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| December 18, 2024

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Well, the biggest item has to be that Trump’s suit against George Stephanopoulus settled without a trial, and ABC got socked with a cool $15 million which goes to the Trump Library (if and when it gets built. Can Don read?)

Trump filed a defamation suit against Stephanopoulos after he asserted that Trump was found “liable for rape” in a civil case during a contentious interview with Rep. Nancy Mace, R-S.C., last March.

After playing a clip of Mace discussing being a victim of rape, Stephanopoulos asked her, “How do you square your endorsement of Donald Trump with the testimony we just saw?”

“You’ve endorsed Donald Trump for president. Judges and two separate juries have found him liable for rape and for defaming the victim of that rape,” Stephanopoulos said, alluding to the legal victory by Trump accuser E. Jean Carroll.

Stephanopoulos repeated that claim ten times during his spat with Mace, despite the fact that a jury actually determined Trump was liable for “sexual abuse,” which has a distinct definition under New York law.

Everything sexual ain’t rape, George, and describing it as such on a recorded national ‘cast qualifies as dumb…15 million times.Fox

 

Anyone remember Kyle Mullen? He is the BUD/S candidate who died in training in 2022. Big Navy was going to clean house on that one… from here, looked like they took issue with how the school was being run and were going to prosecute those involved. But…

The Navy had set out to hold four officers accountable for Mullen’s death, as well as fix a deeply problematic culture that was revealed by a scathing investigation. But the end of the two boards of inquiry means that, more than two years later, no one will face any serious disciplinary action over the incident.

A Navy spokesman said that, “following the investigations into the oversight and management of BUD/s Class 352 and the surrounding circumstances of the death of Seaman Mullen, the Navy pursued administrative actions for accountability,” but noted that “the process for determining those actions has concluded.”

Investigators said they found that the staff was overzealous and ran largely unchecked, while students were so determined to pass that they would either lie to doctors or turn to doping.

That investigation also focused on Geary (Capt. Brad Geary, the school commander – ed.)and his leadership since he had been made aware of problems with the program that were leading to more recruits than usual being dropped from the course.

After the investigation was made public, the Navy decided to hold the two medical officers — Ramey and an unnamed sailor who was the medical duty officer the night of Mullen’s death — as well as Geary and his boss, Capt. Brian Drechsler, accountable by taking them to Admiral’s Mast.

Seems Drechsler was acquitted of all charges, and the unnamed medical officer was recommended for a letter of censure. Both since honorably retired from service.

However, Geary and Ramey dug in and refused to go to mast, with Geary’s lawyer telling Military.com in August that they felt they wouldn’t get a fair hearing.

In a letter shared with Military.com, Geary and his lawyer told the commander of Naval Special Warfare in December 2023 that they refused the mast because they had a “strong reason to believe a guilty verdict has been predetermined.”Military.com

I may be misinterpreting this, but it sounds like the Navy was going with nice low-profile confidential Captain’s Masts (equivalent to enlisted Article 15s in other services) but the officers concerned wanted everything out in the open – and the Navy doesn’t want the exposure. Makes my antennae pop right up, don’t yours?

“students were so determined to pass that they would either lie to doctors or turn to doping” – not entirely a good thing, but abstractly, isn’t that the kind of attitude we WANT in special ops folks? Neither Navy or spec ops, so more knowledgeable folks than I should chime in.

Category: "Your Tax Dollars At Work", Navy, Training Incidents

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Sapper3307

The amount banned of drugs, PEDS found in the dead student’s car most likely caused his heart to over twice the normal size.

MIRanger

I think it will be good for all of the Special Operations community to get this out in the open. The community as a whole has a problem with substance abuse, legal, quasi-legal, and illegal. Just look at all the news stories out of Fort Liberty (formerly known as Bragg). Those are just the ones that bubble up to the surface and can’t be hushed over.
Those guys see and do a lot of $h!t. They need good mandatory counselling after every event, to help them put it in perspective, and understand how to deal with the reality. They are insular because getting normal people to understand what you deal with is often times not possible. Truth is definitely stranger than fiction.

Blaster

It’s FT Bragg! It’ll always be FT Bragg!

😉😉

😁😁

Anonymous

Fayettenam!

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KoB

No evidence of Trump forcing his attentions on someone, yet the persecution continued. Plenty of evidence of Epstein clients forcing themselves on multiple persons, yet no one has been persecuted. Odd, that, huh.

Take the broomstick off of the mast, Big Navy; raise up the rug and sweep this all out into the open. The truth shall set thee free.

rgr769

The only evidence was the vague, incredible testimony of that homely, looney woman, who couldn’t specify a year or month in which the alleged assault occurred. She had no proof she had even ever met Trump. At least Whoremy Daniels could produce a picture taken with Trump.

HT3

From a non-operator perspective: I have to call into question things above strong coffee/energy drinks or ripping a smelling salt or two to get you through SPECOPS training.
If you’re doping to get through BUDs or similar training, doesn’t that mean you need to maintain your body in similar fashion when you’re operational. I would have to have our people get hurt/missions fail because a team member couldn’t “gear up” in the field.

JBUSMC

Lying to doctors…yes
Drugs….hell no. As stated above, nothing stronger than coffee.

Blaster

Or Red
Bull!😉

Fyrfighter

Rip-It..

jeff LPH 3 63-66

Looks like President Trump out Trumped the A-Hole georgie boy…..

We had a Navy Seal come onboard the LPH 3 and were looking for Sailors to join up. This was during the early days. was in 1964 when he came aboard

Peter the Bubblehead

In 1998, while deployed to the Persian Gulf, we had the members of Seal Team 8 – Echo Platoon come aboard my submarine. As far as we were aware they were there for training purposes (who knows what they were actually doing during the several hours each day they were away from the boat?). While they did not generally mingle excessively with the crew, there were a few who talked about the basics of what they did and at least one of our cooks was inspired to go to Navy Diver school as a result and qualify as a diver. That qualification helped him get assigned duty to the USS Constitution after his first sea tour ended.

Deckie

Sounds like the former SEALS we had pulling security detail on cargo ships in the Mideast. They talked down just about everything about their exploits — unlike the phonies busted here.

They would answer whatever you asked about training and crazy/interesting experiences they had. Great guys all the way around but very unlike their unfortunate depiction in movies.

Forest Bondurant

I’m curious how his lawsuit against CBS “60 Minutes” will play out.

I hope he wins that one, too.

The media has gone unchecked for far too long. Producers and journalists need to be put on notice when they lie, misrepresent facts, or defame the character of others, there will be repercussions for doing so.

Dennis - not chevy

Have you ever noticed the what I call the “M-grunts” “journalists” make when the interviewing someone? You’ll hear them when the person being interviewed will saying something and the interviewer will be making “M – HM – M” sounds. As it was explained to me by someone in the “journalism” business, it is the interviewer trying to get a word in so the interviewer may may his or her point.

Now, pardon me, but I thought the point was to be made by the interviewed not the interviewer.

The only answer I can think of is the interviewers have such partial views of the world; the interviewers think they’re the smartest ones in the room.

The check is in the mail, I’ll respect you in the morning; and I’m an impartial journalist must be the three most common lies told.

Jimbojszz

Never met any seals. I guarded a pj alert compound on a runway overseas a few times. They kept to them selves pretty much. I remember during basic the pj came around looking for recruits. They explained the qualifications to try out. All sounded good till they came to swimming requirements. I said screw that I’m not a fish.

KoB

Speaking of court stuff…when is this skrunt going?

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JustALurkinAround

To paraphrase Ned Beatty from Rudy, this meme is the most beautiful sight these eyes have ever seen.

Thanks for sharing, King!

KoB

This one is kinda purty, too….

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Fyrfighter

Don’t forget Fauci, Nanny Legosi, Schiff for brains, et al…

KoB

Fyr, I’d have to use a 55 gallon drum of keyboard ink to type all of the names of those that should be “…hanged by the neck until dead.” (ht2 Judge Roy Bean)

Mark L.

Trump: Hillary, you’re going to jail.

Hillary: Motherfucker, do you know who I am? I snap my fingers and you’re dead.

Trump: Have a nice day!

Anonymous

And there’s Hunter…

th-19
KoB

Who else wants to see this mofo do the perp walk?

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Fyrfighter

One can dream, can’t one??

Blaster

Wasn’t he part of Pelosi’s security team?

KoB

Indeed he was, Blaster…and indeed he has been “protected” since the early 2000s. I posted this linky on the WOT late Sunday…

https://www.theblaze.com/news/exclusive-officer-who-killed-ashli-babbitt-abandoned-us-capitol-post-for-card-game-lied-to-investigators-about-it-source-says

Fyrfighter

Didn’t Earn It… is anyone actually surprised?

Anonymous

F* him then– as if shooting unarmed woman through a door because he was “afraid for his life” wasn’t loser enough.

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rgr769

He also was incompetent in his firearms handling and left his service pistol in the shitter, unsecured.

Fyrfighter

But he checked at least one box…

Deckie

I hope Pam Bondi cooks his ass in 2025. He needs to pay — big time. Incompetent scumbag and murderer… and the dems covered for him…

Mark L.

I don’t know why people give a shit about the Jan 6th people. They failed in their mission to keep Trump in office and have spent the rest of their days whining like pussies on Twitter. Maybe if they had succeeded, they would have more of a leg to stand on. Plus, they were all antifa so let them rot in jail.

SFC D

Are you here to stir the pot? Are you antifa, here to create havoc? Try harder. Others before you have set the bar very high.

Mark L.

It’s amazing how much you people support a group of morons who failed in their only mission to keep Trump in office. They should have been acting as if their freedom depended on their success in keeping Trump in power. They didn’t.

SFC D

I don’t support any group that would storm the White House. For any reason. Even if I agree with the principle behind it, it’s wrong.

Mark L.

They didn’t storm the White House, they stormed the Capitol building, which houses the Senate and Congress. They all would have been shot to death immediately if they tried to storm the White House.

SFC D

You are correct, my mistake. Here, let me fix it.

I don’t support any group that would storm a federal building for any reason”.

Now, you can explain to me exactly how storming the capitol would have kept Trump in power. Take your time, I’ll wait.

Jimbojszz

Lars is that you?

Forest Bondurant

I think it’s Lars, except he’s on his meds.

SgtM

No not Lars. There was no empirical evidence being touted around.

11B-Mailclerk

Fred the Fed. Perhaps an unpaid amateur.

Fishing for “insurrectionists” high-fiving him.

And smells of sockpupet.

Skivvy Stacker

One of the things I learned as a Fugitive Recovery Agent was that you have to read the warrant VERY carefully, and not just go by the “Black Letter Law”, but also by the “Case Law”, and even look into the “Jury Instructions” of your state to understand what is meant by the word “IS”.

Anonymous

Left/libtards:
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rgr769

In Ranger School, anyway in my class, we had people in the second and third phase that would decline to go to sick call because they were afraid they would be recycled. No one wanted to recycle and have to repeat a phase of the course. One guy in my platoon had the respiratory crud at the mountain phase and was ordered to see the doc in Dahlonega (Mountain Phase), the doc noticed he was limping and had his ankle x-rayed. He had a fractured ankle and was bounced from our class. He was a NG LT and was not recycled. He had completed most of the mountain training with a fractured ankle.

Mark L.

A letter of censure is worthless unless it’s filed in a Sailors’ permanent record, and I’m assuming these weren’t.

11B-Mailclerk

Double secret memo?