Frank Joseph Visconi, according to Scotty, had a perfectly honorable career in the Vietnam War as a supply clerk and he was honorably discharged as a sergeant with the following DD214;
With the following rack;
But, that wasn’t good enough when he became the Sr. Vice Commandant of Marine Corps League Chapter #603 – James McCutchen Detachment in Clarksville, TN. The he joined the “Together We Served” website and decided that his rack needed some punching up;
Somewhere along the way, he got himself some certificates for a Bronze Star Medal for Valor and a Purple Heart that he also posted. When people started questioning him, he simply took down his profile and dashed. At Scotty’s he has two DD215s which correct his social security number and some unit commendations. Neither of the DD215s mention two Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star or a Combat Action Ribbon.
The story about the rank difference is a good one, too, better when told by Scotty, so shoot over and visit him.
Category: Phony soldiers
Oddest PH citations I ever saw. As far as the polygraphs go, passing those proves nothing. Polygraphs are notoriously inaccurate. John, please, please, please get a poster made for this guy. I’m not raiding on WoW next week and NEED something to do.
I find it very interesting that three different people have very interestingly similar handwriting styles. I might be wrong, but I smell bull**** on it.
How about the fact that the same pen was used on the SSgt warrant, PH, BS, and his discharge………….?
I looked the stuff over. He had a rash in VN. He knew people (including Army personnel) who received awards. One of them, barely legible, has a file name of Medal of Honor. I do NOT see any Purple Heart docs FOR HIM but there is one for another fellow, a soldier, that was processed years after the wound was incurred. This must have been proof positive for Francis of “See, I’m not the only one” when he made his PH claim. In other words, accepting the material, Francis wants us to apply to him what applied to another. No, can’t do that, Francis. Can’t do it. You had a rash and you claim a punji stick wound. The soldier had a bullet wound that may or may not have had sufficient documentation to support it. YOU HAVE NONE.
Got a rash around my waist line when unloading the ship in the heat and damp weather in May. I am not claiming a PH for that. Just said that I went to the aid station and they gave me ointment for it. It’s NOT on my record. Second trip to the aid station, I stepped on a broken pallet and a rusty nail protruded trough my boot and into my right arch. Got tetanus shot for that. Not on my records. Not claiming PH for that either. How you dipshits can twist things around to make it your words just amazes me. Wound in June, punji stick. Treated by corpsman. they keep a log. Can’t find the corpsman IF he is still alive. Second wound a surface wound while carrying a wounded Marine off the field to the helicopter in Starlite. What is so fricking hard to believe about that? Twist it however you want to satisfy your ego that you are always right and everyone else is wrong. Just quit twisting everything I say. You guys are ruthless (besides being know-it-all stupid asses.
What was that? Frankie please answer my questions about the helos. Jonn, frankie is lyning about his first insert. No helos with skids inserted Marines in 65 or 66. I was on 4 ships and can name every one of them. If he sent the docs, check for flight orders and aerial gunnery school. Joe
Francis: Here you go, you sonofabitch. I capitalized some of the Purple Heart material for you, some of which may or may not apply to you. I really can’t say without an official record. Also, I don’t see anywhere that anyone at any time is authorized to issue HIMSELF a Purple Heart. I guess such a provision exists or you would not have issued yourself a Purple Heart. Please provide the citation to the law or rule so that I can confirm. Thanks. Oh, did I say you are a sonofabitch? 10 USC 1131, et seq. (c) While clearly an individual decoration, the Purple Heart differs from all other decorations in that an individual is not “recommended” for the decoration; rather he or she is entitled to it upon meeting specific criteria. […] (e) A wound is defined as an injury to any part of the body from an outside force or agent sustained under one or more of the conditions listed above. A physical lesion is not required, however, the wound for which the award is made must have required treatment by medical personnel and RECORDS OF MEDICAL TREATMENT [Caps added] for wounds or injuries received in action MUST [Caps added] have been made a matter of OFFICIAL RECORD [Caps added]. (f) When contemplating an award of this decoration, the key issue that commanders must take into consideration is the degree to which the enemy caused the injury. The fact that the proposed recipient was participating in direct or indirect combat operations is a necessary prerequisite, but is NOT [Caps added] sole justification for award. (h) Examples of injuries or wounds which clearly do not justify award of the Purple Heart are as follows: (1) Frostbite or trench foot injuries. (2) Heat stroke. (3) Food poisoning not caused by enemy agents. (4) Chemical, biological, or nuclear agents not released by the enemy. (5) Battle fatigue. (6) Disease not directly caused by enemy agents. (7) ACCIDENTS [Caps added], to include explosive, aircraft, vehicular, and other accidental wounding not related to or caused by enemy action. (8) SELF-INFLICTED [Caps added] wounds,… Read more »
I’m just going to stick my oar in on this and say that if I wanted to be taken seriously, I’d send something that showed I was actually there and what I did. Maybe even a request for a new ID card, due to promotion to E-5. I’d ship that off to Jonn first.
And if I have pieces of my service jacket missing for whatever reason, I’d ask the BCNR people to send me certified replacement copies, because that’s a backup.
I say this, because when I re-enlisted after college, I was asked by the PN at the Personnel office if I still had my service record, but if I didn’t, they could get copies of it.
It’s that simple. Even our resident phony CPO(Hon) Bernath has that.
This polka-dotted clowndog hasn’t provided anything like that to support his claim.
This is ridiculous. No one gives a carp’s crap about a flood in someone’s basement. That is not proof, sport.
The hippie photos are intersting, though.
Because the pinheads don’t have them because they lost them or misplaced them. I spoke to a sergeant down there and he told me that he could send a document from hid desk to the other end of the building and it might never get there. That’s how f**ked up they are down there. I should not have to take the blame for their inequities and ineptness.
Yeah, I doubt that seriously.
You aren’t even trying. Excuse after excuse after excuse, and everything is someone else’s fault.
How come you can’t come up with the name of even one person at Chu Lai – just one – who can back up anything you say? Why?
Just how many people did you piss off over there, clowndog?
So, tell me, what good did it do me to send you all my documents? As usual, and as I knew from the start, you would just twist things to continue to support your accusations. I sent my discharge, my promotion warrant, a certified copy of my promotion warrant, the results of a poly exam, the results of the document examiner. I only sent the photo’s of the crashed truck because one of you heartless assholes brought up the Toyota incident as if it were also phone. Look prick, I don’t need or want your pity. Especially from a turd like you. I don’t have to prove anything to you or anyone on this blog because you are all so full of yourself you only believe what you say or what you say to each other. The proof is in the pudding dick head and what I sent to Lilyea is real. I only sent the “examples” of what have been used in the past as PH citations and BSM citations to prove that what you read in the manual is not all correct. You dipsticks are so full of yourself you can’t even bring yourselves around to looking at those docs, especially the promotion and at least THINK, maybe this is for real. You are all losers. So now you don’t even believe the promotion docs so WHY, again I ask, why don’t you use your prolific investigative powers to verify. I know why, because you don’t want to know the truth because what fun would that be. And I already asked God for forgiveness and he told me to go ahead and say this….GO FUCK YOURSELF!!
Hey Frank Visconi! Please, just stop..Not only are you being so completely disrespectful to your Superiors, you are arguing against people who have far more and greater knowledge of all things Military than you could ever hope to know. You are having a terrible twos temper tantrum and that is very embarrassing to witness. You have been found guilty of your Fraud and your Stolen Valor theft. There is nothing you can do that will change that. Continuing to try to fight the BCNR is not a smart move. Three times they have denied you. They are not now nor ever going to award medals that you did not earn no matter how many lawsuits you file. You appeared to have had a decent enough career. Be proud of that. Not everyone can be or should be a Super hero. Heroes are ALL those that served no matter what capacity. The Military needs all rates and ranks to function. Some can and do more than others. The rest of us make sure they have what is needed to get the job done. There is no shame in that. Medals and honours are nice and all. But they do not change what kind of person, Soldier, Sailor, Marine or Airman you are in your heart. Those pieces of paper, cloth and medal are lovely if you want bragging rights. But I will give my last dollar that all those Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airmen that have them would rather not have them. People do not sign up for Military Service (or in some cases Drafted), with the idea that they want to win all kinds of accolades, attention etc. They did their jobs and prayed to get home intact and alive. Those that did not deploy, prayed for the safety and well being of their comrades. NEVER ONCE did anyone say “Well hell, if I do this I had better get a damn medal and recognition for it”. Do you see how stupid that sounds and how you are being? Give it up and stop bringing so much SHAME to your… Read more »
Frankie,
Why doesn’t “Chewie” come in here to defend you?
I can’t go fuck myself, francesca.
I’m a girl. I don’t have a wank to clank.
Forget lightening up, just shut the hell and then some up, Francis Whiney Bitch.
So God’s talking directly to you now? Guess what, he talked to me too. He told me you were a rat bastard liar with a tiny dick. So to compensate for your lack of stature, you had to try to make yourself into a hero. But God told me you were to fucking stupid to pull it off, so he cut the apron strings and told you, “You’re on your own now, dumbass.”
Frank: this mean you’re not coming back anymore?
How does a bunch of almost unreadable docs that contain other people’s names and an article by a Doctor confessing to forging a Purple Heart citation help your cause in anyway?
Sorry I guess I should have read the comments before asking my above questions. Still don’t make any sense to me but at least I know why they were added.
This thinking stuff is hard, I’ve got to nap after all this connecting the dots so that I get purple.
Ciao Bella!
And you Lilyea. As the operator or administer of this site, I would think you had at least some sense of reasoning. did you even look at the documents? Probably not. Killeffer saw them and like the asshole he is he just laughed and threw them back at me and said, “these are fake”. Every document I have is fake. You’re right. So go ahead an blow your smoke and even call law enforcement if you want. You will only make yourselves look like the fools that you are. I’ve go NOTHING to hide and besides, I have taken all of them to the FBI and they practically threw me out of their office…NOT INTERESTED! Only interested in those that use fake documents to obtain money from the government. Do you think they have nothing better to do than to investigate fabricated stories like yours. You know NOTHING! Hey Lilyea, Thanks for NOTHING. Take the documents to whoever you think your experts are and have them check them out or like I said,do the right thing and verify with the Naval Records department or CMC. Maybe they’ll get off their lazy asses and even respond to you.
Yeah, well, I would look at them, except you sent me one document which reproduced itself 101,000 times (I shit you not) in my computer and I’ve been working to get rid of the f’n things. So keep your f’n diaper on, junior.
I don’t believe anyone called the docs fake, they just said they prove nothing. They are not relevant to your cause at all except where YOU see it. If you’d cool your nips and stop being all huffy you’d see that a few people here offered you sound advice on what you need. Instead of insulting people you should pay attention to their questions and realize THAT is what you need to gather to send in for the change of records you want. IF you are telling the truth then it should be easy to gather the correct information you will need.
No, Valkyrie – one of the docs Frankie Snows the BNCR here sent is clearly identified as a fake by the note that accompanies it. That note says it was produced out of thin air to “award” a Purple Heart that “wasn’t in” someone’s records.
The others appear to be consistent with being legit. But as you noted, except for the SSgt promo items, they’re also irrelevant. They’re not docs pertaining to Frankie’s alleged awards.
Thank you, Hondo. I couldn’t read any of the docs on my phone. It just wasn’t clear when I tried to enlarge them.
Will you kindly shut the hell up, Francis.
You are a poser sonofabitch who claims Purple Hearts years after VN but therte is NO DOCUMENTATION. You had a freakin’ rash and the ONLY ACCOUNT of the punji stick is yours and yours alone. As I said a few times before, I don’t give a rat’s ass about anything else except fot the Purple Hearts. And you have NOTHING. NOTHING. Any scars could have come from your jerkin’ off in elehhant grass or, for all we know, a car accident. So, take your bullshit wannabee self and peddle your crap elsewhere.
Obviously there is NOTHING that will satisfy your hunger for belittling people. You all have an answer for everything. You will NEVER admit you are wrong even if the Commandant himself looked you in the eye and told you these docs are real! Not that it means on shit to you but you all are shameful representatives of MY MARINE CORPS. One day when you’re laying on your death bed and your life flashes before your eyes, you will realize right then before closing you eyes for the last time what fools you were. Grow the hell up before it’s too late.
You know, when I was growing up, my best friend’s Dad was named Jay. I was like a second son to him. When Jay was 17 years old, he was a Marine that went ashore on the small island of Iwo Jima.
How do I know this? Because MY DAD told me. Jay never mentioned it, even as I got older and became an adult. Jay never told my of his unsung acts of valor. Jay never told me about his wounds or injuries. Jay never told me about the medals that he should have gotten or the recognition that he should have received.
Jay closed his eyes for the last time about 3 years ago and he now lies in a relatively unadorned grave somewhere in Georgia. He died peacefully and with honor…. the same honor he lived with. I like to think he was leading by example.
Hey Frank!
They ARE NOT YOUR MARINE CORP!
YOU ARE NOT A MARINE!
What you are is a LIAR and a VALOR THIEF…
YOU ARE A DISGRACE to ALL that have Served and are Serving still.
YOU ARE AN EMBARRASSMENT TO THE MARINES AND YOUR FAMILY….
You have brought SHAME upon yourself and your Comrades.
All your whining and pearl clutching and stamping of your feet and holding of breath is NOT ever going to change that.
So take some advice, go get some mental health care. Lots of it to figure out why you felt so inclined so DISHONOUR The MARINES, yourself and family by continuously arguing a lie.
Frank,
You stated that you sent Jonn ALL of your documents and that you have nothing to hide.
Please verify if you sent Jonn a Chronological Record (NAVMC 118 (3) of your assignments that also lists the name of the units you were assigned/TAD as well as the dates while you were on Active Duty.
“NAVMC 118 (3)
The Chronological record page is a historical record of a servicemember’s career listing all significant billets held and all units with whom they served. Periods of TAD as well as nonduty (UA, confinement, and hospitalization) will be reflected. Proceed, travel and leave are not recorded.”
AskAMarine: see my comment below. The court order dismissing Frankie’s lawsuit in 2013 identifies his specific unit down to the Bn level. A link to that court order is in my comment.
Frank……It’s all in the details. All you’ve got is fucked up, forged paperwork.
Time after time you’ve been asked for people’s names you served with, ships name. Every time you revert back to your fucked up “Docs”
I thought for sure when asked about type of helo you gunned on, I thought for sure you were going to say Huey Uh-1. I lost on that one!
This is for you, Francis. I’m sure Josh Hargis and his fellow Rangers would be impressed if you shared your rash story with them. Maybe they would even help you obtain the PH YOU want so badly. And don’t forget to look at this warrior’s Purple Heart. It’s on his blanket, you SOB.
What a colossal waste of time this has been. No wonder the FBI kicked your ass out of their office. You’re lucky they didn’t have you committed.
If you’ve been paying any attention to the regs for the past 60 years, you know what’s required to earn the Purple Heart.
You don’t have it.
You’re never going to have it. Ever.
All your little vision quest has brought you is ridicule. Go ahead and award yourself a couple of Purple Hearts–that’s the only way you’re ever going to get one.
I just hope the fellas in Clarksville are visiting here so they can read the sniveling, sorry ass who wants Purple Hearts so badly. A Purple Heart is an entitlement men in harm’s way do not want but posers crave.
Frank,
You remembered being on a UH-34, but you can’t remember the name of the ship that you were on for 2-3 months?
Why is it so important that you want others to know and believe that you were awarded a BSM w/V, a PH and that you were promoted to E6 (Temporary)?
As others have graciously wrote you, why are you not proud of what you did during your time with the USMC?
“Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to device.”
AskAMarine, it’s plain he only remembers UH34 becuase he had it in put front of him and took a shot at it. Until that was put here on TAH, he did not answer that question.
He doesn’t know the first thing about helicopters in general, and probably doesn’t know the difference between a Huey and a Sikorski, a gunship and a cargo helo, unless someone tells him.
I will offer up my current interpretation based on the ‘evidence’ submitted.
Frank was released from active duty and affiliated with the Marine Corps Reserve in Detroit. As his ‘bonus’ for affiliating, he was promoted to Staff Sergeant (I know that was a program in the ’70s and probably the late ’60s). That would explain why there are two documents (letter and promotion) sent to the Reserve Center in Detroit. It would also explain who updated the promotion record included in the documents Franks provided (how else would he even have access to that?).
It doesn’t sound as sexy as ‘I got promoted by the CMC 10 months after being released from active duty’ (inferring it was a result of his heroics as a PFC years prior). He was so high-speed, the Commandant is still thinking about him years later.
I never spoke of any heroics at any time. In fact, when I received the letter I even thought it was a joke. I called and talked with a Sergeant and he laughed and said, no, no one gets promoted after they leave active duty. He said it’s probably a friend playing a joke. That’s when he said, why don’t you bring it down and we will take a look at it. We set a date for May 2nd, 1969. He took the letter from me and returned about five minutes later and said, well, it’s legit and the (Lt. Col.) wants to see you in his office. That is EXACTLY how it happened.
Frank, the only joke is you.
If I’m following Frank’s line of reasoning here, it seems to be something along the lines of “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence”, or “it can’t be conclusively ruled out.” I was treated for some other medical condition when I was in the service, and it’s not in my records; therefore, just because my “Purple Heart injury” isn’t in my records, that doesn’t conclusively prove that it didn’t happen. There have been other irregular-looking awards that have been conferred in the history of the U.S. military; therefore, it can’t be conclusively ruled out that my irregular-looking awards are genuine. Am I tracking?
The problem is, Frank, that you have the burden of proof. Saying “it’s possible” or “it can’t be conclusively ruled out” isn’t going to get you there. Not even close. Others have suggested the kinds of evidence that you might be able to use to bolster your claims. But if this is all you have, I can see why the BCMR and the courts have consistently rejected your claims.
I know who has the burden of proof and I know what that means. I’ve got my ducks in order and I also realize that getting justice out of our “system” is not an easy thing to do. As you heave already heard about my civil cases. Go sit in on some civil cases in the circuit court one day and be prepared for a laugh. It’s a joke. The judge, at least in my cases, had never even read the case file until he got on the bench and then he is supposed to make a decision. The judge in the Hamilton County Case against Killeffer, the judge was a joke. I could tell as soon as I stood before the bench and watched him shuffle through the pages with a look of what is all this in his eyes. He looks out and says, “what is all this stuff, I don’t understand”. Well your honor, they are “Motions for Leave to File Supplementary Pleading/Evidence (look it up in the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. After you submit your original complaint motion and you discover additional evidence, you file a Motion for Leave to file supplementary pleading. That is in EVERY court. He is supposed to read them and then respond to me as to whether or not he accepts the motion. NOTHING! I never received anything from that judge and when we went before him, he merely told me to shut up when I attempted to introduce my evidence, telling me that the had 37 years on the bench and he knew what he was doing. Yea! That’s a crock of shit and you know what, that is the process these days in all courts. I have experienced it. One last thing. Internet crimes have changed the entire scene yet none of the judges have even read up on it. How do you determine venue in an internet case. The way he interpreted it, if I lived in the State Of Washington and Killeffer lived in Florida and he defamed me via the internet, I, the victim, would… Read more »
Well Counselor (Francine),
You demonstrated in the Circuit Courts of Stewart County and Hamilton County Tennessee that you don’t have a clue how to prosecute a case in Circuit Court.
In Hamilton County Mondays are “Motion Days”; you schedule your motion to be heard and come to court ready to argue your motion. The Judge might have as many as 30-40 cases on the docket for any given “Motion Day”. This part of the process actually frames the case for trial. Most attorneys schedule the motion for the docket, appear and argue the motion. After hearing the arguments the Judge issues the proper orders.
Because of your vast Federal Court Experience you assumed the Judge reads your motions, but in circuit court the procedure is opposite that of the District Court.
Frankie I realize now that your world is different than the world for the rest of us. Now, it all makes sense to me!
I suggest that you purchase a copy of “Cliff Notes: Law School 101” and read it!
Is this “motion day” anything like “sue TAH day”? Except that’s on Tuesdays.
Funny. Frank, the diploma mill lawer, is always right. Anyone who disagrees with him is stupid, ignorant, out to get him…It’s always someone elses fault, always someone else who did the dirty deed to ol’ Franky. Even the professionals who look deal with the documents in question every day are idiots and wrong. Does his behavior remind you of something or someone? Haven’t we seen this all before? Same song, different tune.
Gee, I hope I get a prize for this one.
Would that be dandan the bernastsypantsman?
Visconi: I looked at the docs you sent Jonn, which he in turn posted to his Photobucket account, and which can be viewed as the first 21 images here: http://s8.photobucket.com/user/jlilyea/library/?sort=3&page=1 Here’s my assessment: BLUF: your assertion that you were promoted to SSgt in the USMCR in 1969 may be accurate. The rest of what you provided is completely irrelevant to questions regarding your alleged receipt of the BSM w/V, 2 Purple Hearts, PUC, or CAR. 1. The first is a transmittal letter. It tells us that the USMC sent you something in 1969, ostensibly relating to a promotion to SSgt in the USMCR, consisting of 3 attachments. Unfortunately, precisely what is attached is not specified. So it doesn’t prove precisely what was sent to you. 2. The 2nd shows your home was damaged in a flood at some point in time (it’s undated, so it’s kind of hard to figure out when that might have been). Sorry to hear that. 3. The photo of your knee shows a scar. That proves nothing, as such a scar is consistent with any number of injuries. My adult child has a larger scar than that on their knee. The injury resulting in that scar was not made by a punji stake. Frankly, that scar is consistent with any number of things – including falling while playing grab-ass with your “buddies” and cutting your knee on a piece of sharp coral or a sharp rock before ever deploying to Vietnam (or after leaving the military, for that matter). 4. Your honorable discharge certificate from the USMCR does appear to show you as a SSgt, as do two copies of a promotion certificate. 5. A copy of the 118 page 5 from your records is also included. However, the entry on the 118 page 5 showing your promotion to SSgt is handwritten vice being typed. It is also unclear whether this document is from your official records or was produced by someone annotating by pen an personal copy of that document obtained at time of release from active duty. 6. The polygraph examination results you… Read more »
Shows you how much attention the judge paid to the case…Camp Butler, CA. His head was up his ass when he wrote his decision, that is why it is in appeals court. The dismissal is fraught with mistakes and it is an exact copy of the AUSA’s motion to dismiss. NONE of my evidence was even given recognition. I expect the appeals court to overturn the District Court’s decision and this will go back to a fair judge. We’ll just have to see. The BCNR NEVER responded when I refuted their four reasons for considering my citations “not Authentic” (no bogus). I refuted every one of them and they never responded even with a letter saying I was wrong of anything to counteract my statements. Just like they still have not responded to my request for them to produce the letter from CMC advising me that I was promoted. Once those idiots make up their mind, getting it changed is just about impossible and many veterans will attest to that and it is because of those who steal valor that innocent veterans are treated like scum. My records are there some place and sooner or later they will have to find them. If I have to I will travel to D.C. and I will sit outside the Sec. of Navy office until I get an audience or arrested. The latter is the more likely but when I do, I will raise such a stink, the entire country will know about it. First call will be to the news reporter in Nashville who covered my Toyota story and he will have connections at affiliates in D.C. You WILL see me on the front page of the USA today one day. I will fight this to my death. I’m not interested in proving you wrong. I’m going for the throat of the BCNR. I know others that have been treated just like me by those idiots. Once they have made up their mind, that is it and the court has the nerve to say that their decision was not arbitrary and capricious.… Read more »
Visconi: yes, the base location in the Judge’s order contains a \typo. It still doesn’t alter the fact that you weren’t in Vietnam for “around 20 days after your scheduled departure date of 11 Feb” as you claimed. Your records indicate you were in Camp Butler getting a physical exam and medical clearance on 14 Feb. What that means is that if you were in Camp Butler, Okinawa, on 14 Feb 1966, then obviously you were not in Vietnam on that date – as you have repeatedly claimed. 14 Feb is 3 days after 11 Feb – not “around 20”. This documents one gross misstatement of fact in your story. Now, let’s look at some others problems with your various claims. The reason the BNCR slam dunked you and called your self-produced BSM and Purple Heart “citations” bogus (one meaning of “bogus” is “fake” or “not authentic”, by the way) is that, well, they freaking ARE bogus. First, as the USMC clearly told you: the Purple Heart medal is not issued with a citation, nor is it issued for a period of time. Orders and a certificate are all that are issued to a Purple Heart recipient. Second, a Purple Heart is issued for a wound or wounds (1) incurred in a combat engagement with the enemy (2) due to enemy action (3) that require treatment by medical personnel and which (4) are documented in official medical records. Most wounds occur on a single day – hell, in a matter of a second or less – not over a period of time. I have seen legitimate Purple Heart certificates. They look absolutely nothing like that junk Scotty has posted which you tried to pass off as real to the BCNR. Hell, you yourself referred to those documents as “self-produced”. So please don’t insult our intelligence by trying to claim they’re real after you’ve already admitted to fabricating them – even if it was a Freudian slip on your part. Third, the Purple Heart and BSM have different approval authorities. The Purple Heart authority can be (and often is during wartime)… Read more »
Frankie,
In order for your appeal to be successful you would have to plead and show that there was a material mistake made by the Federal District Court.
You have not even alleged mistakes on the part of the District Court but merely your dissatisfaction at the courts “Dismissal with Prejudice”.
You have, however, in keeping with your style provided “mounds” of irrelevant information combined with a lot of whining. That strategy on your part has not worked and will not work in this case.
A fool is one who continues to make the same mistake over and over again expecting a different result.
Your appeal will be denied just as all of you other appeals have been.
Actually I think that’s the definition for “insane” not a fool.
From Hondo’s post above:
“then also noting that your official medical records showed you had received a medical exam and clearance at Camp Butler, CA, on 14 Feb.”
Frank, why during the medical exam in Butler, CA, did you not make note of your punji stick wound to the examiner? Why did the Medical Officer examining you not see the scar and question its origin? In my discharge physical, I was down to my skivvies being looked over.
My conclusion about the SSgt promotion is this. If a person is lying about four things, they may very well be lying about the fifth.
If your promotion orders and notifications turn out to be true…that is the only thing I might say sorry for and apologize. But in the face of your claimed award of the BSM w/V and more important to me BY FAR, 2 medals which are only earned, the Purple Hearts I cannot apologize. They are to me, far more egregious in your claims of them than a SSgt’s stripe.
I still maintain, documents are easy to find, easy to manipulate and easy to reproduce. I have saved your documents Frank. I will search on my own and see if I can find anything like them which you could have used as a template. If or when I do, I’ll get back to you and the site here.
Sparks: could be. But for the SSgt promo, Visconi has multiple different documents that are all consistent with each other that appear to indicate he actually was promoted to SSgt in the USMCR. Additionally, the court opinion I linked also strongly implies that the promotion happened. I think that’s the only part of his cock-and-bullshit story that is likely legit.
I’d say is legit, but since he’s apparently spread so much other BS, I’m now reluctant to believe this one too – even it it does seem to be reasonably-well documented – since he’s the one providing the docs. Only the court order makes me lean in the other direction. I can’t see how that could have been faked, given where I got it.
Frank Visconi, it seems perhaps, despite your other, far more egregious claims, (in my mind) you were indeed promoted to SSgt in 1969. Congratulations on that Frank. I am sorry for posting you are a fake for that one and ONLY ONE, claim. I still have some doubts but I will consider the advice of those here who are much more knowledgeable than I and have been on this site longer and seen far more than I have regarding these matters. So, there you go SSgt Frank Visconi.
Frank, please know, should I find a promotion warrant online that you used as a template, all bets are off. I think you understand this.
You won’t find anything. I didn’t use any template and I wouldn’t know how even if there was one. At least you had the courtesy to admit the promotion is valid (you can bet your life on it). Thank you. I don’t expect you to quit harping on the other but only the BCNR and Naval Records can fix that. If not, well I guess I’m SOL. I only ask you this. If someone was claiming all along that the promotion warrant was fake, that that should at least case a “little” doubt on the validity of the others. This WILL be ironed out some day. I guarantee you that. And I’m not the type to come back and say ha ha, I told you so. If they straighten out my records, I will be content.
Frank please understand something. I do not believe you will ever prove your claims of the awards you say you received. They’re just not supported. I do not believe you will ever get a new DD-214 or DD-215 showing your promotion to SSgt from my understanding of AD versus Reserve status awards and rank. As I posted I still have doubts. In my world of observing theories, four lies do not a fifth truth make, nor does one truth validate four lies.
Just type in USMC SSgt Promotion warrant from 1969. After Killeffer call mine fake and said that I pasted a red sticker on it myself, I went on GOOGLE and found a SSgt Promotion Warrant from 69. It has another name on it but I printed it off to show him in court that that is what the warrant looked like because, being a Corporal, he had never seen a SSgt warrant and he was comparing mine to his Corpora warrant. Even though it is out there there is no way you can take it and change the name. Also, there is a precedence number on all warrants. Even if I could change the name, where would I come up with the precedence number. If you still have doubts, I am sure you can check it out with CMC or one of those idiot departments that keep such great records. If you think it is fake, just check out the precedence number. There is only ONE per individual. I do appreciate your acknowledging that so I guess you will have to move on to the more important things that I supposedly self-produced. By the way, have you bothered to check out the top portion of the citations. They match pretty much every document given by the Marine Corps during that period; good conduct award,citations, pretty much anything that has United States Marine Corps at the top. If you take my good conduct citation and put it next to the BSM citation, the top portion is exactly the same then they use a different font in each of the different citations for the body of the text. You absolutely cannot change any part of that because it is detectable in whatever doohickey machine they use to analyze documents. Killeffer even called the guy who did my document Analysis a liar and a phony. He is a sick puppy. Believe me, two minutes alone with him and I guarantee you will want to pop his nose flat. He is one arrogant, narcissistic piece of shit and it exudes from his body. I… Read more »
Damn Frankenweenie,
Why are you so hard on a fellow Marine. I’ve had your 6,9,12 and 3 for about 4 years now. No where has it been proven that you are a SSgt. Your phony documents say you are but after all they are like your phony PHs and BS. Each and every document that has appeared on your behalf was furnished by you and therefor “suspect”.
What you could do is request a copy of the OMPF furnished to the Federal District Court; that file did not pass through your hands and will tell the entire truth. It also includes the letters that prove you are an OUTRIGHT LIAR.
Suggestion: Why don’t you execute a Standard Form 180 and have the records sent to TAH.
Sam,
It sounds ike you have been dealing with this character for a while. The sad thing is that there are Marines who have had awards not entered in their record books or have actually had citations that never made it up to the proper level to get the awards.
There are Marines walking around with scars from combat who never were awarded a purple heart. The difference is that they realize that the window for getting that award has passed and they don’t sweat it. More than that they don’t make up a citation to try to get a medal 40 years after the fact. The same thing with other medals.
I have given Frankie here explicit instructions on how to prove he was indeed selected and promoted to SSgt. The MCBuls from the years in question would back him up. The type of warrant or cover letter he produces doesn’t matter if he can get a valid copy of that MCBul. He hasn’t answered me with why he hasnt went that route. He has had years to produce that document. His “citations” look like something that somebody trying to write a novel came up with.
He has a tough row to hoe if he is going to proove anything.The shame of it is he did his time, served honorably and does have a damn thing to proove. Now he is a bitter old man that feels he needs medals to prove his worth. Is he still dug into the MCL?
Or could be visa versa. If being truthful about one, the others could be true also. Just depends on how you look at it. To be truthful, I don’t recall being examined at Camp Butler (and it is in Okinawa not California). If they would have done a complete exam of me when I joined and further when I left for overseas and it wasn’t there and then 13 months later after coming back from Nam saw the big scar on my right knee that was NOT there before, then that is their job to note that. I assumed it was on there. I never saw my medical records or my entire SRB. I did not carry it with me back to CONUS. It was sent by mail and therein lies one possibility. How long is you entire SRB? Well, I got mine by way of the VA representative and it contained only about 15 pages. Others tell me it is much larger than that, but that is what they sent me as my official entire SRB. Who am I to question that? I had no idea what an SRB looked like. I didn’t keep track of anything. I figured that was their job and they were doing it correctly (little did I know). Then remember, I was promoted and received those citations in 1969 and took them home and put them in my sea bag. It wasn’t until 2006 that I decided to get a copy of my records. THAT is when I found out about all of the missing information. That is when I began filing what documents I had with the BCNR and all the time they were telling me that I could only make a claim that was no more than three years old. But eventually the legal department of the Navy stepped in and said “that is ONLY if you needed a copy out of necessity”. I had no reason to obtain a copy of my records so 37 years passed before I asked for it. That’s when the fun began.
Try again, Frankie. It’s YOUR job to tell them. Most times the docs don’t even look in your records. They give you an exam and ask if you had any illnesses or injuries. That’s your last chance to get an illness or injury into your records. If you had one and declared it, the docs would have started a LOD investigation that would have gone up the chain to your commander. I had the same thing happen to me, sort of. I suffered injury in Iraq and declared it at my post deployment physical. The doc started a LOD investigation. A copy went into my medical records and I got a copy of it. So if you were injured and didn’t declare it so a LOD would be opened, then it’s your own fault. And in case you’re wondering, No, I didn’t use the LOD to try and claim a Purple Heart.
Hondo,
You caught the BOGUS PH Citation as well (the one that Frank sent to Jonn to justify his PH citation).
Frank, I can now see how you came up with creating your own PH and BSM w/V citations.
Amazing how General Abrams was able to sign a document in 2005 considering he passed away in 1974. The same with General Westmoreland, who passed away in July 2005; he was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s.
AskAMarine: if you want to know Visconi’s unit, read the court order I linked. That IDs the Bn to which Visconi was assigned while in Vietnam.
I went to the 3/3 Marines site to review the WIA/KIA list again. There is ONLY ONE 3014 on that WIA/KIA roster for 8/18/1965, SGT James E. Mulloy, Jr.
I would HOPE that this (false) claim by Visconi is not a case of Walting in our midst.
Who in the hell is General Abrams? His signature is not on any of my documents unless one of you assholes put it there. Never heard of the guys.
Sigh.
Frank?
Please look at the EXAMPLE of the PH Citation documents (2 of them) that you sent Jonn.
Not YOUR PH Citation. The EXAMPLE of the PH Citation you sent Jonn which you annotated “Is this normal?”
The story of an Army Soldier who received a PH Citation in 2005 from a former Army Medical Corps Officer.
Geez!! I was in the Navy and even I know who GEN Abrams was.
But then, if you don’t know the source name for fighting vehicles, I guess you’re just plain old SOL.
Oh, excuse me. Because I don’t know who Abrams is or was, that makes me a poser. Do you know the name of every Marine Corps General or Lt. General, or Major General or anyone for that matter. You are one hell of a genius. I guess I really am a poser because I don’t know who Gen Abrams is. You got me Sailor. My guess is even the pricks at BCNR don’t even know who Abrams is! You are one dumb ass swabie!
Listen here, whineyass.
I would like it very much if you could prove your ability there. But then again, it’s unnecessary for you to waste our time trying to recite names you don’t know either. So, kindly do me a favor and SHUT THE F*** UP!!
But since you do think you know so much about Marine flag officers…I got one for you.
Name me the one Marine flag officer that had an Army Command Sergeant Major for an senior enlisted adviser? You have to name the officer and the enlisted adviser to earn a little (more) respect from me.
By the way, you have until noon EST tomorrow to provide me that answer.
Abrams tank? You really are an amazing ball of stupidity. Look it up, cretin.
Listen, asshole, I do try to be nice, but you take the ‘nice’ right out of me.
GEN Creighton Abrams was ARMY not Marines, you moron. The Abrams tank was named after him.
Next you’ll tell us you don’t know who the hell Westmoreland was.
Well, Frankie-boi – I’d think that a Marine who served in Vietnam and who seems desperately interested in getting a few pretty ribbons to wear might recognize the name of the guy who succeeded GEN Westmoreland as CG, MACV – even if the guy wasn’t a Marine officer. But that’s just me.
One thing Frankie missed with his BSM and PH docs. None of the ones he showed as reference for his claim were using the typeface that is shown on the citations he claims as authentic. I have never seen a citation where a fancy script was used throughout the document. Add to that, while the docs he references are “non-standard” they all follow a similar format which his documents don’t.
ArmyATC: award packets and citations vary from service to service – and sometimes, from unit to unit (albeit usually not that much). However, award certificates are standard. And orders are generally standard format within a service.
The various records corrections boards (ABCMR, AFBCMR, BCNR)appear to have recently wised up regarding how readily passable “replacement” docs can be fabricated and/or obtained. They now seem to want orders vice certs in order to add something missing to one’s records.
Why? I think it’s because if necessary orders can be cross-referenced against other existing official records to check their validity.
Exactly!! Those silly certificates can even be purchased through various sites on line. My only point was, Frankie Boy made a big deal out of the “non-standard format” of his BSM and PH citations and posted a few from others as evidence. Even then, those “non-standard format” citations still followed a certain format and all were easily recognizable as such. I’ve seen a few guys who had citations but no orders get their records update request turned down because of it. If there aren’t any orders, it didn’t happen. And before Frankie Boy says anything about not receiving a copy of the orders, it comes with every citation as part of the package.
OH, gee whiz! Frank the crank has just shot his self in the foot, AGAIN!
Here, he says he found a template for a promotion warrant.
‘I went on GOOGLE and found a SSgt Promotion Warrant from 69.’ – his words, quoted. Link:http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=41610&cpage=5#comment-1226848
And yet here, earlier, he says a template can’t be found. ‘You won’t find anything.’ – his words, quoted.
Link: http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=41610&cpage=5#comment-1225071
The problem with fabricating something is that one layer of baloney piles on top of another layer of baloney, and before too long, that Dagwood sandwich is so high, you can’t tell what is what any more.
Frank, you are a lying, turd polishing, stump=sucking clown.
You keep on stepping your own dick, you imbecile. All you’re doing is making yourself look stupider and stupider.
You’re already sinking under the weight of your own lies and phony baloney stories.
Quit while you’re ahead.
Ex-PH2: maybe that should read, “Quit while you’re still on this side of the bars” vice “Quit while you’re ahead”.
Once again you twist words around to fit your sick ego. I told all of you that I found a template to take to court with me to prove that Killeffer’s ignorant ass didn’t even know what a SSgt warrant looked like. He looked at mine and said it was fake and that I pasted the red emblem at the bottom. That is engraved right in the document itself. It’s not pasted on. Go ahead, print off a copy and then try to change the name and see what happens. Besides, Lilyea has a “certified” copy of mine. You’re grabbing at straws again ExPH2 when you know absolutely NOTHING. Do you have the BALLS (obviously not) to make a few contacts at the places you supposedly know where to go and confirm. NO, you don’t. You’d rather hang on to your own nitwit brain opinion and believe what you want. Oh my God, what would I do if I was proven wrong?? Tears, Tears. Asshole!
Let me get this straight, frank the crank.
1 – You don’t like having your nose rubbed in your own very obvious fuckups.
2 – You get pissed off at people who see your very obvious fuckups and point them out to you.
3 – Everyone else is wrong because you say so.
4 – You don’t believe anyone could possibly NOT agree with you.
5 – Deep down inside, you really hate yourself for hidnig under your desk when the artillery went off.
Got it.
Ex-PH2: I’ve actually seen #5.
Wasn’t Frankie-boi here, though. It happened in Iraq.
Oh, and Frankie-boi? The lady you were just talking to has more “balls” (so to speak) than you ever did, sac-less one.
She’s also honest.
Hondo – ‘more balls’?
That’s the nicest thing anyone has ever said. I’m humbled.
“The whole group of you make the devil appear to be saintly.”
THANKS FOR THE COMPLIMENT!!!
I COULD NOT resist posting this again, “Old Scratch” made me wanna do it!! 😀
I thought it said “sane”. I didn’t agree to that, but I see I read it wrong and totally agree!
Hey Francis. Listen to this soldier’s “advice.” He imparts his message differently than I would. About those Purple Hearts, I’d just tell you to STFU.
Back to Frankie’s SSGT Claim. His last promotion, (to SSgt)was handwritten. That in itself is not damning evidence. What sticks out is tthat in the promotion Authority Section he cites a letter from the CMC. That is a red flag in itself. While Promotion warrants are “signed” by the CMC. ( and by the way all my SNCO Promotions, while having the same type of Language, were of much better quality then a standard promotion) The actualion Promotion Authority is a MCBUL 1340 of the appropriate date for that month. I mistakenly referered top it as an ALMAR earlier.
If Frankie truly was promoted to SSgt there are two unrefutable documents that WILL exist to back it up. A MCBUL for the Fiscal Year he was selected for promotion That lists the Name, MOS , SN or partial SSN and precedence number of EVERY Marine selected for promotion ( reserve and active duty may be seperate). Then there will be a MCBUL that will have came out a week prior to the first of the month of which he was promoted. This would have a BY NAME roster of all SNCOs who would be promoted that upcoming Month.
If That MCBUL is produced I will be the first to acknowledge his SSGT rank is legit.
The promotion warrant was not on the typical cheese type looking paper. It was more of a thicker grade of paper and it was manila in color. That is why Killeffer didn’t recognize it as a promotion warrant. He has only seen the type that come from one’s command. I had that but unfortunately over the years and especially the past eight years sending it back and forth, it became illegible but I had already made a copy of it and then I asked for a certified copy. Killeffer said that I just picked up a red sticker (wherever I could find one of them) and stuck it on there. Well, it wasn’t stuck on, it was embossed right into the document. Like I said, I have nothing to hide. Do what you need to do to confirm it. I wrote a letter to the BCNR and to the Commandant’s office after I began catching all this flack and I told them, “you are causing me all of this trouble”. The very least you could do is write a short letter confirming my promotion status. They just ignored me. Too busy I guess. I did that because even now some of you are still doubting the legitimacy of that document. I don’t know what it will take for you to see it for what it is.
Frankie,
Warrants can be faked, The warrants themselves are not copied and put in record books. The Warrants are just something to present the Marine. The actual official promotion is entered in the unit dairy and the Marines SRB. Even the SRB page can be altered. What can not be faked is the original MCBUL 1430 for the date the promotion took place. Finding that would be the lynchpin to your proof of promotion. There is no doubt that the Marine Corps has that document in its archives, as well as the results of the selection board for SSgt for the year in question.
As far as your other claims, unless you can get the original recommendation at company or Battalion Level, its a tough sale. Purple Heart, well sorry, unless you have something in your medical record or an eye witness account, you are out of luck. There was a Marine SNCO I served with who had two large scars ,, one on his forearm, the other on the back of his hand, Two different incidents, both treated at the BAS in the field. When the Doc asked him about documenting one of them for a purple heart his response was to point at another Marine being treated and say ” give it to that motherfucker over there,, he aint got no motherfucking legs.”
Are there any Marines following this blog that have received their promotions on “Cheese Paper”?
Frank, will you promote me, man?
Cheese? Can I get fires with that?
That should be ‘fries’.
http://www.marines.mil/News/Messages/MessagesDisplay/tabid/13286/Article/109959/mcbul-1430-1998-approved-selections-to-first-sergeant-and-master-sergeant.aspx
Thats an example of selection Board results, in this case for 1st Sgts and MSgts in 1998.
A simular list/ MCBul exists for 1969
You have another glaring hole in your Story Frank. You claim you got a letter from the reserves saying your were going to be a SSgt so you thought it was a joke, you called your Sgt buddy who checked with the Colonel. He said it was legit, so you two had a giggle then set a date for you to run down, pick up your warrant and get “promoted” I believe you said the date you selected was 2 May,,,
OK, heres the kicker… why is the endorsement for forwarding your warrant dated the middle of JUNE?… How coud you pick up a warrant that hadnt been produced and forwarded yet??????
Ouch! Mxied up dates!
Yes, those trips in the Wayback machine do get you messed up, don’t they?
Old Dog,
Visconi’s letter came from the Commandant of the Marine Corps and not from a Reserve Unit. That letter, according to the Fairy Tale, instructed him to make contact with “the office” and arrange to pick up his promotion warrant. He did and not only was he promoted but he was also decorated with a PH and BS.
Cute story, but it doesn’t pass muster with the Vets here. He’s probably swooned a lot with that story; no telling how many free beers he got out of it!
Hey Francis. Killeffer this and Killeffer that. Did he force you to claim Purple Hearts too? Take your promotion status, write it down on the paper of your choosing, pin the paper to a pineapple, and shove it up your ass so that the light bulbs and that dead gerbil have company.
Maybe I should have asked before now but I got caught up in all the “fun”. Anywho, what is a PUC and a SRB?
PUC = Presidential Unit Citation
SRB = Service Record Book
Valkyrie: you may also run across (in an Army context) the similar acronyms ORB and ERB. They stand for Officer Record Brief and Enlisted Record brief, respectively. They provide a summary of a soldier’s career from their official records.
Question. If you were in a unit that was award ed the PUC, I was under the assumption that it did not follow you to your next unit. Is this correct?
I ask because I was in 3/32 FA in Germany, that unit was awarded the PUC, then the unit was deactivated under the Salt II treaty. The unit was also presented the French Fourragere and I know that I couldn’t wear that for sure.
This is a curiosity question and the better educated I am the better I feel. 🙂
Ex-344MP: that depends on precisely when (1) the unit was awarded the unit decoration in question, and (2) precisely when you served in that unit. Discussion that follows is specific to the Army unless otherwise noted. Army policy is that personnel assigned to a unit wear that unit’s Unit Awards while assigned. This is done to honor the history of the unit of assignment. However, in all US military services, Unit Awards are worn permanently by personnel who served with that unit for the requisite amount of time during the period for which the unit received the Unit Award in question The required minimum amount of time is typically 30 days or the full duration of the operation, whichever is shorter. If an individual meets those criteria, the Unit Award in question (PUC, VUA, NUC, whatever – including sister-service awards – are authorized for permanent wear by the individual. In this case, “served with” means (1) assigned, (2) formally attached, or (3) TDY with duty at. Being at the same location or providing support in normal course of duty (e.g., providing logistical support) isn’t enough. You have to be part of that unit, either organically or attached/TDY/TAD. And I’m not absolutely positive that TDY/DAD in support w/o attachment counts. (I think so, but I’m not 100% positive.) Another “gotcha” is that often only parts of a larger unit will receive a unit award. That happened numerous times in the 82nd Airborne in World War II, because some elements of a unit were occasionally “out of the line” due to battle losses, or different elements engaged the enemy in separate engagements. Unit awards can be VERY specific – down to rather small elements in some cases. Other times it’s a whole large unit. You have to read the particular unit award citation itself to see exactly who was awarded the Unit Award. Here’s an Army example. A guy is assigned to the 82nd Airborne during peacetime. He’s assigned to a unit with multiple unit awards. While assigned, he wears them to honor his unit’s lineage and history. When he PCSs or… Read more »
Thank you for the response. It clarifies alot for me.
Well written out as well.
I had thinking along those lines which was the reason for the question.
I’ve been doing a lot of research into the second world war, so I already understood your example. Like I said it clarifies an awful lot of things. 🙂
Ohhhhh and another thought just occurred….
When an NCO tells an new recruit to keep EVERY document related to them, that they can get their hands on, they are not joking in the slightest. I’m glad I followed their advice. 🙂
Same here. I actually learned the lesson from my father. he was actually one of the veterans who’s records were caught in the “great fire.” he was a Korea vet, combat engineer. When he joined the Air National Guard many years later, his total time in service was off because he didn’t have all the records to show how much time he actually had in. I think he’d lost one or two years. If he’d had copies of everything he’d been given it wouldn’t have been an issue. he tried for a few years to get his records corrected, but he gave it up as futile since there was no paper to back his claim. But rather than whine and cry and sue everyone in sight, like someone we know, he shrugged his shoulders and said, “Sucks being me” and went on with his life.
Valkyrie,
The PUC is a Presidential Unit Citation. It is awarded to units and is a ribbon, not a medal. It is the highest unit award availiable in the US Military.
It would seem that Visconti, if assigned as he claims would rate the PUC. It was awarded to the 3rd Mar Division for its conduct from March 65 to Sept 1967. He was assigned to a supply unit that was part of them.
The chances are that the award wasnt presented until after his discharge, so it wouldnt be in his SRB or on his DD214.
An SRB is a Service record book.
In a Marine’s case it would have a page that covers all of his units he was in and dates. His awards, his weapon’s qualifications. his promotion dates ( or reductions), his training ( formal schools or correspondence courses, as well as off duty courses, as well as any disciplinary action. It will also have a page “11” for adminstrative remarks, ( mostly negative) such as not recommended for promotion or constant disciplary problems. There are a few other things but that is te gist of it.
Francine claims that upon his return to CONUS in 1966 that an officer told him they had been awarded the PUC so he went to the PX and purchased one for his ribbon rack. He states that he wore it until released from active duty in 1969.
The problem with that story is the PUC for the 3rd Mar Div was not awarded until 1967.
Sam K, Just An Old Dog: It’s even clearer than that. The BCNR has evaluated Visconi’s claim for the PUC and has already told him, bluntly, he doesn’t rate it.
The court order I linked above indicates Visconi was assigned to the 3rd Svc Bn, 3rd MARDIV. As quoted in that court opinion, per the Navy all elements of the 3rd MARDIV were NOT awarded the PUC. Rather, only selected elements of 3rd MARDIV were awarded the PUC. In particular, the 3rd Svc Bn was NOT among those elements awarded the PUC. It was awarded the NUC instead. See page 9 of the linked court opinion for the applicable quote.
Unless Visconi can prove he was formally attached or TAD to one of the elements of 3rd MARDIV that actually received the PUC – and that his attachment or TAD was for sufficient duration to qualify (typically 30 days or full duration of operation, whichever is shorter) – he DOES NOT RATE the PUC.
Visconi knows he does not rate the PUC. He just doesn’t want to accept that fact, and is trying to get a courts to help him make an “end run” around reality.
That’s it in a nutshell. Frank Visconi can’t get the military to accept his fake documenst, so he’s hoping he can get a judge to say he can wear the awards. Then he has “proof” that he earned them.
WTF does the BCNR know….NOTHING! Their daily work product is nothing but total screw-ups. A bunch of know nothings that hide behind a manual that is out dated and ambiguous. The don’t know what “benefit of the doubt” means, something like you guys. As far as the Court is concerned, that is typical of scum like you guys on these fake warrior blogs. You totally ignore the LAW of the land. If the LAW studies both sides and makes a conclusion, then that is the way it is. Someone or some entity, such as the courts, need to keep tabs on the ignorant and uncorroborated decisions of other. And by others I mean the BCNR and blogs such as this. I did a little research on your This Ain’t Hell blog. There are a whole bunch of articles out there about this blog as well as others and also about those that run them. The owners of these websites are not all that free of BIG mistakes and screw ups themselves. Do some research….even on your friend Lilyea. Not so clean. Hey, here is an idea. Instead of being assholes under the guise of ridding the world of posers YOU deem to have dishonored the military, why don’t you be REAL MEN and soldiers, Marines, and Sailors and start a blog or website that attempts to HELP your fellow veteran in their fight against the “establishment” like the BCNR who denies everything even when the claimant provides more proof than they have because of their total ineptness at their job. What you all are doing is FAR FROM HONORABLE, it is despicable and it is TOTALLY the opposite of Honorable. Do some digging and find the real truth about this website and it’s owner as well as other sites and their owners like the Schantags and the POWNETWORK. Check out their backgrounds and then see how much you like being a part of something that is despised by real men and Honorable men. Too bad you have nothing else to do with your lives than to sit around a computer… Read more »
Right. Because everyone else is wrong or ignorant. You are the only one who knows the truth. Right, like the courts don’t get it wrong sometimes. You remind me of a petulant, bratty teenager. Always screaming that everyone else is wrong and stupid.
Well Frank another long, worn out response with no answers. The only people turning over in their graves right now Frank…are veterans who served honorable, who truly earned their Purple Hearts, some being the cause of their death in service to our country and those truly awarded BSMs. So whatever you will take to your grave someday, as we all will, among them WILL NOT be 2 Purple Hearts and a BSM w/V, a CAR or a PUC. You can have the mortician bury you in your uniform and have him put all that crap on your uniform but you will have known the truth Frank. We know the truth. The Marines, the BCNR and Federal Courts know the truth and have declared it. So when it is your time, you may rest Frank but you will not rest in peace. That to me, is sad.
“WTF does the BCNR know….NOTHING! Their daily work product is nothing but total screw-ups. A bunch of know nothings that hide behind a manual that is out dated and ambiguous. The don’t know what “benefit of the doubt” means, something like you guys.”
Frank the BCNR apparently knew enough to call bullshit on your claims. They do not operate by the “benefit of the doubt”, they operate under the known facts of what is submitted to them.
“As far as the Court is concerned, that is typical of scum like you guys on these fake warrior blogs.”
Frank apparently the Courts knew enough to call bullshit on your claims AND your suit.
You keep asking us and others to “do the research”, well Frank you have done eight years of research and the body of evidence you have produced has been shot down by everyone who cared to read it. So why would I waste time researching anything about you? You did not earn two Purple Hearts, you were not awarded a BSM w/V. You were not awarded the CAR. You were nor authorized in your support unit to wear the PUC. That is about the sum and substance of it all Frank. You can scream and holler and rant and rave and it does not change one jot or one tittle of your phony documents.
Hey Frank
How about this for an idea. Shut the F*** up and find me the answer to my question.
The clock’s ticking, asshole.
The articles against this blog and others like it were written by posers that got busted and couldn’t handle having their lies exposed. Not one bad thing printed about Jonn, Scotty or POW Network is the truth. If they were the truth don’t you think some successful lawsuits or jail time would have occurred? Talk about being lead around and not thinking for yourself. Why don’t you do your own better research on those “articles” and their authors and learn the truth about the fuckheads that lied and what happened when their lies were exposed. Those articles are still out there due to posers like yourself pulling them up after being exposed,and because like this article about you, the Internet is forever! Cheers!
Frankenweenie,
You just don’t get it do you? Currently the laws in this land do not offer any punishment for those that would falsely claim valor awards. It is up to the Vets to out anyone who attempts to claim honors that they have not received.
It is obvious to me and the rest of the Vets here that you are a complete phony. You served honorably but you besmirched your legacy by falsely claiming awards that you did not receive and did not deserve.
You must understand that as long as we can breathe we will strive to expose phonies like you.
You did it to yourself Weenie Brain now you need to be publicly exposed for the fraud that you are!
Frankie you are responsible for your own legacy as a poser, valor thief, fabricator, liar, and chicken shit.
Your friends, neighbors, fellow parishioners, MCL, and your family will now know the truth that you are a “BLOWFISH”. What a legacy you have created for yourself.
Hondo, The only source I looked at for the entire 3rdMar Div getting the PUC for 65-67 was Wiki,,, probably not the best or most accurate source out there.
But as Sam K pointed out, Vasconis credibility is in question is he ststed he was ordered to wear it before it was even awarded. Generally all the unit awards I got we were made aware of in formation and the clerks went through everyone’s books and entered them,
Just An Old Dog,
When you go to this site, you will see that Frank’s unit, SU#1, 3rd ServBn, 3rd MarDiv as well a SU#2, 3rd ServBn, 3rd MarDiv and H&SCo, 3rd SerBn, 3rd MarDiv was NOT awarded the PUC in 1968:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Presidential_Unit_Citation_3rd_MarDiv_1965-1967.pdf&page=1
Sam is correct. NO way in 1966 did an Officer tell them to go to the PX and buy the PUC since again, it was not awarded to certain units within the 3rd MarDiv.
I got out in 68 you dumb ass. You are dumber than a rock and a smelly asshole at that. If it was awarded in 67 and I got out in 68, I still rate wearing it. Plus, some clerk didn’t go through everyones records and contact them about their unit awards. That would be hundreds of thousands. Word got around that unit awards were authorized and you had to contact the BCNR or whoever to get it put on your record. I have a letter written in 1967 by a Major because I was applying for colleges and he wrote a letter for me and listed my awards on it. Among them is listed the PUC. Do you think a Major would just write down something unless he checked it out. I have that letter but I will share NOTHING with the likes of you Killeffer you slimy piece of dog shit. By the way, it’s been proven that I am a SSgt so fix you f**king blog because it doesn’t fit with all the other lies you’ve written. You sick mind’s interpretation of something you read somewhere. One day you and I are going to meet outside the courtroom my friend. We’ll see how big your talk is then. And by the way, I was a 3000 in Vietnam, Changed to a 3041 in Little Creek and when I got out I was a 3061, Supply Chief. Get your lying shit together prick! Oh and your FONT shit that you have the others convinced of. The FBI has the only and the largest FONT registry in the WORLD. I happen to be personal friends with a retired FBI agent that worked in the FBI lab in D.C. for 25 years. I showed him my documents and brought up the Font. He told me right out to forget it. He wouldn’t even attempt to authenticate a Font. He told me that the font you are making an ass out of yourself about was probably used in the 1800’s like many fonts have and were taken out of circulation and… Read more »
Let me restate in a more understandable format.
AT EASE THE DAMN WHINING!!
Why would both a military review board and a federal court rule the same, which happens to be against you and both groups saying YOU, YOU, YOU FAILED to provide proof of your work, not that of others. Stop whining, take what you have that is honorable and MOVE OUT!!
I believe in respect of my elders, but not when they are whining like a newborn baby or a newly-assigned Private at boot camp.
NOW AT EASE !!!
Whiner Frank: what part of “you do not rate the PUC” do you not understand?
Your unit – 3rd Svc Bn, 3rd MARDIV – WAS NEVER AWARDED THE PUC. It was awarded the NUC instead.
Not all elements of the 3rd MARDIV were awarded the PUC. You were not assigned to an element that was awarded the PUC. Your element – 3rd Svc Bn – was awarded the NUC. Ergo, you rate the NUC – not the PUC.
Are you really too stupid to understand that simple fact? Or are you just being a dishonorable jackass, grasping at straws while trying to get something you do not legitimately rate by hook or by crook?
Frank, well yesterday, it was the CAR you were never, never ,never gonna give up not matter what. Today, it is the PUC you are never, never, never, ever gonna give up. Really Frank it is all your bullshit, you are never, never, never, ever gonna give up. All of it. Your shit stinks Marine, to high heaven. Everyone who has looked at it says so. The BCNR lost your records, the Federal Courts are incorrect ass holes, the dog ate your homework and on it goes. You keep saying there are “thousands or hundreds of thousands” of troops going through the same thing. That is bullshit Frank. Yes some people have record problems, but yours are unique to all those I have seen or heard about. Why, because you are basing everything on bogus bullshit paperwork. By the way Frank you keep talking about us being dummies and stupid and so forth. Why do you seem to be one of the few veterans I know of who did not keep copies of everything in their jacket? Oh, I forgot, the fucking basement flood. Because again, everyone keeps their documents in a couple or sacks or bags instead of a fire safe or boxes on shelves.
Frankenweeny,
It has not been proven you are a SSgt.
Well, why don’t you get your “Secret Squirrel” FBI Fontmaster to join the blog in your defense?
The letter from Maj. Bergland to the Director of Admissions at Eastern Michigan University that you submitted in one of your court cases is like a lot of your letters submitted. Unsigned and on white paper. Now why wouldn’t you have a copy of a signed letter on USMC letterhead?
You said you won’t share that letter with me Elrod; are you aware that you submitted a copy of the unsigned letter in your evidence package in one of your Federal Cases.
Oh, and when you decide to meet me ” One day you and I are going to meet outside the courtroom my friend. We’ll see how big your talk is then.” My advice to you would be to pack a lunch and bring a toothbrush.
Thank you, JOD, and Hondo. I really appreciate you guys answering my questions so that I can keep up with what’s going on.
Valkyrie, you can keep up with what’s going on?
How do you do that? I’m lost and wandering around in the bush right now.
This is getting to be an exercise in the height of the ridiculous.
Be careful not to shake those bushes. Bernath may have a heart attack. On second thought, shake the hell out of them.
Well I can at least keep up with the alphabet soup stuff. The rest yesh, I’m as confused on that as anyone.
I think he knows he will not win his fight for BSM/V, PH, PUC and CAR … He is positioning himself for the TAH competition … For he knows he could possibly win that.
Although Bernath pretty much has that all wrapped up!
No so fast…Chevy Cava-liar the Cheesy Caballero will give Geekend at Bernie a run for his money in a race to the bottom of the barrel.
Francis said days ago that his legacy is why he seeks to acquire that which he does not have. I’d say that his legacy is secure, but that it’s not the one he wants. He would like his obit to include that he received two Purple Hearts when, the truth is, he received none, other from himself. He would like some vindication from the courts but his record there reads like a manual on how not to present a case and is replete with conclusions that would embarrass a reasonable person. Pugnacity is a fine trait but only if the cause is right. His cause is wrong. It is self serving, driven by ego, and, as he pursues his selfish and nonsensical ends, he drags the USMC–which he claims to love–through the sewer with him. That is his legacy. It is secure.
Question 2/17, since he has had no family or friends defend him either here or in the court system with his bs claims, WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO WRITE HIS OBIT WHEN HE DIES
??????
I will. I volunteer. It will be my pleasure. And I would do it right. That is, I will point out that he honorably served the nation as a Marine and that he served in Vietnam. And that’s it.
He probably has already prepared his 4 page newspaper obit. After it takes that much room to describe him and all of his accomplishments.
Sam Kileffer
I can do a better job with the obit in 25 words.
Frank Joseph Visconi was born. Served as a Marine. Thought he was something else that he wasn’t. Proven wrong. Died a Jackass. The end.
Ordinary people do extraordinary things at war. Some of extraordinary things are officially recognized through individual awards for bravery and tenacity. I would guess that many are not, for one reason or another. It could be as simple as no one survived to speak of the heroism. It could be that extraordinary acts in battle became commonplace. It could be that the individual who attempted to do something terribly courageous fell without success and his effort went unknown. It’s anyone’s guess. But when things go right and there are sufficient witnesses and records of individual heroism, we honor the individuals with awards and decorations. And so should it be. Unfortunately, some people mistake having these awards and decorations for the things they represent. And this is the part that the pretenders and posers do not get. They mistake having a physical thing—a medal, for instance—with having the personal character traits (e.g., indomitable fighting spirit, willingness to sacrifice oneself for others) that gave rise to the courageous act performed. That is why, I believe, posers and pretenders covet the THINGS while actual fighting men are content with themselves and their performance in battle, whether or not it was officially acknowledged with an award or decoration. We all know the guys who were in deep shit. They are the ones who talk about what others did, not what they did. And, on the flip side, there are those who would pester, browbeat, demand, and even take to the courts to get what they believe they deserve. We do not honor such men. We turn our backsides to them.
Repeated for emphasis, with clarifying addition.
. . . and we cordially invite them to kiss same.
There it is. The posers and fakes covet what the awards represent, Personal courage and honor, something that the poser doesn’t have.
My two cents here: You peeps all know I am pursuing my long-desired literary outlet in retirement. Now, if you read a story, you don’t want a tale that is so full of holes and has such poor continuity, you find yourself throwing the book against the nearest wall, right? And if it’s really poorly done, you tell your friends ‘don’t bother’. Well, my stories are fiction. They are completely constructed out of whole cloth, moonbeams, and rise from the overheated recesses of my vivid imagination. I might occasionally give a nod to the real world, but I prefer not to. HOWEVER — and this is important, so pay attention — you can’t say one thing on page 5 and contradict yourself on page 25, and do it even worse on page 134. Continuity makes the story work. It means you keep your characters consistent, your timelines straight, events lined up. If you don’t, the story doesn’t work. This is also true for non-fiction. Same things apply. And I do occasionally write non-fiction. The real problem here is that frank the crank can’t keep his story straight; his grasp of timing and events is hazy at best; his ‘proofs’ are doubtful at best; and his excuses are of the ‘Not Me’ variety. That’s why you aren’t doing too well with your claims, frankenwienie. You contradict yourself and blame other people for twisting what you said. You can’t remember anything at all unless it’s part of your meme, and THOSE ‘memories’ have holes in them. And it’s ALWAYS someone else’s fault if you can’t have your way. I know: I’m repeating myself, but sometimes that’s necessary. So I’ll repeat myself once more. Frankie-boiee, your story sucks eggs. It doesn’t wash. Your ‘evidence’ is homemade baloney with no mustard. Suing people doesn’t help your cause. You’re giving everyone here headaches with your screaming temper tantrums. And you found the looniest looney-tune on the planet as a backup: Dullass Witless and Wandering himself, the giant thunderchicken who CLAIMS that he went skydiving to amuse Vietnames orphans when EVERYTHING IN THE SKY WAS A… Read more »
Hondo,
Thank you for this link for Frank’s case:
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/tennessee/tnmdce/3:2012cv01012/54245/58/0.pdf?
Frank, have you read it?
On one post on this blog, reference your BSM w/V, you admitted that the Marine Door Gunner was not KIA, that someone made a mistake on the citation(you added “not me.”)
Yet, the Court Document clearly states in YOUR OWN WORDS that you had to take up the position of door gunner when the actual gunner was mortally wounded.
Which is correct, Frank: Was the Marine mortally wounded in the chopper or wasn’t he?
I also have a sample BSM citation right here in front of me that does not have the style of type that is noted in the Awards Manual, it has several more than the allotted 24 lines, not even including the signature line and it is NOT signed by the CG FMFLant like BCNR said it was supposed to be and it is from the Vietnam War era. Read the section on BSM citation format and then read the last section which negates everything printed above it. There are so many different styles of citations out there it is not even funny.
Yeah, you have lots of pieces of paper, frankenwienie, but you have no credit. You have NONE of the support that anyone else has to back up your claim. All that crap you carry around with you is just that: CRAP.
You have none of those ‘no shit, I was there’ stories that everyone else has. No one has shown up to say ‘Yeah, he DID do that’. NOBODY. You don’t even have any buddies to call on. You can’t remember anyone you worked with? That is unfucking incredible! AND completely unbelievable.
Your credit went down the toilet months ago.
I don’t give a flying fart in space how many times you rag on about your pieces of paper. You just repeat the same lame-ass crap, over and over, because you don’t have ANYTHING but AIR and wishful thinking to stand on.
I don’t know what the hell you actually did when you were over there, but your whole story stinks like a boomboom girl’s breath loaded with squid chips.
And you must have really pissed off a bunch of people over there, because no one has shown up here to back your claim. NO ONE. PERIOD.
What the hell are you really trying hide?
I told all of my friends to stay clear of this website because once they subject themselves to you guys, they will be attacked too and don’t tell me they wouldn’t. Check out the link I posted below. This is you guys to a tee. Like the links says, Get a Life and grow up. If all you have to do with your lives is attack innocent people the you are a sorry ass and sorry excuse for a MAN!
Wait a second…you have friends, Francis?
No Frank, please do invite your friends to read here and post their thoughts of you. If they are grown folks they can handle it. What are you afraid of anyway? By the way, all they need do is Google your name and there you are linked to here. I even Google searched certain documents this morning looking for templates you could have used (not finished yet) and several of the generic searches came right back here to you. So, you’re already famous.
You told all your friends to stay away? That must not have taken long, and I’m sure your dog didn’t understand a word you said.
I have boobs, your argument is invalid!
I object to your terminology, francesca.
I am NOT a man.
And my boobs are bigger than you wank, you crank.
Here, try this on for size. It’s all about guys like you and your friend Killeffer. You all are at least as famous as me and maybe even more. Everyone knows about you sneaky, slimy, lies and untruths. If you can’t open it from here, copy and pate it and read away. Describes you guys to a tee. Get a Life!!
http://veteranguard.blogspot.com/2012/06/scott-hughes-confirmed-liar-stolen.html
Gaa-a-a-a-a-a-a-adammmit!!!!!!
HE DID IT! HE FOUND DULLASS WHIPITNFLOGIT ALL BY HIS LONESOME!!!!
He found the Giant Purple Thundershnicken Arch Slayer Warrior of God!
He finally did it! He screwed his own pooch with no help from anyone at all!!!
Congratulations, frankenwienie! You just made a complete ass of yourself faster than anyone else ever has before you!!
Sorry, can’t stop laughing!
Stepped on the ol’ crank with golf shoes he did.
Now excuse me while I go wipe popcorn and soda off of my computer screen.
Lordy, now we’re probably going to see another WitLessOne appearance. If he’s out of jail and not too drunk or too whacked out from his meds (or forgetting to take same) to comment here, that is.
This oughta to be good. (smile)
Frank, you are a dildo.
For your education, Frankie-boi: “dildo” = “fake prick”.
Frank your stuff is just not adding up. It never has. If your documents were even close to those used in the era I would give them a harder look but they are not even close. They have been shot down by the BCNR the MMMA and ultimately the Federal Courts. You are still claiming four awards you have no valid documents for, no eye witnesses to the occurrence of, no Platoon, Company or Battalion level documents for you participation in. You can’t even name ships you were on and I have met WWII vets who still remember the name of the Liberty Ship of other transport ship they went to Europe on board.
Frank I was not a Marine and do not know Marine paperwork from paper towels. However there are others here who do. One thing I do know, is that the Marine Corps, as opposed to all other branches, keep a record of ALL Purple Hearts their troops earned. If you are not in their database, it is hard to buy you having earned no less than 2.
Frankie, I have already given you instructions on how to prove you were a SSgt. The MCBUL for the Promotion board of the year you cite would have the names of all selectees on it. That is one thing that can certainly prove or disprove your claims. As far as the PUC there are also orders that would cover that. Same same the Combat Action Ribbon. Those documents are archived and can be dug up. Your Bronze star and purple heart claims are individual awards. Unless there are citations tucked away somewhere in the records branch, the documents you have are inadequete. They have been examined by the BCNR and found severely wanting. The BCNR knows the types of documents that you should have, as well as knowing how easy they can be forged. The people here are 100% behind getting the truth out and seeing you get whatever awards you rate. If I had all the access needed and you had a Bronze Star or Purple Heart citation I thought was buried in thousands of pages I would spend countless hours sifting through them to find what you needed to get your record straight. Why are we cynical about your documents? Besides the BCNR finding them, we have attended that rodeo Before. If you have time google the name Larry Gugle. He was an Active Duty Marine First Sergeant who altered his own SRB to add two years to his service and claim Multiple awards for Combat in Vietnam ( a Purple Heart and I believe Silver Star) with 1/9. After close to 20 years IN the Corps, someone caught on to what he did. His SRB was a forgery he had been carrying around for years, but it didnt match the historical ALMARs, MCBULs, Unit diaries, Morning reports, etc at HQMC. Gugle was Court-Martialed, reduced to GySgt and retired at 20. He was lucky to get that. Fast forward about 10-12 Years. Gugle weaseled into the 1/9 veterans group, and even rose to be a high ranking official. He had upped his game by then… He included photo… Read more »
Frank. As one seasoned citizen to another. I’ve tried this before but you ignored me. I was in the 82nd Airborne in Dominican Republic and Vietnam. I was also in the 101st Airborne in Vietnam. I did NOTHING valorous. I was a BDE Signal Officer and flew with the CG everyday. On several occasions I unassed the helo so they could put a wounded guy/s on in a hot LZ. They came back and got me. BFD. I have a zillion hours and qualified for a zillion Air Medals but I refused because Air Medals are for crew (IMHO), not passengers.
Now for the grande finale Frank: NO ONE, except for, maybe, your family, gives a shit what medals you have (except for a MOH/DSC/Silver Star). Coffee at the local diner still is $0.25. Enjoy your twilight years and look forward.
SJ
From a fellow signaleer, SIR! Let’s cap Frankie’s ass!!! (SALUTE)
PineywoodsNCO
Back at you Pineywoods! Forget the Sir stuff. Just a retired old heavy-drop fart. (SALUTE!)
Well, your retired pinky fingernail is more honorable to the whole of Francis here. And we signaleers are not heavy-drop farts. We’re animals waiting to strike!!
Hondo, are we getting an FOIA on this dude any time soon?
I am sure there is no need to do that..
Francis is an SFC….
Shithead First Class.
Oh, I really think we should. That way, the entire thing can be put to rest.
I think we should DEFINITELY get an FOIA on this twatwaffle, for just the reasons listed at this comment I made.
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=41610&cpage=5#comment-1227216
Remember that story about the kid who cried ‘Wolf’? Well….
EX-PH2,
I believe that Sam K, has already gotten a good portion of Frankie’s Records. None of them back up Frankies Claim. Scotty’s research shows he did serve and did a tour as a Supply Type. He was a bonafide Vet, rated several awards and was a Sgt on his honorable discharge.
That Frank Visconi served honorably and was a Marine who did a tour of Vietnam isnt the issue. Everything in his actual record supports that he was in the Supply Company for HQ 3rd Marine Division.
What is muddled and unsubstantiated is him being detached to one of the Infantry Battalions and doing combat operations for a sufficient period of time that would result in him qualifying for a Presidential Unit Citation (PUC) or seeing enough action to rate the Combat action Ribbon (CAR). There is no lower level unit documentaion that would substantiate his claims of getting the Bronze Star or Purple Heart. Likewise there is no MCBul that documents his being selected or promoted to SSgt.
The “Rubber Lady” question is something that probably isnt damning in itself. In my time we called them “rubber bitches” and they were considered about as useful as tits on a bull. They simply weren’t worth the trouble of carrying around. It took too long to blow up and deflate and they usually were flat in the morning.
‘Flat in the morning’? Old Dog, do you have any idea how many jokes there are in that? 😀
My point is that I ran into guys coming back from Vietnam quite a while before it was cool to be an in-country vet. They all had funny stories, they all knew who they were with, what their units were, where they were – stuff like that.
So maybe frank the crank here had a boring time filling out paperwork and moving pallets of junk around. So what?
What the hell is so inglorious about be3ing a supply clerk? Who else is going to make sure the troops have what they need to do their job?
I just have this feeling that someone called frankenwienie here a pogue or a remf, and he didn’t know what it meant until it was explained to him, and he just didn’t like that.
EX-PH2,
Exactly, Frankie had nothing to be ashamed of, not until his recet asshattery,
JOD, I just threw the ‘rubber bitches’ in there for the heck of it. I didn’t think it was particularly important, but francesca must have thought it was something other than what it was.
Still so many jokes in ‘flat the next morning’. 🙂
You know how I know you are a lying piece of shit, Frank? Your Bronze Star citation is awarded under the authority of the Commandant. It has NEVER been worded that way. To quote mine, “To all who shall see these presents, greeting: This is to certify that the President of the United States of America….” That is what it has ALWAYS said, you lying piece of shit. As to your “promotion warrant”, the SNCO promotion warrant through Sergeant Major/Master Gunnery Sergeant did not become similar to the officer warrant (wall hanger worthy) until the eighties. Once again, you lying piece of shit, yours is obviously home-made.
1stSgt USMC (Ret.)
Pretty stupid for a 1st Shirt. Obviously being a 1st Sgt. You had to have received a Staff Sgt promotion. Of course, maybe yours is from the NEW Corps. If you can’t tell an actual SSgt Promotion Warrant then it’s questionable that you are a legitimate 1st Sgt. Why don’t you post your promotion warrant and you BSM citation for all to see. Maybe someone will find something questionable about them. You could have produced yours just as easily as I could have if that is what I wanted to do. In fact, all of you on this site use acronyms and initials. Put up your real names so your do-gooder friends can check you out.
Frankie, I read your “story” about the homemade warrant above. Call HQMC. If you really rate the warrant, they’ll get you another copy. Back to the rest. You have the site moderator contact me, I will provide all stated, along with my DD214. BSV cert, promotion warrants, etc. By the way, seen the mistake you made on your Bronze Star cert yet? About it not being awarded by the President?
Tankboy,
Frankie is completely ignoring my repeated instructions on how he could clear up his promotion staus by getting a copy of the MCBUL that covered SSgt Selections for the year in question, Anyone can make a warrant up, its impossible for him to get into the archives and change the selection board message.
See here: http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=41610&cpage=5#comment-1227869
Any questions?
Jonn knows who most of us are as we contact him through other means. If he wants to dig through my stuff I won’t have an issue as I have nothing to hide, and I could care less. Hit me up if you want copies of my info Jonn.
Also, Liar, all Marine SNCO promotion warrants have a form number bottom left, says :
DD FORM 216MC
1 SEP 54
The cert for the Bronze Star Medal:
NAVPERS 1650/12 (12-67)
Funny, you don’t have those (Lying asshole).
TankBoy: the USMC has already called Frankie-boi here out re: the fake certs. See the court opinion here, which quotes the USMC, very politely, telling Frankie he’s (1) lying, and (2) lucky not to have been prosecuted.
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/tennessee/tnmdce/3:2012cv01012/54245/58/0.pdf?1370700097
Frankie-boi is just not willing to give up the lie. Or he’s too stupid to do so.
Or both.
Did the lying turd request a check on my papers, Hondo, or was that statement as full of ass hattery as his awards? It took me an hour and a half to find the award in the basement.
Thanks Hondo! Fun reading. I didn’t catch the CG FMFLANT authority for a FMFPAC engagement. That makes it even more bullshit.
We already KNOW who Tank Boy is, shithole.
What was it that Frank was trying to get us to do again? Or was it what he wants us to think? Or what?
And why exactly? What with all this bloviating it’s difficult to remember the point he was trying to make. Or maybe there really wasn’t one.
I’d take #2 – wasn’t one, other than desperately seeking attention.
Ex-PH2: I’d say more like “desperately seeking decorations”. But I could be persuaded to go with your assessment as the underlying character flaw driving his behavior.
Attention whores act like attention whores, I guess.
Francine, knows in his mind that he cannot change or alter reality, he thinks that he can change reality of those that see him for what he is.
It is sad when you Google his name and the first page of results all result in his embellishments and lies. The same goes for Daniel Bernath, Dennis Chevalier, Dallas Wittgenfeld, and so forth, so forth, and so forth. Again, this is their lives that they are affecting, not yours, mine or anyone else that are a part of the TAH family.
Frank,
When you were with the National Insurance Crime Bureau, did you or your coworkers ever encounter any reports of individuals or individuals having Mythomania or Pseudologia Fantastica?
Ouch … That is going to leave a mark!
“Put up your real names so your do-gooder friends can check you out.”
Through the course of posting here, most of the regular commentators can figure out when someone’s legit – mentioning of military schools, local landmarks on the duty stations they’ve served, and people they served with, even the poster’s username all provide clues to those “in the know” that the poster is what he/she say he/she is.
Unlike you, who can’t recall ships, C.O.s and squadmates. That and some poorly faked paperwork are what leads myself and others here to doubt your claims that “You been done wrong.”
And it was a real shame to hear about what happened to Charlie’s Steakhouse. It used to have excellent food.
Also most of us are friends on Facebook as well. So we know who and what we all are.
JUST A MONEY MAKER IS ALL THIS SITE IS. There is an entire article that goes along with this but too long to post. It basically states that most people who go after others about their awards, more than likely have NONE of their own. Probably more than half of you that valorguardians.com Statistics, Traffic and Information valorguardians.com Screenshot 1 2 3 4 5 2.63 Rating by pagestats.info The domain valorguardians.com was registered 7 years 6 months ago. The domain valorguardians.com has an alexa rank of #256,608 in the world. It is a domain having .us extension. The estimated worth is $ 19,980.00 and could have a daily add income of around $ 37.00. The website code is not compliant with regards of web standards according to w3c.org. Furthermore the website is generating income from Google Adsense. As no active threats were reported recently, valorguardians.com is SAFE to browse. Updated 3 months 1 week ago Visit Website Update Get Widget You guys are all full of shit combat veteerans and Air Cav and Sgt. Majors and Master Guns and this and that but none of you will put up your exact real name so that the assholes on all the other blogs (and this one) can check you out for real. Chances are 90% of you are phonies yourselves and take the heat off yourself by ragging on other guys. As far as I’m concerned You are all phonies and embellishers. At least I have the gonads to put my name out there. I wonder how many of you would like to see the results of a FOIA check on you? Oh, by the way, I sent two more documents to Lilyea but he said he is not posting them because he is taking all his time cleaning up the 101,000 e-mails he got and of course believes it was from me. Well, I only sent him e-mails with my docs the day before yesterday and yesterday sent him a copy of my unit roster showing me still in Vietnam on 29 March 1965 AND a letter to me via… Read more »
Yeah, I make about $300/month in ad revenue, Frank. Just the webspace costs $250/month, so I’m reallycleaning up here.
I didn’t say that I got 101k emails, I said one of the documents you sent me regenerated itself 101,000 times when I downloaded it to my computer, so I don’t know if you did that or what, but I’m not opening up any of your documents. I wasted four hours the day cleaning those files off my computer. Would you download anything from me after that happened?
And I’m not sure what you think all of this proves – you couldn’t convince the Navy Department, you couldn’t convince the Federal Courts, so why are trying to convince us? Stop claiming shit that isn’t in your records and all of this will stop.
It’s just that simple.
You’re Number 256,608 in a world of – what? – 8,568,905 internet websites?
Geez, Jonn, a year ago, according to pickwickre peckerwood, you were only #856,384 or something like that.
You’ve moved up in the world. Durn! You’re good!
Gee whiz, frankenwienie, you found out all that statistcal stuff about This Aint Hell.
How VERY VERY clever of you! And you’re the one who said you don’t know how to do stuff like that with a computer. You contradicted yourself again.
When do you stop lying, francesca?
Do you NEVER stop?
Are you so dementedly butt-hurt about no one taking you at your word that you simply cannot get off this ludicrous trip you’re on?
You keep contradicting yourself, repeatedly, right here in front of us, but it’s somehow OUR fault that you can’t fool us?
Do you have any idea how ridiculous you are making yourself appear to be?
Frank. well that sounds like it’s your “swan song”. I’d like to say it has been fun but it hasn’t. So you’ll know, all the Google hits that drove your name and to the top of Google fame, don’t go away. They are forever, just like this site. So Frank, if you want this to die on the vine then stop posting and let the thread fade into obscurity. If you keep posting, well, the numbers at Google keep going up and we keep responding bullshit to your bullshit.
So we will go on here with our little low rent web blog and keep outing people “just like you”. Heart warming thought isn’t it Frank? So come back or don’t. It’s all up to you. Good luck in your fight with the Bureau of Naval Record Whatever, the Bureau of Land Management or the Burlington Northern Railroad, I’m not sure which it is anymore.
“To tell you the truth,”
That would be a first.
Funny how all your so-called “evidence” just magically appears. First you say in the court documents that you never heard anything about your alleged referrals for a BSM and PH, and then suddenly citations appear at your mother’s house. Your shit is so fake it’s almost unbelievable.
You know what, dickhead??
If you maybe had quarter of a brain, I might be willing to share with you information about who I am. Because of another dickhead being as fucking assbackward cheese-filled stupid as you are on this site, I offered to share my DD-214, which is entirely accurate, with Jonn. If he wants to post it at anytime, he has my blessing.
Jonn has not made a dime off me. If he has, I wouldn’t care in the world. I’m not worried.
What I am worried about is were you allowed to reproduce. Hoperfully the stupid within your family tree will fade completely from existence once you pass on to another plane of existence.
Just hope you don’t mind the heat and the smell of the rest of the shitheads you will join.
Unkindly go fuck off, Frank.
This is a fun site, and if Jonn makes a few bucks off of it, so what. God bless America and all that. So piss off, cock breath. Your silly schitck has grown as old and stale as the underpants you change monthly.
Actually, you retarded lying tool, normal promotions are the 1st of the month. Meritorious promotions are the second of the month. This is the norm. Then again, in the Corps tied to your printer, anything is possible. Shit, next you’ll have a set of adoption papers saying Chesty was so impressed with your warrior Chi that he did an adult adoption and left you his five Navy Crosses. Drop the crap and be proud of what you did. It was honorable and absolutely needed. Why cheapen it with this bullshit?
LebbenB,
40 plus years is a long time to recall events, I’ll grant Visconi that. He has only “remembered” a few individuals of whom which he served, one Cpl, who was later commissioned) and three officers. In one of his earlier posts he mentions he mentions that as a mud rolling PFC he dare not approach an NCO or above.
It seems to me that he would remember several of the “snuffies” you worked side by side with every day.
Guys you slept next to, went to chow with, filled up sandbags with, drank with and stood guard duty with.
Would Frankie lead us to believe he has zero recall of ANYONE?
Im Betting Frankie recalls quite a few of his buddies… So why isnt he scouring the internet or other sources to find them? Well, probably because they won’t back up his claims or even worse completely shoot it down by saying they distinctly remember that he was somewhere else when his “bravery” occurred.
“It seems to me that he would remember several of the “snuffies” you worked side by side with every day.
Guys you slept next to, went to chow with, filled up sandbags with, drank with and stood guard duty with.”
That’s one of my points, Ol’ Dawg. Hell, I remember guys I used to hang with back in HS. I can recall the names of guys I went through basic with in B-2-2 as well my DS’es. I remember who my first PSG was in Division (And still do a fair imitation of him.) That was 30 years ago. For somebody to say that they can’t remember who they served alongside and where throws up a whole bunch of red flags for me.
‘probably because they won’t back up his claims or even worse completely shoot it down-‘ That’s the most likely answer, Old Dog.
I can remember my favorite teachers in highschool, what they looked like and what they taught. That was a LONG time ago. I can also remember the grilled cheese on WW I had this past Thursday, and what was in the newspaper I was reading at the restaurant counter.
I don’t think it’s too much to ask someone to cough up a few details like that.
I don’t remember the names of instructors from “A” school, but I do remember what they looked like. I also remember who I dated down in Pensacola and which one of the girls in my class got pregnant before “A” school was over.
And Quarters K in Arlington, which was across the street from the Pentagon. We were strictly ordered to stay away from the Pentagon, because a war protest was going on, so a bunch of us put on college sweatshirts and jeans and went down there. Got there just as the MPs threw some draft protestors out of the Pentagon. (Do I get a CM for doing that now?) That was the fall of 1967, a LONG time ago.
What is it with this guy that he WON’T bring in someone – not even one person – to support his claims? It just does not wash.
MARK C. SEAVY……Another one that I’m probably dealing with like Killeffer, Scott Hughes, Lilyea, Scantag, etc. etc., Am guessing that both Seavy and Lilyea helped Killeffer to sabotage my claim with BCNR (I know for sure Killeffer did) since they live in the DC area and have connections. Am also guessing that these two(Seavy and Lilyea) assisted Killeffer in getting “awards” he did not deserve entered in his records.
Got the real scoop on all of you follow the leader types. Ooooh, Killeffer and Lilya said it is so, so it must be. Ooooh, I’m so proud to be part of this network of saving the honor of those who really deserve it Bet most of you have a record you wouldn’t want anyone to see. I have friends who know how to find out who you are even with you fake names. Let’s do a few FOIA’s on some of you. Can’t wait to see what comes out. ALL COMBAT VETERANS. Yeah, I bet. Probably all of you Army types have the BSM, that is without the “V”. They give it out in the army for meritorious achievement such as being able to type more than 60 words per minute. I see Air Medal plates all over the place here near Ft.Campbell. Three rides in a chopper and here you are, get yourself an AIR MEDAL license plate. AirCav, are you really Air Cav. You know a whole lot of guys pretend they were part of one of the elite units. I’ll bet a whole bunch of you were Special Ops and that’s why you can’t post your real name. Too, top secret. And the story goes on and on and on blah blah blah. My guess is that at least 90% of you in this site are phonies yourselves. Check Mate!!
Sour grapes much, Frank?
Checkmate?
Rally Frankie,,, When it comes to digging out the truth and the way military records are kept you aren’t at Chess level.
You are more like the 9 month old in a crib whose diaper fell off in the corner playing in his own shit.
Im sure that TAH was able to influence the BCNR on a case years before you even popped your ugy head in here.
Even Sam K, who you have such hatred for has zero inluence on the BCNR. HQMC and the BCNR figured out you were full of shit all by themselves.
So, you are jealous of medals that others have that you don’t think they rate? Is that is what drove you to fabricate your own awards?.
Shitbird
Frank: I don’t think I’d call “West Virginia” and “Indiana” the DC area.
Sounds like you’ve been listening to a guy who wears a purple-tigerstriped jumpsuit, got caught lying about being SF (and is still rockin’ that lie), is a misogynist and racist, and acts like his deck is missing about half the clubs.
Did he tell you all about the times he went skydiving in Vietnam to “entertain the children”, and about his arrest for flying while intoxiated?
No matter. I guess that means you’re now un de los maricóns de ‘Thunder Chicken’ now.
If you’re actually buying any of his bull and following his lead, Frankie-boi, you’re far less intelligent than I thought. And maybe even less intelligent than your purple-jumpsuit-wearing patron.
Well Frank as many chopper rides as you claim you volunteered for, where’s you Air Medal(s)? I mean, as long as you’re claiming shit you didn’t earn or weren’t rightfully awarded, why not a couple of those too?
Oh and Frank…please don’t say “check mate”. Please. Chess is a game far above the crap you’re trying to pull. I mean you’re not even up to “King Me” on a solid game of checkers yet. All you’ve done so far is spin the color wheel on “The Game Of Life” and you keep hitting “Ones”. So lay off the chess references. Makes you sound dumber than I already think you are.
Sparks. He is playing checkers … He does not realize we have our next ten moves either planned or in play!
I think he is probably playing “go fish”.
Sounds to me like Frank IS very upset he never got a personal award.
Oh, please don’t get my FOIA, I’ll be ruined. Don’t throw me in the Briar Patch, either, Brer Bear.
Quit talking, Frank, you have research to do to get my answer to my question.
Now, move along, asshole.
And if you have any more brain dead comments about the Army I proudly served in, kindly keep them in your own head.
Please refer to my earlier comments to save you the time to be ignored for a FOIA request with my name on it. Wait, you don’t know my name.
Fuck off, Frank.
That’s because none of you on this site have the BALLS to go by your real name. I wonder how many of you are afraid to do that because someone may find out that it is YOU that is the phony. From my understanding from a whole lot of research is that most bloggers on these sites amount to about a total of five individuals using several different names. How much money do you make for lying out your asses?
Can only speak for myself here, but I have never made a cent, a dime, or any other amount of money, in US dollars or any other currency, or anything else of value, for that matter, for lying from any orifice. There just isn’t an occasion that justifies it very often. In fact, I cannot remember the last time I felt any need to lie about anything to anyone.
But then, none of us will have to answer for any sins but our own. So, if you want to continue to embellish what appears to have been honorable service which most of us would honor you for without the exaggeration, then go ahead on, Frank. Just remember that you brought our disdain upon yourself, and most of us here have treated you with more respect than you have shown us.
Yours is one of several cases posted on this blog that particularly grieves me because I would much rather honor your service than wonder why you are doing this to yourself. You see, Frank, we vets are accountable to each other more profoundly than most Americans can fathom. You are dishonoring your own service, and thus diminishing ours as well by extension.
Maybe because they don’t want retards like you Frank harassing them at will and sending emails to their accounts.
I could happily give you my USAF email if you like. It has my name in it.
Geez, he’s even beginning to sound like Thunderschicken Whipitnflogit.
Frankie-boie, seriously, find a new bone to chew, will you?
You’re spending all this effort on temper tantrums just to let us know that you don’t like us, because we told you your creative writing skills and creative graphics skills are below par.
Go some place quiet, maybe a quiet corner, where no one will point at you and giggle.
And if you are really leaving, then PLEASE stop coming back here. You’re wasting so much time that you could put to good use elsewhere.
You want some real recognition for doing something worthwhile? Put some time in on doing a 5k run/walk to raise funds for a worthwhile cause.
And let this BS go.
Frank,
I have an idea … Perhaps an OIG can help.
Essentially, you can appeal to the following OIG’s for help: DoD, USN, DoJ and perhaps several others. All you need to do is a fraud, waste and abuse call (or letter) to their hotline(s) and present all the evidence and request an investigation in to the matter. Be sure to cc your Congressman and both Senators from your home state. In addition, cc and request assistance from your State Dept of Veterans Affairs. Be sure to tell them you perfer an OIG level investigation.
Now to the serious stuff. If you provide evidence that is contrary to fact or if you lie … You will probably go to jail.
But this IS the only way to resolve this. And if you don’t have anything to hide it IS your best option.
So there you go … OIG level investigation …
Who should initiate the calls to the various OIG’s who may be able to discover the fraud, waste or abuse?
Just askin’!
Contact whoever you want dipshit. I’ll be waiting right here for them to come knocking. Then maybe I’ll send them your way so they can see the REAL FAKE. Oh, you’re not a MARINE!! You aren’t fit to wear the Marine uniform, but you disgrace your uniform by you childish behavior. Maybe you should have stayed in the Cub Scouts because you woudln’t even make good boy scout.
I was quite polite in the above message. I professionally offered a pretty good option for you.
And by the way Francine … your smug attitude here directed at honorable Vets will not go unnoticed by who ever may review your case in the future.
You attacks above based on my solid advise to take to OIG are systemic to your root issue.
You, like the others highlighted at Scotty’s, TAH and other Stolen Valor web sites, are a fraud … we know it, the Government knows and you know it!
BTW: Thanks for calling me a dipshit … you are sooooooooo cute when your are frustrated!
One other thing: I have more time training and working with Marines while on the Mid Watch than you had in VN …
KMRIA!
You’re no longer a Marine, Frank.
Most who served in the USMC retain that title for life. You, on the other hand, forfeited your claim to that honored title about 8 years ago when you started lying, faking documents, and claiming sh!t you never rated.
I have two uncles and one great uncle who legitimately rate the Purple Heart. One of those uncles came home in a box. The other uncle also was awarded the Silver Star, and damn near came home in a box himself.
My father and five of my uncles served in World War II. One of those uncles later served in Vietnam – USN, offshore. And my great-uncle who rated the Purple Heart fought in World War I.
The uncle with the Silver Star served with the 82nd in North Africa, Sicily, and in France – including at the Bulge. Another uncle served at Anzio. A third uncle was on a ship that got hit by a kamazaze. The uncle who came home in a box served in Europe. The great uncle served in France during World War I.
The other two – another uncle and my father – had relatively uneventful service in the Pacific. Just like yours, Visconi – no wounds, no combat heroics. They just did the job they were assigned, and then came home.
And they never lied about what they did.
Since they’re no longer around to speak for themselves, let me do so on their behalf. Here’s a message from all of them, “Frankie-boi”:
Fuck you, you ugly, worthless, lying sack-of-shit asshole – and the horse you rode in on. Quit pissing on our graves. Just STFU.
If you end up in the same place we are, we’re looking forward to meeting you in the afterlife. We – and a large number of others – really would like to have a little talk with you.
My apologies if the coarse language above offended any of our readers. It simply needed to be said.
Many of the people Frankie-boi here has offended most are no longer around to speak for themselves.
Frank,
Seriously they can help infact if you don’t refer this case perhaps some one here may … You know to help you out!
OIG Special Agents (SA) are Series 1811 Criminal Investigators. Sometimes an 1801 is assigned but they have the same authorities.
When questioned by an OIG SA they typically know the answer before they ask the question. Giving false statements and or providing false information (including documents) to an OIG investigator is not a good thing. Those who do … Do the minimum of one year per substantive violation. That can add up.
Anyway … I hope this helps.
If you don’t want to call the OIG just let us know. Perhaps we can help.
BINGO!
Frankenweenie lies and cries in letter to the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals.
First he says he sent his phony documents to Awards Branch in 2006, but that’s not what the records show.
Perhaps he should begin an OIG investigation?
Link to his letter:
http://www.blowfish-bomber.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Visconi-letter-to-Appeals-Court-4-21-2014.pdf
“Probably all of you Army types have the BSM, that is without the “V”. They give it out in the army for meritorious achievement such as being able to type more than 60 words per minute.”
Actually I got my BSM w/V for typing 65 WPM. The V isn’t for Valor, it’s for velocity.
Nice try, frank. But ya gotta use better bait than that to get me to bite.
LebbenB,
The boy has personal award envy. We have seen it before.
I have never received an award for for Valor … Never been put in the fray like many before me.
However, unlike most if not all of the POSERS who are highlighted here, at Scotty’s and other Patriot sites … I have more personal awards for LEADERSHIP and unit awards than they could ever imagine … Yet those don’t belong to me … As a Genuine CPO they belong to the Sailors I lead and the command histories of the units I served in. My only award is I have the priviledge to display a modest shadow box in my den.
Me, I have three overseas tours. My first was in Korea as part of 2nd ID from 92-93, I ETS’ed in 1994, came back into the NG in 2003 as soon as I found out that would get me deployed, and I have since done two tours in the ME. My highest decoration is the ACM, the Army Achievement Medal (2 of them), which came from my ME tours, the first of which was A-stan, I did that tour as an “11 Bang-bang”, did my fair share of missions outside the wire, but I feel like I did my job right, I DON’T have a CIB to sport on my uniform, BUT I GUARANTEE ALL that I DON’T make up shit about where I was or what I did on either ME tour. My second ME tour was in Kuwait, I was just another rear-echelon “pogue”, NOT what I wanted, but I followed the orders that the Army gave me, and worked my ass off at the job I was assigned to. Anyone that asks me where I was and when, as well as who I served with as well as under, I can answer those questions without a moment’s hesitation. Sparkle-Pony, Skittles-shitting, rainbow-farting tinsel mouse Frank Visconi, can’t answer SHIT, thus I consider him a POSer, he has invoked the wrath and ire of the People of TAH, he doesn’t have to worry much about me, but when it comes to some of the other Members of TAH,…
He/it has opened a Pandora’s Box upon himself like he never imagined, but like a wise mentor of mine once said, “You can’t help a fool.”, and Frank Visconi, has proven himself to be VERY dedicated to being one.
Time for another drink.
Ditto, Master Chief – the award that means a lot to me is the FMF warfare pin. Put in a lot of hard work and passed a hell of an oral board.
Biggest accomplishment for me was taking care of Saliors, Marines and their families – no medal or award can beat that feeling any day of the week
What a sad, sad bitter old man.
Hey Frank, I am not a veteran. But here’s the kicker…unlike you, I have never claimed to be a vet or anything that I am not. I have never coveted another man’s medals. I have never typed up phoney bullshit certificates bestowing awards on myself and then thrown a tantrum when they weren’t accepted as genuine. Best of luck to you. Goodbye.
You don’t have to be a Vet here. You have be Patriotic and contribute to our global government sponsored (CIA, FBI, NSA) conspiracy directed at POSERS.
Hell we even high schoolers chipping in!
OVER
Sounds like false threats, Frank.
You are writing more checks your ass never intended to cash.
Frankenwienie says: ‘I have friends who know how to find out who you are even with you fake names’.
Okay. Let me know when you find me. Send Jonn an aerial shot of my house.
HEY, FRANKENSTUPID, DON’T LEAVE ME OUT, YOU DUNDERHEAD!!!
Oh, yes, my RECORD — went back, WAY back, looked it over, shook my head. Nothing on mine to be ashamed of.
Not in the Navy.
Not in 38 years of civilian employment.
Not in college.
Not in 20 years of competing in horse shows and 6 years competing in skating; very low level, but then, I did not start as a child.
Not in 6 years of taking my cats to cat shows. Several Best Household Pet awards there, in fact.
Now, maybe I didn’t make major headlines for shits, giggles and glory, but on the other hand, I never spent time in court explaining myself to a judge over something stupid.
Nope, not even a parking ticket.
I have no idea what he’s driving at, but he sure is pissed of about it.
WOW, I am really impressed. I have nothing to hide either and, in fact, was pretty damn successful. The only difference is that I’m not a shit bag at the ending years of my life. A good career like yours and you join up with a bunch of crackpots like this. What a way to end it all. I’ll bet your wife and kids are REAL PROUD of you or do you HIDE the fact that you go on these websites and make a fool of yourself?
giggle
He’s mad cause Ex-PH2 “dickslapped” him, but GOOD
😀 😀 😀
/lmfao…
//Frank needs GLASSES!!!
I gave your ass-clown buddy my phone number and directions to my door, and he still fucked it up worse than a 12-year old’s wet dream.
Sounds like Jay Kerwin (man-Pussy)and Stermer.
Oh. My. God.
I’ve said the same thing three times and this lame excuse for a shoeshine box painter’s congenital brain frostbite is unable to understand plain ol’ English.
1 – I don’t have a penis.
2 – I have boobs that are obviously bigger than your brain.
3 – I’m a girl, a girlie girl, ande a girl of the XX-chromosome female persuasion.
4 – I was BORN this way.
5 – I like REAL men. I hang out a the doors to ice rinks when the pickup hockey games are over, just to get whiffs of testosterone.
What in the thunderstricken blue-eyed gopher’s tunnel world do I have to do pound it into that dormant organ you have for a brain, Frank, that I AM NOT A MAN BUT I CAN STILL RIP YOUR BALLS OUT OF YOUR CROTCH AND FEED THEM TOO YOU AT GUNPOINT?
You are so abundantly stupid, you don’t even know you’re alive.
Frankie, you just keep piling them on. One lie on top of another. Of course you’re a shitbag at the ending years of your life. You just can’t accept that you aren’t some big time hero. So rather than enjoy what you really accomplished, you have to turn into a huge bag of shit, you worthless glitter monkey.
You are lucky the Marine Corp, BCNR and Courts felt sorry for you and didnt push having your ass locked up for forging government documents.
The only good thing I have to say is that, as far as I know you haven’t tried to pilfer any money from people based on your shitterbaggery. Not that being a lying conniving sack of wrinkly assed shit isnt enough.
Your 8 years of being a lying shitbag have outweighed your honorable service.
Frankie the Shithead First Class says: ‘I have friends who know how to find out who you are even with you fake names’.
Good luck, asshole.
Still waiting on the answer to my question. You are at less than 15 hours, numbnuts.
Just remember one thing, Frankie the Shithead…
To have “friends who know how to find out who you are even with you fake names”, you must have friends first. Sounds like you need to find some first. Which requires being something other than being an asshole…and we just don’t see that happening.
And I stand corrected, 13 hours, 25 minutes left.
Project much, Frankie Boy? I was 1st Cav, not Air Cav though. Served with the 4th BCT 2/227 AVN at a sunny little paradise called Taji in OIF II. No special ops or BSMs. Not even a Purple Heart!!! Can you imagine that? Boy, I feel cheated. Hey, Frank! Maybe you can help me! How about ginning up one of those nifty certificates. Wait a minute. Your forgeries have already been shot down, so forget it. Guess I’ll have to stick with my ol’ hum drum self and just settle for my ARCOM.
C’mon, Frank. What’s the matter? You’re a fraud and liar so everybody must be one? Does that help you top sleep at night and look at your wrinkled mug in the morning?
” I have friends who know how to find out who you are even with you fake names.”
Hell, I’m not hiding. I’m easy to find. I’d welcome your knock on my front door. Are you sure you have the balls to do it though?
Listen fucker, I flew prob. Five hours a day with the Air Cav. For six months in that shit hole called Vietnam. I have no Air Medal. Nor do I care.
You on the other hand, seem to think having medals makes you more of a man. It doesn’t mean shit.
You were a fuck stick then and your a fuck stick now!
Give it up Frank. You were a supply clerk.
Being a Marine should be enough.
OMG, He is going to file for my FOIA. I’m so glad that I’m not a lying piece of shit like him & can back up what is listed at the NPRC with my own dd-214. No ” Self Produced ” documents or citations for me Francis Frankie.
Oh, And before I forget, In case no one has told you before, You’re an IDIOT !
Originally posted by Frank Visconi: Bet most of you have a record you wouldn’t want anyone to see. I have friends who know how to find out who you are even with you fake names. Let’s do a few FOIA’s on some of you. You say that now, but you’d probably feel “short by comparison” if you were to see many of our records. Be careful for what you wish for. Unlike you, those of us without the BSM or any other valor type award/decoration/citation aren’t losing sleep over it. Most of us, whether military, civilian, or both, care more about how well we are at doing our jobs, and how much of a positive impact that has on the mission, organization, and those that we serve/work with. Looking at what you’re actually entitled to, I’d say that you deserve the internet typing beat down that you’re getting on this thread. You have a decent number of Vietnam related ribbons/citations/awards that speak for your combat deployment to Vietnam. This leaves me with this question… What were you thinking when you decided to claim other ribbons/medals/awards? You were already a “bad ass” in the minds of today’s service members, and most Americans, just by being a Vietnam Veteran. But NOOOOOOOOOOO! You had to try to baffle people with bullshit to try to get them to think of you in terms that doesn’t match what you actually did. Without your additional embellishment and lying, the rest of us would’ve looked at what you actually earned, would’ve given you the respect that you rated for serving. Instead, by your claiming awards/decorations/citations that you didn’t earn, you essentially pissed all over your service… earning you the treatment you’re getting here. Take it from my battle in the PSYOP reclass course I attended. His entire military service was in a reserve capacity. No actual active duty orders outside of AT or ADT… strictly weekend training, annual training, and required schools. His statement to the phony he just called out at the gun show, after the later came clean with what he actually did in the… Read more »
I don’t think they’ve necessarily met, thebesig. But apparently Frankie here found a certain purple-tigerstripe-jumpsuit-wearing-fake-SF-fool’s website, and took it as Gospel.
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=41610&cpage=5#comment-1226888
Fools will be fools, I guess.
The whole drive of my post was to show that they’re playing by the same playbook. I wasn’t suggesting that they physically met. 😀
In their desperation to fight back, they do research and stumble on one or more sites they think gives them hope. In some cases, they stumble on each others blogs… or even on each other’s threads here.
Checkmate Frankenweenie,
Stick a fork in your ass you’re done. You can still tell your lies, but you don’t have any legal question as to your awards.
You perhaps said Checkmate too soon; your case for unearned awards has been judicially resolved against you.
Dipshit!
My BSM doesn’t have a v device because I didn’t “self produce” it.
Bet most of you have a record you wouldn’t want anyone to see.
My 214 is available upon request, fuckstick.