Libya and the Left

| March 7, 2011

The raging civil war in Libya presents itself as a quandary for the anti-war. anti-US Left. it seems that, according to the UK’s Independent, the US is urging the Saudis to supply weapons to the Libyan guerrillas;

The Saudis have been told that opponents of Gaddafi need anti-tank rockets and mortars as a first priority to hold off attacks by Gaddafi’s armour, and ground-to-air missiles to shoot down his fighter-bombers.

Supplies could reach Benghazi within 48 hours but they would need to be delivered to air bases in Libya or to Benghazi airport. If the guerrillas can then go on to the offensive and assault Gaddafi’s strongholds in western Libya, the political pressure on America and Nato – not least from Republican members of Congress – to establish a no-fly zone would be reduced.

US military planners have already made it clear that a zone of this kind would necessitate US air attacks on Libya’s functioning, if seriously depleted, anti-aircraft missile bases, thus bringing Washington directly into the war on the side of Gaddafi’s opponents.

So the “Peace President” is planning a proxy war in the Middle East, but, according to the Washington Post, the Left’s darling in South America, Hugo Chavez is still clinging to his old buddy Gaddafi and warns the world that the US is planning on invading Libya for (whatelse) seizing oil fields (like we have in every conflict since Vietnam with such stunning success);

Though uncharacteristically quiet as Libya slid into anarchy, Chavez has in recent days venerated Gaddafi for his revolutionary credentials and asserted that the United States is about to invade the North African country to seize its oil. He also convened a meeting Friday in the Venezuelan capital in which his allies, including Cuba, Nicaragua and Bolivia, agreed to a vague peace mission to end the violence in Libya.

“The countries of the Bolivarian alliance are demanding the United States and the world powers respect the people of Libya,” Chavez said to cheering, red-shirted supporters. “No to imperialist intervention in Libya! No to a new imperialist war that looks for oil over the blood of innocents!”

Of course, Chavez communist buddies in Nicaragua (Ortega) and Cuba (Castro) chime in to support fellow traveler Gaddafi.

So while Libyans are struggling against a repressive dictator, Code Pink is more worried that Bradley Manning has no clothes. They nearly broke their neck getting to Egypt, they harp about Israel in regards to the Palestinians, but an actual dictator killing his countrymen gets not a whisper.

The man who told us he’d get us out Iraq during the 2004 campaign, is urging that the Obama Administration begin a “no fly” zone over Libya;

Mr. Kerry’s support for a no-flight zone was echoed by two Republicans who spoke on the Sunday television news shows — Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Senate minority leader, and Senator John McCain of Arizona, the Republican presidential candidate in 2008.

Yeah, there’s no accounting for some opinions.

Personally, I don’t think there’s not a Libyan life worth an American life. All of the bullshit we’ve put up with from the world over Guantanamo, Hussein, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and how much other bullshit in the last ten years. The world would only find a way to blame us for something if we interfered in Libya. Let them murder each other for a few more months until the UN summons the cajones to screw it up permanently.

Either way, whether we do something or not, we’re going to get blamed, so we might as well do the thing that gets fewer Americans killed. That’s also the advice, more or less, that I gave TSO on his wedding day.

Category: Barack Obama/Joe Biden, Terror War, United Nations

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Zero Ponsdorf

The world would only find a way to blame us for something if we interfered in Libya.

Shucks Jonn, I reckon ‘the world’ is ALREADY blaming us us for every trouble on going in the ME and beyond.

Sadly, a limited case could be made that ‘they’ are right. Decades of leaving unfinished business here and there CAN add up.

Old Trooper

We need to just stay out of it. Let Europe worry about it, for once. Although someone in Europe said, candidly, that they couldn’t hold a football field in Libya and that only the US could do anything there. While it’s nice to be thought of that way, it doesn’t change the fact that the person who said it was just blowing smoke to try and get us more involved in the shit over there. Let Europe take point this time. The Brits have an SAS unit ready on a moments notice and the French have the Foreign Legion, who know how to kick ass and take names, the Dutch can send more Royal Marines, etc. It doesn’t always have to be us.

Jacobite

Exactly. Like I said last week, let em soften each other up real good before we decide to do anything.

And as for having personal designs on Libya’s oil,ya know, same as in Iraq it’d be funny if it weren’t so sad, but it’s a hell of a lot cheaper to buy their oil than it would be to try and ‘steal’ it, why can’t the Left figure that one out?

bman

Let the shits and sinus fight it out.

DaveO

I wonder if it was Khadaffy’s quick capitulation on WMD after Mr. Bush’s ‘with-us-or-against-us’ speech that turned Progressives off their favorite terrorism facilitator.

He must have done something wrong. Well, maybe not – Sean Penn hasn’t graced us with his opinion yet.

Thunder 26

Fuck ‘Em. Let them find there own way. It is not up to us to help these people out. Aren’t these the same people who cheered and danced when the World trade center came down? Let them dance now. Anything we do in the region will be considered wrong,and only piss someone off. Let them kill each other off,and then we will deal with the outcome.

Cedo Alteram

I’m also weary of getting us involved, if for no other reason we just have no idea who the power players in that country are. I also don’t believe Obama has any idea what kind of outcome he wants, to even formulate a plan to work towards. An Islamist take over is always a possibilty we must be concerned about. Even then how might we prevent such an ending, with no other competing faction to support?

Fragile economy, armed rabble for its defense, and an unstable, delusional, crackpot for a leader, we should pray for such adversaries. There is no immediate threat that could emerge from that craphole that we couldn’t stomp. See Ronald Reagan.