Arizona SWAT Team Cleared in Former Marine’s Killing
Others here have covered this in some depth, but I just stumbled across this:
Arizona SWAT Team Cleared in Former Marine’s Killing
The SWAT team that gunned down a former Marine in his Tucson, Ariz., home was cleared today of any wrongdoing in the incident.
Jonn and others here can amplify, etc. I just wanted to get this out there ASAP.
Looks to me like bullshit on top of bullshit.
Category: Politics
I agree. Can anybody say, “coverup”??
This is such bull, I can not help but think we are not living in america any more ! I want to see them get life for the cold blooded murder of this soldier! When a marine is gunned down by the very government he fought for,, Its open season on swat
Wow… I’m SO surprised …
Such fools, such fools …
The greater tragedy is the lack of outcry by other law enforcement agencies…..every single one is sitting silently.
I like how they claim that photos showed that he was aiming the rifle at them, but somehow nobody in the press has found these photos.
The fishing expedition warrant without probable cause alone is going to cost the county big bucks. “He was once seen in the same truck as a roll of plastic wrap”, the same plastic wrap used to wrap the furniture in his mothers house. Yeah, that’s clearly proof of something.
Anyone know or can find out the names of the f**kups on this so-called SWAT team?
After that, I leave it to the imagination what can be done to these Stazi polozi.
Welcome to the Blue Wall Of Silence.
Of course they were cleared of wrongdoing; they were investigated by their own office.
I just read the article and they are saying the same bullshit they did before about how heavily armed and armored the Marine was. They fired because he pointed at them? Really? I noticed that 2 of the shooters didn’t even have a visual on the target as they were shooting. I, also, noticed that they didn’t fire until one of their own entry team had an AD that started the whole thing. Now, this statement of why they fired is different from several other versions that they have given, including the first lie that he fired at them first. They have done nothing but lie and change their story from the very beginning. If they weren’t wearing badges, they would be in jail right now just for changing their story as many times as they have. Those same LEOs would say that you and I were lying and that we are guilty based solely on how many times we change our stories; so why doesn’t the same standard apply here?
This whole thing was a clusterfuck from jumpstreet, including their intel, and it just gets worse every time they run a story about it. They screwed the pooch and killed an innocent man with the potential of killing his young son and wife to boot. They don’t deserve to carry a badge, ever, none of them, including sheriff dumbass.
Big cover-up. I hate being right. Did anyone here think it would turn out any different? Memo to all, don’t be seen with plastic wrap.
So, where the hell is the AZ attorney general? I can’t believe that he’s not aware of this cover-up. And the US Attorney?
If this had been a member of the Crips or Bloods, or New Black Panther Party, who’d actually unloaded a weapon on a cop, and got smoked, the DoJ would be there to make sure that no stone was unturned in prosecuting them. Yet, when no shots were fired, not a peep?
“The team members were: Officer Jake Shumate, of Marana police; Officer Jason Horetski of Oro Valley police, Officer Hector Iglesias, of Sahuarita police; and Deputies Kenneth Walsh and Chris Garcia of the Pima County Sheriff’s Department.”
Officer Jake Shumate said Guerena “raised the rifle and pointed it towards us and then fired multiple shots.” Shumate is the liar.
“Officer Iglesias then slipped and fell backward, which the other officers mistook as a fall after being shot,” Iglesiais is the moron who fell because he he started to run backwards in the fatal funnel after his AD.
Must be nice, to be held to a lower standard than a marine in Helmand.
The source of all this bullshit is Dumbass Dupnik. He needs to get dead and very soon.
As far as cops, I have said it before and will say it again. Cops don’t like us, and they regard it as being a “us vs them” situation on the street. They ain’t there to protect and serve, but to keep us under their thumbs and maintain order if possible. But it is very clear based upon any number of cases that any time a cop or cops murder a civilian, they will get away with it.
And this was bound to happen, and it will happen again, and soon. You have a bunch of halfass trained commando wannabes, wearing body armor, helmets, and military uniforms, carrying automatic weapons but with no real training on how to safely handlel them, who have to find a justification to keep funding alive or they will end up not having that particular capability anymore. So they dream up raids to get publicity and justification for the expense of keeping their paramilitary groups alive. And the wrong person gets capped.
From a comment I posted somewhere else
You might ask why how and why this team of killer clowns got created and my guess (and it’s only a guess) is a combination of ego and money. Too much ego and not enough money.
Sheriff Dupnik’s list of accomplishments has this as the fifth:
“Oversaw the creation of the Pima Regional SWAT team. This accomplishment resulted in the largest, most capable tactical team in the state of Arizona and the only FEMA type 1 tactical team in the southern region of the United States. …”
So it appears Dupnik wanted a huge team so he could beat his chest, but he couldn’t find anyone that wanted to pay for NYPD’s ESU in Pima County. (460,000 population excluding Tucson – and Tucson PD isn’t part of Pima County Regional SWAT.) So he got a bunch of little PDs to join up with him to create a regional team.
But sending people to training is expensive in time and money. Effective firearms training of the type that a competent and well-trained tactical team considers adequate (much less optimal) requires a lot of ammo purchased and fired and a lot of time spent on the range. Ensuring team stability in a regional organization like this is hard and takes someone who cares and is willing to argue with police chiefs. Training as a team is expensive in time and/or overtime dollars. Ensuring that team members show up to train as a team again requires someone who cares and is willing to argue with police chiefs.
Nobody really cares. Nobody wanted to spend the money. But they wanted the prestige of having “one of the largest, most capable tactical team in the Country”, and they got one out of two.
Hence you get Dupnik’s killer clowns; a bunch of poorly trained, poorly led cops who respond per “training” and people get unnecessarily killed
Dumbshit may have the largest tactical team in the state of Arizona, but they sure as hell aren’t capable, at least capable of doing the job they’re supposed to be doing.
He probably got federal money to buy all the little toys his “SWAT team” gets to play with, but, like Kevin said, it takes money to keep up with the training. Spend money on training, nah, he’d rather have press conferences and shoot off his blowhole on things he doesn’t know anything about, like the Tuscon shootings or this cluster. And, run for office over and over.
I suggest reading the many documents released with an open mind. These families appear to be involved in illegal drug activity. For a conspiracy, the police were pretty stupid for admitting later that the weapon was on safe and not fired instead of just maintaining he shot first.
The majority of police are no more “Us vs Them” than most the military are.
Sheriff Dipstick probably watched the movie S.W.A.T., got a huge woody, then figured how hard could it be? And who the hell certified them as a FEMA type 1 tactical team? Los Angeles, and the LA county teams would be larger, and hell of a lot more proficient then this blowhole’s pipedream.
Reminds me of watch?v=uIedW4HG5gE
SrA Elio Carrion shot 3 times while obeying officers instructions and the cop was found not guilty.
Alright gang, I’m back in blog form and based a quick analysis on the KGUN story. I still haven’t been able to find the complete autopsy report despite searching for over an hour. If anyone can point me to it I would appreciate it. My analysis was limited because I can’t reconstruct the scene based on the limited info provided in the KGUN article. I need measurements and exact locations of projectile entrances and exits, trajectories, etc. I would like to devote considerable time to the analysis and provide sixteen years of scene reconstruction to the Guerena family free of charge as a way of thanking Jose and his family for their sacrifices for this country.
Every time I review this story I can’t help but think of a Mexican fellow who earned his citizenship in the U.S. Army and hired on as a police officer in my department. The day before he reported to the team I heard my troops talking shit about him being Mexican. My response?
“That guy took an AK round through the throat in the Iraq to earn his citizenship, what the fuck have you ever done?”
Damn, now I’m pissed off all over again.