Vet as a phony cop

| January 28, 2012

Blanka sends us a link to a Washington Post story about Daniel S. Alloway who put on a badge, a siren on his SUV and started policing his community;

Eugene Police Officer Dan Baker drove a blue SUV and set off sirens to clear cars in front of him at traffic lights. He pulled over motorists — though it’s unclear if he ever gave out tickets. And when he stopped by a youth shelter as a volunteer, he came in full uniform.

There’s just one problem: There has never been an Officer Dan Baker in the Eugene Police Department.

AKO says he is a Guardsman, a Specialist E-4, in the Oregon National Guard unit, CO.A 2-162 Infantry ORARNG. But suddenly, in the 9th Circuit’s jusridiction, it not free speech to put on a uniform and act like someone you’re not;

“People get automatic credential with the public [in a police uniform],” McKee said. “Somebody could use that to isolate a person, a 16-year-old, and that is dangerous.”

Yeah, that could never happen in a military uniform, could it?

Alloway, 39…was deployed three times to Iraq, in 2004, 2007 and 2009, serving a year tour each time. An Oregon Military Department spokesman said Alloway received service awards for each tour.

Three tours to Iraq and he’s still an E-4? It doesn’t look like he was wired too tightly in the Guard, either.

Category: Phony soldiers

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OWB

Certainly I am in no way condoning this behavior because there are just as many ethical issues with impersonating a cop as with impersonating anyone else.

However, can someone explain to me why it is OK to impersonate a veteran or member of the military but it is not OK to impersonate a cop? OK, I do realize that consistency is not a virtue of entirely too many in our society, but here’s hoping that maybe one of them can explain this.

Yat Yas 1833

One of two things is going to happen. Either they are going to have to let this limp-dick go or overturn the 9th circus. Forget the ethical aspect of it. He’s done EXACTLY what the posers have done. He wore a uniform he’s not authorized to wear and decorated it with a badge he didn’t earn. According to the jerkstices on the 9th circus, he has a constitutional right to do this! It can’t be one way for some and another way for others. As long as he didn’t gain anything from impersonating an officer, he has done nothing wrong.

Redacted1775

9th circus, fortunately, has a high rate of overturn.

DaveO

In the Guard, one can be any rank for a long, long time. Had E-5s that had been E-5 for nigh on 20 years.

As for this police poseur: no mercy. Fraud is fraud. I don’t expect the leftards to understand this but fraud is wrong no matter who does it.

I recommend this Cops-wannabe for the next round of the JesseMacBeth competition.

Chockblock

Once again our elites miss the point. To the media a uniform is a costume. We can’t count on the media for any help. The only reason this made news was because this turd was in the guard. This would have been a blurb otherwise.

There are laws against posing as a cop. Something for this dude to think about as Bubba look at him.

CI Roller Dude

Sounds like that boy is a few bricks short of a full load.
His elevator doesn’t got all the way up, etc, etc.
3 tours to Iraq and alreay an E-4. I had one in my platoon, but his problem was he’d get drunk and punch punk ass officers out. I thought my drunken E4 should have been promoted.

T-9

My best friend is a Eugene deputy sheriff. Have to call him and ask him about this one.

McNally

The Guard is terrible when it comes to promotions. It’s not just a matter of making points like it is on active duty, there also has to be an available slot. Further, a lot of times the only available slot might be on the complete other end of the state, and you’d end up spending half your drill pay in gas just to go to drill.

With the way Guard promotions work, it’s theoretically possible for the guy at the top of the list to not get promoted but the guy at the bottom of the list would if the guy at the bottom of the list was willing to drive from one end of the state to another to pick up an extra $20 a month and nobody else was. Or maybe the unit with the slot is full of idiots and nobody wants to serve with them. Whatever the case may be.

Yeah, the dude’s an idiot. But being an E4 in the Guard for friggin’ forever isn’t NECESSARILY a strike against him.

Jon The Mechanic

If he is in an MOS where he does not have an open E-5 slot that he can be promoted to, then it is believable that he could be an E-4 for 25 years. the way NY state does it, you have to be willing to travel to wherever the open slot is (IE, you live in Rochester and there is an open E-5 slot in Queens) and if it too far away you might not want it.

Jon The Mechanic

Sorry, didn’t even read what McNally said…

Doc Bailey

I don’t give a shit if the Guard requires you to suck off a General officer. Wrong is wrong and shitbag is shitbag. Try to make excuses for that and sooner or later you wind up with a system doomed to fail.

Anonymous

The problem with impersonating a cop is your violating someone’s civil rights when you pull them over. It doesn’t matter if he issued a ticket or not. I would be interested the court’s ruling on this one.

Old Trooper

@5: “There are laws against posing as a cop.”

There is a law against posing as a member of the military, also, but the 9th circus said that doesn’t mean anything. So, if they want to be consistent, this should get thrown out as well for the same reason.

Old Trooper

@12: You can make a citizen’s arrest in pretty much every state, so it depends on what the prosecutor thinks will hold up and as long as it makes it to the 9th circus, it should be given the same gravity as stolen valor.

Anonymous

Your right any citizens can make an arrest for disturbing the peace or saving the lives of general public but not for minor traffic violations for example speeding. Even a regular police officer with credentials must be radar certified to conduct a traffic stop for speeding. He must observe the car traveling at a speed base on a proven formula confirmed by radar to have probable cause to make the traffic stop. Also, a routine traffic stop should not take longer than 45 minutes based on the Supreme Court decision. It sounds like he was just driving around playing police officer by hitting his lights and pulling people over.

Old Trooper

@15: No different than those that roam around playing soldier.

CockStockandBarrel

The guy was probably just trying to score some free donuts

Anonymous

I disagree Old Trooper someone impersonating a police officer is giving the public the impression of arresting powers. Someone posing as uniform service member is seeking attention. Unless, that person is getting some type of momentary benefit like false VA claims or elected to public office based on a false service record. Than they are just thieves stealing tax payer’s money.

Old Trooper

@18: There is at least one instance where a phony was using his fake position in EMS situations. Remember, many National Guard troops carry some enforcement authority in emergency situations or as directed since there are several documented instances of NG troops manning road blocks, etc., in non emergency situations. As for the other fake cop; it doesn’t say if he gave out any tickets or attempted to arrest anyone.

McNally

@11 We weren’t making excuses for anything, we were explaining. I’ve been in six years and I’m still an E4. Calling someone a shitbag because they’ve been in since the beginning of time and they’re still an E4 is starting to hit close to home.

Anonymous

That’s true it didn’t say if he arrested or gave out tickets. Just by stopping someone he violated their civil liberties. The only law enforcement organization that does not require a warrant when conducting a stop in a search and seizure is the Coast Guard. In the National Guard’s case the key word is “as directed.” If National Guard are operating in a law enforcement role they are in the company of law enforcement officers with detaining powers not arresting powers.

UpNorth

Anon,@15, is what you’re referring to here, “Even a regular police officer with credentials must be radar certified to conduct a traffic stop for speeding. He must observe the car traveling at a speed base on a proven formula confirmed by radar to have probable cause to make the traffic stop”, mandated by a SCOTUS decision?

Anonymous

That may be a SCOTUS decision I’m not sure. It’s definitely a departmental policy in my department and state. The time for a routine traffic stop and using a working dog to get probable cause is a SCOTUS decision.

jvwardle

I know this guy!

He was one of my boys back about 1996-7.

He was an E-4SPC then and you’re right, the elevator does NOT go all the way to the top floor.

Months of off drill training with this guy and he couldn’t get past a react to contact drill for STX lanes.

….Holy clap….

CockStockandBarrel

A guard guy posing as a cop I am not sure which one has a bigger beer gut.

UpNorth

@#23, yeah, I knew about the time constraints on a stop and such. I don’t know where you work, but I could always stop, and write for speeding, if I had done a good clock on the car, as we didn’t have a single radar that would clock a car going in the same direction as I was travelling.
CSB, you mean like the soldier in this photo? http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/7/2010/03/fatsoldier.jpg

Flagwaver

I know this retard. I used to be a supply-bitch in Eugene when they shared the Armory with A Co. Yeah, he is ate up like a soup sandwich. He pissed hot three times in his career and showed up to first formation hung over at least once a drill for the year that I was there. You are right to suggest about his elevator… hell, I don’t think the thing is even hooked to the cables.

Trent

@27. I have a passing knowledge of this guy as well. I’ll have to ask my BC about him and see what’s more of the background. BTW, is it possible we have worked together in the Oregon Guard at some point?

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USAR Grunt

@#26 That photo sure looks like USMC poser William “Bill” Blake, gym rat extroadinaire. Is he doing curls with pizza boxes?