Crybaby Teresa King to sue Army
Most of you know about my disdain for sergeant majors, especially those who have avoided combat during this particular period service, you know, during the last twelve years of war when it’s been said that our troops are worn out from their multiple deployments. So a sergeant major who hasn’t deployed, got a Legion of Merit medal on her way out the door and now wants to sue the Army gets no respect. Yes, it’s now-civilian Teresa King, formerly the commandant of the drill sergeant academy at Fort Jackson – the folks who train the people who train the people who did deploy – wants a $10 million paycheck. From The State;
“A lot of the combat arms guys (apparently) thought they didn’t have to meet the standards to be drill sergeants – that I was going to give ’em a hat,” King said in a recent interview, meaning giving unqualified soldiers an unearned pass to be a drill sergeant. “And a lot of the male, combat arms officer, Ranger-types – they didn’t think I should be in that position. So they defamed me. They wouldn’t even talk to me.”
King said the mistreatment stemmed from three things: “It was because I was female, (had) no combat experience, and third because I was black. They wouldn’t talk to me; they would talk to my deputy and send me a note. They refused to work with me. Only a couple, maybe, had a discussion with me about the Drill Sergeant School.
“Other than that, my leadership, my superiors, all those sergeant majors that were supposed to support the school, they refused to interact with me because they didn’t like how I looked, and (felt) I shouldn’t be turning away their boys, because this is a boys’ job and I shouldn’t be in it,” King said.
Yeah, well, a POG who avoided twelve years of deployments to combat should just sit down and take her little medals and her fat pension for making people pick up cigarette butts around the NCO club for 32 years and shut up, unless she wants the evidence of the reasons she was investigated in the first place revealed to the public. From what I hear, the three reasons that she complains were the reasons that she was targeted are the same three reasons she was allowed to retire without punishment.
Thanks to Jeff for the link.
She is a disgusting individual.
I wish I had known about buying diplomas online to pad your promotion packet. apparently the Army is too stupid to tell the difference between a diploma mill and a legit university.
I’ve heard it in many a Medical Briefing that anymore in the US Army, one is allowed to stay in after they’ve tested positive for HIV. They’re just not allowed to be deployed Overseas anymore. She sounds like one classic example of a Professional Victim/EEO Quota!
She is using every victim’s excuse but forgot the “sun was in my eyes.”
A classic affirmative action in action (inaction?).
Crybaby is throwing a hissyfit because combat-experienced senior NCOs and field grades saw through her charade and cowardice and did not want to professionally deal with her anymore than they need to, and she’s suing the Army to get a big fat paycheck for her charade and cowardice; ain’t that a wonderful world we live in…
Well, she got one out of three right – no combat experience. As for the other two, didn’t the gubbment, including the Army, go EEO many years ago? So she got to her high and mighty position BECAUSE OF, not in spite of, being black and female.
So, STFU & STFD.
I just reread the linked story and I love this qoute from her ““You could categorize the changes as a return to (military) standards,” King said. “They had deviated from the standards based on the war,” she said, training soldiers by (war) doctrine instead.
“Gen. Hertling knew it was causing the Army issues when soldiers went to war, so he said, ‘Let’s return to standards,’ and I was the person that was the face of that return to standards, and many people didn’t want to do that”
This is exactly how I would expect a POG and a general officer to think. The “let’s return to standards” is the best. Standards evolve and change, especially when you are at war for 10 years. But someone removed from the line wouldn’t know that and will always want to go back to the old way it was done and would not view the “new standard” as any standard at all.
She was mistreated because she was a POG….. black, white, yellow, brown who cares. Race continues to be an issue because each time we try to hold somebody accountable, it comes up. Being a piece of shit knows no color……
RACE CARD = pay day
I’m still trying to figure out where the $10M figure was derived.
From my experience, the no combat patch would have been an issue until she proved herself fit and worthy enough to fill the position that she was put into. If she was never able to do that, then the respect that she seems to think she deserved would never have come. It has nothing to do with gender, race, or a patch. It has everything to do with leadership.
So a woman becomes a Sgt. Major and claims discrimination? What fucking color is the sky on her planet?
And yeah, I saw a lot of this shit when I was in, mostly in the skimmer/recruiting communities. Further reason why I had no burning desire to stay in and try to put on khakis at some point in my career.
Based on what’s been alleged as the underlying conduct leading to King’s suspension from duties, I have trouble believing she can say “return to standards” with a straight face.
Wonder when Al and Jesse show up to stand with her in “solidarity” to help her in her cause??? Sounds like she was a piss poor leader that showed her ass one too many times and got caught/dimed out bey the troops to someone that gave a damn.
Hondo, she can because in her head it’s, “Standards for thee, but not for me.”
She wasn’t liked because she was a coward dodging deployments for 12 years, not because of her gender or race. I can understand some people who don’t deploy for a while because of luck of the draw. Heck I didn’t get my first deployment until 2005. I left Ft. Campbell about a week before the stop loss/stop move, got to my new unit, six months later we became non-deployable as we transformed into a Stryker Brigad. As soon as we were deemed deployable we were on the first thing smoking to Iraq.
Good god it looked so good for the public… a black female heading the Drill Sergeant School! A first! Warm and fuzzies all over for today’s Army! Then what… a law suit? What in the hell happened?
WOW!
***Comments #1 throuhg 10 are all SPOT ON*** Nothing I would add could state it better.
@15. It wasn’t that she wasn’t liked, she wasn’t respected. She’s singling out “Male Combat Arms, Ranger types.” It wasn’t just the combat arms folks. It was anyone who had one or more deployments. All they had to do was glance at her right shoulder to get the measure of the character of the person yapping at them about standards.
I take comfort in the fact that for the rest of her life, late at night she will always wonder, “Did I REALLY have was it took to lead Soldiers in combat?” I hope it keeps her awake e very night for the rest of her miserable REMF existence.
Let’s not forget that she was also the headquarters company first sergeant for the XVIII Airborne Corps–and managed to miss all of the Corps’ deployments over the last 12 years and is also still a novice jumper . . .
I was barely able to tolerate going through WLS (Warrior Leadership Course, I called it something else) because maybe two of the “Instructors” sported a Combat Patch, yet they were self-appointed experts on whatever was going on Overseas, and we had a few in my class that had multiple deployments, but whatever we ME Vets said was wrong. BNCOC Phase I was a repeat of that, basically the pogues and “Reardos” barking crap out like their shit didn’t stink, as well as the ass-kissers and snitches getting their way. I’m thoroughly convinced that that EEO Quota festered such an environment, and this is her feeble attempt of a smokescreen! Ranger and Combat Arms Vets? Yeah, most of us believe in working for and earning things, not bawling and kissing ass!!
The hard ANALYSIS for Teresa King to read:
“It was because I was female” … CHECK!
“No combat experience” … CHECK!
“Because I was black” … CHECK!
“They wouldn’t talk to me” … CHECK!
“They would talk to my deputy and send me a note” … CHECK!
“They refused to work with me” … CHECK!.
“Only a couple, maybe, had a discussion with me about the Drill Sergeant School” CHECK!
Did it ever occur to you other than your inappropriate professional and personal behavior and binge drinking that no one wanted to work, talk, or deal with you directly because you were grossly under-qualified (as compared to your peer group), had no combat experience (while most if not all of your peer group did), they knew you would use the female and race card as you have in the past and clearly are doing now), and are generally a no good Soldier who advanced in the ranks on the backs of others.
Any questions?
Very well.
That is all!
Ugh! What an embarressment to the NCO Corp. I guarantee she’s an Affermative Action queen. Anyone on this baord ever work with her?
I’ll say it. She probably got the job in the first place BECAUSE of her gender and race. I suppose that never occurred to her.
@16 – see the results of the first black Adjutant General of Massachusetts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_C._Carter_(general)
I’ve found that elevating anyone to a position of authority based on his/her being the “first” something usually ends in disaster. The fact that Carter made a point to list his lifetime membership in the NAACP on his official bio should have been more than enough cause for concern.
@17–imagine how I felt when a Master Chief CR (Chief Recruiter) who hadn’t stepped foot on a ship since he was a PO2 with all of ONE Sea Service Ribbon told lowly E-6 me with FIVE Westpacs/SSR’s what it was like “out there.”
I remember when I was a 1LT we had a new battalion CSM (African American woman). I’d always cheerfully offer “CSM, I’m taking the troops on a ruck, would you like to come along?” Or “CSM, I’m setting up a company run, would you like to come?” She always deferred, “Oh, no, LT, I’ve already done PT today” (Total bullshit, of course, but I still offered), then one day, we were in the hospital HQ, and I was supposed to brief the battalion commander in like 2 minutes, and she comes up to me with a stack of papers and says ” LT you need to distribute these to your soldiers asap” I replied “SGM, I’m due in a briefing in about 2 minutes. Can you find my platoon sergeant or one of my NCO’s please? I’m already running late for a briefing with the BC.” She takes the stack of papers and turns and walks about 15 feet away, and then turns and says really loudly (in the middle of a crowded HQ area full of enlisted) ” Lieutenant, I am a command sergeant major. You do NOT delegate to me. You do NOT speak to me like that.” I looked at her kind of stunned for a second, and then I got pissed off and replied “Sergeant Major, I’m sorry, I am busy, and I do have to go. Please leave the papers with Top and we’ll get them out for you”. Stunned silence from the dozens of enlisted in the HQ area…. It’s an interesting irony that you can learn as much from bad leaders as you can good leaders.
She sadly got bumped up to brigade; I feel bad for those soldiers. I always hated hearing her smoke the guys about Army values and qualities….But, ‘That’s NCO business, Sir”…It was an odd coincidence that the guys that she smoked the hardest were the most valuable assets.
Anyway, that’s my officer side of the enlisted promotion quota story.
#26. That NCO was out of line. You handled it with diplomacy instead of the severe dressing down she deserved. And yes SGM, the LT does delegate to you. I thought that taught that stuff in basic.
Since rank is something you wear and respect is something you earn, Ms. King showed no leadership skills at all. She was a bitch on wheels, among other things. That isn’t leadership.
And no one would talk to her or deal with her directly because nobody liked her.
She wants all that money now becuase she knows deep down inside that because she has the ‘queen bitch’ reputation, no one will hire her for anything.
This soldier was the commandant of the Drill Sergeant School when I went through. I remember she made us come out of the field and miss pretty much all of our field time for a pass in review. We practiced that shit for like three days and she would seriously move entire platoons 6 inches to the left or right. All while she’s wearing a fleece that nobody else was wearing and then talking about uniform standards. Then running around with a license plate that says “no slack” but never being part of the 327th. I thought she was a turd and so did the rest of my peers. We didn’t base our decisions on race or sex. We based them on her actions and character.
If you remember the Bob Newhart Show, Newhart played a shrink.
There was one episode where he was with a very large black man with an abrasive personality, whose entire schtick was that people didn’t like him because he was black.
Newhart said “Well, nobody would like you if you were white.”
Concur wholeheartedly @ #26. This is my problem with CSM King had she deployed, she would have made life a living hell for the troops. Just what the army needed right? Another under employed, inept, useless CSM in theatre. What King doesn’t realize is the troops probably resented the endless self aggrandizement, ie… the appearance on the Oprah Show, the “NOSLACK” Vanity plates on her car. King promoted herself as something she wasn’t, the consummate warrior princess. If CSM King wants to talk “standards”, when did binge drinking and an E9 screwing a subordinate E4 become the standard?
IMO, if it could be proven in any way that her faked degrees played any role in her getting selected to a higher rank at any point of her career, (and if there was a mechanism to do so), then the military should take that money away she earned over the period of service she earned those promotions. That would take care of her.
@24. Yipes. I guess you could say he was ahead of his time, insofar as the rape allegation is concerned, eh? I got a kick out of his self-proclaimed “vindication” b/c he was on booted lesser charges, not rape.
This is what happens when the entitlement mentality gains a foothold in the Army.
Dear Lord, can’t we just court martial her? She wants to be the squeaky wheel (or bitch on wheels as stated above…) so let’s give her the grease.
Anyone who did more than a minute in the military has served with someone who was promoted WAY above their competence level. SgtMaj. King sounds like a lovely woman who should not have been promoted above PFC.
Although I am a career Marine, it makes me cringe when I read about this kind of crap permeating any of the services. All this woman’s career looks like to me is one more example that our “leadership” has finally decided that diversity is more important than competence and combat proficiency.
I say it constantly and stories like this just re-enforce it, I retired just in time.
She said “Sergeant Majors”! If she has the rank and doesn’t even know that the plural is “Sergeants Major”, she should never have passed a promotion board past SPC! I thought Grammer Nazi was a required course at TRADOC…
@NH Sparky
“Standards for thee, but not for me.”
Sad to say this is going on all over the Army and it’s sad. Seeing it happen to my left and right in my current unit. Lots of folks that got to senior status among the Sergeants by taking all the “check the box” NCO Schools. They look good on paper but fail in the real world test.
This insident with Ms. King reminds me of the wise old CSM that told me there is a difference between people who are merely sergeants…and those who are NCO’s.
At the Pre-command Course for battalion command, back in 2009, reservists were informed not to deride or denigrate the slick sleeves. Some of them were too disabled to deploy, but had performed service at home, such as multiple call ups to backfill the regular Army.
For me, it’s like this: soldiers who could not deploy is one thing – that’s acceptable; and soldiers who didn’t want to go and left the service – that’s acceptable. Soldiers who could have gone and avoided it? No. They are worse than the soldiers who went into the zone for two or three days, got the pay and bennies, and then deserted.
CSM(R) Teresa King was not removed from her post because she was black. That is an insult to the tens of thousands of black men and women who served honorably. CSM(R) was not removed because she was a woman. That is an insult to the thousands of women who’ve served honorably. CSM(R) King was removed because she failed uphold the standards of the NCO Corps, and the US Army.
King is hoping to be the next Trayvon Martin in that she gets the notoriety and the cash, and lives to be Obama’s pet hater for the next election. I recommend recalling her and sending her to Afghanistan.
I won’t even point out she played the race card. What gripes me to no end is when I hear a woman refer to men as “boys.”
If the only person she respects is herself, then that’s the only person who will give her any.
I officially demand that she quit using my company motto as her personal motto. No slack my ass, to shirk or evade work or duty, sound familiar?
Can someone tell me WTF an “administrative claim” is ? I’ve never heard of someone being able to sue the military for mistreatment while in uniform. If she’s successful, there will be a lot of suits filed by former members over how the felt they were “mistreated” while in the service.
No surprise here.
I have seen this first hand.
Would not surprise me if she was a Mason to boot.
@43 women cannot be Masons. 😀
Back in the ’80s we thought one of the major problems with the Army promotion system was that after someone hit primary zone, instead of justifying why they should be promoted, you had to detail in their EER why they should not be promoted. Most NCOs did not want to trash an otherwise OK EM, so eventually even the dullest candle on the menorah pinned on stripes. Some people reached their own personal level at PFC but through sheer longevity had survived promotion boards etc. and were E-6s – or worse.
@44 And why has this injustice not gone before the SCOTUS for remedy ? How dare private organizations decide who can and cannot be members ?!
I read the the article and one line kept jumping out at me…
“Immediately the negative commenting started,”…“Still, they pushed me into the job. So I went in there, and it was tough to start with,” King said.
OK, so I’m looking at this and the first thing I thought: Really? Damn, “they” struck again.
You are telling me that you were forced into this situation?
You were forced into taking a coveted position?
I wish I had something better to say here but, what the f**k ever lady.
But what do I know..
Screw her. At the height of the war(s) they were recalling people off IRR (I was one of them) to go to the combat zone(s). Therre is no excuse for her to have not deployed somewhere. As a matter of fact, unless there is some extreme reason, there is no excuse for anyone in the rank of CPT and above or SPC and above to have not been deployed at least once after 12 years.
I was recalled and went without complaint, because that is what my contract said was a possibility when I signed it. Senior NCOs and officers that purposely avoided deployments disgust me.
@21 On point! To quote from the “Peter Principal”, “every unqualified person will rise to their highest level of incompetence”. She is a perfect example of this. I am sure if Obama had another daughter, she would look like Teresa King. By the way, how in the hell did she get a Legion Of Merit!? That amazes me that they “threw” that at her on the way out after her known conduct issues. To me that was no more than an EEO, Affirmative Action medal. As someone else pointed out, there were two kinds of CSM’s, just like when I was in, the professional, did their job, looked after their troops
NCO’s…and then there were just “lifers”. She is the dictionary picture of an old lifer to me. I hope they throw her case to the wind and review her “rise” to CSM, along with her drinking and other personal issues. She has to know those will come to greater light if she pursues this too far. Screw her…or rather, someone else screw her…not with my d!ck!
If she had deployed just once to a major base, especially as a Sergeant Major, she could be the first black female Sergant Major of the Army.