John Frederick Kuhl; phony SF sniper
Our friends at Professional Soldiers send us their work on John Frederick Kuhl, a firearms instructor at Colorado Firearms Training. To read his bio, he sounds mighty scary and well trained by the military;
But the Army disagrees;
It looks like about 53 weeks in the Army and he was in an ADA unit at Bragg. The only thing he didn’t lie about was his jump school attendance.
But, we all know that Air Defense Artillery is the fertile ground from where Special Forces draws their best snipers. Am I right? Especially those guys who rocket up to Private E-2 in a year.
I don’t see where Colorado Firearms Training offers skeet shooting lessons – that’s about the only thing his military career in ADA would benefit him…and his students.
Category: Phony soldiers
Another loser who can’t be proud of their legitimate service without a ton of embellishment.
For the life of me I can’t figure out why these morons think they’re gonna get away with this shit. Especially if I’m going to spend good money on that course and I see Special Forces in your bio, I’m gonna check that out. Or else I might wind up getting shooting advice from an ADA E-2.
A year of service before being (presumably) booted at the rank of E-2 is probably not something a person would want to brag about, I’m guessing.
D’oh!
Probably spent his year on ED pulling weeds around the motaaa pool off Yadkin road.
Idiot, biggest ‘tard imaginable. Didn’t she jack, didn’t do jack (unless it was from a bottle). No infantry skills in his MOS, didn’t know what belted 4-and-1 was either… certainly not while he was in. Hope his dumb behind at least lies well, ’cause that’s all he’s got.
Why the Army would let him go after 13 months with all of that hard training under his belt. (sarcasm intended)
Wonder if he had any of that crap on his application for being a Special Agent.
Emphasis on the “special” part?
Jesus,
What an *ASSHOLE*.
The “it’s not in the official records because it was uber seekrit squarrel” defense coming in 3…2…1…
People pay serious money to go to these private firearm / self-defense schools. If it were me, I’d be looking for my refund right about now.
Charge ’em to watch a movie with Ice Cube shootin’ sideways gangsta style– you’d be delivering more know-how than this dude!
WOW, thirteen months and exits as anE2? It sounds like as a Soldier, he was about as high speed as a salted slug and as competent as well, whatshisname in a courtroom!
YEAH, just so I’d want to go to for firearms training – NOT!!
UP HIS ASS sideways with a frozen porcupine!
Sharp as a pound of wet leather…
Smh… My certs sit in a box in a storage unit. I would rather put a rusty 10d nail through my scrot then earn a cent from the glory of my youth and the honor of my brothers. And then this? Seriously, how are Doctors protected from someone committing fraud and Vets aren’t?
(Not to take away from anyone that has served with honor and uses their training to do good things.)
This looks like criminal stolen valor to me, and maybe just plain regular fraud charges as well. This asshole is using phony military credentials to draw people to his BS school and earn buckets of money on the backs of men better than him. If any local prosecutors read this, burn his ass.
I hate guys like this more than anything. Doing karate and such, I’ve had my fair share of run-ins with phony assholes instructing people in bogus techniques that would likely get them killed if they tried to use said techniques in a real fight. This guy is the same. He’s taking unknowledgeable people who rely on him for honest instruction and essentially preparing them to die with confidence in the name of the almighty dollar. Screw him (sorry, Jonn’s cracked down on rusty chainsaw comments, so just insert a somewhat more vitriolic epithet there 🙂 ).
He may have useful skills to share if he really did later become a Federal LEO. Which buggers a couple other questions. 1) Did he use false claims related to military service to do so? 2) Alternately, is that yet ANOTHER false claim? Well, he does say he’s a “Federal Agent.” I guess I could make the same claim, not that I ever do. He just sounds like an opportunistic doucherocket.
I went through FLETC in 95 after I got out of the Air Force. and as far as I can remember, you have to be part of an agency to run the range. I think this guy is full of BS and was never a FA instructor for FLETC. I think he is just using the FLETC Firearms instructor as a way to inflate his bogus resume. The Background check should have found out that he was a scamming liar.
This LSOS is exactly the kind of guy who makes me start to doubt everything about the credentials of almost everyone I meet these days.
They have a fellow on their website with a very impressive list of military credentials, I wonder how he feels about working with someone who has so much trouble with the truth…
Sadly, because of this guy I question the credentials at everyone at that school now. Liars tend to gravitate towards one another.
But that’s just me…
Federal Agent, huh?
This should be fun.
Turd.
I am wondering how long before his supervisors get wind of his being a fraud will take. If John Kuhl is even a federal agent at that… maybe he is a TSA Agent extraordinaire like that not a licensed attorney in Oregon or Florida was?
Please. Don’t remind us of THAT “Federal Agent.” Sadly, that was my first thought as well. TSA has its share of wannabes who would inflate their service into “Federal Agent” status.
My opinion of most TSA slugs is that they were too incompetent to even cook french fries for a living, thus they went to work for the Government.
“Government is the last refuge of the nincompoop.” – Unknown
He is indeed a federal agent. I looked him up in the global. IEA for ICE. I have half a mind (I left the other half at the bottom of a bottle of tequila) to call FLETC tomorrow and ask if this guy ever instructed there.
I’m wondering (as I’m sure you are if you also have access to the DHS global) if he ever claimed veteran’s preference points for hiring or promotion purposes. I strongly doubt the HR contractors would know the difference between a DD214 showing a less-than-fully honorable discharge vice qualifying service.
E-2 in a year? Wow. I’m impressed. He shot up there like Pvt Murphy!
Then again, I can’t really talk. I went in as an E-3 because of college and being an Eagle.
Shoot, I was AD from 91 to 94, I also came in as an E3, and the ONLY time I ever saw an E2 to E3 promotion held up was because the Soldier was flagged due to a Statement of Charges. As soon as that was settled, he got promoted.
I’ve had to fill out the paperwork for one of those (I hated that part of supply). The guy lost a pair of binos and his bayonet sheath. Not the bayonet, just the sheath (stupid infantry).
After the three hours filing it out, the First Sergeant snacked the I.D.-10-T upside the head with the papers rolled up and told him to go to the surplus store and not to come back without binos and a bayonet sheath. Took the chucklehead about half an hour.
It wasn’t so simple in his case. He was a good and squared away Soldier, but he put an M945 5 Ton Bridge truck in reverse while it was in low transfer, and it destroyed the transfer case. 2 months of NPD (No Pay Due, just $50 for haircuts, toiletries & boot polish) and his E3 promotion was delayed until that was over with.
Yeah, I agree with you. This guy is a world class charlatan. I’m gonna miss all the rusty chainsaw comments and the rest of the good old fashioned hate, but if Jonn says tone it down, the dude abides. I don’t want to cause Jonn problems and get him in trouble. Carry on HS Sophomore.
Climb to Glory…We’re on the same page.
Also nice reference to, “The Big Lebowski”. Love that movie.
I see Mr Bridges is touring with his band – “The Abiders”. Really.
That is awesome. He needs to do Vegas sometime.
The school’s Facebook page isn’t private. Feel free, as I did, to leave them a message.
I once spent some time sitting in a gazebo smoking a cigarette near the range at Ft. Benning where snipers ping away at metal plates, and I heard the “ping” every time one of their shots was true. So, like, that makes me a sniper too, right? Looking up at those pretty red and white towers makes me airborne, and all that time spent on Victory Drive makes me a stripper, and a pawn broker too.
+ An Penicillin dispensary
Meh… no PhD.
What is it with all these undocumented badasses working with the youths?
FLETC instructor?
Interesting. I know some folks who work there. I have a feeling Mr. Kuhl’s personal and professional lives are about to get more interesting than he ever expected.
Good.
I hope this fucker is ran out of a job.
I think he owns the school.
FLETC = Federal Law Enforcement Training Center.
I don’t think he owns that one. Except in the sense that we all do. (Well, the 53% of us who actually pay taxes, anyway). 😉
Just heard back from a friend who was a federal LEO in Arizona. The friend said that he was at FLETC the same time that Kuhl listed himself as an instructor there. The friend has never heard of him, despite being a LEO in southern Arizona for about 15 years.
Well, I’ve said this before but I’m not sure any real harm was done here. Aren’t these “tactical shooting academies” pretty much the military version of “Rock n’ Roll Fantasy Camp” anyway? As long as the student/trainee believes he is being trained by a gen – u – wine steely-eyed killer, isn’t he getting his money’s worth?
Or to put it another way – aren’t these “schools” sort of like airsoft with live ammo? 😉
Martinjmpr…I agree they are mostly like, “City Slicker”, Dude Ranches. Get to go play high speed ops with some guns and call yourself trained by the best of the best, ex-Army SF guy. They are mostly all worthless, except for the real ones like Senior Chief Don Shipley’s training course. Anymore, it takes a lot of vetting to know who you are dealing with. I do my own range time. Basically, hit the damned target consistently. I don’t need to run, jump, dive, roll over and come up shooting. Where I would need to defend myself or family, those tactics are worthless. Folks that don’t know what they NEED or are doing, paying big money, to get a cool certificate saying, “I’ve Been There And Done That”. I don’t know what to do with it now but by golly I got some cool training and this really spiffy, suitable for framing, certificate!
Would you want your local SWAT team to be training with this guy? And do you think that Johnny would tell any PD looking to improve their shooting skills that he’s really a fraud?
From the course description on the “1000 Yard Long Range Rifle Training”
[quote]This course is taught by a current federal law enforcement firearms instructor and former U.S. Army Sniper.[/quote]
[quote] It is applicable to many different aspects including military, law enforcement, competition and hunting.[/quote]
Why would a real SWAT team train with a bunch of clowns like this? Does that even happen? Don’t most SWAT teams get their training from other LE Agencies who hire vetted, qualified instructors?
For that matter, any PD or Sheriff’s Dept dumb enough to pay taxpayer money for training without checking the background of the trainers probably isn’t worth a crap anyway.
With the proliferation of these “shooting schools” I can only assume that most of their clientele are middle aged wannabes and never-weres who are living out their “Operator-as-f**k” fantasies with live ammo.
How many local LEO agencies, looking to save a buck, are going to send in a FOIA on the local gun school? How many even know how to do that?
And what happens if Joe Normal, wanting to learn how to use that cool new M4 he just got enrolls with this clown, and the worst happens? Poor guy just wants to learn how to defend himself, gets his head stuffed with made up nonsense by a poser, and now is about to get the Zimmerman treatment.
And, if you look at the photo gallery page, they have in fact done training for Law Enforcement in the past.
I haven’t been to this particular website yet, but if you recall The Stunning Agency (flaming squirrel, anyone?), they had quite a few photographs implying that they had military helicopters at their disposal. Maybe this guy picked up some mad Photoshop skills from an “honorary” CPO/Kamikaze pilot.
That’s really not true. I recently became physically impaired and was looking to learn basics for long range shooting as I can physically lay down. I took his class and am feeling pretty damn cheated. I trusted someone I should not have. But I did no running and rolling around and am most assuredly no wannabe. I was just trying to adapt to my new life as best I could. I’ve been shooting since childhood and was initially trained by a fed agent – my dad!
Around here the SWAT guys ride around in their MRAP. Then they bust down the door shoot the dog and tase an 80 year old. But they look tactical and all.
I still do not understand why Police forces need MRAPS. The town next to us just got a surplus MAXX Pro. It’s not like the police are going to go places where IED’s are an issue.
They look cool and Uncle Sugar is giving them away.
I got that. With shrinking budgets, one would think you wouldn’t want a vehicle that guzzles fuel like no tommorow though.
Bingo, there’s the turd in the punchbowl that the Dogpatch PD doesn’t see (taste) until they’ve inked the contract. The G will “give” them the MRAP for free. But Dogpatch PD gets stuck with the O&M budget. Starting with shipping it from wherever it’s being stored – “AS IS, WHERE IS!” – to their front door. If I were anything less than a PD for a large suburb of a major city, I’d pass on the MRAP and spend the money on a couple more decent community service officers.
The M1114 uparmored HMMWV I drove in A-stan got about 6-8 MPG downhill with a tailwind, I wonder if those MRAPS get even a third of the highway mileage of say, a fully loaded 4 door 1955 Cadillac?
Further down the bi.o page is Ethan Kuhl Son brother? Also the cav scout at
The bottom attended the combat life saving school, Most of us only had the course
I attended that same “school” at Ft. Drum in 2004. I’m not impressed with that on his bio. Looks like someone was trying real hard to “fluff” his creds.
Lol, everyone that deployed in my unit was CLS qualified.
I understand that they have changed the course now and removed the IV section after realizing soldiers were so focused on the IV’S that they neglected the other basics causing more issues.
Did the IV thing before we deployed to Panama. Some people should never be put around an IV. My arm was jacked up for a week.
I went Army CLS in 2011 as part of the Air Advisor Course at McGuire/Dix. The instructors said they dumped the IV training for multiple reasons. One reason was soldiers were totally trashing their veins trying to give themselves makeshift IV’s in the barracks trying to pump fluids to recover from hangovers. Apparently they had been caught at various Medical treatment facilities stealing IV Bags/Lines/catheters, so they could have a ready-to-go hangover kit in their rooms.
Ethan is his son…
He’s begun scrubbing his social media stuff. The first was his LinkedIn. He hasn’t got to the Facebook profile yet – he’s still an Army sniper.
Facebook scrubbed.
Dumbass turd. He needs to be ***** and ********.
Not entirely. Check out the November 2103 entry on the timeline. Still has his sniper and Special Forces crap on it.
I got Page not available.
He’s also scrubbed his website. No 7th Special Forces Group Flash and crest and no mention of “United States Army Sniper School”
Game, Set, Match.
He still has “Army Sniper” on his FB profile, though.
Maybe he went to Army Sniper school with Rick Fine.
“Felcho un-Khul” has changed it.
It now reads “Army Sharpshooter”.
After I just posted my last comment, what should come on the radio? David Bowie’s “Fame”.
Now if that’s not poetic, I don’t know what is.
How do you like your fame now Mr. Kuhl?
This sack of shit is still a federal “agent” huh?
I bet he included the same lies on his applications for employment.
http://contactbee.com/en/contact/view/5030901
Something is just not right though. Dude needs a PhD., or at least a Law Degree.
He’s still got that sniper and Special Forces thing going for him.
From the same site:
“John started his firearms career in 1983 when he joined the United States Army and was a member of the 82nd Airborne Division. John graduated from the United States Army Sniper School and later became a weapons expert with Special Forces.”
The assclown wasn’t Special Forces… he was part of that sooper sekrit organization called Special Feces…
Well, I knew he was going to fit it in there somewhere. He had a jam packed six months of active duty starting on 28 Jun 1983. If you scroll down on the timeline on his Facebook page clear to the end, he claims he went to Grenada. So, he went to ADA OSUT at Ft. Bliss, then to Basic Airborne and US Army Sniper School at Ft. Benning, then to Special Operations Recruiting and 3/4 ADA at Ft. Bragg, and then deployed to Grenada. That is sure a lot of movement/training in only a five/six month time frame. So I bet if you talk to him he’ll claim a mustard stain on his jump wings.
His bio on the school site has been scrubbed. He is now only a “sharpshooter”, and 4H instructor.
Good thing the 4H now offers tactical law enforcement training……
Can someone please explain to me why a civilian or LEO would go to, and pay an exorbitant amount of cash and not check out the schools instructors?
I mean really. Are people this stupid?
I don’t get it. Why would you pay for training that is taught by Airsoft rookies?
Don’t get me wrong, there are some real schools out there such as Mr. Shipley’s courses that teach real world practical stuff. The common civilian just doesn’t need that type of training.
Maybe I don’t understand because I have gotten some of that training in the Army.
Sadly, far too many people don’t know who the really good instructors are, and don’t know how to weed out the phonies.
I can answer why someone would go to such a school. For me, I searched for a Denver area school where I could get range time at 1000+ yards. You just can’t go anywhere around here and shoot that distance – maybe I should go to Texas. I also looked for a basic class. I have shot for years, but nothing beyond 5-600 yards. So, other than hunting and AR platform out to 300 yards, I’m a novice. I gotta start somewhere and his prices were comparatively cheap. Given my physical limitations, I was not sure I could even shoot prone and did not want to drop more than a few hundred bucks to find out. I have great respect for our vets, and therefore trusted him w/o question. Maybe a mistake, but I did actually learn a few things. Remember, civilians like me have limited options sometimes. I just want to improve my skills at a hobby that I can still do and very much enjoy. Additionally, I want to gain more skill in personal protection. I consider myself a responsible gun owner and am always looking to improve myself. Some of the places I contacted were unwilling to cater to someone who may not be able to physically keep up – shameful in my book. John was very accommodating / understanding. Don’t get me wrong, I am not going to defend the indefensible, and don’t like being duped, but I will forgive and move on…
NRA Whittington Center near Raton, NM is awesome and nearer to CO than TX.
This guy has the stones to try to copy my M.O.
– Colorado based
– Trainer of law enforcement
– Shooting instructor for questionable training academy
– Bios filled with fabrications and misrepresentations of military service
Well, I have news for this bum…
– I did in 58 days what took John Frederick Kuhl 53 weeks to do as far as military service (I win!)
– I have real SWAT and SOF guys that swear to my fake credentials (ignore that they tend to be on my payroll)
– I have a book with all sorts of fabrications that law enforcement live by
– I host known Russian spies at my house (but why doesn’t delta force call me back these days?)
– I ignore ITAR (that’s for wimps!)
– I have a bigger gut than that waif in the photo has
Please note that I am also take a “myself”.
Sincerely
John “Faker 6” Giduck
You’re killing me……. 🙂
Maybe the two of them could have a shovel fight to see who the better poser is?
I would pay good money to see that!
Kuhl’s answers to my posts about his “experience” on the schools Facebook page. Check out the pic of him for Nov. 15 2013.
“thanks for protection the honor of the Special Forces. The fact is, I am a very proud American that served my county and has been proud to be an agent for the United States Government. Each day it is my duty to locate, apprehend individuals that poses a threat to the security of our county. The U.S. Government has completely investigated my military back ground prior to me becoming an Agent. Thank you for all you have done and continue to do!”
and then in answer to my further queries.
“Let’s just say I went as far as I could and choose a different path. You and I are on the same side just different teams. Thanks Brother!”
In other words, he isn’t going to come clean and he’s trying to play off the lies.
Douchebag. He might come clean once he becomes more interwebs famous though.
Ask him if he thinks using our name and reputation, that we paid for in blood for personal and financial gain, is ok? (I don’t do FB)
He’s nothing but a bottom feeding scumbag that’s been caught.
Posted your comment to his company facebook page, as well as a link to ProfessionalSoldiers discussion of his douchebaggery.
20 years and still only an IEA? Can’t make it to DO? wonder why….bet OPR will be interested in your make-believe resume. Or your FOD for that matter. Now who’s the FOD in Denver….wonder if he would be interested in a link to this FOIA.
Question: Does hiding behind a tree with an M-60, and shooting guys in the back as they walk past qualify me as a sniper? They were pretty far away, maybe 20 meters. If shooting from concealment is sniping I’m gonna need to update my Bio. Is there a badge for “Bushwhacker” or “Dry Gulcher”? If not there should be. In this guys case he needs the “Four Flusher” tab.
This dude could zero in and hit a two-hole from 100 yards.
I have attended John Kuhl’s classes in the past and have become good friends with him and his family. After seeing these posts I had to step in and say something. John is a great guy and an amazing instructor, and i am appaled that people are trying to smear his good name. All the credentials he has posted are true, with the exception of the special forces. He was in SF training and made it through hell week but he decided that that wasn’t the life he wanted to live and so after 4 weeks of SF training he left. Everything else is true. He was a paratrooper. He was an army sniper. He is a certified instructor with FLETCO and he is a government agent. He is an amazing man and a great instructor that has a lot of knowledge. I would just like you all to know that you need to get your facts straight before you start trying to ruin someone’s business and job. The Colorado Firearms Training School and John kuhl are both amazing and I proudly support them in all that they do.
In the effort to “get our facts straight”, was he an E1 or an E2 when he completed “hell week”?
Sockpuppet cleanup, aisle four!
Be right there ASAP. Its getting sorta sporty over in the produce aisle right now…8-)
Oh sockpuppet,first off, the US Army Q course does not have a “hell week” second. The US Government says BullSh!t to those claims, so go stuff your sock up you know where.
Third – I think you have to be at least an E5 to even apply…
Out.
I believe that’s the case today. However, during the 1980s the Army had some SF enlistment options that guaranteed SFQC after completion of basic and Airborne.
However, in that case the guy’s assignment on reporting to Bragg would not have been “Duty Unassigned” at “82nd Repl Det”. Rather, it would have read “Student SFQC” with unit “SFWAR Tng Bn”. His record of assignments above shows no such assignment to SFQC.
Therefore, the claim above that he “started SF training but decided it wasn’t for him” appears to be, well, BS.
According to his records released by the National Archives (seen at the beginning of the discussion above), your hero served a grand total of 13 months in the US Army… I served on Ft bragg at the very same time he was there. There was no such thing as a year long enlisment. Shortest Army Enlistment you could obtain at the time was 2 years, and there were very few Airborne Contracts for that short a time frame.
He also got out at the whopping pay grade of E-2. I came in as an E-2…
He did not go to Army Sniper school, nor did he go t Special Forces Training of any kind.
Keep those blinders on… but he is not what he claims to have been. No idea what he has done in his roles in the Federal Government, and those all may be legit, but his army credentials he claimed (and has since scrubbed from the internet) are all completely bogus.
“I served on Ft bragg at the very same time he was there.”
Not only was I also there but in Special Forces weapons school the very same time when this bottom feeding scumbag says he was…..imagine that. Our’s is a small small world as the spineless coward John Kuhl just found out.
I worked with a West Pointer who was in 5th Group in Vietnam at a government job. We had a represenative from DC come in, and when they found out I was airborne began this incredible BS Story of Special Forces until my manager whipped out his I phone and showed a photo of himself and others in Vietnam with their Berets on.
I will never understand it. I blew my own oppurtunities, not going to lie to try and make myself feel better about that. Or lie to try and impress others to in order to take their money.
Dear Brittany,
Check with the bank before you deposit the check he gave you to pay for your posting. 🙂
If it’s like his Army claims, it’ll be bogus too.
Brittany – welcome back! Haven’t seen much of you for a few years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany_Murphy
I didn’t know zombies could post in the internet.
Come on guys! Except for that one tiny lie, he’s not a liar/embellisher/faker/valor stealer. There Brittany, helped you out some.
Thank you Brittany Murphy, I must have missed “hell week”. I didn’t even realize we had a “hell week”. I went through Special Forces qualification in 1983, the very same time this lying bottom feeder says he was there. There’s no “hell week” little lady, sorry, he’s lying again.
Team Sergeant: Clearly this is because you only pulled his Army records. The Navy records are what contains all of his secret squirrel/undercover records, where you will also find a notation that he did, in fact, attend Hell Week. ; )
Another common mistake is confusing the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, which is FLETC with it’s location in Glynco, GA.
Funny how folks who’ve never been there call it Fletco.
FLETC – not to be confused with “Flitch of Bacon Day” which is celebrated each year on 20 June. So…happy Flitch of Bacon day to everyone.
Out.
George, don’t forget Charleston. Those abandoned barracks were a real delight!
Well Britanny, what do you have to say now? Kuhl admitted that he lied about his SF and sniper background. Now how about you?
I have my Airborne wings. Does that mean I’m a sniper too?
Well, that didn’t take long. Following the script down to the last detail. Sock puppet shows up attesting to the good character of the latest poser, and has seen all of the “certificates”, removing any doubt. Based on your one statement, you have convinced us that this is all a misunderstanding on our part.
LEAVE BRITTANY ALONE!
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc&w=420&h=315%5D
sincerely
John “Faker 6” Giduck
Mr. Giduck,
Sir. You are a great guy, and you are amazing.
Very respectfully,
GDC
I am a great guy. Just ask me.
sincerely
John “Faker 6” Giduck
Unfortunately you will always be in Phildo’s shadow.
How many sniper schools does DOD run? There must be a zillion to crank out all the snipers that pop up here.
SJ: “sniper school” must be the new name for what we used to call “weapons qualification”. (smile)
Last month I shot expert on the EST 2000. Does this mean I can now call myself an “expert sniper”? Another line for the resume!
Be that as it may, I still wouldn’t pick a fight with Mr. Hand.
The Marine Corps has them on every street corner of every base that we occupy. We can barely keep up with the demand….
Posted 2 Jun on the school’s Facebook site:
LONG RANGE RIFLE COURSE
The Colorado Firearms Training School is offering a Long Range Rifle Course on June 8, 2014, on our private 1,000 yard range.
This course is taught by former Snipers, John Kuhl and Kevin Black.
Looking through Mr. Black’s bio, I don’t see any mention of sniper school or holding the sniper ASI. The closest thing that I can see is that he was trained in designated marksmanship. It might be time for another FOIA request.
To the person above
I am Kevin Black. I have never claimed to be a sniper (personaly) All things in my bio are true. I was tought by the Army Trained snipers in my unit on very basic long range shooting. I did not put on there that I was a sniper I am not in charge of what is put on the web site and do not have accesses to what is put on there. I started instructing with this company under the beleif that every ones Bio was true. Please don’t drag a honset Vet in to the lies of other people.
Kevin, it really appeared for a minute that John was going to do the right thing. Why the sudden disappearance of the entire website and facebook page? It makes you ALL look bad. Are you sure you want to be associated with this fiasco?
The reason i reply is that my name has been put out there. I want it known that i do not want to be a part of this and that i don’t want my name brought up again i did not lie and have never lied about my military career and i don’t want people saying i did. I would appreciate it if this portion of the blog would be deleted, I don’t want the association with the lies. I am very upset about this situation and have been lied to as well. Due to this I no longer will be associated with this company, I don’t want my name and my service to be tarnished by these lies.
Learn to spell and form complete sentences.
This school is where All-Points Logistics hold their corporate retreats.
Could be one of them “I shot so well in Basic they pulled me direct to Sniper School before I finished Basic”ers… met several of them.
Just posted on the school’s website-I am sure that the threat of internal investigation by ICE prompted it but there it is.
“it has come to light that I have not been a part of the Special Forces by the group known as Professional Soldiers.
I regret to say that their claim is true, I was not a part of Special Forces nor a sniper. I have lived this lie for many years and wish to make amends. I am embarrassed, ashamed and was wrong in making this claim and wish to apologize to all Special Forces for misrepresenting myself in making this claim. I have nothing but complete respect for the proud and honorable soldiers of the Special Forces and highly respect the service they perform.
In addition if I have caused any issues for anyone else due to this wrongful claim I also deeply apologize. I have updated my biography to reflect my true military experience and credentials and have made and am in the process of making personal apologies to family, friends and customers around me that I have deceived.
I was in the U.S. Army 82nd Airborne Division as a paratrooper for only 13 months, and then discharged honorably.
Truthfully ashamed.
John Kuhl”
That was pretty fast. Seems like a fully contrite apology to me. No excuses and no begging for sympathy.
Here’s my take as an outsider looking in. These douchbags never apologize to the fallen.
I never intend to have to write one of these “apology letters” but if I did, I think I would say something like: “And I apologize to the truly heroic men who legitimately wore the uniform of The US Special Forces and gave their lives in the service of this country. I took your selfless sacrifice and stole the valor that you earned and paid for with your blood. Your brave and selfless exploits allowed me to line my pockets for the last several years because I deceitfully asserted that your bravery, experience, and sacrifice was my own. What you paid for in blood, I managed to steal with a lie. For that I am sorry and I will spend the rest of my life attempting to humbly square my accounts.”
Oh well, maybe one of these days…but I won’t hold my breath.
Your cynicism is well founded considering the turds we’ve seen outed here.
You didn’t get a screen shot of the statement did you? It looks like he took down his website and his FB page for the business.
Sorry Jonn, I didn’t. JD at Professional Soldiers might have since dumbshit sent him an email with the exact same content. I can tell you that IEA Kuhl is feeling a lot of heat right now.
Maybe he’s making good on his promise to post his “real” experience. Trying not to be cynical here.
Not to mention this turd’s dates of service predate USASS. I don’t know how/why I missed it the first time…
I just recently discovered sites like this so my experience is this blog and Guardian of Valor, I have one simple question;
If you’re going to impersonate someone or something why pick one of the smallest communities on earth to try to join?
Chris
Several facts that I find interesting (and others may as well):
1) His business partners and the gun range he teaches his classes at (Quail Run in Kiowa, CO) all continue to support and back him.
2) He is spending time deflecting this situation to anyone that will listen as one where he was targeted by some internet group that is, “emailing everyone and making him look bad and causing all of the drama.”
3)he states that he “put that info on his website 30 years ago and then forgot about it-his family didn’t even know – but those ‘whoever they are guys’ made a huge deal over nothing.”
He may have issued a public apology (which has since been taken down and no longer visible to others), and maybe it is just me, but I don’t think he has really gotten the full picture…
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/elizabeth-man-pleads-guilty-in-military-fraud-case-john-kuhl-lied-about-army-past-to-gain-business11212014
Latest update.. I’ll ruin the surprise- he was convicted.
I feel the need to come forward and say that as Colorado State Fair shooting sports champion, I have learned nearly everything I know from Mr. Kuhl. Regardless of his credentials, he is an incredible, highly informational man. He has gotten me beyond where I thought I could have ever gone. He has taught me everything I know about rifles, pushed me to be able to hit steel beyond 1,000 yards, gotten me to county and state grand champions, progressed me through firearms training, and all together is quite a remarkable man I’m proud to call one of my biggest role models.