Navy shipbuilding woes

| September 23, 2024 | 8 Comments

Let’s pick on the Navy. Barely able to squeak out enough crew to man/person/whatever the total ships they have, the Navy’s build programs all show one consistency. They’re late and over budget.  First up, submarines – the Virginia-class boats are currently building 1.3 a year versus projected needs of 2 a year. And that doesn’t account for the five we are supposed to supply to Australia. Sounds like Oz has a minimum 3 year wait if they get every one we build. Oh, and the program is running 17 BILLION over budget by 2030. Is any of that due to the co-ed modifications?

The news comes after a major report earlier this year revealed the Navy’s biggest projects, including new Virginia-class submarines, were facing severe delays of up to three years.

On Thursday, House Rep. Ken Calvert, chairman of the House defense appropriations subcommittee, said in remarks prior to an oversight meeting that the Navy had “withheld information on costs and delays” and that its “plans to address” its shipbuilding crises “are primarily aspirational.”  Insider

Think we would say something pithier… like their mouths are talking goals their asses can’t manage. Why don’t some of THOSE flags get relieved for ‘lack of confidence’ – certainly, they don’t sound trustworthy.

EVERY program is behind. Not just the (snerk, snicker) Littoral Combat Ships…every damn one. Best of the lot is that last one…and that comment box in English instead of bureaucratese says “They ‘re late but we already figured they would be.” Unlike the aircraft carriers getting refueled at five years a whack – they are just late.

As of 2022 we had about 280 active, manned, able-to-get-underway ships. Total fleet strength, however, including these projected/late hulls, is 470 ships. Seems like a BIG of a difference, no?

Now, 370  ships… roughly the size of the current Chinese Navy. There are many differences – their Navy is much more brown-water coast-adjacent oriented and has many less powerful ships….you know, littoral ships.   Still…

And that industry is building it a massive navy. The Chinese People’s Liberation Army’s Navy “is the largest navy in the world with a battle force of over 370 platforms, including major surface combatants, submarines, ocean-going amphibious ships, mine warfare ships, aircraft carriers, and fleet auxiliaries,” the Pentagon said last fall in its report on China’s military power. And that number doesn’t include around 60 Houbei-class patrol combatants that carry anti-ship cruise missiles.

The country’s naval vessels are being constructed at incredible speeds, boasting increasingly advanced capabilities, sometimes even demonstrating impressive technological jumps. By 2030, the Pentagon expects China’s PLAN to have an overall battle force of 435 ships, a notable increase mostly in “major surface combatants.”

How is it they can build so much faster?

China’s shipbuilding industry has over 230 times the capacity of the US, according to recent estimates from the Office of Naval Intelligence, representing about 50% of the total global shipbuilding capacity.Insider II

Unlike WWII, we’re not going to build our way out of this mess. 230 times? Read the latter article…the numbers are a bit chilling.

Category: "Your Tax Dollars At Work", China, Navy

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President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

Sure, the CCP are building more ships faster. But how good are those ships, really. What’s the CCP’s QC like?
Or is this a case of “quantity has a quality all its own”. (I think that’s the quote)

There are literally dozens of recent articles of the crappy quality of ships and crews of the US Navy. Billion dollar littoral ships that are worthless to Navy ships running into obstacles all over the world.

Buckeye Jim

Keep in mind, the Chicoms (as of now) do not have the global commitments that we do so their Navy can also be consolidated in a much smaller geographic area. That said, the state of our Navy is very disturbing.

2banana

The 80s called…

China has their own GPS and secured comms satellites now. They are also sending rockets to the moon.

11B-Mailclerk

Since most of the CCP fleet can’t survive much damage, it’s a busy afternoon for our shooters.

We just need to ensure our fleet can both shoot enough and survive enough. Plenty of work to be done, yes.

They built a merchant fleet, and thus have building capabilities. We tried to regulate away competitors, thus we have not much.

That could change.

You may also recall our prior “peer” competitor, who had a massive and scary fleet, that wound up beached or sunk of neglect.

CCP has a glass jaw, and knows is, thus they only bully small fry. When they start seeking multiple confrontations with the US Navy, where shots could get fired, and probably should, will be the sign they think they can take us.

And the moment that happens, we should wreck their whole fleet. Bam. Don’t give them a lesson, give them Defeat.

Our unofficial motto must be FAFO.

Sapper3307

The shipbuilding population in Maine is being replaced by Somalis that vote D and won’t work. Replacement theory?

Anonymous

When Globalists outsource your shipbuilding capacity because “China can do it cheaper”… tell me they and Democrats don’t hate America.

2banana

America used to be able to build quality products very quickly. Absolute near miracles of engineering and mass production. Literally building ships faster than enemies could sink them.

Now, what is left of American industry that has not moved to China, is a bloated, corrupt, polticized, DEI destroyed shadow of its former self.

And it will get worse.