The lady doth protest too much, methinks
Little Red Lying Hood (wearing Soviet pink hat) with John “War is bad for the environment” Kerry (right) and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov (left)
Five years ago if you’d said we were funding foreign biological research, I’d have thought you a conspiracy theorist. Then the Chinese unleashed (accidentally or on purpose, not sure which is worse) COVID-19 from their American-sponsored bio research lab in Wuhan. Then we learned about the other appalling research conducted with US grant money (feeding beagle puppies to sand fleas anyone?).
Now, Russia (whose grasp on the truth is really very fluid) claims the US was sponsoring chemical and biological weapons research in Ukraine. Crazy, right?
Russian troops reportedly found “documentation” showing Ukrainian scientists destroying evidence of “plague, anthrax, rabbit-fever, cholera and other lethal diseases” studied in the country’s laboratories on February 24, according to a statement from Foreign Ministry spokesman Maria Zakharova, as part of their ongoing assault on the country.
Zakharova is the other lady in the picture at the top of the article. Hmmm Anyway, if there was such documentation, it would be easy enough to upload it for the world to see, which they haven’t yet. I doubt it exists, but Ukraine would make a good place for us to do such research.
White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki (she who is far too happy to wear Soviet symbols for her Russian friends) gave an eight tweet long rebuttal that comes off a bit… over the top. I’ll copy it below for easier reading. Judge for yourself;
We took note of Russia’s false claims about alleged U.S. biological weapons labs and chemical weapons development in Ukraine. We’ve also seen Chinese officials echo these conspiracy theories.
— Jen Psaki (@PressSec) March 9, 2022
We took note of Russia’s false claims about alleged U.S. biological weapons labs and chemical weapons development in Ukraine. We’ve also seen Chinese officials echo these conspiracy theories.
This is preposterous. It’s the kind of disinformation operation we’ve seen repeatedly from the Russians over the years in Ukraine and in other countries, which have been debunked, and an example of the types of false pretexts we have been warning the Russians would invent.
The United States is in full compliance with its obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention and the Biological Weapons Convention and does not develop or possess such weapons anywhere.
It’s Russia that has a long and well-documented track record of using chemical weapons, including in attempted assassinations and poisoning of Putin’s political enemies like Alexey Navalny.
It’s Russia that continues to support the Assad regime in Syria, which has repeatedly used chemical weapons. It’s Russia that has long maintained a biological weapons program in violation of international law.
Also, Russia has a track record of accusing the West of the very violations that Russia itself is perpetrating. In December, Russia falsely accused the U.S. of deploying contractors with chemical weapons in Ukraine.
This is all an obvious ploy by Russia to try to try to justify its further premeditated, unprovoked, and unjustified attack on Ukraine.
Now that Russia has made these false claims, and China has seemingly endorsed this propaganda, we should all be on the lookout for Russia to possibly use chemical or biological weapons in Ukraine, or to create a false flag operation using them. It’s a clear pattern.
U.S. Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland confirmed in a Congressional hearing on Tuesday that “biological research facilities” were in Ukraine and feared that Russia could take control.
“Ukraine has biological research facilities which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of, so we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach,” she said.
I was told that biolabs in Ukraine was a conspiracy theory yet here we are.
What does her body language tell you?
Nervous much? pic.twitter.com/uHhpTc2xlB— Cam Sandoval ??? (@camintel45) March 8, 2022
We were willing to go to war in 1962 to prevent the emplacement of Russian nuclear missiles in Cuba. If we were in fact even just partially supporting chemical and/or bio weapons research on Russia’s doorstep, I can’t fault them for being upset about it.
I await Russian proof of their claims. Meanwhile, the Ukrainians have no trouble providing support for their claims that Russia is doing unthinkable things like bombing a children’s hospital.
Category: "Your Tax Dollars At Work", Biden, Foreign Policy, Russia, Ukraine
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If Bio warfare is prohibited the how come these labs pop up experimenting with the product????
Work harder, earn more, spend more, stop asking questions.
Be gender-confused already!
Several reasons, Jeff. Here are four; there are others:
1. Bioweapons can be as destructive as nukes (think an epidemic of a truly deadly disease like smallpox vice the Wuhan coronavirus). But they’re far easier and cheaper to produce than nukes. So they’re an attractive alternative for smaller nations that might not have a few hundred $ billion lying around to fund creation of a nuclear weapons production program.
2. States that feel seriously threatened don’t care much about international prohibitions. They’re going to do whatever they need to do to survive if they perceive they face a truly existential threat.
3. Some states simply don’t take international agreements to which they are a party very seriously. As I recall, Iraq was a signatory to the CW/BW conventions prior to the first Gulf War. They apparently had programs to develop both.
4. Research can be multipurpose (defensive and medical as well as for weapons development).
Damn.
What a fucking mess and blame game.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1501847926619971588
I ain’t rootin for Putin, but the other side has things the MSM and Washington wants hidden and the more I look, the more I don’t like. Open the books and let the truth burn to the bone!
So you are saying that just like with the Whu Flu (I know Influenza is not SARS) we may be culpable for this whole mess too?
Was that what Biden was actually doing there, back when he was VP, not discussing corruption, but helping to establish Bio-Research facilities?!
So if we have a leader who is fully culpable for illegal shit, and we hand him over along with other cronies, is the country still libel for the resulting world crisis?
Interesting how much of her tweet becomes accurate if you replace “russia” with “democrats”.. at least on spirit..
FWIW: there may well be biological research facilities in the Ukraine today that have nada to do with (and zero connection with) the USA. If so, I’d guess our govt knows a bit about them.
During the Soviet era, public sources indicate the USSR had a huge clandestine bio-weapons program. It reputedly continued long after the UN Biological Warfare Convention was signed.
I’d be willing to bet a fair number of researchers in that Soviet-era program were ethnic Ukrainians. And I’d also be willing to bet that a fair number if not most of those former-Soviet-but-ethnically-Ukrainian researchers did not choose to remain in Russia after the breakup of the USSR.
Remember: the Ukraine apparently doesn’t have any nukes; Russia does. The Ukrainian government having an interest in conducting chem-bio research – with a view towards developing those types of weapons if deemed necessary as a deterrent to ensure their national survival – would make eminent sense from a strategic viewpoint.
Anybody remember the ’79 accident with anthrax in Sverdlosk?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdlovsk_anthrax_leak
Worth noting she didn’t say WE had facilities there, but that there ARE facilities there. As Hondo noted, the Russians built many of them. No wonder they know about them. And for once Psaki is right, the Russians have a long history of developing and using them.
Considering how obstructionist our government has been about Wuhan, it would probably be a cold day in hell before she admitted that we had facilities.
From April 2020:
https://ua.usembassy.gov/u-s-ukraine-partnership-to-reduce-biological-threats/
The Biological Threat Reduction Program in Ukraine. Fact sheets and documents can be found at this site:
https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/kyiv/sections-offices/defense-threat-reduction-office/biological-threat-reduction-program/
A 20 January 2020 4 minute video about the Biological Threat Reduction Program in Ukraine that is audio in English. The comments are in English as well and are interesting to read:
Interesting:
https://theparadise.ng/here-are-the-documents-the-u-s-embassy-in-ukraine-scrubbed-on-biological-threat-reduction-labs/
“The Department of Defense expenditures as listed for select Ukrainian laboratories follow below:
“Beware the Military Industrial Complex.” Dwight David Eisenhower.
My sympathies still lie with the innocent people of the World that are being used as pawns by the power mad Global Elitists of the World.
According to captured Russian soldiers Putin has been feeding the troops the raw meat that US Forces are in the Ukraine as well.
I just can’t for the life of me figure out how anyone with an IQ of more than 10 can think funding this type of research in foreign countries makes any kind of fucking sense.
We really are being led by fucking idiots.
There were docs on the net purporting to show that the US had biowar labs in Ukraine. That was never true and the docs do not support such a conclusion.
The biological research labs were no secret, now was the funding as it was passed openly, by Congress, many years ago. I’ve seen inklings of info, from time to time, that suggests that Russia may have biowar labs. Sine Putin’s regime has gone soviet in the manner it handles their agitprop. They are screaming about something they themselves are dong.
https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/03/08/obama-led-ukraine-biolab-efforts/
I guess the more pertinent question for me is “why does it take 25+ years of this program at ~$16M in 2019 alone to help destroy these bio agents?”
The WHO informed the Ukrainians early this week that they needed to destroy potential hazardous items before there was a combat risk to the facilities, and the Ukrainians have stated that they did so (in a matter of days).
If this could be done in a matter of days, what were the US tax payer funds being used for over 25 years?
“ Also, Russia has a track record of accusing the West of the very violations that Russia itself is perpetrating.” following the comments, there are many that claim that this is in line with what the GOP does! However, I see it as what the left does. Example: burn down cities in “mostly” peaceful protests, while wailing about the violence on JAN 6 2021!
I can’t wrap my mind around how “they” can’t wrap their mind around the common sense
Ol’ Poe has come to the conclusion that a conspiracy theory is any of the many things that are sneaky, underhanded, dishonest, disloyal or outright treasonous that we catch the Democrats doing.
When the Democrats begin labeling Republicans’ expressed concerns as conspiracy theory is when we know we ultimately are going to be proved right and they have been doing exactly what we have been saying they’re doing.
There should be a term for that. Any ideas?
Maskirovka?
Demskirovka !
The Soviets called it dezinformatsiya for decades. Just use that existing term – it gets the point across well along with highlighting the origin and past greatest practitioner.