Decades of stolen valor
Terry Fredricks has been regaling the Farmington, NM folks with the tales of his daring-do over the Pacific and China a member of the famed “Black Sheep” squadron. The problem is that the Marine Corps never heard of him and he was too young to have served as a pilot any-damn-way;
Terry explained to us that any attempt since the theft to recover his most important records were futile because of a massive fire some years ago in St. Louis that destroyed many such documents.
We were aware of that fire from previous research over the years and knew that such a fire did occur.
However, once we further pursued Terry’s claim about his own documents, military officials told us that in that fire, records attached to the Marine Corps were not among those destroyed as they were for other branches of the service, and that most such records, though some were damaged, still exist.
That’s why I don’t trust any of these douche-bags when they tell me their records were lost in a fire. There was indeed a fire, but it has become an excuse for many of the phonies of the earlier time periods.
Perhaps most defining in researching Terry’s story: Military sources said that no Terry Fredericks, using either the service ID number he provided and/or both dates of birth he provided, ever served in the United States Marine Corps during World War II.
Damn Marine Corp keeping records like that which only serves to suppress phonies’ freedom to express themselves.
Category: Phony soldiers
There really was a fire in St Louis in about ’73. When I signed up for Social Security in ’02 I was told that our records were also in, I think, Dallas, TX. I have no idea if they were original or copies.
Don’t remember this guy being around selling his story when I was a kid back in Farmington (he’s actually from Bloomfield, one town over) but I’m going to take a wild guess and say that this guy is going to have a very rough go of it up there. Folks in that area don’t take kindly to phonies and fakes, and REALLY don’t like being fed a line of BS.
What really burns my ass is they give this guy all sorts of play, and REAL WWII heroes (Navajo Code-talkers come to mind) are going with barely any mention or recognition at all.
We can’t let this continue. I’ll call the Commandant right away and have him burn some records. We need to make this country safe for phonies to continue to perpetuate fraud!
When I would require SF 180’s on my new patients many said…”My records were burned up in the fire in St. Louis”. My reply….”You were in WWII?” No Vietnam records were destroyed. Never saw these “patients” again.
Have heard many guys try and use that as an excuse. One guy said…”I’ll show you the letter from the VA”….never saw it.
Pilot of the Enola Gay….but my records were destroyed in a fire…trust me guys.
This is why I continue to come to this site. I may disagree with most of you politically 99% of the time. But when it comes to stolen valor and exposing the phonies this site sets the standard. And seeing three articles on it this morning starts my day off on the right foot. Thank you.
On a side note, 50 hours community service? Isn’t that extremely light for falsifying a federal document? Did this guy also get benefits too, or just do it to wow his buddies at the VFW?
VMF214 has records, especially of its time under Pappy Boyington. Marine Corps Museum at Quantico may have the archives (rosters, flight logs, etc).
funny how that fire makes everyone think that they can get away with it. Its as if they thing that there couldn’t POSSIBLY be another way to find out if someone served.
My grandfather said they’d lost his records from Korea when he tried to contact them about something or other; since he had EVERYTHING from that period, he sent them copies, and even managed to get them to send him a medal for which he had paperwork but which he’d never received.
I never even knew he’d been in the Army until I visited just prior to going to Afghanistan. He’d never talked about it. Now he tells tales of universal truth–dumb lieutenants, idiotic orders from on high, and general Army bloody-mindedness.
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