Should AG Barr Invoke the RICO Act?

| August 25, 2020

Newsmax’s article linked below suggests that the RICO Act is an appropriate method of getting to the bottom of what it going on in this country now. After watching the unnecessary destruction in Kenosha, WI, over the police shooting a man in the back when he was getting into his car, you have to ask who started the real destruction, and why? Anger over that shooting is justified, because the video shown on the news feeds shows that the cop over-reacted, in my view. Anger, yes. Demonstrations, yes. Destruction? Absolutely not. So who started that.

Newsmax’s author indicates that applying the RICO Act to the mix might get to the bottom of it, and it’s time it was applied.

Maybe. It may just be time to invoke the RICO against Antifas and their ilk – Newsmax

https://www.newsmax.com/stevelevy/williambarr-rioters-rico/2020/08/21/id/983289/

From the article:

Throughout the Jim Crow era it was common for racist juries in parts of America to look the other way as violent crimes were perpetrated against African-Americans.

At some point the federal government intervened and brought its own charges to ensure that justice was carried out.

Today, socialist and liberal Democratic mayors running our nation’s cities are engaging in the same type of enabling of violence as did the racists of the past.

Attorney General William Barr’s Operation Legend is a commendable first step in holding the violent perpetrators to account, but it’s not enough. It’s time for the AG to apply the federal RICO statute against Antifa-like groups that are analogous to organized crime.

Entities encouraging rioting usually utilize the phone lines and the internet to organize their illegal activities, or engage in activity violating the federal civil rights of their victims, thereby subjecting them to federal jurisdiction.

In fact, three white supremacists who traveled from California to Virginia in August 2017 to incite violence in protests were prosecuted under 18 U.S.C. §241, which prohibits conspiracies to “injure, oppress, threaten or intimidate any person … in the exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States.” – article

At some point – possibly not too far off – something that is bubbling under the surface of scum in the pot is going to erupt in a giant bubble and create massive destruction. The rioting last night in Kenosha, WI, over the local po-po shooting someone in the back because he wouldn’t stop when they demanded that he do so (after trying to break up a fight between two women) was the set cause for this riot, which destroyed an entire used car lot nearby.

The response by the author of the Newsmax article is that, as with the Mob in Chicago and other such offensive animals including the leftwingers in the 1950s, is to invoke the RICO Act, and get to the real people behind the disturbances… and while you may think you know who “it” is, it’s more than one person. Those disruptors of society never, ever act alone. Gossip is just that – gossip, not facts.

It’s logical to ask why it was necessary to allow people who have no apparent agenda other than destruction to destroy the center of a city (pick your favorite) and set things on fire.  Why have there been repeats of these actions allowed by local governments?  And who is really behind it? (Hint: it isn’t Captain Queeg.)

Read the article, and if you have anything to add, please do so but please make it constructive.

 

Category: "The Floggings Will Continue Until Morale Improves", Legal

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  1. ChipNASA says:

    Leftist Dems and Rioting pieces of crap, Captain Lincoln F. Sternn,
    The rest of the civilized world, Hanover Fiste (and yes, apparently it is spelled with an “e”.)

  2. Bill R. says:

    While there is no excuse for what happened in Kenosha, he was not simply “getting in his car” as is described. He was reaching under his seat, he already had a hidden knife, and police had dealt with him in the past over guns.

    • Jay says:

      Its never as simple as originally described. The news and mainstream media however, want to paint a broad picture with the fewest brushstrokes as possible. And the BIGGEST brush out there right now is….”SYSTEMATIC RACISM”

    • penguinman000 says:

      If by no excuse you mean when cops have their weapons drawn on a person that person should obey the commands given, then yes. I agree, there was no excuse for Mr. Blake’s actions.

      If by no excuse you mean the cops shouldn’t have shot him, I disagree.

  3. UpNorth says:

    I was wondering, has it been established that the guy leaning into the car was unarmed? It was said yesterday that there was a gun in the car and the video appeared to show a knife in his hand.
    And with 3 kids in the car, did the police know he wasn’t going to harm them?

  4. Commissar says:

    This is also complete bullshit.

    Holy carp you are so submerged in right wing bullshit propaganda that you have come to this?

    Let’s see; top ten states based on crime;
    1. Alaska
    2. New Mexico
    3. Tennessee
    4. Arkansas
    5. Nevada
    6. Louisiana
    7. Alabama
    8. Missouri
    9. South Carolina
    10. Arizona

    So the states with the highest violent crime rate are 8/10 Republican.

    The states with the lowest violent crime…?
    50. Maine
    49.vermont
    48. New Hampshire
    47. Virginia
    46. Connecticut
    45. New Jersey
    44. Kentucky
    43. Wyoming
    42. Rhode Island
    41. Minnesota

    7 out 10 democrats…

    I know you all want to ONLY talk about cities because you Know cities are overwhelmingly democrat leaning and by looking at cities you can use a skewed dataset that make democrats look like criminal conspirators……

    Ok…cities ranked by violent crime rates…

    1. Anchorage, Alaska
    2. Albuquerque, New Mexico
    3. Memphis, Tennessee
    4. Wichita, Kansas
    5. Lubbock, Texas
    6. Detroit-Dearborn-Livonia, Michigan
    7. Spokane, Washington.
    8. Shreveport, Louisiana
    10. Corpus Christi, Texas

    6 of 10 are democrat mayors. Not exactly the overwhelmingly democrat narrative the right likes to spin despite the fact that cities are overwhelmingly democrat led. Just not overwhelming democrat led when it comes to the top ten cities with violent crime.

    Safewise uses the DOJ crime database for this ranking, https://www.safewise.com/blog/most-dangerous-cities/

    Safest Cities in America

    1. Broadview Heights, Ohio
    2. Hopkinton, Massachusetts
    3. Oakland Township, Michigan
    4. Ridgefield, Connecticut
    5. Bergenfield, New Jersey
    6. New Castle Town, New York
    7. Franklin, Massachusetts
    8. Bedford Town, New York
    9. Shrewsbury, Massachusetts
    10. Bernards Township, New Jersey

    Hmmm… 8 out of 9 are democrat. One does not have an elected office for city leader; it is run by a council.

    https://www.safewise.com/safest-cities-america/

    I mean if you want to use the skewed city dataset it is only fair to acknowledge that democrats also overwhelming run the safest cities in America as well.

    Also you mention “socialist” mayors… who the hell are you talking about?

    There hasn’t been a socialist mayor in the US, other than Bernie Sanders, since 1960.

    But let’s look at mayors that promote genuine socialist policies, there have been about a half dozen in the last half century….

    Only one is still in office… Chokwe Antar Lumumba

    He beat a democrat incumbent in the primary. Like all insurgent progressives he is hated by the Democratic Party Establishment. His party funding and support entirely cut off by the party establishment and they will primary him from now until his last breath.

    You can’t charge one person with a RICO charge. It requires a conspiracy. He conspired with himself to challenge the democratic establishment and get them out of Jackson, Mississippi,

    • David says:

      What do those stats look like if you restrict them to major cities, say population 500,000 or more? After all, Big Sandy, TX is pretty safe, but other than producing Lovie Smith, it’s a wide spot in the road. I suspect your numbers would change in that case.

      • Commissar says:

        They essentially did adjust by using per capita statistics.

        • MI Ranger says:

          SO when you say crime, what are you including? So if a town has 100 people and ten people move in and commit fifty crimes before they are arrested, it would be above all other cities with 100,000 population committing 1,000s of crimes.
          Problem with South Carolina is Columbia and Charleston. Our Governor may be Republican but those Mayors are not.

          • Green Thumb says:

            Yeah.

            My lawnmower went missing and that punk-ass kid down the block keeps stealing my newspaper.

            Time to arm up.

            My point is the subjective nature to reported crime.

    • SFC D says:

      Good job. Now do “cities with mostly peaceful protests”.

      • Commissar says:

        Strongly correlated with the “most pointless protests”.

        Name one human or civil right that was won peacefully?

        Name one.

        Or name one that was won without someone committing a crime.

        Our country was founded by the actions of people regarded as criminals, violent protestors, rioters, and even looters.

        I am. To justifying all the actions of protestors.

        There is a difference between violence that promotes a goal and violence that undermines it.

        Targeting the innocent, including innocent businesses, always undermines the goal. Always.

        I likely get even more passed off than you when I see someone associated with a protest committing violence against an innocent, vandalizing an innocent business, looting at all. Etc.

        It does. It just make me sick due to the injustice of it, it fill me with rage and frustration because it undermines efforts I care about deeply.

        If you were talking about which cities have the stupidest protestors, we likely would agree; Portland.

        • Commissar says:

          “I am. To justifying all the actions of protestors.”

          Edit I am not justifying all the actions of protestors…

          • SFC D says:

            You are justifying the actions of each and every violent “protestor” today. These “protestors” would be more accurately called “looters”, “thieves”, “criminals”, and “thugs”. Their actions do not “undermine the goal”. To this mob, it explicitly IS the goal. They call it “reparations”. They’re not fighting for freedom, independence, or civil rights. They are a criminal mob with no purpose than to steal and destroy. They’re building the slum they say was built on “white privilege”. The stores and businesses they loot and burn will not come back to that neighborhood, and why should they? Burning your neighborhood does not improve your neighborhood. It just makes you live in a shithole of your own creation.

          • USMC Steve says:

            The protestors are okay. Protests don’t involve violence. When protestors start acting violently they are rioters. And at that point the protest is over. And the rioters should be dealt with as in Detroit in 1967/68. In every case.

        • Dennis - not chevy says:

          I don’t think the 19th amendment was won violently.

    • TRS says:

      The Commie should have read the Safewise methodology before posting their results. Another case where he read it, so it must be true! This nonsense is why Commies love to burn and ban books they disagree with so their falsities rise to the top. Useful Idiot.

      • Commissar says:

        I did read it, which is why I mentioned they use the DOJ dataset.

        Their methodology is sound. In fact right now it is the industry standard for crime statistics. What other methodology would you use?

        • Mason says:

          You know those stats aren’t accurate. They’re self-reported and self-categorized. Many departments report things accurately. Many others do not. All kinds of games are played with the UCR stats.

      • Commissar says:

        Also, I am not a commie.

        It would be really clear that I am not if you had any idea what the hell you were talking about when you use the word.

        But you don’t. It is just mindless virtue signaling.

        I am almost certain I support market ideas and structures that are freer and more entrepreneurial than you do.

        Hell of a lot more free and entrepreneurial than anything we have in the US.

        • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

          “Also, I am not a commie.”

          You’re a Major Moonbat at the very least!

        • Fyrfighter says:

          Of course you support BLM whose leaders have openly declared that they are “trained marxists”, and their “manifesto” (hows that for commie?” clearly lays out that they support a communist agenda, so I guess that means you’re just a useful idiot/ communist sympathizer, not an actual commie… Distinction without a difference???

          • Commissar says:

            I said I consider myself an ally with respect to law enforcement reform. We desperately need law enforcement reform in this country,

            I don’t think anyone who opposes law enforcement reform can claim to be an advocate of “small government” without sounding like a liar or a moron.

            I also said I would never join or regard myself as a member of BLM because of the stupid crap they often claim to stand for, and for some of the stupid crap they do and say.

            And there is a difference between someone who is a Marxist and someone who takes a Marxist perspective of social issues. A Marxist believes and champions actual Marxist solutions to problems; in line with Marx’s teleological roadmap for the fall of capitalism.

            A Marxist perspective merely means you see much of the political economy from the perspective of a framework of class power and how wealth and privilege generates a system that protects the wealthy and privileged at the cost of lower classes ; particularly working classes and then uses a framework of “othering” to blame immigrants and out groups for the failures of the political economy to insulate the wealthy and powerful from accountability, consequences, and genuine challenges to the power structures.

            Someone with a Marxist perspective on the problem does not necessarily mean they support a Marxist solution.

            Marx is famous as a political economy theorist for seeing the inevitable problems of capitalism and predicting some of the consequences.

            He was dead wrong about the solutions.

            Let me make that clear; he was dead wrong about the solutions. Communism is bullshit, in theory and in practice.

            Many top political economic theorists adopt a Marxist perspective to problems, at least initially, to help frame and identify the insidiousness of structures intended to protect those with wealth and power from challenges to their wealth and power. Whether those challenges be in politics, in the justice system, or in the economic marketplace.

            So when I have conversations with BLM activists I usually agree with their anger and frustration at the problems they are struggling with in society.

            But I rarely agree with their solutions.

            • SFC D says:

              You don’t get law enforcement reform via violence and riots. That gets you more police and more of what you’re protesting. You instigate the very thing you don’t want. And that’s a fail by anyone’s standards.

            • Anonymous says:

              When you don’t allow cops moral agency (as progressives favor) and reward their bad behavior by letting them skate with “my training kicked in” and “talk to my union rep,” a serious need for reform is what you get.

              For some reason, liberals (especially in Blue State sh*thole cities) want cops to be only non-thinking thugs who do what or beat whom they’re told… and then blame Trump when bad things happen.

    • RetiredDevilDoc8404 says:

      Dingus,

      Hopkinton, Franklin and Shrewsbury are not cities they are towns. Shrewsbury is the only one that borders a city. Might want to QC or at least check your geography before you look like the idiot you are. Of course since you are the one who needs a reminder to breathe I’m not surprised.

      • Commissar says:

        They are listed as cities by the survey. I used the same source for both most violent and safest.

        Otherwise I would deal with methodological differences that would make the comparison less valid.

        They used the same population include a “city” in the ranking for the safest as they did for the most dangerous.

        So my post is valid.

        And the fact that it included low population “town” should have helped your case because high population areas are much more likely to be led by a democrat. While lower population towns tend to be more likely to be led by republicans.

    • Hondo says:

      Hmm. The FBI seems to say something different, Commissar. Here’s what the FBI says were the top 10 cities (population 250k or more) with respect to violent crime RATE (e.g., the number of violent crimes per 100k population) in 2018.

      1. Detroit, MI
      2. Memphis, TN
      3. Baltimore, MD
      4. St Louis, MO
      5. Kansas City, MO
      6. Cleveland, OH
      7. Milwaukee, WI
      8. Stockton, CA
      9. Albuquerque, NM
      10. Anchorage, AK

      The FBI’s list is very different than yours – over half of the cities on the two lists are different, and none of them are ranked in the same place on both lists.

      Perhaps you should call the FBI and bring to their attention that they’re wrong in Table 2 of this report (found on the 4th page of same) that they published in January 2020. After all, that would be a good citizen’s duty – and the FBI can’t possibly be right. We all know you’re “infallible”, and you have Anchorage in 1st place and Detroit 6th; the FBI has Detroit 1st and Anchorage 10th:

      https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/oklelc18.pdf

      FWIW: all 10 of the cities (population 250k or more) the FBI says have the highest current violent crime rates (2018 data, the latest they’ve published) have mayors from the Democratic party.

      You know, if they didn’t know you were “infallible” . . . someone reading this just might begin to think you’re full of it.

      • UpNorth says:

        Aaaand, Hondo once again figuratively slaps the shit out of the Commie. Well done, and so easily. I can’t believe that he tried to post that crap that he did, without knowing it’d be fact-checked.

    • Hondo says:

      There hasn’t been a socialist mayor in the US, other than Bernie Sanders, since 1960.

      Bernie may call himself a “Socialist”, and in reality he is. (If he;s not an outright Communist; “Bernie the Commie” really has a nice ring to it, doesn’t it?) But he doesn’t have the balls to run for office openly as a Socialist.

      Since he left the Liberty Union Party in 1977, Sanders has run as an Independent in every general election in which he’s participated. That includes every time he ran for and was elected Mayor of Burlington, and every time since 1977 he’s run for office statewide in Vermont.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_history_of_Bernie_Sanders

  5. HMCS(FMF) ret says:

    Here’s the info on the app that the “peaceful protesters” are using… and it’s unsecure:

    https://arstechnica.com/features/2020/08/bridgefy-the-app-promoted-for-mass-protests-is-a-privacy-disaster/

    Nah, they’re not organized…

    • Commissar says:

      Using an app does make them “organized”.

      People use apps for everything these days.

      Your boomer Luddite view on apps is why you think using one makes a group “organized”.

      • HMCS(FMF) ret says:

        It’s a tool for communicating and has been used by your butt buddies to communicate.

        You can;t get away from the narrative that these are organized riots… and have been from the start.

        Pull you head out from your communist ass and see what’s happening, Luddite

  6. 5th/77th FA says:

    We need to use every law we have on the books AND whatever else it takes, to end the mostly non peaceful riots that are destroying public/private property and endangering the truly peaceful citizens that just want to go about their business…peacefully. Using the actions of dumbass crooks that come into contact with dumbass cops to do widespread destruction to people or objects that had nothing at all to do with said actions.

    Again, when the po po doesn’t do whatever they think they have to do when confronted by a known criminal and said criminal kills or injures an innocent bystander (maybe the 3 kids in the car in this case), then…what? Damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

    The only surprise from the BS that the spapos seagull is spewing is he has yet to blame Trump, and screech out…”ORANGE MAN BAD!” But, then again, the day is young. Mommy musta woke him up early today. Is Tuesday’s clean sheets day?

    • Commissar says:

      “We need to use every law we have on the books AND whatever else it takes…”

      “And whatever else it takes….“

      Yep, spoken like the typical person who claims to be a “small government” conservative.

      You got the conservative part right.

      Classical conservatism literally and explicitly argues that the government should be empowered to “do whatever it takes” to maintain order.

      That is genuinely the primary argument of classical conservatism.

      And you just made it.

      Classical conservatism is the opposite of small government.

      It advocates the sovereign having any and all power necessary to do whatever it takes to maintain order and make the nation as strong as possible.

      Which is exactly what Trump supporters want.

      And clearly what you want.

      A Leviathan rooted in the White House It’s tentacles stretching across the nation doing “whatever it takes”…

      No wonder you see anti-fascists as an enemy,

      • SFC D says:

        You actually see ANTIFA as anti-fascist. I can call a turd a cupcake, doesn’t make it a cupcake.

      • 5th/77th FA says:

        Bite me bitch. These are thugs, punks, and home grown terrorists. Their right to peaceful protest ended when it wasn’t peaceful anymore. I don’t give a rat’s azz if your’re blm, pantifa, kkk, dnc, or the rnc, you go to threatening me and mine, banging on my vehicle, impeding my progress, burning my business, or whatever, I will aggressively defend what is mine, and THEN use the law to sue the shit out of you AND your buddies. I didn’t start no shit with you or them, but if you Marxist, Socialist,communist, cocksuckerist,whatever mofos want a war, you gonna get one.

        You and your blm, pantifa bitches are so blinded by the narrative of ORANGE MAN BAD, you cannot realize that, in the grand scheme of things, despite its warts, Americans have done more to have justice thru out the world than anyone else. Africans and Arabians are still enslaving one another, Asians would castrate Africans before they could be imported, and Blacks kill WAY YONDER more Blacks every year than are killed by the police. What does your empirical data give for the total number of Blacks killed by Blacks just in Chitcongo so far this year? And the police actually kill more white boys every year than they do Blacks.

        We all know you just show up here to spew your BS, just because you can. You will never convert anyone here to your way of thinking, you bring nothing positive to the conversation, you are nothing be a royal pain in the ass, sissy punk asinine piece of shit. If you hate us so much, why don’t you just leave and not come back? Oh I forgot, you won’t get your Soros Bucks if you don’t show up on a regular basis.

        Mommy called, she has your sheets changed and her and the UPS driver just made up a fresh cream pie for your lunch. She said come eat it while it’s still hot.

  7. The Other Whitey says:

    I’m worried that these cocksuckers won’t be stopped by prosecution. Too many of them have become fanatical, to the point that they feel perfectly justified in violence against random innocent people, and they have been emboldened by the lack of enforcement from these self-serving empty-suit democrat mayors and city councilmen. I’m worried that we’ve passed the point where the only remaining solution is to put the rioters down for good. I don’t mean arrests, I mean shooting these cocksuckers en masse.

    I really hope I’m wrong, but I just don’t see the rioters, looters, murderers, and other assorted shitbags, be they fascist or anarchist, stopping. They have been escalating, and will continue to escalate. They want civil war, and have demonstrated that they intend to fight it via terrorism. I have no doubt about how that will turn out, as they are few in number, and mostly not proficient with weapons, but they will try to harm as many people as they can in the name of their “cause” before they are destroyed. This is something I dread, but I also wish that if it must happen, we get it over with now, so that my children can grow up and live their lives without this manufactured strife.

    I really hope that I am wrong, and that this fuckery can be solved without stacking bodies and piling brass.

    • rgr769 says:

      That’s why God made hollow points. They are usually effective to terminate terminally stupid feral pavement predators.

  8. KoB says:

    A new video that shows a different angle with an ongoing struggle with our boy in WI.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/jacob-blake-struggling-police-officersshot-new-video-shows

  9. RetiredDevilDoc8404 says:

    Dingus,

    Hopkinton, Franklin and Shrewsbury are not cities they are towns. Shrewsbury is the only one that borders a city. Might want to QC or at least check your geography before you look like the idiot you are. Of course since you are the one who needs a reminder to breathe I’m not surprised.