Bateman on guns – it’s time to shut up
Several of you have sent us a link today written by Lieutenant Colonel Robert Lake Bateman, who does happen to be an infantry officer and is currently assigned to HQ ARRC in the UK. His article in Esquire is pretty much what we expect to read from hippies at Enquirer, but not from an infantry officer who has sworn to protect and defend the Constitution. Basically, he wants you to own only weapons which were last modern in the late 19th century;
The only guns permitted will be the following:
a. Smoothbore or Rifled muzzle-loading blackpowder muskets. No 7-11 in history has ever been held up with one of these.
b. Double-barrel breech-loading shotguns. Hunting with these is valid.
c. Bolt-action rifles with a magazine capacity no greater than five rounds. Like I said, hunting is valid. But if you cannot bring down a defenseless deer in under five rounds, then you have no fking reason to be holding a killing tool in the first place.
If you think that gun ownership is limited to hunting, you have no f*cking reason to be participating in this debate, Bobbie.
We will pry your gun from your cold, dead, fingers. That is because I am willing to wait until you die, hopefully of natural causes. Guns, except for the three approved categories, cannot be inherited. When you die your weapons must be turned into the local police department, which will then destroy them. (Weapons of historical significance will be de-milled, but may be preserved.)
So, when you die, your gun dies with you. Never mind that you’ve invested thousands in your collection and you’d hoped it would be part of your legacy for your children and on down the line like Americans have done for genrations, Bobbie says ‘no’, so you can’t, and just because some woman shot another person over the results of a sports match. It’s not her fault, it’s all of us.
Police departments are no longer allowed to sell or auction weapons used in crimes after the cases have been closed. (That will piss off some cops, since they really need this money. But you know what they need more? Less violence and death. By continuing the process of weapon recirculation, they are only making their jobs — or the jobs of some other cops — harder.)
I say we stop buy back programs, because they don’t do anything anyway except those those cheapo Saturday night into drug cash for users. But, Bobbie, in his infinite wisdom, thinks they work, so he wants to expand the program;
We will initiate a nationwide “buy-back” program, effective immediately, with the payouts coming from the DoD budget. This buy-back program will start purchasing weapons at 200 percent of their face value the first year, 150 percent the second year, 100 percent the third year. Thereafter there will be a 10 year pause, at which point the guns can be sold to the government at 10 percent of their value for the next 50 years.
Yeah, because that’s what the DoD does so well – operate social welfare programs. Dumbass.
We will submit a new tax on ammunition. In the first two years it will be 400 percent of the current retail cost of that type of ammunition. (Exemptions for the ammo used by the approved weapons.) Thereafter it will increase by 20 percent per year.
Taxes are always a solution. Personally, I have several years worth of ammo to maintain my training for the day Bobbie decides to come for my guns.
The major gun manufactures of the United States, less those who create weapons for the federal government and the armed forces, will be bought out by the United States of America, for our own damned good.
Because the Federal Government always knows what’s best for us and always acts in our interests, right, Bobbie? Take healthcare for example.
It’s come to my attention that little Bobbie Bateman has taken to threatening people who disagree with him. Threaten me, Bobbie.
These opinions are those of the author and do not reflect the United States government, the United States Department of Defense, the United States Army, or any other official body. As for the NRA, they can sit on it.
They can’t sit on it while you have it jammed up your ass, Bobbie, you pole-smoking Leftist freak. Like I said, he’s got his Hello Kitties underoos bunched because some halfwit woman shot someone over the outcome of the Alabama game the other day. Millions of gun owners didn’t shoot anyone that day, including me, but apparently Bobbie Bateman wants to punish the tens of millions of gun owners because one was a moron. Do you think someone that stupid will turn in their guns so Bobbie will stop wetting his panties? Seriously?
Shut up, Bateman, you’re just another hand-wringing pussy from the Left.
Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists
He said that HR McMaster was the one taking this pic.
From his Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/robert.bateman.374
Correction: (And so are JPFO and John McManus.)
So I emailed this turd, asking for his CV, commands held, awards/decs, etc. I was fairly nice and professional about it, too.
Here’s his reply:
thebronze,
Look it up yourself.
Started out as an honest infantryman, then became an FA-59 just before the wars started. I don’t doubt that there are a lot of better, and more worthy, infantrymen of all ranks. Men who are (and were) more adept than me at all the skills involved in the tactical delivery of violence. I do doubt that there are many better FA-59s. Some, but not many. Planning at the Operational and Strategic level is management of violence on a pretty large scale.
And what was your MOS? Where did you serve, etc?
You may disagree with my analysis, but let us focus on that debate rather than getting into a dick-measuring contest about my qualifications as a US Army Strategist. Unless, of course, you are also closely familiar with Strategists? In which case, I’d be happy to engage in a critique of my functional area, and your belief that you are a better strategist than I am, but then you would have to give me your qualifications as a strategist.
So, if you want to have a debate about the Second Amendment, I’m hear to listen and argue. Obviously we both have some pretty strong opinions about the topic.
With regard,
Bob Bateman
PS~ You don’t need to use my rank. You’re retired and LTC is not exactly such an exalted rank that one needs to stand upon it. “Bob” will do just fine.
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So he doesn’t want to give his CV, but asks me for mine. Douche.
“Started out as an honest infantryman…”
Then went baaaaaad.
@151 Thats my job taking the unfriendly fire! Its time president Obama cleanse the office corps of misfits and extremests. Like the posters here. It would not surprise me if one of you were the ones who dropped the napalm on the little burning vietnamese girl who was shown running naked down the road in agony. Here are some of the questions to sort the wheat from the chaffe. 1 Do you think president Obama was a muslim born in kenya? 2 Did president Obama order the getting of bin ladin or was it fos news ? 3 Are you now or have you ever been a member of the republican party? 4 Are you now or have you ever been a tea bagger? 5 Was sandy hook massacre faked by Obama to take away your guns? 6 Are you now or have you ever been a card carrying member of the nra? Do you think sarah pailin is ignorant white trailor court trash? This should clear the military of undisirables in a hurry!
@152 I’m pretty sure I know who that cocksucker is, now that I’ve seen the picture. He’s a Grade-A turdburgler if it’s the same guy I remember from USFI.
#113
If you think you were the first person to come up with ideas like that, I have some bad news for you.
Then I have more bad news: it wouldn’t work anyway.
Non-gunnies talking about their simple solution to guns are like basement dwellers of the Spacebattles forum talking about the easy way to defeat D-Day.
@156
It would not surprise me if one of you were the ones who dropped the napalm on the little burning vietnamese girl who was shown running naked down the road in agony.
I would be surprised. I think all the veterans who commonly post on this site served in the U.S. military.
As for the rest of your post… you keep up your ignorant racist rants, it’s what makes you liberal.
vwp:
Traffic. Go play in it.
VWP isn’t a liberal.
He’s a fascist. He wants to impose his values by force on everyone else.
Luckily, he’s also stupid as a box of hair.
Ex-PH2: Actually, I think vwp is more like the Ferryman’s retarded assistant. Lemuel.
http://famouscenes.com/video/Outlaw-Josie-Wales-Missoura-Boa
(forward to about 8:40)
As I so patiently explained in PLAIN, LEGIBLE ENGLISH, to the ignorant ass that styles itself vwptwatwaffle, the village was bombed BY THE GODDAMN VIETNAMESE AIR FORCE, YOU ASSHOLE. IT WAS NOT BOMBED BY US FORCES.
You are one ignorant, stupid, illiterate, dimwitted shithole, but only one of many like you. Do you ever bother to look up the facts? No. That will inconvenience you and prove you wrong every time, you dickless codpiece licker.
@162, you could be right.
So, will anyone rid us of the pestilence known as vwpusbucket?
@163
Aww, c’mon, Ex-PH2… don’t be so shy. Tell us how you REALLY feel.
@159 Who do you think napalmed that child the good tooth fairey?
@166, Are you really that illiterate?
Just tell me how many times I have to repeat that it was the GODDAMN FUCKING VIETNAMESE AIR FORCE THAT BOMBED THAT VILLAGE, until you get it into that dormant organ you have for a brain.
TRY TAKING A REMEDIAL READING COURSE, ASSHOLE. MAYBE YOU’LL LEARN SOMETHING.
@166, I fess up. I napalmed that kid when I was 5 years old. I flew my lil’ red wagon to Nam and dropped it on her.
No, not really.
You are nothing but entertainment here, Thanks for keeping thinks alive since wick-tard doesn’t post much anymore.
@166
I know who did it. And it wasn’t the US military.
Only hateful, disgusting, anti-American leeches like yourself think it was.
Pretty sure a major publication did an interview with that girl. Maybe worth looking into vwp?
Great now I have to ask around about Mr. Bateman. The way he throws “strategic” around gives me the feeling that he may have been a terminal staff officer. I get the infantry roots, but to much time with his head in the clouds. . .
Wow, Mad Mike Williamson shows up at This Ain’t Hell? He reference the Spacebattles forum, which I frequent? Small world.
I’m a civilian, and I honestly don’t get how his grand plan would even work. Prohibition showed that banning something which is popular will only drive it underground. And has he never even considered the main reason people own firearms, all across the world? The Iraqi man with his AK or the security guard outside Bateman’s base with his sidearm or even MZW’s adorable daughter with her pink AR-15 all own guns for self-defense and protection of others.
Yet the only thing he seems concerned with is hunting. This logic would be be unacceptable in a high school paper.
If Obowelmovement had a LTC, he would be just like Bateman.
Bateman go die a miserable death, you’re no American.
@166 Wow, VWPissant, you nailed it! The US Military bombed the village you refer to, just like they practiced biowarfare in the 1400s by spreading bubonic plague through Europe’s innocent rodent population. And forced millions of Ukrainians to starve to death in the 1920s. And committed terrorism on a massive scale in burning Rome to the ground during the peaceful reign of the Benevolent Humanitarian Emperor Nero. And slaughtered thousands of innocent Muslims when Jerusalem was conquered in the 10th Century. And deliberately targeted and killed the firstborn sons of every Egyptian family over a minor political dispute. And cruelly firebombed the Spanish Basque city of Guèrnica in 1937 in support of the mad dictator Franco. And carried out dozens of mass-murders in Poland and Hungary in the 40s and 50s. And killed 1.5 million people in China with weaponized anthrax. Yep, Uncle Sam waved the Stars&Stripes over each of these atrocities with an evil capitalist smirk on his face.
Oh yeah, except that’s not what happened. The correct answers to each of these, respectively, are:
-South Vietnamese ARVN/RVNAF
-Nature (cruel and heartless bitch)
-Stalin
-Unknown arsonist
-The French
-God (He does not fuck around when you piss Him off)
-Hitler
-Stalin again
-The Japanese
There ya go, VWPieceOfShit, you just learned something. You’re welcome, dickshitter. Merry Christmas. Maybe next time you feel like opening you cock holster you’ll remember this experience and decide not to embarrass yourself further. Well, knowing you, probably not.
And regarding your taste in entertainment, I take it you also enjoy Japanese rape porn, you twisted fuck.
@173, in regard to Nero and Rome burning, the arsonist is indeed unknown, but it was done at Nero’s behest. He literally ordered the slums to be burned to clear land for his personal pleasure palace villa. Unfortunately, because marble and limestone are both carbon-based stone, they also burn. The fire got out of hand, but he watched and played with his instrument.
@ Eagle Keeper, you know what comes up when you google “29 palms gun survey”? A shit load of links to sites using it as proof positive that Uncle Same is out to confiscate your guns, and bring in the UN…. So excuse me for jumping the gun on you if that was not your intent.
@164 – don’t worry, I am sure that VWP will off himself by looking up during a rainstorm sometime, forget to close his mouth and drown.
George Zimmerman was the second gunman on the grassy knoll, and personally campaigned for Reagan for president.
Reagan created handguns to repress black people.
GW Bush shot Lincoln, then created Bechtel to burn his military records.
Wow, this tool gets better and better! From his reply to thebronze:
“You may disagree with my analysis, but let us focus on that debate rather than getting into a dick-measuring contest about my qualifications as a US Army Strategist. Unless, of course, you are also closely familiar with Strategists? In which case, I’d be happy to engage in a critique of my functional area, and your belief that you are a better strategist than I am, but then you would have to give me your qualifications as a strategist.”
Well, considering that you refuse to provide a CV, why should anyone else provide their qualifications?
“So, if you want to have a debate about the Second Amendment, I’m hear to listen and argue. Obviously we both have some pretty strong opinions about the topic.”
Here/hear – differences. Learn them.
“PS~ You don’t need to use my rank. You’re retired and LTC is not exactly such an exalted rank that one needs to stand upon it. “Bob” will do just fine.”
If “Bob” will do just fine, maybe you shouldn’t have used the LTC as a crutch to bolster your credibility when writing on an issue about which you’re obviously ignorant.
Douchebag.
Gee Nicki, calling him out on his discrepancies is kind of mean. C’mon, just because he refers to himself as a Ranger/Grunt every fucking chance he gets to bolster his pitiful arguments doesn’t mean you should hold him to a standard.
Like I stated earlier, this guy drinks his own bath water and it is highly unlikely he believes his opinions are the end of the discussion. I was reading his comments section to his blog about hanging Robert E. Lee for treason and whenever he was presented with a decent rebuttal to his arguments, he disappeared, only to reappear several comments later and go after easier targets.
He is a doucherocket with extra rocket fuel.
Meant to say he believes his opinions are the end of the discussion. Damn you fat fingers!!!! DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!
I do read for content as well as context. I found these two things to be VERRRRRY interesting, coming from Bateman.
‘dick-measuring contest’ and ‘a critique of my functional area’. I almost missed it, but now I do see what bateman the bold is really going on about. I truly do.
He has – dare I say it? a phobia about being compared to others in regard to his lack of male prowess, his impotence-laden fears, his nagging perception that he may be considered — well, inadequate. It’s not just low testosterone, it’s lack of inches in certain areas.
Guns can be seen as a sort of competition for someone like this, mostly because if you put your finger on the trigger and pull hard, you get discharge and a lot of noise.
Let’s face it. Bateman, already filled with post-second divorce angst, is more than aware that he is unable to satisfy women in any way at all (which is why he’s been left behind twice). He has very likely been deemed ‘not a real man’ and/or compared to ‘real men’, of which he sees quite a few on a daily basis, and he just can’t stand it.
Take their guns away, and he’ll be the only ‘real’ man standing.
Well, happiness IS a warm gun.
From his small wars bio.
“and has taught Military History at the U.S. Military Academy”.
Bet there was an interesting slant to that class.
@177: Dude, you forgot the CIA inventing the AIDS virus to annihilate the black population. Shame on you!
@166: VWP, you ignorant slut. If you had 3 working braincells, you would know that the iconic picture of the Vietnamese girl burned in the napalm attack was taken after South Vietnamese Air Forces bombed the area, not US forces.
Gadammit, you are a seriously fucked up pile of dogshit, VWP. You are a liar and a dumbass, which is a very dangerous combination. You claim to know all sorts of shit, but in reality, you couldn’t find your ass with both hands and a GPS. You aren’t old enough to have protested the Vietnam War, like you claim in your screen name, because even someone that old would have copped a fucking clue by now. If you are that old, then you need to have adult supervision on a 24/7 basis, because you’re too fucking stupid to wander around unsupervised in the general public.
What a fucking moron.
@ 149: I think he was saying that his wife cheated on him a second time, not that he was getting rid of his second ex-wife.
@179 You nailed it Master Guns, the guy got called out on the FB comments after he falsely accuse a retired SF Vet of being a phony Vietnam vet and he disappeared like the coward he is. He tried to denigrate the guys awards, mocked the guy for having an MSM as his highest award, which also turned out to be not true (guy had a Bronze Star for DS). Then I called his ass out told him his name isn’t listed as receiving Silver Star, DFC or MOH so what was his highest award, Bronze Star for merit like most staff fucks? Yeah….still waiting for him to answer.
According to folks who know him, the last time he was in an actual infantry unit, he was a 2LT.
Jonn, He apparently went to the FA-59 (so called strategists) field very quickly. The West Point Protective Association taking care of its own.
I can see him being “promoted” to work in the S-3 very quickly where the only thing he was partially in charge of were a few unlucky clerks and a computer.
There is a telling bit in one of his stories where he relates that his Bn Commander called him in about his “writings”. The way he describes it the BC was encouraging him and telling him to keep thinking outside the box. The way it probably went down was the BC was trying to get it through his head that he was a 2nd Lt, not Clauswitz, so he shouldn’t think so highly of himself.
I see the fruedian connection between him wanting to have guns banned and his lack of masculinity. He thinks if guns are banned it will level the playing field between him and other males. Sorry dude, you still have the smaller dick, otherwise your old lady wouldn’t have been looking elsewhere,
I guess I’m out.
So I responded to his letter with this:
“Look it up yourself.”
Nice dodge, Bob.
So basically you’re a writer and a talker, not a do’er. As I suspected.
Sorry, you don’t get mine, since I didn’t get yours. Look it up yourself.
And as far as supposedly being a friend of Rescorla’s. No way would he be friends with a dick-bag like you.
thebronze
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Then he responded with calling me a Stolen Valor person and questions my service, just like he’s done with others:
thebronze,
I suppose the inside cover of your copy of We Were Soldiers Once…And Young, looks like this: (see attachment) (Which is a general book-signing paragraph like any author would write to somebody).
Want pictures? Oh heck, just google “Bateman Rescorla.” But you probably already did that, didn’t you kid?
Face it you have no moral courage. I had the courage to sign my Op-Ed and give you my military bio, you don’t even seem to be able to muster the moral courage to do anything more than sign your name to an e-mail from “thebronze” Thus, I extremely doubt you are in the military, or ever were. You are a Stolen Valor candidate of the first order.
Bob Bateman
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He says he gave me his military bio, but yet he didn’t and told me to look it up myself.
What a cunt.
@173
You forgot about when the US Military committed genocide of an unprecedented level by directing an asteroid at what is now the Yucatan peninsula.
@190
He really is a fuck bucket. Sounds like he likes to call out other vets who dare to question his bonafides. And he does not play nice. Questions your service right out of the gate. What a tool.
It’s his fucking MO alright. He’s been called out several times on FB to put up or shut up with regards to his bona fides and he scurries off like a limp dick bitch.
White people wiped out the Neanderthals.
@173, you forgot about US Military Personnel traveling back in time to direct an asteroid into what’s now the Arizona desert in order to render countless innocent dinosaurs extinct!!
@190 This tool bag wrote columns for Media Matters, can’t get much further left than that. Fucking Soros funded lie generator. Got this gem from one of his columns, supposedly when he was hanging out with Rick Rescorla at the 7th Cav reunions;
“We would talk much more later, and I would listen as he and others told their stories, but that was our first contact. He apparently knew something of me though. He asked me to wait a moment, got himself a drink, and sat staring into the middle distance for a moment. When he handed my copy back, the inscription read: “To: Captain Bob Bateman / Old Dogs and Wild Geese are Fighting / Head for the Storm / As you faced it before / For where there is the 7th / There’s bound to be fighting / And where there’s no fighting / It’s the 7th no more. / Best, / Rick Rescorla, Hard Corps One-Six [his radio call sign in Vietnam]”
Is that what was inside the book cover he showed you?
#194- Cheney personally killed off all the dinosaurs so they would become oil.
Pretty sure that he had plenty of time to hone his writing skills starting at “Small Wars Journal”. Just saying this is far from the first drivel that he has written. I love this part. “Lieutenant Colonel Robert L. Bateman is an infantryman, historian and prolific writer.”
His writing, so far as I have read, is bland at best.
Simply put if you want to live in a society with highly restrictive gun laws then why not live somewhere that already has such laws. Oh, being he is already in the U.K. maybe he ought to just stay there.
Does anyone else find it off putting that a retired LTC has gone from “defending freedom” to attacking it?
MR. Blue,
False, that was Chuck Norris.
@198 It’s actually worse than that, this dick bag is still on Active Duty.
@200 So how is it that a Marine NCO gets shitcanned for saying publicly that he will keep his oath and refuse to follow an unconstitutional order, yet an Army officer can publicly say shit like this and nothing happens to the fucker? Is it because he’s an officer? Or is it because he’s a fucking liberal fascist like our current president?
@200&201
I haven’t found anything stating that he is active. If he is in fact active, possible, he is significantly reducing his ability to be taken seriously. Any time a “leader” puts out a bunch of pseudo-intelligent, political ramblings you are setting yourself up for failure. Pretty much by doing what he has done he is pulling a “Wickre”. Anyone who he would be going to work for in the future, military or civilian, will undoubtedly run across this literary diarrhea.