have a horrible accident…
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa…hang on a minute…
You’re friends with Maria Conchita Alonso? Awesome!
@4: I know, I was thinking the same thing; lucky bastard.
Hey; maybe Jonn can get her to do a guest post (Maria, not the skank Hanoi Jane)?
My God. As much as it may anger us younger patriots. Imagine on the 50th anniversary how the VN Vets might feel.
This is not in defense of Hanoi Jane or of Che, or even communism for that matter. But I have to ask you guys, if communism killed 100 million people, how many people did capitalism kill (and continues to kill on a daily basis)?
I have been reading through some of your posts here and I have to say, I can’t see how or why you would stand in support of the United States given the enormous amount of blood on its hands, regardless of who is in charge.
And with the latest atrocities committed in Afghanistan, its no longer viable for even conservatives to stand behind a geopolitical and economic framework that is by and large responsible for such a huge waste of life, time, and your precious American Pride.
Stand by the people, not your corrupt, hate mongering, sexist, racist Republican Party and/or libertarian ideology.
James Kolfax; I can’t remember one incident in history during which capitalism intentionally starved millions because the system wasn’t working, and that’s happened more than once with communism. I remember reading about a kulak being executed in the Soviet Union for hiding a crust of bread under the floor boards of his house. Capitalism survives on more people flourishing, not on fewer people.
Yeah, and if you want to see some “corrupt, hate mongering, sexist, racists”, you ought to look at the people who claim to be “fighting for the people”.
Too bad she was too old for Polanski…
Heh… And it would be an insult to decent sluts everywhere, Ms. Fonda, is a full fledged hippie skank.
Stand for “the people” man! Like atrocities man! The pursuit of free markets is just like the forced imposition of communism man! Yeah!
“Stand by the people, not your corrupt, hate mongering, sexist, racist Republican Party and/or libertarian ideology”.
So, which Occutard group are you with, Kolfax?
Or, is it WCW, or just some Euro Communist party?
Kolfax, the DU is down the stairs at the end of the hall, in the basement with the other vermin.
Being the son of a Defectee from East Germany and having Patrolled the East German West German/ Czech Borders, I have seen directly with the fruits of Socialism- not being in contact with her side of the family, the Searchlights, Minefields and Dog Runs and Armed Patrols, with the Stasi making sure everyone reported on everyone. Remind anyone of Homeland Security or the SD?
Sorry that should read seen and dealt directly w/ the fruits…
UpNorth, what you got against World Championship Wrasslin? That was the shit when I was like 5 years old.
Yeah, sure just go droppin’ names of the Hotties you know…one of my favorites!
James Kolfax just go back to the bottom of the pond from whence you crawled or GFYS.
Kolfax: no ideology is completely free of guilt regarding killing others; each has its selfish idiots more interested in personal gain who are literally willing to kill. But capitalism is probably the ideology with the fewest such idiots.
If you want to see a comparison, see R. J. Rummel’s site at
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/welcome.html
He’s studied the issue of democracy vs. autocracy – and how ideology increases or decreases the chance of being killed by one’s government – for over 3 decades.
I’ll give you the short version: Communist regimes are by far the world-leaders in murdering people, surpassing any reasonable projection of that caused – directly or indirectly – by all democratic/capitalistic nations combined. In particular, Communist China and Soviet Russia are each individually estimated to have murdered millions more people than all deaths attributable to Western colonialism put together.
I would point out that she has made her money off of capitalism, but the hypocrisy would be lost on her and the liberal crowd.
Actually, I am not affiliated with any group or party or OWS “retards” or what have you. I am just a journalism student going to school on the Post 9-11 GI Bill. Yep, I served in Iraq as an army trigger puller (11C). I think I know pretty clearly what I saw, and a lot of what the mainstream didn’t see (hence why I got into journalism)! And while I don’t blame a single American for our loss, I DO blame the inherently destructive and insatiable economic system that is not only waging war against foreign countries, but on our homeland and our citizens and our employment as well. You gotta love the immediate communist sympathizer attacks just for questioning capitalism. As if I were a card-carrying member of the Communist Party of America! I agree. Communism was horrible. But do you guys just see what you want to see, or do you actually think this is 1955?? Are you seriously scared of some nonexistent threat? Because last I checked the Berlin wall fell 23 years ago. You say capitalism never in history starved millions of people? Seriously, Jonn…read a book. Its called structural violence, and its killing millions of people all over the 3rd world as we speak. But on the topic of communism, I think — or maybe I’m just too ignorant to see it your way — but didn’t the end result of the Communist Manifesto have NOTHING to do with its intentions? Wasn’t the failure of communism due to the fact that a greedy oligarchy within a worker’s system was the reason for its atrocities and eventual demise? Kind of like how Communist China can’t really say its communist, but rather a privileged few capitalists hiding behind a red flag (or an American flag, for that matter, if you take into consideration that most our flags are now made in China!). America is really no different in that regard. This ain’t democracy, its a corporatocracy. And you guys are freakin’ nuts if you stand by these corporations and the hacks they hire to run our proud… Read more »
“Seriously, Jonn…read a book”
Lemme guess…Ron Paul supporter?
“Its called structural violence, and its killing millions of people all over the 3rd world as we speak”
Now you sound like a one world government, socialist type.
Kolfax: no. Communism was a brain-dead system from the day Marx conceived it. It ignores basic human nature, and was therefore doomed to failure.
Were humanity a population of saints and/or true altruists, Communism might have a chance. It actually works in communities selected along those lines. It’s the guiding principle of monasteries, convents, and religious communes.
Unfortunately, only about 5% of humanity is primarily altruistic – and that may well be a high estimate. The remaining 95+% of humanity are greedy, selfish bastards who are most interested in taking care of themselves and their families. Any system that ignores that fact is doomed.
Communism failed because it tried to impose the world view of less than 5% of humanity on the remaining 95%, ignoring human nature in the process. Anyone with 3 or more working brain cells should have been able to predict the end result.
Obviously, you’re down to 2 or less.
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I can’t wait till drunkard dave shows up to tell james this just an echo chamber!
Kolfax: Sorry, we are not a democracy we are a representative republic you should know the difference. You also seemed to forget the wonderful example of communism in North Korea, its working out so well for the masses. Everywhere the communist model has been tried it has been a dismal failure for the workers. And let us also not forget its cousin national socialism.
Mr. Kolfax-
YEah, indeed the Wall fell in 1989. Nope, I do not think it’s 1955. But you better open your eyes wider, man. Capitalism is what will save this country. It’s those with the power who are killing it. They get enough for themselves as they all others and enact ridiculous laws and enable the real protective laws to be broken. Why you are not holding those people accountable as you piss on the engines that made this country what it is is beyond me. Go watch Atlas Shrugged. Maybe you will get a clue. And, just for shits and grins, how about if you tell me the last time you did something that government didn’t have a hand in? Lightbulbs, cars, haircuts, cab rides, school lunches…just a few hints.
Kolfax: it may not be 1955, but Communism is alive and well, and doing what it does best: suppress, then murder its people. The President’s personal advisors have let out how they admire Mao; and, some planned on murdering upward of 23 million Americans in concentration camps. When asked on this, they admitted they low-balled the number.
No, it’s not 1955, but when you compare how union members have directly attacked moderate Democrats, and those few who escape the plantation, Mao’s Cultural Revolution of 1966-1976 may come to mind. Party disloyalists, moderates, and other dissidents such as Deng Xiaopeng were violently purged in favor of absolute party loyalty.
Jonn mentions the kulaks. You may want to read up on “The Great Leap Forward” that starved tens of millions of China’s people. Then look at our own Central Valley of California. Once in the top ten of breadbaskets, and the US’s leader of food exports, is a barren desert. It isn’t capitalism that makes Central Valley a pit of shit, but pure communism. A single person, a judge, has ruled.
And there are millions of humans going hungry, thousands starving to death, but a single judge following his communist principle has deemed those humans as unworthy of life.
You’re a Journalism Major, so you’re learning to observe and report (no, I know that’s not true, but it was the original purpose of Journalism). Learn to discern as well. Not everything is the same, or can be equated.
Turn the question around: how many people has capitalism taken from poverty up to the greatest wealth? How many has communism?
“It’s called structural violence”.
Nothing like a foray into post modern deconstructionism and the nonsense that follows for everyone here to understand you have nothing concrete to substantiate your position. You’ve certainly got a future in “journalism” though. Perhaps you’ll forego any payment for what you create. You could donate it to the people. Or maybe use it to highlight the alternative economic system you advocate. What is that system anyway?
Communism was so great that those living under its oppression risked their lives to escape it over, under, and around the Berlin Wall, and still do, across the DMZ.
It was such a great system that Stalin’s own daughter defected.
The American “Experiment” is so much a failure that foreigners risk starvation, death by de-hydration, freezing and searing temperatures in the desert, as well as drowning in the Rio Grande, in order to get here.
By some estimates, Stalin alone killed 100 Million of his own countrymen. Only Islamism challenges him as the record holder. National Socialist Adolf Hitler killed 6 Million Jews and Millions of others. Ba’athist (pan Arab Socialism) Saddam killed 300,000 of his own civilians (plus those “martyred” in wars). Islamist Sudan killed 10’s of thousands. Che Gueverra & Fidel Castro killed at least 10’s of thousand of Latino civilians. Communist Narco-Terrorists FARC & ELN have killed tens of thousands.
She would have been 10 when he inhaled a mag of .30 Carbine, sick Bitch.
Mr. Kolfax, you say you’re a journalism student, and yet your opinions of what is wrong and who did it and what you think needs to be done about it are already set in concrete.
You think you’re enlightened, and going to be part of the group that “saves” this country? All you’re doing is setting yourself up to become part of the problem.
Surprised nobody else said it yet, but anybody seen Kolfax’s bona fides? 214 that shows 11 series or a Ako profile for our new friend Jimmy?
No sense arguing with someone who’s full of shit…
Lemme guess…Ron Paul supporter?
This made me laugh outloud.
Baghdad Barbarella strikes again. You know this might seem a stupid question but why for the love of all that is holy are we talking about a woman whose pubic hair was trimmed and dyed in the shape of a red star?
I think the better story would be how many STDs she got from providing to the “needs” of our enemies according to her abilities. I bet that Camel toe has more sand on it than an entire caravan through the Sahara
Seriously, guys. When someone so completely brain-dead shows up and starts commenting, just ignore it. Seriously. Closed minds like Kolfax’ don’t respond to logic. that’s why they congregate at places like DKOS and DU, StormFront and RonPaul sites.
Just leave them alone to read their books, mkay?
It’s a slow night, Tim. Nothing better to do than kick the new troll around, I guess. He’s a “journalism student”? Lemme guess, Kolfax, you want to be just like Keef Olberman, Ed The Fargo Fatass Schultz, Piers Morgan or Rachel Madcow? You know, fair, objective and unbiased? Or, is it more likely you want to be a “journolist” so you can push your ideology under the false meme of journalism?
And, communism turned out bad, because the right people weren’t in charge? C’mon Kolfax, you can do better than that, can’t you?
And, his last paragraph in #21 just confirms what I said, another Occutard.
“Its called structural violence”
Seriously? You are paraphrasing Monty Python for your arguments? Just stay with ‘Violence inherent in the system!’ so at least your position will have entertainment value.
For someone who rants about the ‘structural violence’ of capitalism, you ignore the fact that Communism/Marxism REQUIRES structural violence and killing of millions each year to maintain their power. If they did not, Communism/Marxism would fall from power immediately.
Capitalism, and America, are not be perfect but nothing ever is. They may be the worst systems and concept ever created by man – except compared to all others.
And we even have proof of that. It is capitalism and America that allows you with the opportunity and mean to openly rip both of them to your heart’s content, without fear or reprisals. Trying doing that in a communist country (Or even merely a socialist one.) and see how far you get.
hell yeah. Take a trip over to some “enlightened” socialist state like Spain and see how well the “Occupy_______” crap goes over with the Guardia Civile.
Hint: It doesn’t. They’ll throw you in one of their 3rd-world level jails and wait 12-18 months to decide what to charge you with. They don’t give a rat’s ass if you’re an American citizen or not. Even the US Consul in Spain will tell you that, with their system, you’re on your own, buddy.
Ask around on the understream about the number of Greek demonstrators who have “taken ill” and been rushed to “hospitals” for demonstrating too loudly against the Greek Socialist government. That’s what happens to their OWN citizens when they get too uppity. Imagine how much they’ll love American numbnuts showing up in “solidarity” with their Greek brothers & sisters, eh?
Kolfax: You are the perfect example of everything that is wrong in journalism in this great nation. From the highest place in Columbia’s Faculty Moronosphere, to the lowliest guttersnipe of a Occutard Blogger, you are the ideal expression of them all. Kolfax! Thy name is Assmagot!
James Kolfax Says:
maybe I’m just too ignorant to see it your way — but didn’t the end result of the Communist Manifesto have NOTHING to do with its intentions? Wasn’t the failure of communism due to the fact that a greedy oligarchy within a worker’s system was the reason for its atrocities and eventual demise?
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No, you’re not ignorant really. Just gullible and retarded. You’re a dope, but, quite likely, a well educated dope. Did the end result of the CM have nothing to do with it’s intentions? Yes and no. That’s because what comes after it’s implementation isn’t important. It doesn’t really matter what the end result is, utopia or dystopia. The after is not the goal. It’s about the dismantling of what stands at the time before year zero. Whatever follows is not a concern. Marxism, the manifesto, etc, is simply a guide to economic and social arson. That’s all it ever was. The intention is destruction, not what follows it. Ideally, a worker’s paradise. But, it’s not conditional. Anything will do, so long as the status quo is burned to the ground.
otho:
Square in the black. Thank you.
What a traitorious skank. In another era she would be long dead for her treason or imprisoned, and after release fade away to hide her shame in obscurity. Not only has she continued to work but seems to reinvent herself every decade. That her past has no revelance is what is truly disgusting!
I’m sure ten years down the road Jonn, she will have explained this away…
Loved the debate. Colfax getting destroyed with logic.
Frontal lobes do not fully develop in the human male until roughly 23-25…im 30 and still waiting…argh.
Good news is the guy served and I value that. Bad news is he is wrong. But hopefully he wont stay wrong forever. Good debate gugs
otho: The Communists used to call folks like Kolfax “useful idiots”. The term is apropos.
And the fact that he’s a journalism student explains much.
@37: Tim, it’s never a bad thing to educate someone on here by others, because even if they can’t be changed, there are many others that are reading it and will get a fresh perspective. Contrary to the mumblings of our more drooling moonbat regulars, there are some very well educated and well spoken peeps that reply here (I’m not one of them) and I find it quite educational to read many of these posts. Many are well read (I’m not one of them, either, unless you count Car Craft/Hot Rod/ Gun Digest) and can provide excellent book recommendations. So, it’s a win-win at this site.
James:
Look, I understand. You come home disillusioned and angry, so you reject the thing that sent you there. It happens to a lot of people.
But capitalism is not the enemy. It’s a convenient target, sure-everything Mom and apple pie, everything you thought you fought for and wound up wasting lives for. But again, capitalism is not the enemy. Capitalism is an economic system. It doesn’t force people to go to war. It doesn’t require that everyone agree with it.
Communism is, however, a danger. I see it seducing a lot of my friends in the anti-war camp. It sounds so sweet-everyone equal. No more greed, no more problems, everyone happy, no more wars. A lot of good, reasonable people are tempted by it.
But those people, and it sounds like you, aren’t looking behind the curtain. If not everyone wants communism (and they don’t), then how to attain it? Only by bloodshed. It has never been brought about by peace. And how to maintain it? It is human nature to try to provide for the family. Well, blood there too. How to stamp out individualist leanings? Blood and censorship.
Communism has far more direct blood on its hands.
You say that capitalism is responsible for death in the third world, but communism wouldn’t improve their lot much either. You can’t share what isn’t there. And if the United States played true Lady Bountiful to the world, everyone’s standard of living here would fall sharply. It’s not a thing most want.
So I’d ask-what do you really want? An end to suffering, or just an outlet for your anger?