FYI re: USPS Legislation

| August 23, 2020

This is in regard to the August 22, 2020, Saturday vote by the House of Representatives on bill funding the USPS for absentee ballot issues.

As it happens, not all Representatives were present and asked people to vote for them by proxy.

Currently, the US Post Office has a surplus of $11 billion, as reported yesterday on the news. The House of Reps voted yesterday to pass a $25 billion funding bill to “assist” with handling of absentee ballots. That is Bill # HR 8015.

If the USPS does have the reported surplus, what is the real problem here?

Apparently, Representative Pelosi has forgotten the rules that govern passing legislation in the US  Congress, so a little refresher is advisable. Her rush to get this passed appears to be a way to “defy Trump”, a ridiculous thing to do when the steps to pass Congressional legislation are reviewed.  https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/the-legislative-branch/#:~:text=A%20bill%20must%20pass%20both,of%20members%20from%20both%20chambers.

For anyone who didn’t have to study the US Constitution in high school in order to graduate, I pity you, but here you go.

The rules of legislation are simple:  If a bill is passed in the House of Representatives, it must go to the Senate for the Senate to vote on it.

If it does not pass the Senate’s vote, it dies. Period.

Yes, that is the law.

If the Senate passes a law of its own that is similar to the House bill, but with some differences, these two bills go to Conference Committee to bring them into alignment, before they go to the White House.

Neither the House bill nor the Senate bill automatically goes to the President for signature.

Both of them are required to go through these steps.

Here is the precise wording:

A bill must pass both houses of Congress before it goes to the President for consideration. Though the Constitution requires that the two bills have the exact same wording, this rarely happens in practice. To bring the bills into alignment, a Conference Committee is convened, consisting of members from both chambers. –  White House.gov article

Once the bills are in alignment, the final text is then enrolled by the Clerk of the House or the Secretary of the Senate, depending on where the legislation originated. The final bill is then sent to the President for signature.

The secondary part of this is as follows:

When receiving a bill from Congress, the President has several options. If the President agrees substantially with the bill, he or she may sign it into law, and the bill is then printed in the Statutes at Large. If the President believes the law to be bad policy, he may veto it and send it back to Congress. Congress may override the veto with a two-thirds vote of each chamber, at which point the bill becomes law and is printed. – White House . gov article

And as indicated by the term “Congress”, the vote involves both the House and the Senate, period.

I hope that it’s now clear that in her haste to establish herself as Da Boss of It All, Representative Pelosi has run roughshod over voters with this actioni, and has likewise blatantly ignored the real issues at hand.  These include unemployment compensation at the federal level. At the state levels, it is a mixed bag that is not working well.

I’m not hurting for anything right now, but I do know people who are in that pickle. My next door neighbor is one of them.

Putting this crass, ego-driven nonsense ahead of the welfare of the people of this country – people who can and will vote – is as despicable as you can get, but this is where the Democrats seem to be heading.

 

 

 

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STSC(SW/SS)

Pelosi doesn’t give a damn about the people who are hurting. She just wants to push this postal hoax to change the narrative of her incompetence. Also it allows her to get more money in the hands of the Postal Union in which they will give to the DNC.

UpNorth

Rep. James Clyburn D-Idiocy said yesterday that the bill had to be passed so that veterans and Social Security recipients could get their checks in the mail. I guess no one told him about direct deposit.
So, Clyburn joins Hank Johnson D-Guam Tips Over as a proud example of the idiocy rampant in the dem party,

Mason

Anything to make people scared. Vote for me or you WILL DIE in 12 years!

Roh-Dog

The Speaker was bitching about how the Post Office was a ‘Constitutionally mandated’ institution…
And yet she can not be bothered to read the BoR, specifically Amendment 2, or that part about “The Congress shall have Power…To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures” in Article 1, Section 8. She seems more than ok to pawn that responsibility off to an non-governmental agency, and permit it to go unaudited. (HT to Ex’s earlier article!)
Either you follow the Constitution, or you F*** thyself.

gitarcarver

Currently, the US Post Office has a surplus of $11 billion, as reported yesterday on the news.

I am not sure that is a correct statement.

In 2019, the USPS ran an almost $9 billion dollar operating lost and a $71.5 deficit when including health and retirement benefits.

Source: https://about.usps.com/what/financials/annual-reports/fy2019.pdf (page 15)

Through 2018, the GAO says:

Poor financial situation: USPS’s overall financial condition is deteriorating and unsustainable. USPS has lost $69 billion over the past 11 fiscal years—including $3.9 billion in fiscal year 2018. USPS’s total unfunded liabilities and debt ($143 billion at the end of fiscal year 2018) have grown to double its annual revenue.
Insufficient cost savings: The savings from USPS cost-reduction efforts have dwindled in recent years. Although USPS has stated that it will aggressively reduce costs within its control, its plans will not achieve the kind of savings necessary to significantly reduce current operating costs.
Unfavorable trends: USPS’s expenses are now growing faster than its revenues—partly due to rising compensation and benefits costs and continuing declines in the volume of First-Class Mail.

source: https://www.gao.gov/key_issues/us_postal_service_financial_viability/issue_summary#summary

gitarcarver

That figure came from a report referenced online, but I’ve gone and looked back at it again: the actual figure was a surplus of $8.3 billion in April 2019.

That’s incorrect.

Fist quarter losses: $748 million
https://about.usps.com/newsroom/national-releases/2020/0206-usps-reports-first-quarter-fiscal-2020-results.htm

Second quarter losses: $4,515 billion
https://about.usps.com/newsroom/national-releases/2020/0508-usps-reports-second-quarter-fiscal-2020-results.htm

Third quarter loss: $2,210 billion.
(can’t list the source as the post will be flagged for too many links, but the source is still the post offices own figures.)

As noted in the GAO report, the USPS has not turned anything close to a profit in 13 years which means it is impossible to have a surplus and why it has asked for Federal money every year.

Poetrooper

Carver, $4,515 billion equals 4.515 trillion and $2,210 billion equals 2.21 trillion.

I don’t think that’s what you meant…

gitarcarver

Sorry, but a loan is not an asset.

Furthermore, the money still doesn’t cover the pensions and health benefits as required by the 2006 Postal Bill.

Even the article says ” …and receive a crucial injection of cash that postal officials say will keep the debt-laden agency solvent for at least another year, according to a copy of the loan’s term sheet obtained by The Washington Post.

And…

<i.The loan deal requires the USPS to provide Treasury with monthly and quarterly financial and volume reports. It also must spend any money it draws from the loan within 30 days and cannot access any of the funds if it has a cash balance of more than $8 billion. The funding expires in March 2022.

If they have $11 billion on hand, they are already out of the terms of the loan.

OlafTheTanker

“$25 billion funding bill to ‘assist’ with handling of absentee ballots”

I’m not buying that the USPS needs 25 BILLION to be able to handle 1 extra letter from everyone who votes.

If all ~350 MILLION Americans (man woman and child) accounted for in the last census voted by mail, that would stil total up to over $70 dollars per ballot mailed on top of the cost of the stamp.
Yet somehow my mailbox still gets stuffed with ~5 pounds of junk mail per week that goes right in the recycle bin.

Poetrooper

She was probably drunk…

NHSparky

Better example: Assuming all eligible voters (~200 million) shipped their ballots in on the same day, it would be about 40 percent of the daily USPS volume, or about 15 percent of holiday volume.

Suck it, Pelosi.

Mason

They’d have to tell Bezos that his packages have to wait a day.

NHSparky

Screw it. Start charging the bulk/junk mail idiots the going rate.

Problem solved.

5th/77th FA

The latest skam from the Skrunt. They already got the ballots they think they need ratholed and stashed at various and sundry poll workers homes. They got caught with their britches down in ’16 and didn’t calculate the number of real voters would come out for Trump. It is the full intention of the demonrat party to steal this election in anyway they can.

They are not after Trump…They are after us, he’s just in the way.

Roh-Dog

Wait a tic there Redleg, they’re after us?!
They afters ME?!?
….
I’m starting to think them’s none too bright, I ain’t see ‘em out there in the woods cour’ing Toms, picking off squirrels in the acorn trees, hell! I’d be willing to bet not a single one of them will take the glint off them buttons on their g-suits whens they comesin’ after.
It’d been a damn shame putting .3 inch holes in those fine wool coats at a half mile, but we’s didn’t start no mess.

5th/77th FA

Yepper, WEEZ/USENZ, meez, yuuz, and yo Mama and ’em. They got the free sh^t army folk in their back pocket, giving them just enough over the years to keep them on their plantation so they don’t have to work, and let them run their scams on one another to keep the hustle going. The elites are behind their walls with the armed security that you and I pay for and they collect their taxes automatically from your boss before you get paid. The FIRST Law of fermenting discontent is to stir the sections of the population against one another. They are organized despite what the seagull says, we the true Patriots are not. And they know that. The suppression of a population is really not that hard, history is replete with examples, and each one begins with pitting one group against another. It is very odd that just a few years ago, Trump was the buddy of everybody that seems to hate him now. And why is that? He pointed out to the American people that the swamp was real, the working class had been scammed along with the institutionalized poor. This is not something that just started in the past 3-4 years. What we are seeing today is a culmination of years worth of planning that got upset when a certain person didn’t get “her turn.” Most of the men and women that saved the world from Big Brother are dead, their children have gotten almost too old and overtaxed to resist, and their grand children have been indoctrinated by the state run schools. Pisses me off. Jimmuh Carter was their FIRST surprise back in ’76. The expected demonrat was supposed to be a murdering rapist. Since he couldn’t be elected they sent him back to the Senate and Lionized him. In the meantime, threw every impediment imaginable in front of Carter, f’cked the economy to boot to defeat him and allow Reagan to run. Bush the oneth was supposed to keep Ronnie R in line. Folks forget that Bush 1st was a deep stater CIA grubmint mole before… Read more »

Roh-Dog

I got a bunch of seed beans we can have with that toast.
They can come get it, if they wanna, but I’m de-ter-mined to makes em not a’wanna.

Let’s pray for His guidance, wisdom and protection in these darkenin’ times.
Anna that fails, see you on the high ground, Reb.

5th/77th FA

I’ll be waiting on you Brother, guns laid and fields of fire cleared.

Sparks

Five words to help the USPS”

“Get rid of the union”.

HMCS(FMF) ret

My sister (a USPS employee) agrees with you, Sparks.

Poetrooper

If the Democrats could get total control of all three branches of government, they’d unionize the military…

26Limabeans

And the VA……oh, wait….nevermind.

Anonymous

No-good Democrat BS…

26Limabeans

People should be seen voting in person even if they have to be
wheeled in while sick in a hospital bed sporting an IV and O2 tank.

Screw this post office BS and spend the money to accomodate real
in person voting for those that need it. I don’t mind absentee
voting for those that truly need it but mail in voting enmasse
is a non starter for obvious reasons.

If you are too lazy to show up and demostrate your freedom for
all to see then you don’t belong here anyway.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Something more on how the USPS does business – how they do accounting and financing employee health care:

https://rantburg.com/poparticle.php?D=08/25/2020&SO=&HC=3&ID=580504