Donald Trump’s Pardons

| December 23, 2020


The Left goes insane, of course. Researching the story led to some of the usual suspects’ pontifications, using descriptors like “Trump goes on a rampage with pardons” “…corrupt excess..” “…blindsided aides…” and “…sleazy final days of the Trump White House.” I don’t need to be specific, they’re all pretty much playing from the same talking point handbook. I read the articles so you don’t have to.
All this for exercising a perfectly legal Executive power. Among those receiving Presidential attention are George Papadopoulos, and four military contractors for Blackwater. Also receiving full pardons are Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.
Poetrooper sends.

Donald Trump Pardons Fifteen Americans Including George Papadopoulos

CHARLIE SPIERING

President Donald Trump pardoned fifteen Americans Tuesday night, including his former campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos.

Papadopoulos was charged with one count of making false statements during Special Counsel Robert Muller’s investigation into accusations of the Trump campaign colluding with Russia.

“Notably, Mueller stated in his report that he found no evidence of collusion in connection with Russia’s attempts to interfere in the election,” the statement from the White House read. “Nonetheless, the Special Counsel’s team still charged Mr. Papadopoulos with this process-related crime.”

The president also issued a pardon to Alex van der Zwaan in connection with Mueller’s investigation, as he was also charged with a process-related crime of making false statements.

Trump also pardoned Nicholas Slatten, Paul Slough, Evan Liberty, and Dustin Heard, four military veterans who were serving as military contractors for Blackwater in Iraq who were prosecuted for the deaths of Iraqi civilians. The pardon was supported by Fox News host Pete Hegseth and many other Republicans in Congress.

President Trump also pardoned Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, who were charged and convicted of assault after shooting an illegal immigrant whom they believed was armed and resisted arrest. President George W. Bush previously issued commutations for both men during his final days in office, but Trump extended a full pardon.

President Trump also commuted the sentences of five additional people.

Looks like some good choices. Read the entire article here: Breitbart.
Thanks, Poe.

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FuzeVT

I can normally decide whether something is a good thing or not depending on who is against it. If Nancy is fer it, I’m agin’ it. . . usually works pretty well.

That’s one reason I was first attracted to President Trump. Not only did he drive all the libs crazy, but he drove all the RINOs crazy, too. I liked that A LOT. For that reason alone, I was confident (and hopeful) in giving him a chance.

So if these pardons drive the left bananas, I figure they must be right and just. Of course, at this point he could support abortion and they would go nuts just because I don’t think they actually hear the words that come out of his mouth.

Poetrooper

“I can normally decide whether something is a good thing or not depending on who is against it. If Nancy is fer it, I’m agin’ it. . . usually works pretty well.”

You can use Lars for that purpose–he’s so seldom right that you can count on almost never being wrong.

See below…

Hondo

True, PT. But reading his verbal diarrhea generally takes so long that it’s easy to forget the reason you were reading it in the first place. So it’s much more effective – not to mention time-efficient – to simply skim a news story giving SanFranNan’s take on the matter.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

All the news on my homepage is cnn where all the low information voters get their Joseph Goebbel’s news and cnn also has a story that the pardon list was from the fox pardon list. I don’t watch fox anymore so didn’t hear about it through them. fox is scared shitless about being sued on anyone mentioning fraud on the elections. I now watch NewsMax which has a number of people that were banned from fox.

Sapper3307

I will pre-emptively remind Lars and gang that Obama (WPOTUSE) freed FALM Bomber (130+) and cop killer Oscar Lopez.
That is all.

Sapper3307

W=Worst

Poetrooper

E=Ever

penguinman000

There is actually a more recent disturbing trend of Democratic President’s pardoning people like Lopez going back to President Carter.

SFC D

Not to mention that Manning fella and Berghdal. Un-fucking-forgivable.

penguinman000

President Carter pardoned Oscar Callazo. A man who attempted to assassinate President Truman. .

President Clinton pardoned Marc Rich, Pincus Green,Dan Rostenkowski and Susan Rosenberg.

President Obama pardoned Manning and Oscar Lopez Rivera.

Hard to take the moral high ground when one speaks from a position of hypocrisy.

Pot, meet kettle.

David

Obama did not pardon Manning, believe he commuted his sentence.

Re: Lars’ dissertation below. Can you write a SHORT comment? Ever? You are the longest-winded bastard I have ever seen.

Commissar

He pardons corrupt politicians, co-conspirators, and traitors and your narrative is the “left” is going insane over this.

And he pardoned his co-conspirators for lying to the FBI in a massive coverup of Presidential criminal activity. Ongoing criminal activity for which he is going to give himself, his family, and his current co-conspirators blanket pardons over the next four weeks.

All rational American who give a shit about our republic should be furious over this,

And they are.

It is disgusting,

And saying Clinton pardoned people for corrupt too is a bullshit excuse.

The Clintons are corrupt shitbags..

You guys act self righteous over Hunter Biden…while ignoring the extensive corruption of the Trump children. Including embezzling campaign funds.

But look on the bright side! If he and his kids had not embezzled nearly a half a billion dollars in campaign funds he might have not had to cut advertising in several markets and might have been able to spend more in the ones he maintained…

And might have won the election.

So a silver lining to the Trump corruption is that we don’t have to deal with this clusterfuck traitor family for much longer.

SFC D

Blah. Blah blahh blah. Blah blah. Orangemanbad. Butwhatabouttrump. Yoursidedidittoo. I’mnotacommunist. Antifaisjustanideathey’renotorganized.

There, I can write a vowel movement just as effectively as you can, and I don’t even have a Berkeley degree.

rgr769

Plus, yours is very pithy. However, the champ of the verbose vowel movement here is ol’ LC. He has to put out multiple paragraphs of his blather in every comment he posts.

Commissar

He is a saint for putting up with you too.

He is always respectful and patient.

Despite the fact that his posts attract a gaggle of asshat comments by the usual suspects.

I don’t know how he does it.

Roh-Dog

As a proud member of the Asshat Tribe of the Nation of Kekistan diaspora, I wish you wouldn’t disparage my people like that.
And we prefer ‘a murder of Asshatstani’ as the group reference and demonym.

Thank you and may the Kek be with you.

Shadilay.

SFC D

“He is always respectful and patient”. I’m glad you recognize that. You should try it. You even try his patience.

Hondo

We’ll just need to deal with Joe the Clueless selling out the US to whoever will grease his cokehead son’s palms. When he’s not lying about his wife’s death, plagiarizing other politician’s speeches, or otherwise misrepresenting what he’s done himself.

Or sniffing the hair of women not his wife. Or pawing LEO’s legs. Or skinny-dipping in front of female members of his protective detail w/o first asking if they mind.

Seriously, Bozo – Gropin’ Joe will show us a new low in crass, boorish, and deniably-corrupt Presidential behavior. Depend on it.

And don’t even get me started about his hypocritical, sell-out running mate.

Commissar

You are such a damn unmitigated partisan hack at this point, Hondo.

Utterly disappointing, and early on you were someone I respected and would actually make sure I read your posts.

When are you going to do that update on presidential travel costs?

Haven’t seen you do one since the Obama administration.

Hondo

Quit trying to deflect attention, Commissar Wu Mao. Your efforts to do so are clumsy and transparent.

And the chutzpah of you accusing ANYONE of being a “partisan hack” is, well, monumental.

Now, back to the issue from which you tried to deflect attention. What of the above I wrote is untrue?

I’ll answer for you, you mendacious twit: none of it. Written or photographic evidence for all of the above exists.

And I didn’t even bother to mention what would possibly be ol’ Gropin’ Joe’s most sleazy stunt: allegedly hitting on another woman (specifically, another Member of Congress’ staffer) around a week after his wife’s untimely demise.

Now, why don’t you just take a nice long walk – say, to Beijing.

Starting in Oakland.

Using the Great Circle route.

A Proud Infidel®™

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Sapper3307

And or FALM bomber/cop killer?

penguinman000

So Carter pardoning Liddy and Obama pardoning Lopez don’t count?

Every single President in recent history has bestowed pardons for all sorts of questionable reasons. It’s a Presidential authority that is frequently abused by whomever is exiting office.

However, Trump doing it is suddenly some sort abjuration/crime.

The absolute hypocrisy of the MSM and the left on this topic is astounding.

If the desire is to make an argument from the moral high ground one can’t participate in the same behavior as those you criticize.

When Biden (or more likely Harris) are on their way out of office, and the same things are done, will there be the same sort of outcry? Not from the left. Because “their” guy/gal is doing it.

The mentality of you and your ilk can best be summed up by the phrase “It’s not wrong when we do it”.

Also, what’s up with Dem Presidents over the last few decades and their penchant for pardoning armed insurgents?

Commissar

Politicians pardoning political corruption is an entirely different category then Lopez.

Carter did not pardon Liddy. He comminuted his sentence to eight years and even still he was the last burglar to be released. So the commutation brought his sentence in line with the other burglars.

I am not saying it was ok to do that.

But it is not the same thing as what Trump is doing.

I think political corruption should be a capital offense and completely unpardonable.

A president pardoning criminal co-conspirators is banana republic shit.

Mason

You’re right. Pardoning terrorist cop killers is vastly different than corrupt politicians.

penguinman000

Right. It’s not like Clinton pardoned his own brother for possession and trafficking.

Or pardoned one of his major contributors, Marc Rich.

You act the office of the President being used for personal advantage is something Trump created.

Because every President getting multi-million dollar book deals and “speaking” engagements have nothing to do with any sort of graft, bribery, or kickbacks.

It’s all Trump maleficence.

Make sure you save some of that invective for when Biden and Harris start ramming executive directives through.

Just admit you have absolute blinders on when it comes to politics. Your “team” is awesome, everyone else sucks.

It’s only wrong when the other “team” does it.

Yeah, yeah. I know. Trump is doing things no other president has ever done…yawn.

Your hyperpartisan blinders are a perfect example of what is wrong with our political system.

And Rivera is a POS who should’ve swung from a yardarm.

Eric (the OC Tanker)

Don’t we have a ‘court’ president that stated that the ‘next’ POTUS does not have the power/authority to reverse a EO from a earlier administration?

Just asking for a friend.

penguinman000

Notice how Commissar refused to reply?

Kind of tells you all you need to know about him and his ilk.

Honor and Courage

Didn’t Carter also let all the Draft Dodgers that went to Canada return! How many was that? I know one was his Son! Naval Academy at it’s best!

26Limabeans

They also pardon a Turkey every Thanksgiving.

Mason

Those turkeys always have political connections.

Slow Joe

I now understand how Turkey got admitted in NATO. Those Turkey operatives are everywhere, even in the White House.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66, ARNG 75-77

Commissar
I’ve been on this site a few years now and read most of your comments. My education only goes up to High School unlike many of the commenters on the site and my time in the Military only went up to E5 when I joined the ARNG from 1975-1977. I really cannot compete with your political views so IMHO, I believe you are doing a Devils Advocate shtick keeping everyone dueling with you and that’s all I have to say from one Conservative to another Conservative and have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

SFC D

Jeff-
The Commissar fervently believes he’s trolling everyone on TAH. The truth of the matter is, he’s the one getting trolled, he runs into the same ambush day after day and thinks he’s winning.

Hondo

Not sure about that, SFC D. I think it’s either a case of him (1) preaching what he believes to be Truth to the masses, or (2) cynically parroting partisan talking points without caring about their validity.

IMO it’s the former – and he’s merely another gullible Leftist polezni durak who doesn’t realize he’s being a dupe. But the latter possibility can’t be discounted entirely.

SFC D

Yet WE’RE the cultists.

Honor and Courage

Don’t Ask Don’t Tell! I thought you were a ring Knocker! You Know Officers been making simple shit hard for 200 years! 75-77 Did you miss the RVN!

Ret_25X

Commissar Dumkopf…wrong again.

No one “lied” to the FBI about a crime that never existed.

Also, Trump is no traitor. Unlike your lord and savior, Joe “CCP” Biden.

Your posts are pure crap, and the reason we respond to you is not because we want you to know the truth but because we like it that you are so butt hurt.

Commissar

Bullshit.

They lied to the FBI. That is a crime in of itself.

And they are covering up crimes.

Mueller report lists 10, 7 indictable,

Stop being a brainwashed nitwit.

I guess Trump will be giving himself a blanket pardon for all the crimes he didn’t commit as well?

Mason

Are you going to apologize or at least admit you were wrong when Trump doesn’t pardon himself and his whole family?

Hondo

Oi, Mason – now aren’t ye a wee bit auld t’be a believin’ in Leprechauns, laddie? (smile)

penguinman000

How about you actually read the entirety of the Muller report you fuking shill?

Because it very clearly doesn’t support the accusations you are throwing around.

Something along the lines of no criminal activity established.

But facts aren’t important to you. Just scoring points for your team.

Is that team China or team Russia? We are all unclear.

Commissar

It says a lot that the best defense you can come up with for Trump is that other presidents made shitty pardons too.

I guess by your logic that makes Trump’s pardoning traitors and co-conspirators ok.

And thus that makes the pardons by the previous pardons OK as well.

That is how twisted you all have become to justify the asshattery of your Donald McDespot.

Commissar

Just like Honda suddenly being fine with hundreds of millions of dollars in Presidential vacation costs.

Commissar

*Hondo*…

Sorry, Hondo, autocorrect says you spell your name wrong.

penguinman000

No one here is ok with bad behavior of any elected official besides you. The reason you keep hearing people beckoning back to prior administrations is your instance that your party is free of the stink.

Your own party stole the nomination from Bernie. Can you at least agree to that?

No, of course not. They are your “team”.

You lack the intellectual fortitude to actually call a spade a spade.

penguinman000

By the way, how about you harken back to your classes at Berkley to forecast the outcome of hyper-political BS you are feeding?

No. Didn’t think so. Intellectual coward.

3/17 Air Cav

I typed in my response to your comment, proofread it, then was ready to hit the post comment button. Then it hit me, your just not worth my time!

Slow Joe

What is this “proofreading” you speak about?

Is it like a superpower or sometin?

Ret_25X

I’m hoping for a full on pardon for Snowden and Assange.

Now that we know as a fact that Assange attempted to get the US State Dept to take action to prevent the release of the classified cables and they just blew him off, I want her majesty…errr…Clinton charged with the releases.

As for Snowden, it should never be unlawful to expose criminal behavior by the government. I know that won’t sit well with Commissar Dumkopf’s cronies, because they all fully endorse spying on the citizens, but it is the truth, nonetheless.

rgr769

The only problem I have is with Snowden, in that he committed federal crimes by disclosing classified info he personally misappropriated. Assange merely published classified information supplied to him; he didn’t commit crimes to get it. If Assange belongs in prison for publishing classified info, then so does everyone who did so at the WAPO and the New Yawk Slimes for the past 70 years. So I would like to see Assange pardoned so we can find out if Seth Rich was the source for the DNC emails Wikileaks published.

Commie-Tsar

WHICH ONE OF YOU CAPITALIST HEATHENS TOOK A SHIT IN MY STOCKING!!!

A Proud Infidel®™

I can’t remember just who won the raffle to do so, but it allegedly raised a bucket or three of money for the Trump Legal Fund!!

Deckie

It isn’t a raffle, that ticket is a number to stand in line and wait your turn to drop your steamer.

Stacy0311

Trump should pardon Hillary and Obama.

That would be a hoot.

Thunderstixx

Biden too, but not his idiot son !!!!

Slow Joe

Biden doesn’t have an idiot son.

He said publicly that Hunter was the smartestez human bean he have ever met.

Sapper3307

Biden will exonerate John Wilks Booth first day in ORFACE.

Commissar

Other food news.p, because of the defamation lawsuits a Trump allies are now going to shut the f up about their baseless conspiracy theories with respect to the election.

They were completely unwilling to allege systemic election fraud under oath or in court. I never once presented any evidence of it in court,

Only ever willing to make their baseless accusations in press conference and
staged “hearings” with clown “witnesses“,

And now that they have to put up or shut up they are going to shut up.

As is Fox News and OANN on the matter, the backtracking has already begun by both outlets.

So Trump might still make a power grab but he lost much of his supporting media propaganda narrative.

And he sure as shit won’t have the military behind him.

It’s ok though, he still has his pardons and most of his cult.

Until they wake they hell up.

Roh-Dog

“…Trump might still make a power grab…he still has…most of his cult,…[u]ntil they wake they (sic) hell up.”
If it wasn’t for full-bore psychotic projection you wouldn’t have a damn thing to say about your President, which is pretty sad.

America, as intended, doesn’t give a sh*t about what you say, but what you intend to do,…well, don’t.
D-bag.

Commissar

Dude, the guy has still not conceding and tried 57 court cases to overturn the election. Despite losing by 8 points nationally and not even being close in several of the states he tried to sue.

That is a power grab, dipshit.

He also tried to have his attorney general indict and arrest his political opponent, both before and after the election.

That is also a power grab, you intransigent nitwit.

There is a reason the attorney general is getting the fuck out of dodge and has made public statements saying there was no evidence of fraud.

There is a reason senior military officials, including the most senior military official in this country have gone public to make it clear that the military has no roll deciding elections.

Trump is floating the idea of martial law to seize voting machines and rerun the election in swing states.

And Flynn, who Trump brought back into his inner circle, is on TV arguing Trump should do just that,

It won’t work because it is unconstitutional,

But he is going fire some military leaders because he is pissed at the fact that, despite Flynn (a retired general) telling him he has the power to do it, the military is saying he doesn’t.

Roh-Dog

You’re a breath of fresh fart.

“[T]he guy has still not conceding (sic)”

Point to me on the Constitution where it says The President has to, I’ll wait.

“He also tried to have his [A]ttorney [G]eneral indict and arrest his political opponent, both before and after the election.”

I’m not sure what you’re talking about, news to just about everyone not worshiping at the shrine of Rachel Maddow. Anywho, I’m sure one of them was a felon and the other, well, time will tell IF the DOJ ever gets off their collective asses and gets ‘the big guy’. A former-VP should probably not have “the smartest man [he knows]” negotiate while drug-addled…

If he is such a tyrant, willing to burn down heaven and earth to ‘get retribution’, then were is all the leaks regarding illegal wire taps he’s using to get back at the machine that did the same to him, pray tell?

The evidence ain’t there dude, and that I ain’t ‘intransigent’ ’bout, recalcitrant maybe but the powers that be have EARNED that.

4 more years!

Commissar

Room he tweeted the demand for arrests and made public statements, and even answered question from reporters in the affirmative.

It was not a one off thing, he did it several times.

He does not have to concede. But it says a lot that he is undermining our democracy by claiming he won the election and that there was systemic fraud.

The fact that you are defending that bullshit is despicable. Disgusting,

There were no illegal wiretaps of Donald Trump. Never bothered to check that claim did you? Just mindlessly regurgitated Trump’s lie.

Not a despot? Then why is he refusing to recognize the election? That is literally what a despot would do.

Roh-Dog

I like my Republic and I think I’ll keep it.

Donald Trump’s second term is going to be tough on you, cupcake.

Up the Prozac now so on 20JAN21 you don’t decompensate too bad.

Mason

All the lawsuits have been dismissed before the point of presenting evidence. The SCOTUS really abdicated their responsibilities when they refused to take up the Texas case. Even if the case is BS, they are the sole arbiter of issues between the states. Without a venue for these issues you very easily can lose the republic.

Commissar

No Mason, that is not what happened. All of the court cases are available online. Every singe one. Every singe word. All public.

There is no excuse for you to make you completely bullshti propaganda claim that the cases were dismissed without them ever getting the “chance” to present evidence, they admitted in court several time they had no evidence of systemic fraud, and even admitted several times they were not actually even alleging anything that could have flipped the election.

They were attacking basic processes, not alleging fraud.

And the Texas lawsuit was a national embarrassment by a clorrupt piece of suit trying to win a pardon for his years of corrupt behavior for which is is under federal investigation.

It was a quid pro quo for a pardon and the case was both baseless and Texas had no standing to file it.

Which is why a 6-3 conservative SCOTUS threw it out, it was 120+ pages of incoherent conspiracy without a shred of evidence.

In most of the lawsuits they were specifically asked if they had evidence of systemic fraud and they admitted under oath they had none.

They never were willing to actually allege in court that systemic fraud occurred. Only Giuliani tried, momentarily, and when the judges asked him if that is what he is actually alleging he immediately backtracked because he knew he had no evidence and would be disbarred or censured for the lie.

I want you to remember that when the democracy was at stake you chose to side with a fucking despot who is lying to try to steal an election .

That is the side of history you chose. And to act as a propagandist for.

Roh-Dog

“That is the side of history you chose. And to act as a propagandist for.”

Are we going to get spanked and set to bed without dinner for our crimes, der komrade?

I like mine with a belt, bare assed.

AZRobert

Is there a Pardon for just being an American….asking for a friend.

11B-Mailclerk

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/888

10 U.S. Code § 888 –

Art. 88. Contempt toward officials

Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

Roh-Dog

Please?
Pretty, pretty PLEASE?!

Commissar

The UCMJ does not apply if you are not receiving a salary or not receiving.a military pension.

My pension does not kick in until I am 57.

I will try not to criticize whatever president is in office in 2028.

Hondo

Actually, per recent Federal court decisions it appears there’s a very good chance it does.

Remember: unless you opted for discharge vice retirement, you are still a member of the US military – specifically, a member of the Federal Reserve Components (the USAR’s Retired Reserve). Whether or not you are drawing a pension at present doesn’t alter that fact.

You might want to consider that in making your comments here.

Roh-Dog

NO!! He should keep right on!!

I need him like a fish needs air! Like a tiger needs his cage, a mushroom tip needs a zipper!

Commissar

The Supreme Court’s ruling was entirely predicated on the fact that he was “entitled to pay”…and therefore still subject to the UCMJ.

It was his pension that caused him to be subject to the UCMJ.

I am not entitled to pay until I am 57.

As for the DOD directive on political activities; it explicitly only applies to active duty.

Also, there is a huge difference between contemptuous statements and sexual assault.

While retirees have been dragged back onto active duty to be charged for crimes often in the past century…..

The last time one was brought back for political statements p, even contemptuous words, was over 100 years ago. Despite the fact that retired generals are making part time careers on TV interviews, radio shows, and OpEd of being critical of officials and the president. And have since at least Clinton.

Hondo

It’s possible you’re right. I’d have to read the SCOTUS decision in detail to see if you are or not, and I might do that one day soon.

Your life, your freedom. Take that chance if you like.

Commissar

Actually, since this place has decided to escalate things in this way I am not sure this worth any risk.

It is not like I come out of these exchanges feeling much better about the crap that is going on…

I don’t feel like much of the engagement here is in good faith at this point.

I should have known when this place did a 180 and started fan boi-ing over Putin,

It was weird.

Still cringe when I think about it.

Reminded me of that movie “invasion of the body snatchers”.

Seriously, sometimes it feels like I am arguing with Pod people and all they are doing is gaping their mouths, pointing at me, and squealing.

Roh-Dog

Bye.

SFC D

You’re like that guy who bangs his head against the wall because it feels good when he stops. You hate it here, you hate everyone here and everything they believe in, yet here you are.

HMCS(FMF) ret

It’s his version of mental masturbation… he gets off on being humiliated and angry here

Commissar

But you truly are a little ratfuck weasel.

The Dead Man

The diverse crying of a Blue Falcon truly is something to see.

Commissar

Name one person I ever Blue Falconed,

Sapper3307

G.G Aleen
Sleazy P martini

Hondo

One could argue that your espousal of Leftist/collectivist principles and “Social Justice” as superior to allowing individual effort and merit to determine success – along with your support for Marxist-led organizations like BLM – has Blue Falconed the Founding Fathers.

11B-Mailclerk

I have this weird expectation that people entrusted with a commission stay in their lane.

Why is that lane really frakking important?

You chose to indicate your rank, Major. If you want the respect, walk the walk.

Why is that expectation unreasonable?

A Proud Infidel®™

Here you go again Major Moonbat, you know that you don’t have a leg to stand on thus you go to ad hominem rants!

NHSparky

One of my liberal friends is absolutely apoplectic about that.

rgr769

Then unfriend him.

Somehow, when you are in the kill zone of a vehicular ambush it is difficult to be very discriminating with your return fire as you and your comrades avoid imminent death.

Roh-Dog

Dunno where else to put this, so here ya go…

https://youtu.be/ABYC7ikFIuY

I left him some love on the comments and thumbed it up as I’m sure the MSM/tech oligarchs/Anti-Rationals have stepped all over it in their fervor.

The President’s youtube has been fun the last few years. I’m going to miss Orange Man Rad.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66 A Gang Snipe

Here is something to think about: If joe gets into office and within some amount of time, would be removed by the 25A and maybe would be so teed off, he would say in his resignation speech that the election was rigged. Who knows, but only the Shadow knows.

penguinman000

On an aside note, who would be willing to sponsor a MMA match between me and Commissar? If he wins the funds could go to, oh I don’t know, China. If I win the funds go to the VFW National Home for Children.

I would be more than willing to make this happen. We could make this happen in 6-8 months. Since he is in the SF valley area he could train at Ralph Gracie’s school.

I’m sure we can find a small show in CA that would sponsor this.

How about it? We could raise a few $$ for causes we each believe in. I’m down. How about you?

MODS-Please don’t let this die. This is a great opportunity to do good for the veteran community. And I would really like to punch him in the face.

Roh-Dog

Tempting. I got 0.1 BTC on it.

I’ll double it if you win by submission.

penguinman000

I have no idea if Der Douche actually trains or not. I’m willing to take that risk.

The ball in is in his court to make good things happen.

That would be things that don’t occur on the internet.

rgr769

I’d be willing to drive over 500 miles and put down a couple of Benjamin’s to watch that beat down.

Anonymous

Socialist gets open w/ Hannity’s guest host Rose Unplugged:
https://twitter.com/rose_unplugged/status/1341755211145207810

Thunderstixx

Come on TAH !!!!
Put that pukeface suckwad on the twitter train to oblivion.
We’re all sick of him to death.
All I want for Christmas is for lars to go away, lars to go away, lars to go away.

rgr769

Ditto.

11B-Mailclerk

Folks, However you might not like Commissar’s opinions, he does have the right to express them, even here, subject to the modest restrictions he accepted when Commissioned, and the rules of our hosts. We are born to that right, and he more than re-bought that right big-time when he stuck his hand in the air and oathed/affirmed. We, of course, can express our views of those views. I ping him on -how- he does it, because I expect Officers to accept the leash that comes with all that power and trust. And because those restrictions have “good of the service” and “obedient to the Constitution” and “civilian government” implications. Thus we have them in writing. Personally, I think that his thinking on some topics is off, and that he chose some -really- dysfunctional premises. If he were to stay in some clearly marked “commissioned officer” lanes when expressing himself, I would not be “ratfuck weasel” harsh in my criticism by posting UCMJ quotes to say “reflect on your ways”. Junior enlisted active duty read this site, as do those with rank. Count on it. People still in service, active or reserve, post here. What are the implications to “good order and discipline” if we do not call out the most serious lane edges? He is not the only person who should ponder the impact of posts. And Commissar, how am I a “rat-fuck weasel” by warning you that you might be endangering yourself? You are making public statements easily attributed back to you, that someone might think really actionable. Not a lawer. Don’t know. I just read them and say “hmmm. Looks wrong”. But you get the “heads up” because I think you deserve a “heads up”, and because I feel protective of my Country and those who still wear the uniform, even you. If I, as I was Specialist, am expected to respect and salute you, I fucking -demand- you walk the walk. Demand, Major. As a citizen, one each, of the USA, I make the same demand, Major. As a veteran of my -trivial- fucking service, I still… Read more »

HMCS(FMF) ret

Well put, 11B… but, it will fall on deaf ears. Lars posts here as a outlet, his version of, as my late father would say, “mental masturbation”, because of his anger towards all thing that are not “right” in is view of the world.

He had the banhammer dropped on him by Jonn for calling people here and TAH racist and I’m sure that he’s testing his limits with his rantings. I think that the only thing that may wake him us is a visit from “Big Army” questioning his conduct online and with his “friends” in Pantyfa/BLM.

SFC D

Act like an officer? Hell, I’d settle for him acting as a grown man instead of a spoiled little child.

Claw

“I’d settle for him acting as a grown man”

Myself, I’d settle on him practicing the three B’s when it comes to commenting:

Be Brief

Be Brilliant

Be Gone!!

Smile

KoB

Claw Daddy, the spapos will do none of the above. He is a masochist that gets off on the beat down he receives here. I don’t even skim his drivel anymore.

Wonder how many fresh cream pies his mama and the UPS/FedEx/Amazon Drivers mixed up for him over the holiday? He hates her too, you know…His words!