Goldsmith and Woods: the CCP was correct, the US was wrong regarding Internet control

| July 9, 2021

On another thread here, someone suggested that international audiences may see us as “buffoons”. The reality? People in different countries see things similar to us. (Nagee)

This is what Jack Goldsmith and Andrew Woods expressed in their opinion piece in The Atlantic. In their article, they applauded the tech platforms for taking on new roles involving information control. Civil rights groups, tolerating these measures during the pandemic, are cautioning against making these control measures permanent.

From The Atlantic:

As surprising as it may sound, digital surveillance and speech control in the United States already show many similarities to what one finds in authoritarian states such as China. Constitutional and cultural differences mean that the private sector, rather than the federal and state governments, currently takes the lead in these practices, which further values and address threats different from those in China. But the trend toward greater surveillance and speech control here, and toward the growing involvement of government, is undeniable and likely inexorable.

In the great debate of the past two decades about freedom versus control of the network, China was largely right and the United States was largely wrong. Significant monitoring and speech control are inevitable components of a mature and flourishing internet, and governments must play a large role in these practices to ensure that the internet is compatible with a society’s norms and values.

BAs surprising as it may sound, digital surveillance and speech control in the United States already show many similarities to what one finds in authoritarian states such as China. Constitutional and cultural differences mean that the private sector, rather than the federal and state governments, currently takes the lead in these practices, which further values and address threats different from those in China. But the trend toward greater surveillance and speech control here, and toward the growing involvement of government, is undeniable and likely inexorable.

In the great debate of the past two decades about freedom versus control of the network, China was largely right and the United States was largely wrong. Significant monitoring and speech control are inevitable components of a mature and flourishing internet, and governments must play a large role in these practices to ensure that the internet is compatible with a society’s norms and values.

According to China Uncensored, The Epoch Times, China in Focus, etc., the CCP has been providing money to American news organizations, and even to individual journalists, to publish pro China news and opinions on their platforms. When you read this The Atlantic article, it appears to be crafted in a way that highlights China at the expense of the United States.

Category: "The Floggings Will Continue Until Morale Improves", China

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MI Ranger

Just from the initial read, it sounds like a propaganda piece. It blatantly states that government censorship is the way to go. It leans nothing on rights, or freedoms. Which is exactly in line with what Fakebook, Utube, and Tweeter are all about: “According to the Regime what you said is not in what they want you to believe so we are censoring your speech. Which is unconstitutional but being allowed!

Ret_25X

to be fair to the lefties, none of them believe in rights or freedom. They don’t even understand the terms as you use them.

To a lefty, rights are “privileges” and freedom is “scary right wing activism”.

In the mentally deficient mind of the leftist, free speech, right to bear arms, private property, and free assembly are all just “fascist propaganda” designed to “harm POC”.

Why do they think this way? Because they are emotionally and mentally immature (or, more precisely, intellectually self retarded).

Anonymous

Yes, privileges granted because of “who you know” and how good a lefty you are because control is needed to make society and life work.

Ex-PH2

What’s next? Reading my letters when I mail them out? I’ll have to line the envelopes with foil, if that’s the case.

President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight

“Citizen, you are under arrest for badthink. Only the guilty have something to hide. What are you hiding?”

“Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime”, Lavrentiy Beria.

The Other Whitey

Jesus Christ, some people never learn. It’s the “I’ve been to the future, and it works” bullshit all over again.

rgr769

The future is the movie “Idiocracy,” only with a more malevolent government akin to the one in “1984” with a dash of “Brave New World.” Who knew they were so predictive of the future of this once great nation that may end like “The Road.”

Hate_me

“ Significant monitoring and speech control are inevitable components of a mature and flourishing internet, and governments must play a large role in these practices to ensure that the internet is compatible with a society’s norms and values.”

Since when are censorship and government infringement compatible with American society’s norms and values?

Honestly asking, as this wasn’t the case in 1776 but the scale that is the social compact has rebalanced itself (at times, arguably for good reason) often over the near-sestercentennial.