India and USA Make a Deal.

| October 27, 2020

Does China really want a war with India and the USA? Read this and then you decide.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/10/27/esper-pompeo-drive-us-anti-china-message-in-india-visit/

From the article:  Esper and Pompeo sought to play on Indian suspicions about China to shore up a regional front against increasing Chinese assertiveness in the Indo-Pacific region. They also lauded joint cooperation in fighting the COVID-19 pandemic.

In talks with their Indian counterparts, Esper and Pompeo signed an agreement expanding military satellite information sharing and highlighted strategic cooperation between Washington and New Delhi with an eye toward countering China. The two men paid tribute to Indian troops killed in defense of their country, including 20 who died earlier this year in an incident with China.

Just hours before the meetings began, the Trump administration notified Congress of plans for a $2.37 billion sale of Harpoon missile systems to Taiwan — the second major arms sale in two weeks to the island that Beijing regards as a renegade province. China reacted to the first sale by announcing sanctions on U.S. defense contractors.

Regardless of domestic U.S. election considerations, it is a critical time in the U.S.-India relationship as China looms large over the Indo-Pacific.

Heightened border tensions between New Delhi and Beijing have added to Chinese-American animosity that has been fueled by disputes over the coronavirus, trade, technology, Taiwan, Tibet, Hong Kong, human rights and disputes between China and its smaller neighbors in the South China Sea. – article

Now, consider that Kim il Jung is fit enough now to witness the recent parade of his biggest missile, which, frankly is approaching the size of a Saturn rocket section, and he’s had a successful 500 kiloton underground nuclear test that rattled the USGS’s seismographs over here, and he seems to almost be itching for a fight over an imagined wrong. Even if the Chinese don’t like him, he’s their next-door neighbor, and he might even be their backup if they picked a fight. His ambitions outstrip his size.

Why bring this up? Because while the Chinese have their own nukes, if they picked a real fight, as opportunistic as they are, they are pragmatic enough that they’ll do whatever is necessary to get what they want.

Category: 2020 Election, China, Foreign Policy, North Korea

Comments (11)

Trackback URL | Comments RSS Feed

  1. 5th/77th FA says:

    Heh, heh. Nothing like having a coupla billion some odd dollars worth of Harpoons laying around, you know, just because. I say sell the ROCs whatever they need to defend themselves. And do the same for the Indians. We do share a common heritage with the Indians, after all, we were an English Colony too, one time. You don’t have to just look at recent history of Chinese actions to know that they are not our friends.

    “…sanctions on U.S. defense contractors.” ?!?DaHell!?! BFD and why the hell are we selling ANYTHING U.S. defense related to them bastards anyhow? The little bit we save by buying the slave produced Chinese Communist built products or the little bit of profit we make from selling them defense related product is negated by the cost of what they have done to our economy and our manufacturing base.

    Phuque theeem!

    • USAFRetired says:

      A number of Defense contractors also have a commercial piece and Chinese sanctions could hurt those business arms.

      • 5th/77th FA says:

        Roger that Zoomie, and that may be a consideration of sorts. However, and this is just my opinion, others’ milage may vary, the trade off of trade and commerce with those theiving basatrds v them reverse engineering or the down right theft of proprietary info washes out the slim profits that may be there. I saw FIRST hand the destruction of the electronics, appliance, and furniture manufacturing in this country. The timber industry got fried, and now the automotive is going the way of the steel. Food stuff, our drugs, hell you can’t even buy a domesticly made vitamin anymore. The Chinesecommunistic Orginated Virus Infecting Disease, in the long term, may be the best thing that has ever happened to us. It may have made people wake up to the fact that an unfriendly super/nuclear power has control over our basic goods and have made massive inroads into the control of career politicians. And sadly, we were sold out by the very corporations that we all used to work for and in many cases bailed out of debt because they were “too big to fail.” What you wanna bet that it won’t be too much longer till your Father’s Buick is made completely in China?

  2. I hope that India will now share the blueprints/plans of those 6,000 year old Vimana space ships with the US.

    • Slow Joe says:

      Seriously?
      Do you actually believe all that crap in Ancient Aliens?

      The Vimanika Shastra, the Sanskrit text that describes the vimanas as flying machines rather than mythological flying cities, was only written in the early 20th century and it is clearly a fake, claiming to be older than that.

      Do not fall for those charlatans.

      • Cameron says:

        I think he was joking.

        • Graybeard says:

          JEff was, Cameron.

          Slow Joe is just slow to catch jokes, and thinks satire sites, e.g. Babylon Bee, The Onion, et al, are being serious.

          • Cameron says:

            You know something Graybeard? There are times where it seems like satire sites such as the two you mentioned are becoming more and more serious.

            • 11B-Mailclerk says:

              It is very hard to satire the left. Post some obviously goofy satire, only to find the target actually went there in general.

              Left-anarchist mobs objecting to authority do the bidding of rich power-mad oligarchs.

              See?

  3. Cameron says:

    I trust India a hell of a lot more than I trust China. And from what I have seen of the Indian Military on Wikipedia, they look pretty well structured to me and are more than capable of developing their own technology. I don’t know how they will measure against the Chinese but there is no doubt that they can really hurt the Chinese.

    They have developed their own main battle tank for their army, are actively working on a carrier fleet with domestically produced aircraft carriers, and launched their first home produced nuclear powered submarine class which happens to be an SSBN (the Arihant-class, Arihant meaning conqueror from the ancient Indian religion Jainism with a second class in planning designated S-5). Plus, their army is made up of 1,237,117 soldiers, all volunteer.

    They also have the world’s largest border security force at 257,363 personnel scattered across 186 battalions. Units include an artillery regiment, commando units, an air wing, and a marine force. The marine wing itself is currently made up of a total 455 different boats according to Wikipedia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Security_Force

  4. SAMIR SARDANA says:

    What is the worth of the Indian Weapons or Missile systems ?

    The LACM Nirbhay missile of the Indians failed for the 5th time ! dindooohindoo

    5th time ! The Indians never learn ! The missile does not EVEN cross the Boost phase ! It was forced to self destruct as it tilted.In other words even the booster engines failed.

    What will happen at the Turbo stage when the missile inclines to a horizontal trajectory – as it is a Cruise missile – low Alt ! The Indians are only good at cheating – and so, it is better to ask Pompoo for the Tomahawk blueprints ! In any case the Indians are using US Military satellite data, and in future,will use the US Milit satellites also.

    Basically Indians are incapable of making and using missiles !

    Context1

    This is a story from the Ramayana – when Rama could not stop a crow from lacerating the breasts of his wife Sita,when he was sleeping on her lap !

    Book V : Sundara Kanda – Book Of Beauty
    Chapter [Sarga] 67

    सुख सुप्ता त्वया सार्धम् जानकी पूर्वम् उत्थिता |
    वायसः सहसा उत्पत्य विरराद स्तन अन्तरे || ५-६७-३

    “Seetha, who slept happily by your side (at one instance) got up before you. A crow coming down quickly, tore her flesh at an area in the midst of her breasts (with its beak).”

    Context 2

    SO THEN WHAT DID RAMA DO ? THE RAMAYANA SAYS THAT HE MADE A MISSILE FROM A “BLADE OF GRASS” AND THAT ALSO FAILED ! THE INDIAN MISSILES ARE MADE AND TESTED IN THE FANTASY LAND OF THE RAMAYANA !

    स दर्भम् संस्तरात् गृह्य ब्रह्म अस्त्रेण न्ययोजयः |
    प्रदीप्त इव काल अग्निः जज्वाल अभिमुखः खगम् || ५-६७-१२

    “Taking a blade of grass from your bed of the sacred grass, you charged it with the potency of Brahma missile. That flaming blade blazed forth like the fire of universal dissolution, with its end facing the bird.”

    Context 3

    THEN HANOOMAN ASKS RAMA -WHY RAMA DID NOT USE HIS “MISSILE TECHNOLOGY” AGAINST RAVANA OF LANKA AND RAMA IS SILENT ! RAMA KNOWS HIS MISSILES “DO NOT WORK” ! BUT THE INDIANS DO NOT – AND THAT IS THE DISASTER !

    एवम् अस्त्रविदाम् श्रेष्ठः सत्त्ववान् शीलवान् अपि || ५-६७-१८
    किम् अर्थम् अस्त्रम् रक्षह्सु न योजयसि राघव |

    “O Rama! Why are you not employing the same type of a missile on the demons, though you are the foremost among the wielders of missiles, though courageous and possessed of good disposition?”

    THAT IS THE KEY !

    RAMA KNEW THAT HIS MISSILES “DO NOT WORK – AND SO,HE GATHERED AN ARMY OF APES” ! BUT THE INDIANS STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE STORY OF RAMA