Berkeley, California continues being struck by the Good Idea Fairy

| September 25, 2020

The KoB sent along the news that Berkeley has outlawed junk food in the register aisle.

Berkeley is gearing up to become the first city in the nation to ban junk food from the checkout line in grocery stores.

In a unanimous vote Tuesday night, the Berkeley City Council passed the “healthy checkout” ordinance.

Come March 2021, when the measure is set to take effect, large grocery stores in the California city will be prohibited from selling food and beverages deemed unhealthy in a 3-foot radius from the checkout.

“It’s not really a ban, it’s a nudge,” co-sponsor of the ordinance Councilmember Kate Harrison told FOX Business. “What we have discovered is that this law enforces good behavioral economics and facilitates better choices.”

It’s not a ban, it’s a nudge. As they proceed to institute bans on where people can find a Snickers at the grocery store. These are the same people that want to implement “reasonable” gun control restrictions. It’s not a ban, it’s a nudge.

Thanks to the KoB for the tip. Source; Fox News

Category: "Teh Stoopid", "The Floggings Will Continue Until Morale Improves", "Your Tax Dollars At Work", Dumbass Bullshit, Government Incompetence, Guest Link

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Hack Stone

Don’t let those prime retail spaces go to waste. Use those empty shelves to distribute clean hypodermic needles to heroin addicts. It’s a win-win proposition. Berkeley residents will learn to eat healthy while simultaneously injecting toxins that will kill them.

ninja

“What It’s Like Living In California Now:

Ex-PH2

I like this guy. He’s sincere, knowledgeable, goes with the flow, and makes all that – um, er, hmmm… those things seem so very reasonable, doesn’t he?

Sometimes, I really, really want to move back to around the end of the last ice age. Plenty of deer, elk and moose to hunt, never mind game birds like pheasant and turkey, and plenty of open land… and stuff like that.

Roh-Dog

Fellow Countrymen of Californistan!
Look at your “rulers” and the finest decrees they craft from whole cloth and usurpations of your Natural Rights!
May I suggest the following courses of action:
—seize the King’s Snickers, Cokes and Tater Chips
—bring them to the physical fitness center for municipal workers (you know, the ones that never closed but they forced the lowly-citizens to close their businesses)
—throw all the unanimously declared illegal foods in Their pool, the one YOUR tax dollars pay for.

Problem started, on the way to being solved.
“Consent of the governed”
—Publius

Bob Drennan

Demolition Man movie was just a movie…. welp not anymore.

ninja

“It’s not really a ban, it’s a nudge,” co-sponsor of the ordinance Councilmember Kate Harrison”…

Hmmm..interesting.

Harrison’s picture.

She could be a Closet Junk Food Junkie and is simply projecting her issues to fix hers..

😉😎

http://electkateharrison.com/contact-us/

Roh-Dog

She can see the Universal Collectivist Stratagem when hitting her Georgia O’Keeffe inspired bong, and promptly forgets it when she sobers up.

Hack Stone

“She” needs to get the money back on that sec reassignment surgery, it looks like it didn’t stick.

Ex-PH2

It’s because of her, and people like her, that I’m adding extra shelving in my work space for canned/boxed stuff.

I’m less worried about CV19 than I am about that madness swallowing the country like some sort of amoeba on a rampage. It’s oozing – oozing, I tellya! It’s already swallowed California!! Your state is next!!!!

Anyone besides me remember “The Blob”? Well, here you go, the original 1958 trailer.

ninja

Steve McQueen..

😉😎

Ex-PH2

The original!

Hack Stone

Next up they will be mandating what can be given out to Halloween trick or treaters.

Ex-PH2

They already do: no homemade stuff; no razor blades in the wrapped candy; toothbrushes are okay; if you didn’t get it at the store, you can’t hand it out.

When I was that age, there was an older lady in our neighborhood who made the best oatmeal and choco chip cookies on the planet. We used to mob her house first and come back for seconds.

Now, homemade stuff is considered a threat to your offspring because the grinches stole Hallowe’en a long time ago.

I may go vote on Hallowe’en, and dress as the local Plague Doctor, just for the helluvit.

Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH B Woodman

A “nudge”. A Cass Sunstein “nudge”.
Oh, HELL no!

rgr769

Cass would like to nudge you into playing for his team.

Fjardeson

Video was great!

David

XXXX control is never about XXXX, it’s always about the control.

David

I just forwarded that video to everyone I know… freakin’ awesome and not a false point.

ninja

David, Fjardeson & Ex-PH2:

Been itching to out the CA video since yesterday and was going to wait for the WOT and this Mason’s and KoB’s post came up.

That guy absolutely NAILED IT..!!!

😉😎

ninja

“put out” as oppose to “out” in above comment.

😉😎

rgr769

Speaking of the WOT, where is it? It used to be posted on Thursday, IIRC, which I can’t fully rely upon based upon my level of mental acuity. Though, I did pass that cognition test Hiden Biden won’t take.

Ex-PH2

Patience, rgr769er, patience. 🙂

Fix yourself a nice omelette for lunch and enjoy the fine day on hand.

ninja

rgr769:

For a very long time, it was posted on Friday, right before 1300 EST.

Wish it was back to that. It looks as if it now shows up near 1700 hours EST.

Did the time change because of “Firsts”?

😉😎

Claw

” Did the time change because of the “Firsts?”

I think it did, cause it became way too easy to just sit there (for a individual who shall not be named) pounding on the F5 Refresh Key at/before 1300 until it appeared.

Way back when Jonn started posting a WOT the times were very, very random on Fridays and kept the commenters on their toes if they wanted to be First.

Here are some examples of those First times:

22 May 15 – Skippy at 12:03 pm
29 May 15 – Skippy at 5:33 pm
26 Jun 15 – A Proud Infidel at 12:51 pm
10 Jul 15 – MA2USN at 3:38 pm
31 Jul 15 – ChipNASA & AW1Ed both at 12:48 pm

And, Yes, as the Keeper of the paper copy of the Coveted Book of WOT Firsts, I do have the capability of instantly checking who got the “First” on any given Friday over the past five plus years and don’t have to scroll back through the computer archived Open Thread to find it./s

ninja

Thanks, Claw!

Just dropping an idea to thebesig…

Perhaps have WOT show up one Friday between 0600-1100 hours?

It could give Admin a break…and all types of discussion could be generated based on an early post.

Skippy

Don’t we all know someone who’s
A alumni from this crazy place

Combat Historian

Berzerkley being Berzerkley, the city council will now mandate the empty checkout aisles be stocked with gay sex toys and tranny trinkets…

Hondo

. . . and must have signs prominently displayed that remind everyone that the PRC “isn’t really communist”, too.

Roh-Dog

It’s not authoritarianism if the enemies of the state suffer…or something.

Cultists.

AW1Ed

ninja

I still own the ORIGINAL 33 1/2 LP of the Eagles “Hotel California”

Yes, I still own a turntable with speakers.

I was told I was going to burn in Hell, that I was not a true Christian, because Anton LaVey was on the Front Cover and that the song was about Satan Worship.

My comeback?

“Really? Well, I will see you all there (Hell) when we leave this life!”

Yep, that Albumn is sitting next to my Larry Norman, Randy Stonehill, Second Chapter of Acts albums along with my AC/DC, Led Zepplin, Beatles, Rolling Stones, Iron Butterfly Albumns as well as Ricky Skaggs, Johnny Cash…and some Mozart, Beethovan..and Temptation, The Spinners, the Jacksons, Gary Puck and the Union Gap, the Raiders, the O Jays, Jefferson Airplane, the Byrds, the Animals, Crosby, Stills, Nash, Young, YES, Pink Floyd, Elton John, Johnny Rivers, Donna Summers…

Yep. I’m gonna burn in Hell with my entire record collection…

ninja

Confession.

I LOVE “California Dreamin” by the Mama & the Papas.

And it DOES rain in California, despite the song.

And don’t forget to wear Flowers in Your Hair when you go to San Franscisco.

So sad about California, because there are ALOT of Californias that LOVE our Country, LOVE our Flag, LOVE our LEOs and will be voting 45.

Roh-Dog

I have it on good authority, says she hates California, it’s cold and it’s damp.

Roh-Dog

And or Johnny Cash introducing Joni Mitchell (man, I was born in the wrong era!)
https://youtu.be/4fvxx8cIdn4

ninja

Thanks, Roh-Dog…I really enjoyed that!

Roh-Dog

All credit is due to my parents and their vinyl/CD collection, had all you listed and Emerson, Lake and Palmer, ELO, The Band and Zappa.
Chicago’s 25 or 6 to 4 should only ever be played from a pressed plastic disk, imho.

ninja

I have those Albums as well to include Queen, Little River Band…Roh-Dog, I have over 500 Albumns…with 45s and 78s, as well as 8 Tracks, Casesettes, CDs..Carpenters, Linda Robstant, James Taylor, Beach Boys…too many…All Rock and Roll, Country, Disco, Hard Rock, Soft Rocks, Bubbkegum, Opera, Soul, Jazz, Classical. Contemporary Christian.

No Rap Music. Nada. None. Zero.

Well, I guess the ninja family is old enough to be your parents since your parents gave those vinyls..our kids are all wanting our record collection…We already gave them our JBL Speakers and turntables with receivers..We still have a sound system with a great Diamond needle.

Thank You for sharing about your folks!

😉😎

ninja

33 1/2 LPNs Rule.

ninja

Joutney…Steve Perry…another Band I have albums.Stxy,Bob Seager, ELO, Kansas, Supertramp..So many..Yep, Classics will never die.

We are glad our “kids” love our music. We try to listen to their music to be open minded and well rouded.

Thank You for shaemring, Mason!

Commissar

Like you said; nudges are not bans.

The food industry has become pretty fucking terrible. Profit motives and industry malfeasance has led to extraordinarily poor nutrition nationally. Exploitation of human instincts and addictions for profit.

Decades of federal government regulatory incompetence has led to a out of control industry that is creating massive health costs.

I think low impact efforts to counter industry exploitation of human Instinctual preferences for fast and easy access to high calorie poor nutrition food are perfectly reasonable.

Nobody is stopping you from eating a snickers. Your fat ass just has to walk to the candy aisle instead of impulsively buying it at the register while waiting in line.

As for government intruding on what can be displayed at the checkout aisle… most of you would not be ok with porn magazines being displayed at the checkout stand.

I am not here to argue with the libertarians who would be fine with anything the store owner wanted to sell at the checkout.

The question is whether this is reasonable government action. And given the long-standing precedent of saying some things should not be at the checkout because of the potential for social harm…I don’t think this is unreasonable or inconsistent.

Reasonable governance is reasonable.

ninja

Once you let them do one thing, it will never Stop.

Give Them An Inch…

Commissar, I do give you credit for knowing History.

Look at Nazism and Facism and what Hitler and Mussolini did…

And look how it ended…

You Are Better Than That.

Poetrooper

He doesn’t know history–he insists that the fascist National Socialist Party wasn’t socialist–how can that possibly exhibit a knowledge of history?

One consistency about Lars is that he’s as misguided about history as he is about present times.

Hondo

And he does so in spite of the fact that – as I’ve noted with sources in a previous article – Hitler himself declared his party to be Socialist. Along with the fact that by the late 1930s German industrialists were actually studying Soviet doctrine regarding economic planning to try and understand how to manage their industrial activities (sources for that second fact were also provided in the prior article).

Blaster

A privately owned business on privately owned property should not be regulated by the government on how they arrange the products that they sell. It’s called marketing. If they want to have porn magazines at the checkout, they should be able to. However, they need to be prepared to lose a certain demographic of their customer base. If the arrangement of products doesn’t work and profit drops, then rearrange the location of the products. Again, it’s called marketing. I would think that the local government would have more important things to worry with than where the candy is located in the grocery store. Instead of this, why not stop allowing people to purchase candy, etc. with EBT cards.

Isn’t marijuana legal in California? They may need to keep the candy and chips close to door for those midnight munchies

Commie-Tsar

What’s your secret on how you fit your size 46 butt into a pair of size 28 pants?

Blaster

I wore 28s once. ONCE!

Ret_25X

Yet, you want more of the government regulatory incompetence. Government is the bad actor in all of your incontinent bad dreams, but also the savior in all your fapping fantasies. What a dimwit.

And comparing pornography to junk food wins you the coveted “Idiot of the Day” award.

But…that’s just the way you are. Deceitful and dreadful.

Tune in next time for “Dummissar gets REKT” when he will compare getting shot while resisting arrest to the virgin birth.

Twist

Why am I not surprised that you are defending left wing authoritarianism. We all know that if Trump or any other right wing politicians did this you would be on here writing a 10,000 word essay slamming it.

Hondo

Decades of federal government regulatory incompetence has led to a out of control industry that is creating massive health costs.

Oh, horsedung. I remember when candy bars had NO nutritional info on them. They were also in general larger than they are today – and in real terms, cost less (Fifteen cents circa 1970 was the equivalent of $1.00 this year due to inflation). The best I can tell advertising today for junk food is not significantly different than it was 40 or 50 years ago. And junk food displayed at checkout was common 50 years ago, too.

It’s not the lack of regulation here that’s the problem. Rather, it’s lack of physical activity and self-discipline.

Federal/state/local governments have no business regulating if/when I (or anyone else) chooses to buy junk food. Some people will indulge responsibly; others will not. Their choice, their adverse health consequences.

Quit trying to impose your idea of “correct behavior” on everyone, Commissar. That’s what an authoritarian dictatorship does: regulates every aspect of their citizenry’s behavior.

You want to live like that, move to North Korea. If they’ll take you, of course.

rgr769

China would be a better fit for a fellow that speaks Mandarin and claims to like Asian women. Although, if he communicates anything the ChiCom government doesn’t like he may find himself being tissue typed for an organ “donation.”

11B-Mailclerk

Calizuela

Poetrooper

Or Cubafornia–take your pick…

NHSparky

No worries. It’s not like they’ll be able to find the candy bar in the dark.

I’m embarrassed to admit I’m a CA native, but the state bears zero resemblance to the CA of my youth.

rgr769

Ditto. I left Ontario, CA in 1958. There is no comparison to what is was then and what it is now.

5th/77th FA

When I FIRST saw this on evening last, I had a major WTF moment. Sent it to Mason, we had talked about a little something to add some levity, or at least a change from riots and politics. Welp, it’s that for sure. We had a laff, hope y’all did too.

As a former business owner/manager I never thought it would come to a point where a grubmint entity would/could tell me how to display my legal or morally regionally acceptable products. A “nudge”/”suggestion” today, is an ordinance tomorrow. And no, I don’t think pr0n should be where it can be seen by people who would be offended by it, especially children. They’ll see it soon enough. No need to go out of your way to tick off customers to sell to a limited market. Another thing you’ll see when these “impulse” items are moved from the front where it can be watched, is more theft of that stuff. Margins are razor thin in the grocery business, despite what this article says about higher profit on healthy foods.

“Shrinkage” is a real and present danger to profit margins. And I don’t mean the kind that comes from cold swimming pools.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Hondo

Another thing you’ll see when these “impulse” items are moved from the front where it can be watched, is more theft of that stuff.

Perhaps that’s the real agenda – make it easier for those without money to commit theft “unilaterally redistribute the wealth” regarding junk food.