Pols and guns – update

| March 27, 2024

Couple of states hitting the news, Virginia and Colorado.

Little background – in the most recent major gun case before the Supremes (Diana Ross not included) the Court ruled that gun cases should be decided using historical precedent rather than Democrat feewings or what someone thought the law ought to be in light of schools shootings, astrology, and what-all. So many precedent-less cases have been reversed… but the Court also said states can employ historic precedent to enact restrictions, and the subject-dictating  Democrats have been twisting themselves into knots trying to make carry and self defense far more onerous than before. Let’s take a look at Virginia:

Virginia governor Youngkin actually gets bonus points for the day.

“I swore an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States of America and the Constitution of Virginia, and that absolutely includes protecting the right of law-abiding Virginians to keep and bear arms,” said Governor Glenn Youngkin. “I am pleased to sign four public safety bills which are commonsense reforms with significant bipartisan support from the General Assembly, and offer recommendations to several bills which, if adopted, will make it harder for criminals to use guns in the commission of a violent act.” VA Governor’s site

As Youngkin said, the bills he vetoed either duplicated Federal law or would have done nothing to actually penalize lawbreakers and would infringe on citizens rights unnecessarily. Good day for you, Youngkin.

And then we get to the Former Free State of Colorado, the best example of Californication I know of.

Once they could no longer require a “special need” before allowing residents to carry guns in public for self-defense, politicians in those states worried that residents would start exercising that right. Deeming that outcome intolerable, legislators banned guns from long lists of “sensitive” locations, making it highly impractical for people to legally carry guns outside their homes even after obtaining the requisite license.

Senate Bill 24-131, introduced last month, would ban guns from “sensitive places” such as parks, playgrounds, recreation facilities, zoos, museums, libraries, “public gathering[s],” medical facilities, banks, stadiums, amusement parks, bars, pot shops, college campuses, and houses of worship (without “express permission”).

But there’s a twist:

Notably, the bill applies to “adjacent parking areas” as well as the “sensitive” locations themselves. It makes an exception for “firearms stored in locked containers in vehicles.” But on its face, that seems to mean a carry permit holder who visits, say, a bar, a museum, or a government office would already be violating the law when he pulls into the parking lot unless he had previously locked up his gun, which he would have to do in a location that is not deemed “sensitive.”

Kopel describes the bill as “ridiculously overbroad.” For example, he says, “it bans licensed carry from the entire parking lot of a shopping mall” if the mall contains a single “tavern” or “one small branch bank.” He also notes that “a woman who goes jogging or walking in parks in early mornings would be prevented from defending herself.”Reason.com

Bad enough that these lists of “sensitive spots” are exploding, and that typically the laws can be enforced while appeals wend their glacial way through the courts.  Having a right to self-defense isn’t much of a right when the places they define are half the damn landscape.

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Looks like all those folks that left California because it became untenable, brought along all their left leaning ideas and failed to make the connection as to why California became untenable!

James Haltom

I was stationed in Denver back in the sane days (70s). I use to go to a bar in Arvada that had a check your gun policy upon entering. I thought cool. By my second trip in the mid 90s you could see the Californication. With this last “Who gets on the ballot” trick. I feel sorry for the conservatives out there.

President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

I see VA Gov Youngkin using the term “commonsense reforms” in a way that makes, well, common sense.
Now waiting for DildoCrat LibTard heads to go ‘splody in 5……4……3……2……1…..


“…shall not be infringed…” Sounds pretty simple and straight forward to me.


Written in a time when ink was expensive. Words were chosen more carefully to convey what they actually meant to say.


Some people still think you can read into that statement.
As if the founding fathers didn’t really mean what they said.
They were just kidding.

BlueCord Dad

I think you may have to revise your opinion…


Well, left/libtard progressives are willfully stupid in order to get their way:
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More from California:

California Senate Bill 1160 (SB 1160), introduced by Senator Anthony J. Portantino on February 14, 2024, aims to address firearm regulations. Here are the key points of the bill:

  • Annual Registration of Firearms:SB 1160 requires every firearm in the state (except those specifically exempted) to be annually registered with the California Department of Justice.
  • Registrants must pay an annual fee, which will be deposited into a special fund for administering and enforcing the firearm registry.
  • The Department of Justice will establish and maintain a system for the annual registration of firearms and make registration information available to other law enforcement agencies.
  • Reasonable efforts will be made to notify firearms dealers, owners, and the general public regarding registration requirements.
  • Importantly, registration does not serve as evidence that the registrant is lawfully permitted to own or possess the firearm or that they are the lawful owner of the firearm.
  • The bill also prohibits the use of certain federal records in establishing or enforcing the registry.
  • Possession of Unregistered Firearms:SB 1160 makes possession of an unregistered firearm an infraction, punishable by law.
  • This new infraction creates a state-mandated local program.
  • Reimbursement:The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the state.
  • However, this bill specifies that no reimbursement is required for a specified reason.

In summary, SB 1160 focuses on firearm registration, ensuring compliance, and maintaining accurate records while emphasizing that registration alone does not imply lawful ownership or permission to possess the firearm.


I’m not aware of any historical precedent for annual registration of privately owned firearms, but there can be only one reason for the idea of universal registration. Confiscation.


Confiscation is one reason. Criminalization is another. Most gun owners will abide by the law and register their firearms annually. When the state decides to add to the list of guns they deem illegal to privately own, they’ll send their specially trained and equipped gun seizure teams of local, state, and federal authorities. You know the ATF is just aching to get in on the “fun”, in hopes of enforcing a national ban one day soon. Cali Chris will be chilling in his home with the registered CA compliant rifle locked up in a responsible manner when CHP, LAPD, ATF, and FBI agents conduct their raid at 0300 because he didn’t turn in his now-illegal firearm within 24 hours of the latest gun control law.

As for the infraction garnered by failing to register, it appears that a $1k fine is proposed. I imagine the fine will be for each individual unregistered firearm. So, Sacramento Sue has a modest collection of eight CA compliant guns, with about $4k invested. The state finds out and seizes her unregistered guns, imposing a fine of $8k and putting her out a total of $12k for personal property she had legally purchased and owned.


What’s interesting though is that while the ordinary law-abiding citizen would be required to disclose to the state great-grandpa’s old lever action .33 Winchester that has been in the family for over a century, the bad guys (felons) who are prohibited from owning firearms are exempt from disclosing ANY firearms in their possession because of self-incrimination. See Haynes v. US, 390 US 85 (1968).

The NFA of 1934 required the registration of certain types of firearms. Miles Edward Haynes was a convicted felon who was charged with failing to register a firearm under the Act. Haynes argued that, because he was a convicted felon and thus prohibited from owning a firearm, requiring him to register any firearms in his possession was requiring him to make an open admission to the government that he was in violation of the law, which was essentially a violation of his right not to incriminate himself.

In a 7-1 decision, the Court ruled in 1968 in favor of Haynes. (Thurgood Marshall didn’t participate in the decision).


Is there an addendum or appendix where Joe TaxPayer can tell the Commiefornia ‘guh’ment’ to “Get Fucked”?


If Canada is any kind of reliable example, they tried this some years ago and were shocked! shocked! I tell you, that compliance was not very good, estimated at 10-30% if IRC.


Washington Governor Jay Inslee (D) just signed into law a requirement that gun dealers must run background checkes yearly on all employees, have alarm systems and audio and video of ALL their store 24 hours a day and maintain recordings for two years. Estimated to cost each over $1 million annually for that last part.


This is partly an effort to reduce the number of FFL holders in the state who do not have a brick-and-mortar store. Some cities in other states have done the same thing. The fellow who is a gun collector as a hobby and has an FFL will not be financially inclined to keep his FFL.


Looks like the big red “C” in their flag stands for communist. Seems like the Colorado legislature wants its law-abiding citizens to be unarmed wherever they go. A female jogging on a trail in a park will be a safe target for a rapist/murderer, even if she has a carry permit. Her gun will have to be locked in a container in her car. Good job CommieRado!


Destroy you comunity, vote Democrat!
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pookysgirl, WC wife

Don’t forget the actual wildlife that lives around trails in Colorado. With the idiots trying to re-introduce wolves, it’s going to be even more dangerous.


Not trying, already done.. in the 90’s this was still a decently red state, the massive influx of californians and illegals has turned it deep blue.. a number of state legislators were elected by the morons in their districts for no reason other than they lost a loved one to some sort of violent crime. some of them are mouth breathers with barely room temp IQ’s yet they are allowed to dictate stupid shit like this to us… Counting the days till I can retire and move out of this communist utopia


Wolves… didn’t they ever read Little Red Riding Hood?
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That is all.


Just had about the most demoralizing day of my life. The missus and I met the town building inspector and let’s say he’s a “chapter and verse” kinda guy.

I specifically asked if continuing could be criminal in nature, because I know a cease & desist CAN be contempt of court after a ‘stop work ‘order” has been issued, which he brought up. He shrugged his tyrannical little-man shoulders, implying that it was with no human emotion behind those lizard eyes.

I got it.
Loud and clear.

My life could get interesting here shortly. If it turns into a goat rope I’ve a plan to ‘monetize’ it. Maybe change the world a little… dunno.

(will share the social medias and a general outline on the op, should the time come)

Mockery is the best weapon against ….:


WSB! (Welcome South, Brother) All kinds of room @ Firebase Magnolia. I’ll even make that Hot Missus of yorn a sammich. We don’t need no steenkin’ building inspector in my little ‘ville.


Thanks for the hospitality and huntin’ over that there bait, Brother Reb.

She might force me to head for less authoritarian pastures soon. As ticked as I was she was triple. The Granite Live Free or Die State and The Peach State were mentioned for fallbacks.

Hit me, hurt me, abuse me. Fine, tax, and extort me.

Upset the wife?

Hell bubbles up from depths I never knowed, especially after the work she’s put in. F’king keeper, that one.


I’ll leave the light on for ya…

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