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Dead people who had their SV exposed post-mortem. In or out?
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I thought the past precedent was that the tourney “participants” had to be living. Ballduster got an exception because his demise was discovered several months after his “stirring victory”.
Besides, if I’m gonna pony up for the winner’s “award” – I sure as hell ain’t gonna deliver to a graveyard. Or to the infernal regions. (smile)
That’s what I thought too, just figured I would ask.
I would say “out”; let them be in their eternal unrest…
excluded. but we could do like the Oscars/Emmys and mention them briefly “in memoriam”.
Out – on the basis that the surviving family members already suffered or celebrated once at the demise of their not so truthful individual.
Out.
Out…..weak sauce…..I mean unless you’re in to necrophilia.
Living turds need to be heeled down the drain, right Green Thumb??
We have enough bloody idiots on our hands.
Out, out, damned spots.
I say out but concur with Andy and say we do a stirring In Memoriam segment. So we can hate them in perpetuity….
Out.
Out.
I am also leaving out Cap’n Crunch on account of him being a cereal.
@12.
That video was funny.
@12 TSO and General Mills as well?
/seein’ as how he’s a corporation.
Out.
Out, with memoriam
In! Hound these suckers all the way to the gates of Hell.
@14- General Mills is a real guy (Commander of Marine Reserve Forces):
http://www.marforres.marines.mil/MFRNews/PressReleaseView/tabid/7933/Article/148560/lt-gen-richard-p-mills-to-assume-command-of-marine-forces-reserve-and-marine-fo.aspx
Out
Out
Dead people are out.
They are already dead.
They don’t feel pain … so it does not matter … and quite frankly … why drag the family thorough it!
Maybe make a special Tab at TAH for “Already Dead Valor Thieves”
Out. I don’t think that any of them could even make it into the initial seeding anyway, based on some of the asshattery that we’ve seen just in the past few months. Hell, if they haven’t threatened to sue, they are going to the TAH NIT equivalent at this point.
I’m going to say “Out”. The point of this is to find the biggest living phony, after all, so that’s what we should be doing.
You could do a In Memoriam like they do at the Oscars every year…
@17: The problem is that the people being “hounded” are not the lying vet but his family, who, in most cases, was not aware of the lie. Doesn’t seem right to drag their deceased loved one’s memory through the mud. The lying poser might have deserved such treatment, his bereaved family does not.
So I say out, for that reason.
Out, plenty of participants to fill brackets from here to See-attle.
I meant to say living participants.
I think you will find the answer to this difficult question within your response to this:
Would you nominate Philip Seymour Hoffman to receive the “Heroin User of the Year Award?”
YES or NO
@12, what? you are leaving Captain Crunch out? But that would be great if he won. it’s like when the internet gets together and votes for something like that just to troll everyone. except in this case if he won, we would be trolling the posers. I demand Captain Crunch be included in this years tourney!
Case by case. I would say that if they’re buried in a veteran’s cemetery and/or have a bunch of fake crap on their tombstone, go for it. Otherwise, no. But this is just from a civilian.
Nah. Out. They’re hopefully roasting in hell with Satan’s barbed wire cock continuously violating their rectums. Much better than anything we could do. 🙂
Out. Also, what appears to be stolen valor sometimes results from a confused family member putting wrong information in the obituary. Sometimes it’s clear that the bad info came from the deceased, but often there’s no way to tell.
Out
OUT
Out, with Memoriam.
I would say out, unless their claim was so eggregious as to warrant an exception to policy. Or they’re a zombie in a uniform. You see a lot of those on The Walking dead.
Out.
My humble vote…OUT. They are dead and gone and nothing can be done except perhaps hurt, unknowing family left behind. My thoughts are for those families not the perpetrator of the Stolen Valor. IMHO
Only if especially egregious…
…out, but maybe a special award for a dead and gone poser??? sort of the lifetime achievement thing?? just an idea…
I’m glad I can still access this out in the field….
@40 CWO5USMC Good idea sir.
Going with the out/memoriam.
OUT
I say OUT. Their families have already suffered the indignity of the posers’ actions.
Are y’all saying Captain Crunch ain’t for real? *NOOOOOOOO!* Next y’all will be telling me Crunch Berries don’t grow on trees!! 😉
Out, unless their buried at Arlington. Then all bets are off.
@44-Well he does wear a Commander’s stripes (I’m not kidding; look at any picture of him there is). No real US Navy Captain would make that screwup. Jonn, could you get a FOIA going on “Captain” Horatio Magellan Crunch? His POB is Crunch Island, Sea of Milk. I’ll work on getting his DOB. 😀
Generally out, for all the reasons stated above. As a mere civilian on this and all things, I defer to those who have served.
But, I do have a few caveats. If the poser got themselves buried with honors they didn’t deserve, an dishonorable mention and possible disinterment out of a National cemetery, depending on the severity and harm they caused. For example, any of the dirtbags (now, literally) who caused direct harm to other vets by their lies. Such as gaining trust in counseling those who did serve and earn what the liars claimed, or those who prevented other deserving vets to lose out on opportunities either directly or indirectly with their lies.
Another possible remedy is having their headstone ‘corrected’ to reflect actual rank and awards, or lack there of. Not to be insensitive to their families, but to be sensitive to the vast majority of families and veterans whose stones accurately reflect their service, with the honor and respect those veterans-and their families- so richly deserve.
Out. I think that the recipients should be living but a post-mortem award would be appropriate.
Out…and stay out…their karma is coming from above.
What Pineywoods NCO said, DITTO!!