Carl Anthony Meek; phony SEAL

| December 3, 2016

Carl meek

The folks at Military Phonies send us their work on this fellow, Carl Anthony Meek. As you can see in the photo above he claims to be a veteran of SEAL Team 6. He graduated from Class #5 and he was in Vietnam;

Carl Meek claim

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Meek claims

Not according to the Navy, though. He spent 2 1/2 years as a parachute rigger in New Jersey and California. Another bad case of the Bucklew syndrome;

Carl Meek FOIA

Carl Meek Assignment2

Carl Meek Assignments

Carl Meeks Training

No awards for service in Vietnam. So, he served at a time when most of his generation wouldn’t, he should have been proud of that.

Category: Phony soldiers, Valor Vultures

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ocean12

Ass hat

Silentium Est Aureum

I dunno how proud he could be with the SCM conviction and the 2 months at hard labor he did at Treasure Island.

Too bad CM records that far back aren’t online. Be interesting to see how he stepped on his crank.

Shitbags gotta shitbag.

Rb325th

Well I guess when you are a shitbag, but want to believe you coulda been a contender… just pretend like the shitbag you are, to be all you never could have been.

Calvet

Is there a way to see CM records/transcripts online?

Silentium Est Aureum

Not that old. I know that CM results for the last few years are accessible online. Prior to that, you might have to file an FOIA request, if even that would work.

Hondo

Even a FOIA might not work if you’re looking for a transcript of the trial. If I recall correctly, a verbatim transcript isn’t required for anything but a BCD-SpCM and a GCM. I seem to recall that a SpCM not empowered to award a BCD and a Summary aren’t required to keep a verbatim transcript.

However, the summarized results should be available – if they weren’t lost or destroyed during the last 45 years. And those should be something authorized to be released under the FOIA.

USAF E-5

Don’t know about all Court Martial Records, However, I do know some are classified and sealed. A FOIA request will not show a record at all.

Green Thumb

General or Bad Conduct Discharge = Shitnag.

HMCS(FMF) ret

You caught that little tidbit… 2 months hard labor. Must have line danced all over his dick with a pair of golf spikes to get hammered.

Silentium Est Aureum

Especially since it doesn’t appear that he had a history of NJP prior to that.

Ex-PH2

Special court martial? For what?

Well, coming out of “A” school back in them there olden times meant that you made E-4 a year later. That means that if he completed 13 weeks of PR “A” school by August 1969, he’d have made PR3 by August 1970.

He must have been a real screw-up of some kind.

Silentium Est Aureum

Must have been good, too, cause they also busted him back to E-1 along with the 2 months confinement.

IIRC, a SCM means he would only have received a General Discharge as well.

Ex-PH2

Agreed. And if you try to nail him down about it, I’m sure he’d have every excuse in the book.

But SEAL Team 6??? In Vietnam????? Geez, Louise, I didn’t think anyone was that dumb. They were still being called UDT guys – frogmen – at that time.

Hondo

Um, no.

During Vietnam, the UDT and SEAL communities indeed both went through the same training, BUD/S. However, the were distinct specialties having different NECs (SEAL, 5321; UDT, 5326). The people who served during that era also say there was a distinct difference between the two communities. SEALs called themselves SEALs, and performed very different duties/missions/functions, than did UDTs.

http://cursor.org/stories/seal_or_udt_printer_friendly.htm

During Vietnam, it was reportedly pretty easy for someone in the UDT to move to the SEAL side of the house. Reputedly, it was pretty much “ask and you got it”.

SEAL Team One and UDT 12 were roughly the same size. Both performed missions ISO the Vietnam War.

SEAL Team One lost 34 KIA. UDT 12 lost 1.

Silentium Est Aureum

Yup. Case in point–our boy Jimmy Janos was UDT, but never volunteered for SEAL, and as a result, never got closer to Vietnam than some bar girls in Olongapo.

However, he did go through BUD/S, so the claim he’s a phony isn’t quite correct. Senior Chief Shipley gives him credit, so that’s good enough for me.

Ex-PH2

Point taken, Hondo, but the SEALs as a separate group were not widely known and definitely not discussed at that time. Where I worked in 1967-1970, the ONLY mission team I heard about were the UDT guys, and even though John Sheppard (remember him?) was assigned to SEAL Team 1, he never brought it up.

Hondo

Understood – the SEAL community was small during Vietnam, and only about 800 SEAL Team personnel fought there (don’t think that number includes support personnel, but I could be wrong). And since they and the Navy were fairly closed-mouthed about what they did, a whole sh!tload of fakes were able to falsely claim they were SEALs in Vietnam and get away with it for quite a while.

I think CAPT Bailey was the one who coined the following sarcastic quote: “Only about 800 SEALs served in Vietnam – and I’ve met all 10,000 of them.”

Claw

I’m going with the reason for SCM/Confinement as he used the answer sheet for the Feb 1970 GED test as doobie paper for a big old Phattie.

Either that or he was caught using crib notes to fill out the name, rank and serial number portion of that GED.

2/17 Air Cav

I think he confused his inmate number with his class number. That’s all. And a couple of months at hard labor is essentially identically to BUDS, isn’t it? Yeah, I can see this.

Daisy Cutter

He has that steely-eyed look of a killer, doesn’t he?

Daisy Cutter

Afterthought: of course, the more notches you have for confirmed kills as a parachute rigger kind of works against you as far as professionalism at your job.

Graybeard

My 82nd AB brother revealed that he almost was killed by a rigger. He was about to ETS and had turned in all his gear, when he found out that he was scheduled for one last jump. Because he’d turned in all his gear, he was excused, and his slot given to a cherry LT.
The chute streamered and the LT locked up and didn’t deploy his reserve (it had been so long since he had last jumped he was almost due to go through a refresher.)

Three riggers confessed to intentionally packing the chute wrong.

I don’t think this faker is from the same era, but I’d be willing to bet he crapped on someone. Hopefully they got their reserve out in time.

Ex-PH2

You have to start wondering who got hurt because of his mistakes.

Graybeard

Or killed.

1610desig

He has the steely eyed look of someone who patrols your neighborhood with “free candy” spray painted on the side of his bondo camouflaged ford econline

HMCS(FMF) ret

“Steely-eyed cock snarfer” is more like it…

Keepin' It Real

Meek’s main Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/carl.meek.98

His other pages seem to be set up for gaming.

rgr769

I looked at his facebook page. That look on his face says semi-retarded rather than semi-retired. I wonder if he has flash-backs to his harrowing time in “the ‘Nam” when he gets it on with his Asian gal pal. I know that happens to me sometimes; and then I wake up, and I swear I can smell nouc mam.

2/17 Air Cav

He does have that meet-me-behind-the-dumpster look about him. Prison will do that to some fellows, I hear.

Tony180a

In the words of Gunny Highway he has a “just humped the neighbors cat look on his face”.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

This guy is legit, evidence is in the proper capitalization:

1. seal
2. Seal
3. navy

All legit US Navy SEALs always use the above forms.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Oh and ST-6 was not established ’till the 80’s … that is klasserfried at T0P SÉČRËT CSI level.

Hondo

Oh, then I guess that means that Wikipedia is in big trouble! (smile)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEAL_Team_Six

Devtun

Chargin’ Charlie gave major credit to Jimmy C for getting the ball rolling on a dedicated counter-terror unit. The story goes Pres Carter in early ’77 asked his joint chiefs if the US military had capabilities along the lines of British SAS. Of course none of the joint chiefs was going to admit to the president that the British did anything better than the American military.

A Proud Infidel®™

I wonder what kind of special Sparkle Pony he was to get a SCM and time in lockup? Another snot-nosed pisspants booger-eating bedwetting dingleberry WANNABE!

Eden

ex-OS2 in 3, 2, 1. . .

Cowpill

I’ll say it……..”Cocksucker”

SFC D

Bad form!

ex-OS2

Cocksucker.

Hondo

Now it’s official. (smile)

Green Thumb

Yet another phony biker.

Meatgazer.

I’m sure there is a particular Florida MC that would welcome him with open arms.

1610desig

And legs akimbo

Dustoff

For the love of everything holy….is there one among them (bad ass veteran bikers) that was ..oh a wheel vehicle/generator mechanic?….a clerk typist?…a finance guy?…a clerk in S-1, or perhaps a garden variety tread head (armor)? No,no,no! They have to be, nay..they gots to be a Delta Operator, SEAL (always on Team Six), Green Beret (18 series), MARSOC/Force Recon, USAF PJ/JTAC! Now I realize that a POL guy in the Maintenance Battalion probably won’t get the same action on any given Saturday night that an “operator” would, but man..give it a freakin rest posers, will ya….rant over…thanks.

Tony180a

8 Ball Al Merklien says he can ride with him anyday.

26Limabeans

In the sidecar.

26Limabeans

Kinda meek looking guy.
Has that smirk that just screams “yeah, I’m a pussy”.
Hope he gets a Christmas greeting from the “hair”

ex-OS2

I see what you did there.

TankBoy

AAAnd, there it is. Has there ever been a military motorcycle club veteran who is not some kind of operator? Do they have that as one of the blocks on the check out sheet when all of the snake eaters get out? Sign for Harley, black leather vest with proper patches, and membership in local club?

chooee lee

As a former Navy Parachute Rigger who graduated “A” school in 1961 there was no automatic E-4. You had to complete a course of Basic Military Requirements and take a written test You had to pass the test with a high enough score to be one only a few who were promoted

Ex-PH2

Okay, I went through “A” school, different rating, but that gave you an advance a year after completing the school. The only tests I ever took were the PH2/E-5 tests. That was in 1967. So why was it different for you?

Silentium Est Aureum

Might have to do with the timeframe or school guarantees, PH2.

I got “pushbutton” PO3 right out of “A” School, and had I done a STAR (Selective Training and Reenlistment) after I finished my training pipeline, I could have gotten PO2 without testing.

Choose your rate, choose your fate, or something to that effect.

RM3(SS)

Agreed. I promoted in 1974, had to test and pass high enough for E-4. Of course promoting wasn’t high on my priority list back then, I might have passed up an opportunity to test a time or two. Booze and wommenz was my primary focus. 🙂

Claw

Gotta love one of his Favorite Quotes: (I juiced it up a little)

Yeah! Though I have walked thru the Valley of Death, I Fear no Man (cause I have an NDSM).

I’m sure he has a patch on his biker’s jacket that has a four inch NDSM with the caption: “I Spent My Time In Hell”

Dumbass.

26Limabeans

And a giant V device

Deckie

It might be my phone but it looks like he re-cropped his profile photo to hide his face. Maybe he will try and claim he is someone else or just got scared, but not scared enough to change his info.

The Al

It’s not your phone- he did crop most of his face out of his profile photo

Skyjumper

He sorta has that “Huffer & Puffer” look in his eyes.

The kinda guy who inflates used rubbers and then while pinching the sides allowing it to make “squeeky” sounds he inhales the rushing air.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

I just noticed another capatilization error:

He refers to BUD/S as budds.

That means 100% legit!

ex-OS2

His Facebook page says SEAL Team 2.

He must have been a super secret PRAN over in the “Viet of the Nam”.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Hey, that is my line!

ex-OS2

Ooops, my bad.

I shall go stand in the corner.

Dash Riprock

I’m going to pose an honest question for anyone who can offer a thumbs up/down.

It seems like I’ve seen the word “Corpsman” used a lot recently. It might simply be an inaccurate perception on my part. Honestly, it doesn’t matter how it arrived front-and-center in my head but it triggered a memory and reanimated the question.

Many years ago I attended a month long training course far from home. Of course, the trip required that I stay in a hotel. Most nights I spent alone in the bar.

One night, an instructor from the course spotted me and and asked to sit. Now, I certainly recognized him and even knew his name. Beyond that though he was a complete stranger.

He steered a one-sided conversation and I occasionally acknowledged him with a nod.

Beers & tequila later, he finally asked me which branch I’d served in. It was an assumption on his part but, nevertheless, correct. I told him that I’d spent four years plus some change in the navy.

He revealed that he’d served five years in the Coast Guard from 68-73. His decision to enlist in the Coast Guard was an expedient one. A draft notice had arrived and he was opposed to the war. Additionally, life as a grunt wasn’t appealing. Fate, or possibly a life-long streak of bad luck stymied his deliberate attempt to avoid being sent to war.

The Coast Guard turned him into a Corpsman which meant being sent to Vietnam. He arrived ‘In-Country’ and found that fate was still being twisted by his assignment to a Marine grunt unit and finally to Force Recon.

I don’t know the details of the arrangements between the sea services but, historically at least, I am aware that the Navy
augments with Coast Guard personnel. Furthermore, I recognize that the US Coast Guard did have presence in Vietnam.

I really don’t know what to think about this. Superficially, I dont like it. Still, it’s fantastical enough to make me wonder.

Thoughts? Facts?

Ex-PH2

Anything is possible. You could ask him which squadron and which subunit he was assigned to over there. And where was he trained as a Corpsman? And when? Those are simple enough questions. None of that info is classified, and hasn’t been for decades.

The USCG had a role in Vietnam from April 1965 to December 1971, when it ended and the squadrons were dissolved.

It does sound a bit odd, but you never know.

Dash Riprock

Actually, I never saw the guy again. The story nagged at me, briefly, until it was filed away. I hadn’t thought about it in years until some recent mentions of “Corpsman” around here. I guess it was enough to spark the memory.

Skippy

What a shame nothing to be disappointed about
Be proud of what you have done and move forward

jarhead

To me he has that “Sad Sack” face of a deserter from Gilligan’s Island. Might have been bitch slapped by Mary Anne.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Nah, Ginger bitch slapped his sorry, dumb ass…

HT3 '83-'87

I can’t believe a SEAL hat wearing, motorcycle leather vest having, and ‘Nam story telling guy is a phony. What is the world coming to? Next, you’ll tell me the loudmouth asshole at the end of the bar covered in head-to-toe Ranger/Special Forces/Marine Sniper gear ins’t legit either. I’m losing my faith in humanity.