VA still fudging numbers after all these years

| February 19, 2015

The Washington Post‘s Michelle Ye Hee Lee is quickly becoming my favorite fact checker at the Post. Yesterday, she checked Department of Veterans Affairs Secretary Robert McDonald claim that he’s been busy firing incompetent leaders at the VA since he took over the job. It turns out that he’s not being completely honest to Congress and to veterans;

In his “Meet the Press” interview, McDonald also said 100 senior leaders are under investigation by the inspector general and the Department of Justice.

Yet McDonald is incorrect saying 60 employees who manipulated wait times were fired.

Disciplinary actions for 75 employees have been proposed since June 3, 2014, according to the VA’s most recent weekly briefing to the House and Senate committees on veterans affairs. These actions were related to patient scheduling, record manipulation, appointment delays and/or patient deaths. The proposed actions included removals, admonishment (a written letter of censure), reprimand (a stronger letter of censure), suspension of less than two weeks and probationary termination. Admonishment or reprimand letters can be removed from employees’ personnel files after two or three years. (Definitions for disciplinary actions are here.)

Of the 75 employees, only eight employees have actually been removed, as of Feb. 13, 2015. Twenty-three cases were pending. Five employees resigned before a decision was made on their case. Others were demoted, were on probationary termination, had some other disciplinary action, or had no action taken at all.

McDonald used his new personnel authority to propose removals of five executives — in Phoenix, Georgia, central Alabama, Pittsburgh and the VA central area office in Washington. Two retired before they could be removed, and three were actually fired. But of those three terminations, only one was officially related to the VA scandal — James Talton, director of Central Alabama’s VA.

Ms. Lee continues that of the 900 employees that the VA says that they’ve fired, were fired for reasons that a lot of people get fired; absenteeism and poor performance, not usually related to the scandal that cost their Secretary, Shinseki, his job last year. Ms. Lee writes that in 2013, the year before the scandal, 2,247 VA employees were fired, more than double the number fired last year, after the scandal. Lee gives McDonald four Pinocchios for providing this information to the public without any real context.

So, nothing has really changed at the VA. The Secretary is giving answers that make it look like he’s doing what the President hired him to do, but those answers aren’t based in any sort of reality. But, who is surprised.

There is a culture of lying about the internal workings of the Department that goes back years and that culture isn’t going to change as long as the same people are working there.

That’s why I’m not surprised that last week, the VA and the White House want to defund the Veterans Choice program saying that veterans aren’t using the system that the White House and Congress crowed about six short months ago. They say the reason is that veterans aren’t taking advantage of the program – based on their numbers. You know, like the numbers above.

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MustangCryppie

As a federal employee myself, I have to say that it’s a fucking miracle that anybody has been fired. Discipline and standards are dirty words in the Fed workplace.

3E9

Amen to that. I’m also a federal employee and every week I see at least one person who is a shining example of how hard it is to fire a federal civilian.

nonsubhomine

I’ve got one in my office – of the protected class variety. You think it is hard firing an average gov’t worker…

rb325th

It is damned near impossible to get rid of those deserving to be fired. I have seen guys who sold drugs on VA Property have to be rehired,and get all their back pay.
Then, I have also seen where the good ole boy network will gang up on someone and try to screw them out of their jobs and lose also. Whole lot of that going on too.
The details released show that action is being taken, and if you have not worked in the Federal Government (in any agency), you have no idea just how long it can take to get rid of someone.
Also, going to point out that a lot of the “whistleblower complaints” in one location turned out to be retribution against managers by employees for perceived slights. Yes, there was a lot of fuckery going on, but it was not all about covering up piss poor treatment of veterans. A lot of it was the culture of the VA, where employees and managment prey on one another. Which of course negatively effects veteran care also.

AW1 Tim

I’m proposing Robert McDonald for lifetime membership in the Dutch Rudder Club.

He’ll fit right in.

Green Thumb

We will see. Lets dive him some time first.

My biggest criticism of him is that he refuses to address any VBA issues. The VBA is a criminal organization.

And another thing, are not the top three in the VA West Point Officers? With no combat experience? Curious?

It also seems that every time one gets close to a VA issue, the next thing you are doing is speaking with their OGC. Turds.

Hondo

Damn. Sounds like another example of

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss . . .

That’s unfortunate, if not completely unexpected. But I had hoped for better.

2/17 Air Cav

“Plus, in fiscal year 2013, there were 2,247 VA employees fired in one year, which was two and half times more than McDonald’s 900 figure – and that was before a massive systemic problem was found.”

Well, there you go, the magic line in she-who-bought-too-many-vowel’s piece. (She works for the Post. No quarter is given.)

David

There is a culture of lying about the internal workings of the Government that…

there, fixed it for you.

Bobo

So, if I’m a terminal GS-15 or SES pulling down $120K+ and get an admonishment, reprimand, or suspension of less than two weeks, who cares? I’m still getting my paycheck, step increases, and building time toward my retirement. BFD.

Bill R

Suspension is a loss in pay and service. That’s the only one you named that isn’t a slap on the wrist.

Hondo

Loss of pay, yes. Loss of creditable service towards retirement, don’t think so. See page 48 of

https://www.opm.gov/retirement-services/publications-forms/csrsfers-handbook/c020.pdf

It appears that a suspension of less than 6 months is still credible service for retirement. Thus, the only real impact would be the loss of 2 weeks pay out of 168 weeks’ pay (high 3) – or a reduction in their pension of less than 1.2%. And they’d only see that if they retired within 3 years of the suspension.

Bill R

Good catch. I’ve always been briefed otherwise. Thanks!

Eric

Just think, if there weren’t unions to “protect” those gummint workers, whatever would they do???

OWB

So, he’s doing exactly what he was appointed to do – to lie, cheat and parse data in such a way as to compound the problem.

The US government is the greatest welfare institution in the history of the world. Pay people to do nothing, or worse, reward people who break things and make the lives of those who pay them miserable. The VA is just one example. Probably the most despicable, but still, only one of many examples.

Sparks

Meanwhile, veterans in need are still rowing the same boat with one oar.

Eric

If I end up in that boat with one oar, I’m going to be using that oar for something other than rowing. Unless I figure out a way to row up a VA bureaucrat’s ass.