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| July 2, 2020


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.405 Winchester

Man fatally shot in apparent case of self-defense in Moreno Valley

In an apparent case of self-defense, a man was fatally shot during a family disturbance in Moreno Valley on Sunday morning, officials said.

Deputies arrived at 1:15 a.m. to a home in the 23700 block of Blackbird Circle to a report of a family altercation, the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department said.

“An estranged family (member) arrived at the location and broke into the residence while threatening to cause harm to the occupants,” a sheriff’s statement said. “The occupants confronted the estranged family member who became hostile. During the altercation, a resident used a firearm against the assailant.”

Deputies found Cesar Acosta, 43, of Moreno Valley suffering from a gunshot wound. He was taken by paramedics to a hospital, where he was later pronounced dead.

“At this point, the shooting appears to have been done in self-defense,” the sheriff’s statement said.

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Read the rest here: Press Enterprise

Police identify man described as armed intruder killed at Springfield home

SPRINGFIELD, Mo. — Police identified a man, described as an armed intruder, shot and killed at a home in north Springfield late Friday night.

Officers responded to the 2400 block of North Fremont around 10:30 p.m.

Investigators say Kenneth L. Clay, 36, of Springfield tried to enter the home of David R. Jones, 18. Jones told investigators Clay shot him in the foot. He then shot Clay with his own firearm, killing him.

Investigators say no arrests have been made.

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Read the rest here: KY3

Parent shoots son during North Freedom home invasion
By: Bridget Cooke

Parents in North Freedom were forced to protect themselves by firing a gun at their son, who allegedly shot in the windows of their home and went into the house with his own weapon, according to a press release from Sauk County Sheriff Chip Meister.

At about 3:45 a.m. Monday, deputies responded to a call from one of the parents at 113 South Oak Street. Dispatch officers were told the intruder and homeowner were shooting at one another. When they arrived, officers saw the shot-out windows. They deduced the man had shot out a side patio door to get into the house from a deck facing Willow Street.

Deputies found the son on the ground with numerous gunshot wounds and the parents uninjured in the home when they arrived, according to the release.

Initial investigation showed that the unnamed 37-year-old son came to the home and began shooting out windows to try to get into the residence. Windows were smashed in and bullet holes lined the siding of the building. The parents went to the basement as the man made his way into the home and “fired numerous rounds inside” which prompted him to reload the weapon.

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Read the rest here: Wisconsin News

Another teaser for Wilted Willy, Delta Whiskies and Whiskettes. Patience, WW.
*grin*

“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.”
– Jeff Cooper, Art of the Rifle

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26Limabeans

From the link:

“Interestingly enough, the .405 Winchester was the most powerful lever-action rifle cartridge until the .444 Marlin came along over 50 years later”

I am not impressed with my .444 Marlin on Moose.
The original RM44 ammo is too light.
Other available ammo though is much better.

Did not get a permit in the lottery this year. Bah.

5th/77th FA

Sympathies for missing the lotto ‘beans. A full growed moose beast in the freezerator woulda made a many of a Thursdays are for cooking thread. Took me a minute to get to this point, the linky on the TR .405 Winchester; a Big Stick in its own right. Once again, a most glorious design of the Saintly JMB (HBHN). I think the author of the linky meant to say that it was the FIRST of the lever action box magazine designs that Winchester did. He admitted he jumped the gun on that. It also took me a minute to confirm that the Acosta story was FIRST shown on the Tuesday FGS. I thought it was deja vu all over again. Me thinks that Bro ‘Ed may have his mind on the Mrs…or maybe the PT Girl.

Sad when a parent has to take out their own child. Can’t wait til they’re an adult to instil a little respect and discipline. No winners at all in that.

Springfield MO and the name of Clay (County) brings to mind the place I’d have been visiting today. Lady Friend is related to the feller that lived at this place. Lot’s to see and do in St. Jo! DAAAAAAAAMMN IIIITT!!!!

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David

Biggest problem for the .444 is that it used essentially pistol bullets – it’s an overpowered .44 Magnum. A .45-70 may have a rainbow trajectory but its big slow bullet will go through a moose or buffalo, with lower recoil. And it came out in 1873! Sometimes bigger and slower beats lighter and faster.

26Limabeans

Yes, the RM44 bullet is a 240 grain .44 mag.
The Hornady LeverRevolution stuff is heavier but
the polymer tip is a no go with “microgroove”
rifling so that leaves Buffalo Bore 300 grain as
a good choice.

The best setup is hand loaded hard cast lead
with a slightly larger dia than the .44mag at .429

Yeah, the .45-70 would be my choice. Friend has taken
two moose with one and got a permit for this year. Bah.
I took one with a Ruger number one falling block
in 7mmm Mag back in the nineties. Very nice rifle.
Also took one with a Savage 99E in .308
Not this year. Bah.

11B-Mailclerk

If you feel the need for a thumper:

Marlin lever-gun in .450 Marlin. It is a “belted magnum” and much-hotter version of the .45-70. It can also be fed either.

McCann Industries used to make a customized M-1 Garand – in .458 Winchester Magnum. Yowza.

Either is suitable for fighting hordes of Earth-invading Kzinti or Fithip.

Wilted Willy

Oh Please!! Come on people, let’s put some serious time in at the range!!! You need to go and shoot off at least 100 rounds and get your weapon sighted in properly!! I am tired of all of these wounded, let’s get a KIA
Now get your ass to the range!!!
Willy
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Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH B Woodman

WW,
I think a lot of these wounded isn’t a case of missing, but of stopping shooting one round too soon.

Wilted Willy

They need bigger clips then, how about a 40 round one like I have for my AK-47?

11B-Mailclerk