Can You Legally Carry a Firearm on a Military Base?
In the wake of mass shootings, including multiple active-shooter incidents on military installations, some might be wondering when they can openly carry or have a concealed weapon on base.
The answer is probably never, according to typical military base rules. But that might not be true for all current and former troops, depending on the base.
Is sanity breaking out? Hardly, but there may be glimmerings of hope.
Poetrooper sends.
New Policy Allows Private Firearms on Wright-Patterson Air Force Base
By Thomas Gnau
A new policy will allow Wright-Patterson Air Force Base personnel to request permission to transport licensed firearms to and from the base.Holders of a Federal Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act permit, Ohio concealed carry permit, or another state’s concealed carry permit that has a reciprocity with the state of Ohio, will be authorized on approval to transport secured, privately owned firearms in their privately owned vehicles, the base said Tuesday.
“We recognized that part of the population here was interested in seeing a change in our policy when it came to the transport of privately owned firearms on the installation,” Maj. Julie Roloson, 88th Security Forces Squadron commander, said in a release. “After much careful analysis, we established appropriate procedures to satisfy that intent without sacrificing the safety and security of the base.”
To be eligible, individuals must have a valid CCW permit, a valid Department of Defense ID card to include Common Access Cards, and must be either be active duty, Reserve, Guard, retired military, dependents 21 years or older and DoD civilian employees.
Why a retiree needs a CAC is beyond me, but I’ll support any policy that increases our troops safety and security while transiting on and off base. Anyone having questions should simply visit the campus of the Office of Naval Intelligence located in lovely Suitland, MD.
Read the entire article here: Military News
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I think I broke the rules, a couple times.
Could that mean a CAC is one of the acceptable government IDs? (After my time, never seen one.)
Ironic that the pictured 1911-A1 has a flat mainspring housing… the raised mainspring housing was one of the principle changes between the 1911 and the A1.
I read “a valid Department of Defense ID card to include Common Access Cards” to mean that you could use any DoD ID, including a CAC. This is odd, because it’s the standard active duty ID (and other civilian work force) ID. Why call it out, specifically?
At a base in South Carolina, they recently did a similar thing. There were a number of requirements to include registering your weapons on post. They required a supervisors signature (even if you were a retiree or contractor), or they would not accept some of the forms.
This basically allowed you to keep the weapon in your vehicle without getting in to trouble when you get searched at the gate. You still can not carry on post.
Yeah.
Just carry it and keep you mouth shut.
Don’t ask, don’t tell.
Its the idiots that make a big deal about it that screw it up.
Yeah. Lets tell everyone I am carrying… I want to be cool and flaunt my 2nd Amendment Right. Just go under the fucking radar. Ain’t rocket science.
That’s the dude that you shoot first.
What true engineer doesn’t?
Never could quite get my head wrapped around that whole “no Soldiers with privately owned weapons” thing. Don’t rightly recall what the regs on it were way back yonder, but it wasn’t really enforced where I was. This action seems to be a real good start in a good idea whose time is past due coming.
Just had to put that damn drop dead gorgeous example of his most Saintly JMB (Howitzer be his name) work…didn’t ya? Didn’t ya!!! Imma glad ya did and we, ah Thank ya…Thank ya veerra much!
“Never could quite get my head wrapped around that whole “no Soldiers with privately owned weapons” thing.”
Me either.
You used to just be able to check it in the Arms Room if you lived on post.
That is the way it was at Ft. Devens, MA in the 1970’s.
In fact, all privately owned firearms on post had to be stored in unit arms rooms.
Yeah, our unit armorer had a Class III license. He had more of his own personal weapons in the Armory than unit weapons. Keep in mind that this was an HHC for a Ranger Battalion in the 1990s we had a number of foreign weapons we trained on and they were all maintained in the HHC Arms Room.
In the early ’70s, I served in an aviation company at Ft. Wainwright, Alaska. I lived in the barracks. A fair amount of us barracks rats owned rifles, pistols, and revolvers for weekend hunting, target shooting, or just because we could. We kept them locked up in our wall lockers. The 1SG, PSGs, and CO were OK with firearms in the barracks. I remember a room inspection where the CO asked my roommate how like his Weatherby. If I recall correctly, when a soldier went on leave to the lower 48, his weapons had to go to the arms room.
Ft. Wainwright was my first assignment to a unit, so I assumed keeping weapons in the barracks was OK. Turned out not to be the case when I served in Germany. Those were different times.
I know overseas in the AF we would have to have a Firearms Retention letter (AE Form 190-6A Firearms Retention Authorization) approved by your Commander to keep arms in your quarters. Dorm-Rats had to keep them in the armory.
Stateside, I’m a little confused some bases require approval and some don’t. When I got to Columbus AFB, Miss my guns were kept at the armory until I moved into base housing, don’t recall needing approval. If you reside on base all weapons must be registered with Security Police in the Air Force, just so they know what’s in your house. Plus your Commander can order you to store your weapons at the armory if there has been a Domestic Violence accusation made or for other reasons.
Most bases don’t allow you to conceal carry or carry a gun in your vehicle. Sure most of us get away with it, until that one day your vehicle is searched and there it is. While I have a CCL, I also have a gun in the glovebox that I have to remember to take out when I have business on base. Unless Tyndall, Eglin, and Hurlburt allow it, I don’t want to tempt fate.
They left out 100% disabled vets with ID cards for the BX.
No problem, they can still carry and keep there mouth shut
just like everyone else does anyway. Who gonna know?
Here’s what never made sense to me. The people who are ASKING for permission to carry on base are not the ones who would shoot up the place. The ones that DO want to shoot up the place don’t give a damn about rules saying you can’t carry on base.
Perhaps Nidal Hassan (that piece of fucking hagfish shit) just didn’t see the “no concealed handguns” signs on his way into base that day. If he had, I bet he would have stopped and said, “Oh, well, I guess I’ll have to shoot them off base. . .” A whole lot of other people DID see those signs – and died for it.
Funny how people about to commit multiple felonies with a firearm seem unconcerned about gun control laws. I guess we would need a psychiatrist with a lawer degree to explain to us why that is. Cuz the average person just can’t solve this puzzle of human behavior.
It is quite the puzzle. . .
You run the risk of losing your rights to own and carry a gun if you ever have to use your weapon to defend yourself. Which will be a federal felony.
That is why I was going to jump through the hoops and register my weapon (that I carry) on post, but then they wanted a supervisor signature which I am the senior person on post for my company.
MacDill AFB has your basic “No guns allowed” signage at the entry gates with a law enforcement exception noted. The commissary has “no firearms allowed” signage posted at the entrance. Good to know that there will never be a shootout in the vegetable aisle.
Yep. Same here in my AOR. Good to know the produce isle is a ‘safe haven’.
I’m thinking /sark is not necessary…
Here at Selfridge ANGB, Michigan, concealed carry is permitted except in those areas that are flagged for no firearms. As a retiree, I never see those flagged areas. Since I retired back home in 2000, the only incidents have been a couple people shot dead for running the gate. No firearms incidents that II am aware of.
I work at the largest military installation in our state. We have people that come from 26 surrounding counties, and even the next state over, to work here, traveling up to 100 miles each way. A lot of bad can happen in those miles. I never understood why they restrict guns on government installations, especially for long distance travelers.
I always thought about opening a business that has lockers for guns, for people that work on federal installations or truckers that deliver. The problem is you get regulated like a gun store, and would have to be open 24hrs, so finding people to work there can be a problem.