Bateman on guns – it’s time to shut up
Several of you have sent us a link today written by Lieutenant Colonel Robert Lake Bateman, who does happen to be an infantry officer and is currently assigned to HQ ARRC in the UK. His article in Esquire is pretty much what we expect to read from hippies at Enquirer, but not from an infantry officer who has sworn to protect and defend the Constitution. Basically, he wants you to own only weapons which were last modern in the late 19th century;
The only guns permitted will be the following:
a. Smoothbore or Rifled muzzle-loading blackpowder muskets. No 7-11 in history has ever been held up with one of these.
b. Double-barrel breech-loading shotguns. Hunting with these is valid.
c. Bolt-action rifles with a magazine capacity no greater than five rounds. Like I said, hunting is valid. But if you cannot bring down a defenseless deer in under five rounds, then you have no fking reason to be holding a killing tool in the first place.
If you think that gun ownership is limited to hunting, you have no f*cking reason to be participating in this debate, Bobbie.
We will pry your gun from your cold, dead, fingers. That is because I am willing to wait until you die, hopefully of natural causes. Guns, except for the three approved categories, cannot be inherited. When you die your weapons must be turned into the local police department, which will then destroy them. (Weapons of historical significance will be de-milled, but may be preserved.)
So, when you die, your gun dies with you. Never mind that you’ve invested thousands in your collection and you’d hoped it would be part of your legacy for your children and on down the line like Americans have done for genrations, Bobbie says ‘no’, so you can’t, and just because some woman shot another person over the results of a sports match. It’s not her fault, it’s all of us.
Police departments are no longer allowed to sell or auction weapons used in crimes after the cases have been closed. (That will piss off some cops, since they really need this money. But you know what they need more? Less violence and death. By continuing the process of weapon recirculation, they are only making their jobs — or the jobs of some other cops — harder.)
I say we stop buy back programs, because they don’t do anything anyway except those those cheapo Saturday night into drug cash for users. But, Bobbie, in his infinite wisdom, thinks they work, so he wants to expand the program;
We will initiate a nationwide “buy-back” program, effective immediately, with the payouts coming from the DoD budget. This buy-back program will start purchasing weapons at 200 percent of their face value the first year, 150 percent the second year, 100 percent the third year. Thereafter there will be a 10 year pause, at which point the guns can be sold to the government at 10 percent of their value for the next 50 years.
Yeah, because that’s what the DoD does so well – operate social welfare programs. Dumbass.
We will submit a new tax on ammunition. In the first two years it will be 400 percent of the current retail cost of that type of ammunition. (Exemptions for the ammo used by the approved weapons.) Thereafter it will increase by 20 percent per year.
Taxes are always a solution. Personally, I have several years worth of ammo to maintain my training for the day Bobbie decides to come for my guns.
The major gun manufactures of the United States, less those who create weapons for the federal government and the armed forces, will be bought out by the United States of America, for our own damned good.
Because the Federal Government always knows what’s best for us and always acts in our interests, right, Bobbie? Take healthcare for example.
It’s come to my attention that little Bobbie Bateman has taken to threatening people who disagree with him. Threaten me, Bobbie.
These opinions are those of the author and do not reflect the United States government, the United States Department of Defense, the United States Army, or any other official body. As for the NRA, they can sit on it.
They can’t sit on it while you have it jammed up your ass, Bobbie, you pole-smoking Leftist freak. Like I said, he’s got his Hello Kitties underoos bunched because some halfwit woman shot someone over the outcome of the Alabama game the other day. Millions of gun owners didn’t shoot anyone that day, including me, but apparently Bobbie Bateman wants to punish the tens of millions of gun owners because one was a moron. Do you think someone that stupid will turn in their guns so Bobbie will stop wetting his panties? Seriously?
Shut up, Bateman, you’re just another hand-wringing pussy from the Left.
Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists
Dear Bateman,
I was never in the Infantry, but I’m still calling you a pussy because I’m more of a man than you could ever hope to be. Mostly because I am not afraid of inanimate pieces of metal like you are.
9-1-1 sandy hook tapes that didn’t get released! Adam lanza thanks nra for stopping ban on assault rifles and large magazines. BANG BANG BANG! You almost got to me woman principal! Oh your still alive. BANG BANG BANG! Hi kiddies santa claus is here with a big surprise. BANG BANG BANG! Mommy mommy! BANG BANG BANG! Thanks again nra BANG BANG BANG!
Well, as the Spartans used to say way back when: If you want ’em, come and get ’em.
And I love his lame dig at the NRA in his disclaimer. “Sit on it”? Who the fuck says “Sit on it” besides Richie Cunningham? What a jackass, just more proof that most officers are a waster of carbon (believe me, I used to be one, I would know…)
Awww look. VWP is done with his time out and mommy let him back on the computer! How cuuttteee!
If he’s so ambiguous about his profession–as he says he is–maybe it’s time for him to resign. Somehow I doubt he’s as good at his job as he thinks he is.
For one thing, the 1903 militia act divides the militia into two parts–the organized militia, or National Guard, and the unorganized militia, which is basically everybody else. It’s one of the reasons the draft is legal.
And the Founders are quite clear in their writings–the second ammendment right was always intended to be an individual right. While I agree with him about the fact that gun violence is much more than I’d like to see it in this country (but much better than in many other countries), I’m not willing to scrap the second ammendment to do it.
Or perhaps, I should say, I am willing to scrap the second ammendment–and before everyone gets upset, by that I mean let those who don’t like gun ownership attempt to repeal it. It will never get through the Congress, or through the states. But our Constitution has a process for ammending it; if you don’t like something in it, you can change it–if there is the popular support to do so.
I get really tired of people who feel that they need to find a way around something, rather than take the straight-up option of trying to change things through legitimate processes.
And I say this as a resident of the wonderful state of Maryland. Where the only AR-15 you can now buy has to have a ten round magazine and a 20 inch heavy (match grade) barrel. Not that it matters, my wife won’t let me buy one anyway. Even though I’ll need it during the Zombie Apocalypse . . .
He’s been over there to long drinking the kool-aid, and, he’s obviously never embraced the fact that he’s a killer. Too bad for the troops under him in combat; probably refreshing for them too know there CO is uncomfortable with killing and delivering violence. He needs to be cashiered and shown the door.
Who is this fucking moron? I’m no Infantryman, but I’m with NR Pax! This dude is a pussified piece of shit!
Fuckin dumbass…
VWP … It is almost beer 30 … I have to go, your response is sick, so I leave you my video response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v6q00uD9SE
This man is so Infantry, they sent him to fight in Britain….
Bateman is true patriot who stands up to gun nuts like you! More unreleased 9-1-1 tapes. Adam lanza hi teach BANG BANG BANG! You thought hiding under th teacher would save you little rascals. BANG BANG BANG! Oh we got somemore of you little rascals hiding under the desk. BANG BANG BANG!
@10- Aww, it’s so cute when they let the short-bus kids use the computer.
He epically fails to fully grasp the Dick Act and all three major amendments to it which basically federalized the idea of a state militia. The first in 1916 basically authorized the militia to be drafted into federal service. The 1920 amendment authorized that when active they are entitled to the same federal benefits as regular army and also stated that if demobilized by POTUS and they still had obligated time on their state militia enlistment that they still had to do that state militia time unless they weren’t “able body” anymore. The start of the final nails on his argument is the 1933 amendment, which at its heart made all the NG officers regular Army officers in a reserve capacity. Most legal scholars on this state that this effectively did away with the Dick Act since it removed the control of the militia from the governors and placed them basically at the whim of POTUS to active or deactivate. It was this amendment that gave Ike the legal authority to activate all the state militias in the Dixiecrat controlled States and use them to enforce the rulings on desegregation.
Oh and as towards his other proposed ideas. Google “taxes, cigarette, New York, smuggling” and see that the idea of higher “sin taxes” would remove something is false premise. The statist ideas of nationalized manufacturing companies is something that comes from fascists, socialist and communists.
To this Bateman prick and VWPussy:
If you’re coming for mine, you better bring yours. In fact, you might also wanna bring a friend or two…hundred.
On that note, as far as I’m concerned, keeping my property, safety, and freedom is worth my life and the lives of any who would take them away. What’s it worth to you?
Are you willing to put your money where your mouth is and come knocking on my door yourself? Or are you one of those liberal heroes who would compel some cop or soldier to be your reluctant henchman?
If your answer to (A) is yes, then MOLON LABE, come get some.
If you prefer option B, then shut the hell up, you loathesome fucking coward.
Bobby — good to know which side you’re on. Molon Labe, you spineless f*ck.
VWP: G get your meds adjusted. Your schizophrenia is showing.
There are an awful lot of field grade Army officers whose pussies leak at the thought of guns. How does that happen?
He’s also taken to denigrating other vets in comments, and making racist and homophobic statements.
Gee cheez-whiz, vwpussy’s cheese has really slid off it cracker now, and is on its way out the door!
Bobby Bateman = control freak = you can’t have something or do something without my say-so and I won’t give it unless I feel like and get a free lap dance out of it. He is decidedly in the midst of an epic OCD attack, isn’t he?
And to think I spent the bulk of the day at the shop, getting my valve cover gaskets replaced! I could have been here, but I was there!
Well, my response is ‘Yeah, wait until the naziones show up in your neighborhood, Bobby. And you will have no way to get rid of them, but you WILL get to watch while they slaughter your family.’
Oh, wait – wasn’t that in Warsaw ghettos?
BTW, at 200% of “Face value,” which is not a valid legal term, but moving on, it would cost about $300 billion to buy all the firearms.
DoD would get this money where?
Well, it’s one way of getting a promotion to Full Bull and perhaps even a White House Fellowship like Colin Powell.
I keep on telling people, being a POG is really more of a lifestyle than an MOS. A supply clerk could be one badass mofo when the FOB gets hit while he’s doing tower guard, and in that case that supply clerk is certainly NOT a POG. An 11B could be a whiny little b**** about the DFAC running out of cheese, and in that case that 11B is the very definition of POG. I don’t care if this guy is an infantry officer – he’s a dirty, filthy POG of the first order.
That being said, hey Bateman, there are millions of veteran gun owners in this country with the same training, if not more, than any of your joes. Send them to my front door, I dare you.
Bateman-perhaps you would care to explain why mass shooting are at an all time low and the homicide rate has declined from 5.7 per 100000 to 4.7 per 100000 since 2004 ( the last full year the federal assault weapons ban was active), and the number of homicides per year are even declining numerically by a few hundred a year? I respect everyone’s opinion, and veterans’ more than most, but if your evidence in support of your solution consists of one crazy asswipe shooting two people over some minor dispute, than ascribing that tendency to all gun owners is pure ad hominem horseshit.
MY guns go to MY son when I die of old age!
I’m sure this faggot doesn’t take a shit without an entourage of PSD on guard.
Eat a dick, Bro.
How come there are more people of all ages killed in vehicular accidents of every kind, every month, than people killed with guns of any kind?
Clearly a brown-noser bucking for General. He needs to got shopping for Panties at Victoria’s Secret with General Amos and swap cookie recipes. Bitch.
As near as I can tell, the only slot for Bateman in that organization is in the operations shop, so thankfully he doesn’t have any troops at the moment, except maybe some go-fers to keep his tea warm. But, it looks like he went native and it’s time for him to come home.
Is he Airborne and Ranger Qualified? He says he is in another article.
Dingdammit, this gives 0-5’s of all ilks a bad name and I for one am miffed. Every time a douchenozzle like this vents his mud valve and off loads a gooey dump of nothingness, I’m compelled to buy a new gun in a caliber I don’t have, then I have to chase around for ammo that nobody has. FFS, I already have a .257 Roberts Ackley Improved that I have to reload for, what’s next, a Nitro 500 express?
@24 Old Dog – Bingo! Buckin’ for a star … this one will go far under the the current POTUS. I’m thinking he sits when he pees. He wouldn’t make a decent pimple on a real grunts butt cheeks.
Discussing the matter personal weapon registration with the PMO was always a good litmus test with leadership. There’s always someone who thinks soldiers ought to register all of the serial numbers of their guns and their mom’s guns even though said guns are in a permanent residence in another state.
@15, 17: Oh hai. Just wanted to tell you I loved your ‘you liberal poopbags threw me under the bus’ blog post.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/what-an-oath-means
Here’s another gem by this ass-clown saying Robert E Lee Should have been hanged for breaking his oath to the U.S.
This piece of shit is scary. He is the type of autocratic ass-kisser who would think nothing of having soldiers in his command shoot protesters or confiscate firearms. He would have made a great officer in the Gestapo.
@27 – No, a 20mm Rhino rifle w/ integrated bipod and recoil buffers.
Or, how about a GE M-134 Minigun?
Well LTC Bateman, “kiss my ass”, and go ahead and send your damned POG’s to this combat vets front door.
@31 Here you go for $215,000.
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2009/10/21/ge-m134-mini-gun-fully-transferable/
What I would give to own one!
@15 – Hey Sgt. Williamson, good to see you around. I was in the 181st with you back in the mid-2000’s.
What The F@ck???
He’s a field grade and an infantry officer??
Get The F@ck Out….LOSER.
No one is going to take my guns away….jackass.
If that fat bastard ever shows up at my door wanting my guns, I’ll show him the business end of my cast iron skillet.
I hope it hurts when he meets it.
What is with these people? If they don’t like guns, no one is stopping them from moving some place else.
I’d like to add to Bateman’s list:
Gun control activists will be responsible, legally and financially, for any crime committed with an illegal firearm, since they did not seize the weapon(s) used.
Gang does a drive-by shooting? Wacko kills a lot of people with a stolen weapon? Let’s lock up the gun control activists for allowing it. And seize their assets to pay restitution to the victims.
@2
VWP, what assault rifle are you talking about?
You need to be the first one locked up for allowing those crimes.
Has anyone checked to see if Bateman is in AKO?
Yes Bateman is in AKO. He is probably a Ranger since he is an infantry officer. Few Regular Arrmy infantry officers aren’t.
Michael Z. Williamson? Unbelievable to be reading a post by you on TAH.
‘The Humans Call it Duty’ is one of my favorite short stories, ever. And I’ve been reading them for decades. 🙂 Thanks for the quality entertainment.
Anyone else: read this guys writing. Well worth the time spent.
Can anyone verify that he was Ranger tabbed?
What malclave said @37.
Holy freaking idiot, Bateman!
Bateman, as one O5 to another.
Here’s another “oldie” for you; FOD.
This clown is welcome to own or not own any weapon of his choosing. Whether he opts in or out does not concern me. And, frankly, I really don’t care which. It’s just none of my business. My choice is also none of his business.
When he makes a point of his being in the Army, his later disclaimer is rather hollow. Kind of like saying that just because I show up in uniform at a political rally I am not implying that I do so as a member of the military. Uh-huh. Sure.
Any CO that says things like this on a public forum really should be subject to UCMJ actions for conduct unbecoming or some such thing….maybe some of our friendly neighborhood legal eagles can come up with something that would stick. When he raised his right hand and swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic this is not what the expected outcome should be. His words show that he is in violation of his oath, and he should be fired. What a disgrace to my uniform. GTFO of my Army you cock holster.
Jeez, that pissed me off…..
Yeah, he takes Justice Scalia to task. Scalia could chew this member (and I do mean member) of the intelligentsia up and spit him out inside of five minutes.
Damn, I never knew that most career Infantry Officers in the Army are Ranger tabbed. I thought they were a very small group. I’m taking it that its a check in the box for most, as there aren’t that many Ranger billets for officers.
I don’t think the grabbers believe that we are serious.
They are wrong-foolishly, tragically wrong.
Whatever experience and training LTC Bateman has he is not ready for this fight, a fight in which no one will be safe at any time or in any place.
He should reflect on the seriousness of such a fight, but I fear he is an unserious person-he certainly has not taken his oath seriously.
They won’t knock on your door, they don’t need too! Just make possesing an illegal firearm punishable with 20 years in federal prision and large fine with special courts like the irs has! You won’t be able to take your gun anywhere or use it in your home. And they won’t care if you bury it or hide it as it will be useless which is what they want. So you will be waiting behind your front door for the knock that never needs to come. Have fun playing hide and seek! With a few sting operations thrown in for good measure and you will be so paranoid you won’t know whats happening!