Wagner Mercs March on Moscow
Wagner Group Mercenary
Yevgeny Prigozhin’s Wagner Group has been described as private military company, a Russian proxy force, or a mercenary army for hire- pays your money and takes your point of view.
According to White House spox John Kirby, the Wagner Group has an estimated 50,000 personnel inside Ukraine — around 10,000 contractors and 40,000 convicts from Russian prisons. Consider the source.
Prigozhin has in the past accused Russia’s military leadership of incompetence in Ukraine, but on Friday he publicly accused them of striking his forces.
Prigozhin’s forces have since entered Rostov, a city in the south of Russia. Prigozhin denied it is an armed rebellion but calls it “a march of justice.”
Wagner Rebels ‘Will Answer’ For Betrayal Says Putin as Rostov Occupied, Moscow Locked Down
OLIVER JJ LANE
President Vladimir Putin has now addressed the Russian nation by television, vowing “punishment” hours after Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin declared he was withdrawing his troops from Ukraine and marching his mercenary army to Moscow.
An “armed rebellion” against Moscow is treason and betrayal, and a threat to the Russian state which the government will “react harshly” to with “inevitable punishment, Vladimir Putin said in a televised address on Saturday morning. He also stated that “antiterrorist measures” were now in place in Moscow itself.
Warlord Yevgeny Prigozhin, the commander of the Wagner Private Military Company which is engaged around the world but particularly in Ukraine, where it had fought some of the toughest battles against Ukrainian defenders on behalf of Putin, has said he is taking his army to Moscow but insists it is not a coup.
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Per an intelligence digest by Britain’s Ministry of Defence (sic) this morning, the Wagner Mercenaries are proceeding towards Russia without meeting resistance and have occupied Rostov-on-Don, the “HQ which runs Russia’s military operations in Ukraine”.
Vlad’s threats ring a bit hollow, considering the rolling disaster his Ukraine invasion has become. I can’t see him slipping quietly out the back door to his Swiss chalet, either. Stand by.
Category: International Affairs, Russia, Ukraine
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Edited to protect PII. If you’re trying to trigger my acronym OCD work on it.
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This is what happens when you have soldiers dedicated to money and not to the cause.
Time to give Progozhin more money or a bullet to the back of the head.
He wants the chair at the head of the long table.
Well, don’t they all there…
Death race 2023, There can be only one.
Putin’s Air Force One just left Moscow heading northwest.
Belarus’s boss man just fled to Turkey.
Sh*t’s happening…
Roads blocked in Moscow oblast… gleefully reported by Ukrainians:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/roads-being-blocked-moscow-oblast-085825829.html
Putin skips Moscow…
https://www.yahoo.com/news/putins-plane-reportedly-departs-moscow-133300722.html
Yes, yes strategic redeployment for retrograde operations.
Wagner has videos of them shooting down helicopters on the road to Moscow posted on their channel.
And it was at this moment that Vladimir Putin realized that he had f***** up.
He’s pissed-off though:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-vows-revenge-for-betrayal-by-his-former-ally-prigozhin-163208431.html
And Prizgorin pulls his boys back and moves to Belaryus. WTF?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-mercenary-chief-called-rebellion-051225518.html
This is what happens when you only have three lieutenants and can only give one a top block.
Russia is bombing its own airport fuel tanks to deny Wagner its use, and a coffee stop on the way North.
Prizgorin turns back… apparently, there’s some deal:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-mutinous-russian-mercenary-boss-180136576.html
A trade for Shoigu’s fat head?
U.S citizenship?
Gets to hang out in Belarus or something.
False flag operation
I wouldn’t believe any of this BS
I think this is exactly what it looks like. You should watch some of the videos. It would be the ultimate deep fake.
Prigozhin has been bitching non-stop about The Russian army for the last 6 months. He has his own online channel and goes into great detail about how stupid they are.
It was only a matter of time before they took him out. I bet he went to Rostov to try to find evidence of the attack. If he finds any it will be right on that channel.
If the attack on his troops turns out to be a false flag, whoever dreamed that up, needs to be promoted immediately because that is a pure stroke of genuis.
Replied to the wrong post.
It is real.
Bridges and roads to Moscow are being blocked.
Russian aircraft are being shot down in Russia. Supply depots between Wagner and Moscow are being destroyed to prevent Wagner refueling.
And there have been rocket strike on areas occupied by Wagner troops, including Russian urban areas.
It is absurd to think this is a false flag.
The theory that it s a false flag is completely is contrary to the overwhelming evidence being released by citizens all over the avenues of approach to Moscow. Live feeds. Aircraft being shot down. Fuel depots on fire.
It is weird to think this if a false flag.
It is like you can’t get you head around the idea of anyone challenging Putin. And rather just believe he is playing 5D chess.
So this situation is like zika, but forrealforreal.
Roger that, hoss.
2 weeks to flatten Hitlers-known-as-pootin!
You sure do know a lot about a lot. It just hit the news yesterday, and you already have all the facts! You’re awesome!
I don’t have all the facts. But it is clear this is not a false flag operation.
Are you watching The 700 Club?
You are, aren’t ya?
“I don’t have all the facts.”
Should’ve stopped right there.
From what I read from you old timers, he seems to suffer from “premature prognostication”. Sadly, unlike other disfunctions, there is no known cure. Fortunately, although embarrassing (to normal folks) it is not fatal.
He’s also a “sexual intellectual”. In plain English, a fucking know-it-all.
Or the RF/Wagner forces:
A) have had enough and this is cover for retrograde op
B) or they know what is coming…
1) powerplant ‘oops’
2)things are gong to get a little WMD-y up in that b*tch
C) want to ‘save face’ displacing certain Generals that have been less than aligned with ‘the cause’
Anyway you cut this turd, it doth stink and I trust absolutely fucking NONE of this.
Even if taken at face value it is hard to see a positive outcome, so maybe less clapping like trained seals and more anal-cysts is called for, huh champ?
It doesn’t get much deeper cover than shooting down three Russian helicopters.
Well, as a senior member in goid standing with The Party, he has access to information that we mere peasants are not privileged to know.
Must be.
I’d say we all are able to wrap our heads around the idea of someone challenging Putin. It’s still very surprising to see someone with the balls to actually do it.
You guys have seen how Commissar and I have argued against each other in the past. However, on this one topic, I agree with him that this is no false flag operation.
When you have Russian military units attacking Wagner units, and when there is a track record of what happens to people who criticize Putler, you know that Prigozhin’s days are numbered, so is that of those in Wagner.
Prigozhin also understands the nuances of what happens in Russia, corruption, thuggery, etc.
I’m hearing banging noises.
Oddly my neighbor next door hears voices
And banging sounds too it end with a big thud
“Whose that knocking” by the Genies 1959 on the Shad record label
Great sax solo in there.
https://youtu.be/-iNJqwNwFgA
https://youtu.be/Gz5mI6tqm_Q
A good new video with location’s and #s of helicopters shot down today.
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25K Troops? Good luck with that.
It’s not just the troops. They have tanks, armored vehicles, air defense missiles all kinds of s***. Lots of combat experience and highly motivated. Countries have fallen with less troops.
Prigozhin is actually quite popular. People like his straight talk and jamming it in the eye at Moscow. He Is almost a Trump like figure except he knows what he’s doing with the military.
Whatever the Russian polls might say the war is super unpopular and he has all but promised to end it.
Remember, the chances of your house cat killing you is very low, but never zero.
The furry little bastard will just wait for you to die so he can eat you.
True… some are nicer than others though:
How many containers of canned sunshine does he have? Best I can tell, despite the RF loses, pootin still has a fairly large number of front line troops that have been held in reserve. Tanks, armored vehicles, and all kinds of s*** are just targets. And let’s just say that pootin is out of disposable cannon fodder and he gets concerned that the Wagner boys are getting too close? Desperate times call for desperate measures and pootin has an assload of tactical canned sunshine. Can Wagner reply in kind? Can he supply his “army” with captured or turned over to him supplies? Repair parts for his vehicles (read targets)?
Bobby Lee (one of the finest Military Minds EVAH) had some highly motivated combat experienced troops. How’d that work out for him? Sitting Bull? Chief Joseph? This list goes on.
Quantity has a quality of its own.
Prigozhin Was left with no choice.
He is a psychopath and a thug, but also a survivor.
The strife between his forces and the Ministry of Defense has been boiling for months. Longer.
And the MoD gave Prigozhin the ultimatum that he either had to disband Wagner or integrate it within the Russian military.
When Putin seemed to let the ultimatum stand Prigozhin knew he was doomed if he didn’t act decisively. Once Wagner was under MoD control Prigozhin would be subordinate to Shoigu and would not last long.
It is clear MoD did launch a missile attack on the Wagner rear headquarters area. It was likely an attempt to decapitate Wagner leadership since Wagner had made no efforts to integrate before the looming deadline.
I don’t think Prigozhin intended to depose Putin. He intended to take control of the Ministry of Defense, replace Shoigu, and leave Putin with no option but to accept that.
However, the likely reason the MoD was given the go ahead to force an ultimatum on Prigozhin was because Putin had already determined Prigozhin and Wagner had become an unacceptable threat to his regime.
When Prigozhin captured Rostov-on-don he captured supplies and equipment, and essentially severed Shoigu’s command and control over the Ukraine front.
However, Shoigu escaped. Progozhin hoped to decapitate the MoD command and when that failed his plan failed.
He tried to still negotiate with Putin to accept Progozhin as having command over the Ukrainian front and Russian ground forces.
When Putin backed Shoigu it was a death sentence for Progozhin and left Progozhin with no choice but to march on Moscow.
Since the Russian government is exceedingly centralized in Moscow, whoever controls Moscow controls Russia.
But Progozhin would need to capture it quickly.
Progozhin’s 25,000 troops are not enough to capture Moscow without the help of Russian troops.
And given how fast Wagner is advancing on Russia it does appear at least some of RussIa’s military is aligning themselves with Wagner, or at least stepping aside and letting Wagner advance.
Putin is fortifying Moscow. Blocking bridges and key avenues of approach with disabled dump trucks filled with sand, and deploying troops and mines.
However, Putin’s private plane left Moscow and flew to St, Petersburg. Or at least was on vector to St Petersburg before radar lost it and its tracker was shut off.
Lukeshenko has apparently fled to Turkey. So Putin has likely lost Belorussia as an ally. Not that Lukeshenko was worth a shit other than as an additional border to support the Ukraine offensive.
Lukashenko and family I’m hearing. Thanks for the updates.
“But Progozhin would need to capture it quickly.“
Capturing it is one thing. Holding on to it is quite another matter.
Twitter is really the only good source to see what is happening on the ground in Russia right now.
But it is mostly noise.
This Reddit sub seems to upload combat footage coming out of Russia as soon as it starts trending on Twitter.
And it is more convenient than trying to navigate through the Twitter noise.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage
Reddit you say? The paragon of free speech and rational discourse!
If I wanted NAT0/CIA/MIC talking points I’ll go straight to Jamie Dimon’s dick. Less shame in that than being caught on reddit.
As much as a regime change in RF should worry anyone who doesn’t like to glow in the dark to the nth…
I have a much bigger fear than changing one idiot for another idiot: Poland.
Even if the RF appears to be implosioning they can lash out at strikes against the motherland, real or not. This would play into that sense of patriotism that has stopped all sorts of onslaughts as KoB mentioned.
Poland has been chomping at the bit to get themselves involved with the much-like-civil-war in UKR/RF. I don’t trust the politicians in Poland right now to keep from kicking RF/BRU. Their perceived enemies are down, but not out by a loooong stretch.
Whatever happens (and I have zero fucks to give about who runs this/these circus(es)) will be destabilizing and a lot of people will be dragged out into the streets and shot.
I feel bad about the innocents, both killed and lost.
So, I guess now we have to send this bunch billions of taxpayer dollars too. Right? I mean – same cause and all.
The Ukraine war has been a bargain for US security.
We spent trillions on readiness for decades over the threat of potential war with the Soviet Union and later Russia.
And Putin has been a menace to US interests. Our international and domestic security interests. A threat to our political stability and democratic institutions. Even directly soliciting economic allies to accelerate the collapse of the US dollar.
In two short years the war in Ukraine degraded Russia from a perceived near peer threat to an utterly collapsed regime with one of the most fractured and degraded militaries among all industrial societies.
It will take Russia at least two decades to recover from the consequences of the Ukraine war and Russia will likely not be a near peer again.
Dollar for dollar the aid to Ukraine has been the best money the US has spent on national security in a more than a half a century.
An absolute bargain.
Nobody’s really taken The Russian military seriously in about 30 years. The problem was and remains their strategic forces. Air Force bombers, submarines, nuclear etc. That stuff remains unaffected.
There is no dollar for dollar! Ukraine is and has been a huge money laundering scheme for American and Ukrainian politicians. I doubt even a quarter of the billions went to the people or the troops on the ground.
Hate Trump all you want, but Putin didn’t act until he felt safe to do so. We have all witnessed the Clintons cozy up to him, Obama cozy up to him and Biden play both ends against the middle with Russia and Ukraine. Not a word was said. Then HRC concocts the fake Russian hoax, it’s proven to be fake, and Trump is still blamed for being BFFs with Putin.
This Billions of dollars scheme is pure BS. Taxpayer money being laundered and shifted to politicians private bank accounts, right in our faces and they laugh at us. Meanwhile, our infrastructure is crumbling. i.e. I-95, Detroit water, southern border, Defense Spending cuts, etc. etc.
Let me say this again, I was not a Trump supporter until after he became POTUS and I witnessed his policies in action that were wins for THE PEOPLE of this country. When he could act and wasn’t held back by his own party that had control both sides of congress. I blame the Democrats for most of our mess, but I also blame a good 85-90% of the republicans too! Guess what those democrats and republicans are doing,,,,,????? Making personal financial gains off of those billions of dollars being sent to Ukraine.
To consistently flaunt education and knowledge superior to all others, it seems very gullible to believe this anything other than allowing taxpayer money to find its way into the bank accounts of crooked politicians.
I was thinking along the same lines. I also wonder if Wagner Group are setting up a Swiss Bank Account. The Diplomatic experts are supposed to resolve these war’s not create them. Follow the money. I don’t know if the 6.2 Billion from the Pentagon is accurate. If it is Body Bags will be plentiful.
It’s a GD shame! It makes me wonder how long the politicos will keep pushing the envelope! There will eventually be a reckoning. I fear for my children and (hopefully, one day,) grandchildren. I’m on the back end of this life, and I’ve (we! The wife and I) have done our best to set them up, but we’re watching our beloved nation turn into a third world $h17 hole, in order to keep from hurting feelings of those that contribute 0% to anything. I hope and pray that we can right our course without bloodshed.
I keep telling myself that at some point, common sense has to take over. PLEASE, PLEASE, common sense take over!!!
Vladimir z Putin has issued every resident of Moscow an entrenching tool to fight off the invaders.
Arguably more combat effective than sledgehammers.
Arguably, Hack Stone was making a joke, not discussing defense tactics.
Arguably so was Lars.
*grin*
Thank you.
It is exhausting to have every post I make met with nonsense and downvotes.
You are one of the few legitimately reasonable people here. Despite our political differences.
You wouldn’t know ‘legitimately reasonable’ if it struggle snuggled you in the dorkhole.
Correct- I’d say extremely reasonable.
Um, (see below)?
(jk, obv)
I appreciate you keeping some folks ’round these parts!
We can safely assume that any comment posted by Hack Stone is an attempt at humor. And Hack Stone’s humor is like COVID, not everyone gets it.
Can someone post the video of our Stolen Valor Hero who made the video of him training Russian troops on using an entrenching tool against multiple assailants?
Only for you, Hack.
John Giduck handling that shovel has me feelin’ some type of way.
I miss him… https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=30958
Edit – From his linkedin:
Nice! Dude finds work! 58 days to glory.
I got the joke. You all didn’t seem to get my joke.
Any joke you have to explain ain’t a joke.
https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/17084-putin-s-chef-sends-bloody-sledgehammer-to-eu-parliament
Look up “Prigozhin and sledgehammer.”
Much better attitudinal alignment than sending well-hydrated Marines to the brig, no?
Worked for Stalin.
A Casey Kasem long distance dedication. It’s fucking ponderous, man.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BZdhPRPP0oM&pp=ygUYQWwgc3Rld3J0IHJvYWQgdG8gbW9zY293
I went to bed last night early this morning and there were rumblings of some things going on or something happening and I wake up to this this morning
Will the last drunk russian (redundant) in Moscow turn off the lights
Apparently Chechen fighters have entered Rostov-on-Don in support of Putin.
The Nazis march on Moscow. I feel like this is a re-run.
It certainly isn’t as good or as large scale. In the first movie they had a cast of 1.5 million. Now it’s like almost everybody is CGI.
Hahahaha……
You are almost as funny as Hack Stone, and that’s saying a lot!
No one is as funny and insightful as Hack Stone.
Got a report, they (WPMC) turned around.
I find it strange that this whole time (minus 6ish hours of sleep) ADS has shown zero TACAMO planes up…
RF is embroiled in a coup, yet the DoD has no C2 up, just in case?
Or are they no squawking?
Very odd.
Wussed out or cynical deal?
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-mutinous-russian-mercenary-boss-180136576.html
I responded with a theoretical question on your other posting: a trade for Shoigu’s fat head?
He is popular…
Well, that might satisfy Prizgorin– Putin could deal.
Lukashenko made him a deal– probably called Putin “in a couple of months I’ll let your guys throw him out of a tall building,” too.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/lukashenko-claims-head-wagner-pmc-172436584.html
Are there any betting pools on this yet? There’s never any telling on who’s saying the truth and what’s utter bullshit anymore!
A feast of bones to be served. It remains to be seen who gets dessert.
Perhaps atvdome point they will all sit down together and settle differences, over nice hot cups of tea….
Single shot pistol and a single shot of Vodka.
Moscow was literally s******* it’s pants. They were digging huge trenches across the highway to stop the advance.
What that means is there isn’t anything between the front lines and Moscow. If the Ukrainians do break through, they could be having breakfast in the Kremlin by the next day.
https://www.businessinsider.com/video-shows-crews-tearing-up-highways-block-wagner-moscow-advance-2023-6
The real question, is “Where are all the Polish trucks currently parking?”
Ukraine has bupkis for logistics beyond “local”. Poland has its entire fleet of military trucks, and a decent civilian trucking industry.
And theirs mostly work.
Russia would likely be better served by a NATO Ukraine, thus bureaucraticly inept and unlikely to do Jack squat, than an ad-hoc alliance of former victims of the Soviets with no USA saying “whoa”.
Well, it’s over! Looks like it was a FALSE FLAG after all!
Or simply a negotiation tactic for better wages
Pretty effective, too.
“Nice country you have here. Be a shame if anything were to happen to it.”
Who knew they were Jimmy Hoffa acolytes?