John Adams/Dec. of Ind./Historical question
OK, so the staff meeting I was just in lasted longer than the Cold War, but I was smart enough to grab a copy of the Declaration of Independence which I feigned to take notes on. Anyway, I came across this line listed within the list of grievances:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these states;
Anyway, it refers to “mock Trial” and not “Trials” so presumably it is referncing one trial, and one would assume from the general theme here that it is a reference to the trial following the Boston Massacre. Only, mitigating against that is the fact that one of the signers of the Dec is “John Adams” who, of course, was the defense attorney in that case. In fact, some brief wiki-ing, I found his journal entry:
“Before or after the Tryal, Preston sent me ten Guineas and at the Tryal of the Soldiers afterwards Eight Guineas more, which were. . .all the pecuniary Reward I ever had for fourteen or fifteen days labour, in the most exhausting and fatiguing Causes I ever tried: for hazarding a Popularity very general and very hardly earned: and for incurring a Clamour and popular Suspicions and prejudices, which are not yet worn out and never will be forgotten as long as History of this Period is read…It was immediately bruited abroad that I had engaged for Preston and the Soldiers, and occasioned a great clamour….
“The Part I took in Defence of Cptn. Preston and the Soldiers, procured me Anxiety, and Obloquy enough. It was, however, one of the most gallant, generous, manly and disinterested Actions of my whole Life, and one of the best Pieces of Service I ever rendered my Country. Judgment of Death against those Soldiers would have been as foul a Stain upon this Country as the Executions of the Quakers or Witches, anciently. As the Evidence was, the Verdict of the Jury was exactly right.
“This however is no Reason why the Town should not call the Action of that Night a Massacre, nor is it any Argument in favour of the Governor or Minister, who caused them to be sent here. But it is the strongest Proofs of the Danger of Standing Armies.”
Anyway, is that what this reference is to? It seems a little odd that the defence attorney would sign a declaration proclaiming his own trial (that he essentially won) to be a farce. Anyone have any historical background, or something further I can read? Did he have any moral qualms about that section?
Also, I noted one of the signatories listed his name as:
Charles Carroll of Carrollton
From now on I would like to be referenced as TSO of TSOville.
(If not, my mouth will hang open a minute or two, as TSO down in TSOville will cry, “Boo Hoo.”)
Category: Politics
Jack says to google annotated declaration of independence – there are several goods ones. I did a quick googely and found a few.
John Adams defense of British soldiers, regarding the 1770 Boston Massacre.
Alas, I did that susan, and one had a broken link, and the other had links to every one of the grievances but that one.
Do your own damn research! Just because you have a voice on a blog doesn’t give you the right to go around asking other people to do your work.
Oh wait. Uh sorry about that. Wrong site.
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Not yet. Now that I reached level 70 I am going to work on bringing all of my other skills up to speed.
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Other than the staff meeting, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?
Ahh, an easy question for the military attorney’s out there.
What that section is referring to is the Administration of Justice act (1774). That act allowed for the removal of any trial to England and stated that any witnesses (Victims) would have to travel on thier own dime to testify. This was also known as the Murder Act.
For more info see:
http://www.usconstitution.net/adminjustact.html
JAG
What JAG said. The Murder Act was wryly and aptly named.
I read John Adams biography a while back and it was very interesting, he sure didn’t seem to care for Ben Franklin much. But ya, what Tim and JAG said…..
Charles Carroll of Carrollton was the only signer to do so including his address. I am a descendant of him, not that it gets me into any parties or anything, just learned it as I was growing up. My Great grandfather didn’t like being compared to him and changed the spelling of my surname, and tried to get the family to erase that part of our history. Great grandpa must have been a liberal, thinking that “just change the facts and the deed is undone,,,,,,,,,,,,,”.
Nuf Sed
Agreed with the above. British law allowed soldiers to be tried in England for a crime committed in the Colonies.
Related question- I will consent to letting TSO lay claim to TSO-ville, as long as I get to pronounce it with a soft T, so it comes out to SO of SO-ville.
Don’t know if this will help or not, but it’s a resource;
http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php&title=2098
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