Crybaby Teresa King to sue Army
Most of you know about my disdain for sergeant majors, especially those who have avoided combat during this particular period service, you know, during the last twelve years of war when it’s been said that our troops are worn out from their multiple deployments. So a sergeant major who hasn’t deployed, got a Legion of Merit medal on her way out the door and now wants to sue the Army gets no respect. Yes, it’s now-civilian Teresa King, formerly the commandant of the drill sergeant academy at Fort Jackson – the folks who train the people who train the people who did deploy – wants a $10 million paycheck. From The State;
“A lot of the combat arms guys (apparently) thought they didn’t have to meet the standards to be drill sergeants – that I was going to give ’em a hat,” King said in a recent interview, meaning giving unqualified soldiers an unearned pass to be a drill sergeant. “And a lot of the male, combat arms officer, Ranger-types – they didn’t think I should be in that position. So they defamed me. They wouldn’t even talk to me.”
King said the mistreatment stemmed from three things: “It was because I was female, (had) no combat experience, and third because I was black. They wouldn’t talk to me; they would talk to my deputy and send me a note. They refused to work with me. Only a couple, maybe, had a discussion with me about the Drill Sergeant School.
“Other than that, my leadership, my superiors, all those sergeant majors that were supposed to support the school, they refused to interact with me because they didn’t like how I looked, and (felt) I shouldn’t be turning away their boys, because this is a boys’ job and I shouldn’t be in it,” King said.
Yeah, well, a POG who avoided twelve years of deployments to combat should just sit down and take her little medals and her fat pension for making people pick up cigarette butts around the NCO club for 32 years and shut up, unless she wants the evidence of the reasons she was investigated in the first place revealed to the public. From what I hear, the three reasons that she complains were the reasons that she was targeted are the same three reasons she was allowed to retire without punishment.
Thanks to Jeff for the link.
What a self-aggrandizing POS.
From the article: “You could categorize the changes as a return to (military) standards,” King said. “They had deviated from the standards based on the war,” she said, “training soldiers by (war) doctrine instead.”
Yeah, God forbid Soldiers get taught stuff on how to stay alive instead of hospital corners and area beautification.
“I am sure if Obama had another daughter, she would look like Teresa King.” Nice one.
Back when the dinosaurs roamed and I was in BT, no DS was w/o a combat patch. None. I couldn’t imagine having a DS w/o one, let alone someone who is in charge of them. On the other hand, she spent her career in Human Resources so I guess that qualified her to head up DS Training.
@50–and if she had, I wonder what her reaction would be if she had been court-martialed for boinking the junior enlisted like McKinney did.
And for the record, that Master Chief who had never deployed who told me I didn’t know what it was like in the fleet? Shitcanned for boinking another guy’s wife and trying to cover it up (same scandal that nailed Tony Watson for sexual misconduct.)
Frankly, King should know when to STFU, cause now all the shit’s gonna come out. She has the RIGHT to remain silent, but apparently doesn’t have the ABILITY.
One of my first Sergeant Majors was Sergeant Major Brunk W. Conley. I first met him during the Sour Biscuit fire in Southern Oregon during my first activation (I was out of training for two weeks when I volunteered for fire duty). That man was an inspiration. He chewed out a 2LT who swerved a HMMWV down an embankment because he didn’t want to hit a beaver. He also made sure to know the name of every single Enlisted under him. After that, I worked him during the Katrina deployment and again when the Battalion deployed in OIF. HE is a good Sergeant Major. I just found out (looking for the exact spelling of his name) that he is now the 10th Command Sergeant Major of the Army National Guard. As for this female, I have little regard for her. Anyone that is elevated to the rank she attained (I won’t call it promoted, because you have to work for promotions) should feel foolish trying to pull out the black card or the “I have tits” card. Her superiors probably didn’t want to interact with her because she was a whining bitch. My Drill Sergeants in Basic (Ft. Jackson) were all combat vets. My Senior Drill was an Airborne Instructor, Ranger Instructor, Air Assault Instructor, and I think also Pathfinder Instructor (or just Pathfinder qualified, I can’t remember). Hell, he trained our company 1SG in Ranger School and showed us some Ranger tactics during FTXs. Our second Drill was Artillery and a Desert Shield/Storm vet. Even our baby Drill (we got him during 4th week) had the Screaming Eagle on his right arm. Personally, I don’t care if you are a combat vet or not. I never had a combat patch, and it didn’t hold me back from my position. What matters is whether or not you can do your job. Apparently, this shrill harpy couldn’t do her job and was caught in some nasty shit. Rather than kick her to the curb, most likely because she was both female and black, they let her leave gracefully. If she wants… Read more »
@50, I see what you did there. 🙂
Mewling quim. The best line in the Avengers should be translated by the interested and used to describe her.
Many “male, combat arms…Ranger-types” will never see CSM, much less a nominative position as a Commandant (the only positions I’m aware of where an NCO heads a service school–all CSMs get E-9 pay, but there is a big difference between a battalion-level CSM and one heading a school or working with a GO). It was her shortcomings that led to her unsuccessful turn as the DSS Commandant, not her race, gender, or even her lack of overseas deployments.
Still, the lack of a combat patch does say a lot to many of us. With some junior NCOs on their fourth or fifth deployment, it is understandable that a slick-sleeved CSM would feel out-of-place as the senior individual at a school designed to teach NCOs how to instill basic COMBAT skills in recruits. While it is understandable for some to have not yet been deployed (take, for example, a junior SSG whose first assignment was Korea and who then rotated to a recently returned unit before being selected for Drill Sergeant or recruiting), it is uncommon for those of us who have been in for the duration of these wars to lack at least one deployment. I did back-to-back CONUS tours in TOG and as a Recruiter, but despite my 9-years of dwell time, I am happily on my second tour (the first being the invasion of Iraq).
She’s collecting more in retirement, as an E-9 with 32 years of service, than my current base pay is as an E-6 with going-on twelve years. Meanwhile, I’m working on my degree from an ACCREDITED university (not a diploma mill) with plans to earn a graduate degree in the next eight years, and still increasingly realize that I’ll be lucky to make E-8; it’s tough enough to make E-7 nowadays.
One would think that as a retired nominative CSM, she would just shut up and use her experience to secure of cushy 6-figure job to go with her $50k plus annual retirement pay. I guess the temptation of becoming an instant millionaire is just too tempting.
AGEFMB: agree fully. I see absolutely no reason King couldn’t have found a way to deploy had she wanted to do so.
I could find a way to deploy for a tour in-theater at age 50 as a Reservist not serving on active duty. The fact that she couldn’t do the same while serving on active duty for well over a decade between 9/11 and her retirement IMO says all that needs to be said.
Another example of certain types milking the system.
No surprise here.
@58 – Makes sense, but in all her time in uniform, not once did she try to improve her situation and step up to the plate, request to deploy, or set a better example, in spite of her lack of some experiences. The way I see it, the only thing she attempted to give herself more credibility is to pay $$$ for some fake diplomas, which action speaks volumes to her character. The Army is so much better off without her.
Yeah, if Obama had a daugher, she’d act just like this lady.
She is probably suing under the theory of “constructive dismissal”. Meaning the Army made her life and job so unbearable she was forced to leave!
Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile. By them I mean shitbags.
“You could categorize the changes as a return to (military) standards,” King said. “They had deviated from the standards based on the war,” she said, training soldiers by (war) doctrine instead.
“Now, you’ve really got to do PT (physical training),” King said. “You’ve got to really teach. You’ve got to really know your job. You’ve got to really be a drill sergeant, because there’s gonna be no rubber stamps.”
So which is it? We were at war during her time yet the “war standard” just wasn’t “military standards”. How do you apparently not have to know your job during war under “war standards” than the “military standards”? What is wrong with “war doctrine” when at war?
What a flipping super pog completely out of her environment. 32 years of military service dodging combat deployments throughout 3 major wars and numerous other conflicts. Can she be brought up under fraud charges by tax payers?
For the most part avoiding a deployment for the past 12 years takes an honest, conscious effort. Put succinctly, she just didn’t want to go. And got away with it.
I don’t know…I imagine it’s entirely possible for human resources types never to deploy, even if it seems rare. I can’t tell if I hold that against her, as I’m not sure other than incurring a modicum of risk of mortars occasionally, if the experience would be any different than garrison for her.
I mean, she seems perfectly qualified, as most Sergeants Major are, to yell at people for not having eye protection on the way to the DFAC. Clearing barrels probably would give her trouble, but then, meh.
I’m honestly more concerned if her degree mill products shaped her promotion. My promotion packet a couple of years ago, before I got out, seemed to indicate that I peaked in college credit points well before they accounted for my grad school transcripts. Then again, I’m pretty sure finishing grad school appeared in at least once NCOER, so it may have been considered elsewhere, like commander’s points or board points. Who knows. I’m sure it benefited her positively, though.
Not that I expect the press to bite. They can’t even responsibly report that when Bradley Manning assaulted a superior, that the sissy attacked a woman. Let the facts get in the way of a disenfranchisement narrative? Pshaw.
BK: not positive, but I believe her MOS also covers APO operations. Lots of those in-theater from 2001 to present. Plus, as I recall Div HQs, Corps HQs, ARCENT, CENTCOM-Fwd, ISAF, and (I think) even BCTs deployed in-theater all still have personnel shops.
There were also a fair number of HQ Commandant SGM positions at larger installations. And don’t forget Kuwait, Qatar, and other locations in-theater outside of Iraq and Afghanistan. Tours there also put a patch on the right sleeve – and all had rather sizable HQs with APOs, personnel operations, and HQ Commandants (or similar organizations).
Bottom line: I ain’t buying the “I couldn’t go” story. I got told that once too – after being initially selected to deploy. Just over two years later, I was packing my bags for CRC.
A know a retired female COL that pulled this shit.
If she was truely being discriminated against wouldnt she have never made CSM in the first place?????
Meh. I’d hit it.
With a 2×4!
For a Sergeant Major, it wouldn’t be like she would deploy to a lower-enlisted Infantryman position, or even a platoon-level leader slot. If she had deployed, it would have been for Battalion or Brigade staff in-country. The only time she would have been out of the Green Zone would be traveling between embarkation/debarkation site. Hell, that would probably be the only time she even had to leave the wire.
No, for her to not see a single day of combat, she had to make a conscious effort to avoid it. Hell, a 30-day in-country is all that is required to get the patch (if I am remembering it correctly). I had admin and finance friends volunteering to cover leave slots just so they could get their patches/ribbons/points.
She says that she was discriminated against because she was a woman, she had no combat experience, and she was black. Well, I don’t buy any of that horse shit.
There are too many females in the upper-reaches of command and staff to claim discrimination on that point. As for being black, I don’t see how that is even an issue with all of the high ranks and the number of blacks in the service. Finally, there is the combat aspect. That is the clincher.
At her rank, she would either be assigned to a normal staff rotation or volunteer for a single (or even partial) tour. Because neither of those happened, I am lead to the conclusion that she purposely avoided a tour during the 12 years of armed conflict that we have been engaged in. That would be the only reason for her to have zero combat time.
When she said that “they” didn’t want to deal with her for those three reasons, she was only partially right on one point. I think the real reason they didn’t want to deal with her was because she was a coward.
I may be old-fashioned, but deploying to the sound of the guns is what a soldier does; it is the essence of soldiering. I was trying to get deployed to Iraq as a combat historian soon after my NOBLE EAGLE mobilized tour completed in early 2004. In late 2005, a combat historian billet opened up at ARCENT HQs in Kuwait, but I held out for the slot at MNF-I Camp Victory because that was where the sound of the guns were. I had to wait for a number of months until the MNF-I billet was ready to be filled and did not report to CRC at Ft. Bliss until the summer of 2006. I have no respect or patience for senior NCOs and field grades (especially those from the RA) who deliberately and consciously worked the system to avoid deploying into the combat zone. Sorry, I just don’t have any…
@71 – No apologies needed. We hate them all, too.
I just want to know what the hell she is suing for?
She was promoted to the top enlisted rank of the armed forces.
She spent OVER 32 years in, which is more than most get.
Shes going to be pulling in 5,000 bucks a month retirement.
Once she gets a VA pension added on ( twits like her always dig up something, probably getting 50-80% more) She’ll be making as much or more than any male enlisted retiree.
So her beef is that she got butt hurt because her peers didnt like her style of leadership. She specifically singled out combat experienced and combat arms types.
She distainfully stated that they needed to get back to “Army Standards”.
Yeah we know dumbass, you have to shine your boots, crease your trousers, etc.
Army standards should all lead to one thing… success in combat. What too many “career instructors” forget is that your chickenshit is only a means to an end. A soldier ( or Marine) isn’t taught to make a rack/bunk or shine his shoes just to look pretty. He does that to learn attention to detail and discipline. That is carried over to maintaining his M-4, plotting firing coordinates correcting or doing an IV bag under fire.
The SgtMajor in question here simply couldn’t do the job or work with her soldiers. I’m betting she had other shit going on that led the command to show her the door rather than courtmartial her ass.
I could give her a pass on being a pogue and not deploying, but the fact that she went out of her way to discredit those that did deploy raises her degree on being an asswipe to a new level.
Turd
We’ve all worked for jerks (to be kind in the descriptor). They NEVER realize that they are jerks and when things they don’t like happen to them, they are incapable of introspection. Instead, there are, they conclude, forces conspiring against them. For such people who happen to be women or racial, ethnic, or religious minorities, those forces automatically become illegal discrimination. Okay, forget about the kindness, please replace jerks with the term assholes in the above sentences.
People get shown the door or forced into retirement because they contribute nothing to the company/group.
32 years in the service, she gets a $60k/yr pension, plus Social Security, plus other bennies, and she’s whining.
Let her whine. She doesn’t have to do anything but sit on her bony ass for the rest of her life. She’s lucky she was allowed to stay in that long, as obnoxious as she seems to be.
Let her whine. And stop wasting my tax money on people like this.
My first tour was three years of Active Duty, from which I ETS’ed from in 1994. (I was Honorably Discharged in 1999) In 2003, I reenlisted in the Guard JUST for the chance to get deployed, which I’ve done twice since. I remember one of my NCO’s saying shortly after I came back in “If you’re in for two or more years, forget about if, it’s WHEN you’re gonna get deployed!” When I did A-stam, we had IRR recalls coming to my unit as replacements, and some of the “Joes” from my unit that ETS’ed got recalled and deployed as well. So to go 32 years sans being deployed means either you’ve made full effort to avoid deployment, or you’re HIV Positive. (See comment #3)
It’s inexcusable for a service member to not seek out the hard jobs. I know of no job harder than leading in a combat environment.
“…I am aware of my role as a Noncommissioned Officer. I will fulfill my duties inherent with that role…”
I guess those are just empty words to her, recited at ceremonies with no thought to what they entail, to what they mean.
During peacetime she excelled, able to talk the talk with the best of them. Yet when the bugle sounded and her betters marched dutifully off to avenge the deaths of 3000 American citizens, she turned a deaf ear.
@75 Entitlements, that’s what it’s about!!
An affirmative action moral coward sleazebag who should be very grateful to get away with her retirement benefits. If she was smart (and she probably isn’t) she would just fade away.
79…some of them really AREN’T. I knew one Senior Chief who cut a 29 on the ASVAB.
And he was PROUD OF IT.
King wasn’t a SgtMaj… she was an E-9 and is still behaving like one to this day with the crap she’s trying to pull.
I did everything short of selling my soul to the devil to deploy (did not get any help from the E-9 who was trying to “help” me). I retired with 26 years in and was proud of what I did, but I never went to the depths of this crap that King is pulling because I didn’t retire on “my terms”.
She needs to step the fuck away before this shit blows up in her face again.
@81, I’m sure she WON’T, mark my words, I think she’s gonna “Go Trayvon” and milk this for all the race card publicity she can!! To her breed, it’s all about what they can get by pointing to their skin color(and in her case, gender)and saying “LOOK, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME!!!”. I can see her taking a position as an agitator for the NAACP!
Oh, the movie rights and the book contract will be coming up soon, too. Did you guys forget those? I can see it now: “Queen Bitch”.
Oh, wait, that’s my life story. What was I thinking?
From Sep 1996 to Feb 15 2006
’97 Bosnia
’98 Bosnia
’99 Albania
’02 Kuwait
’03-’04 Iraq
’05-’06 Iraq
(not mentioning the time training in areas such as Poland)
Nothing more insulting than getting a packing slip from somebody who has no idea what it’s like to be deployed.
Or being deployed on Dec 26 at 2am in the morning. Think about that as a single soldier, and what that means living in the barracks and having all your stuff packed 3 weeks prior.
@#82….”To her breed” ??? Really ? Are you trying to say that ALL blacks (her breed) act like that ? I know many fine, honorably serving black Americans who would never dream of pulling the type of crap she’s doing. Don’t lump them in with her because she’s pulling at any string she can (are we including females as “her breed” also ?) for a payday or to obfuscate her ineffectiveness at her job.
NavyCWO4, I think by ‘breed’, he means ‘bitch on wheels’, which applies to anyone who acts the way Ms. King acts.
If that’s his meaning, I retract my statement. But read exactly what he wrote…
To her breed, it’s all about what they can get by pointing to “their skin color”(and in her case, gender)
Quotes added for emphasis.
I wasn’t trying to make excuses for her–and in fact intended the opposite. I’ve stated before my opinion that senior NCOs and officers have quite a bit more say in what they do and where they go as opposed to us lowly junior NCOs. My disdain for those who fight deploying grows greater every time I see someone who has served for the duration of these wars yet who has not deployed even once. I can think of a few otherwise stellar Soldiers who I lost a bit of respect for when they fought leaving The Old Guard (and going to a unit where they could deploy) or converted to 79R so they wouldn’t have to deploy (understandable for those who had multiple deployments, but not so much for those who never deployed and had been instructors for ten years).
My assignments have been varied so far, and despite my unit adding to its storied history in Baghdad, I’ve felt guilty about missing out while my peers deployed between ’04 and last year. Even now I am the ultimate Fobbit, representing my brigade at the division level. Still, I requested deployment to Djibouti while with TOG (and was told I already had a combat patch), and was set to reenlist for 25th ID before being fenced into TOG and then selected for recruiting. Also, regardless of having not been a door-kicker for the past ten years, I’m still at least over here performing duties someone has to do.
We all know that the exalted CSM King has no idea of the way the Army works because of her 32 years of non-deployed experience. If she did, she’d realize that the Army is here to fight wars, and train for wars in peacetime. I guess I might be missing “standards” too, if that was all I knew for three decades while my subordinates and peers fought and died in foreign countries.
For cripesakes, she spent her career in Human Resources! No doubt she knew policy and she knew regs but if that’s what it takes to be a leader and to oversee those who prepare young men and women to fight, then there is nothing more to be said.
let me tell you about the finest NCO I have ever had the privelage to serve with. Shes a Female and Black and her name is not Theresa King!!!!! MSG Carla Brown US Army Transportation Corps… if you want to know how a real leader who pulled the bootstraps up and led from the front and NEVER let the point that you were a weaker male (lol) get in the way. Made me the NCO I was.. and anyone in the army knows digger (Gulf 6 Bravo) is the man of his word.. because a fine FEMALE BLACK NCO taught me to “do the right thing SGT”
^ That’s because garrison is easy. War is hard.
What is worse? How about lying about one’s military experience. Specifically speaking of the person who “had several tours of combat.” Not true!