Acting SecNav Takes A Special Moment…

| April 6, 2020

CAPT. Crozier (insert) and SecNav Modly

…To Beclown Himself.

Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly made an unfortunate speech to the crew members of the USS Theodore Roosevelt. He blasted their former Captain, Brett E. Crozier, and told the Sailors to stop whining and do their jobs. Listening to the sound track, the Sailors make colorful remarks concerning the Secretary’s pedigree, sexual habits, probable future as Acting SecNav, and suggestions of where he should go, and what to do when he arrives there. This is an unforced error, and not a good look for him.

In a TAH first, both LC and Poetrooper send.

Navy Secretary Slams Captain Of COVID-19 Stricken Carrier, Media In Surprise Visit To Ship

The Navy’s top civilian also chastised the crew for its display of support for Captain Crozier as he left the ship after he was fired.


Acting Secretary of the Navy Thomas Modly made a surprise visit to the Nimitz class aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, which is presently docked in Guam amid a major outbreak of the COVID-19 novel coronavirus on board, this weekend and gave a terse speech regarding the firing of the ship’s former commanding officer Captain Brett Crozier. Last week, a letter from Crozier, in which he pleaded with his superiors to allow the bulk of the crew to leave the ship to stem the spread of the virus, leaked to the press, which subsequently led to Modly relieving him of his command. Videos emerged afterward of the carrier’s crew giving the captain, who has now reportedly contracted the virus himself, a hero’s sendoff.

Reuters was first to report that Modly had flown out to Guam to visit the carrier and make the speech, in which Modly reportedly suggested Crozier’s actions had been “stupid.”  Vice Adm. Bill Merz, the commanding officer of the U.S. 7th Fleet, a top Navy headquarters in Japan that oversees operations in the Western Pacific, also visited the ship.

The Navy’s top civilian official said that the captain may have been either “too naive or too stupid” to run the ship because of his decision to send the letter in an unclassified format to a large number of recipients, which made it easier to leak to the press, according to the transcript now circulating online.

The Navy’s official justification for relieving Crozier was a loss of confidence in his ability to command as a result of the letter, which Modly has said was unnecessarily alarmist, and over how it was disseminated, allowing granular details about Theodore Roosevelt‘s readiness to become publicly known, including to America’s adversaries. The service has not directly accused the captain of publicly releasing the letter himself.

“If he didn’t think, in my opinion, that this information wasn’t going to get out into the public, in this day and information age that we live in, then he was either too naive or too stupid to be a commanding officer of a ship like this,” Modly said, according to the transcript, that a member of Theodore Roosevelt‘s crew reportedly made from a recording of the speech, which was carried over the ship’s intercom system. “The alternative is that he did this on purpose. And that’s a serious violation of the UCMJ [Uniform Code of Military Justice], which you are all familiar with.”

The entire article may be viewed here, including a transcript of the speech and a link to the audio file: The Drive

Thanks, LC and Poe.

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  1. H1 says:

    Hearts and Minds baby, Hearts and Minds….

  2. LC says:

    In a TAH first, both LC and Poetrooper send.

    Poe sent it in, too? Then I retract my submission! 😉

    My thoughts are with all the sailors – may they recover soon, both from the virus, and from SECNAV’s idiocy.

  3. outside looking in says:

    The Captain was wrong in his lax message delivery system. The SecNav is also wrong and compounds the problem with his own stupid behavior.

    Only the “best” and “brightest”……scary

  4. 5th/77th FA says:

    Not sure who cut in on who’s dance there. And not sure which one I need to tell to watch where the other’s hands are. Reminder to all, the comment that Ol’ Poe made the other day on he didn’t mean to interrupt a dance between myself and LC. 😆 😆 😆 Are they both cheating on me? With each other? 😆 😆

    Don’t appear as if SecNav thought this thing out very well. From what I understand, unless the Captain of a ship is a real dick, most of the Sailors have a high level of respect and support for the Skipper. I think I would have let this dog sleep for a while before diddy bopping to Guam and making a Power Point Speech. And now the Skipper is down with the bug too.

    We for sure haven’t heard the last of this story.

  5. Mick says:

    Bad move here by SECNAV. Really bad move. Getting emotional (angry) in public in front of the troops and berating them. Not good.

    He needs to stay in Washington DC and let the Admirals do their jobs out there in 7th Fleet. Speaking of the Admirals, where the hell are they, and why aren’t they out in front of this? That’s what SECNAV should be focusing on.

    SECNAV is a USNA grad and a former Naval Aviator. He should know better than to pull this kind of crap. He relieved CAPT Crozier for cause. His personal involvement should end there.

    • AW1Ed says:

      If anything, he should have sent a well respected representative to try to bolster the crew and support them, not dress them down.

    • NHSparky says:

      More importantly, why is HE reliving Captain Crozier? What he SHOULD have done is call the Strike Force Admiral and tell him to handle it.

      Then to top it off with his YFG speech? Real fucking bright.

      • MI Ranger says:

        Well, that is what he did. The Strike Group Commander is the one that actually relieved him. But yeah, that speech…probably why he is only the Acting Secretary…will there be a loss of confidence in him as well?

  6. Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH B Woodman says:

    I heard a brief excerpt of that dressing down. The SecNav said to the effect that Cpt Crozier was either too naive or to stupid to command a ship like this.
    All I could do was wince, and think, “ouch, that’s gonna leave a mark. and there goes Cpt Crozier’s career, he might as well turn in his resignation now”.

  7. The Other Whitey says:

    I figure we probably don’t have the whole story, but based on what’s out there for public consumption, it looks to me like CAPT Crozier chose to sacrifice his career for his crew’s sake when Big Navy couldn’t be bothered. For what it’s worth, this also appears to be the crew’s take. If that’s the case, God bless him.

    This demonstrates why integrity always seems so rare at the top.

    • H1 says:

      Sorry about the report…

      Concuring with TOW.
      I REALLY would like to see the msg traffic prior to the dustup.
      Were they giving him a plan.
      Or, platitudes….

    • AW1Ed says:

      Ward Carroll is a very well known and respected Naval flyer- pretty sure he was a Tomcat RIO. Bumped into him here at Pax River several times.
      Thanks, LC.

  8. Bill R. says:

    There are some missing components to this story. ONE, did the Captain attempt to get help within the chain of command for his crew BEFORE writing that letter? TWO, who did he write that letter to, and lastly, WHO leaked it to the media?

    I get it, he broke OPSEC and that is a huge no no, but was there a reason an O-6 with decades of training for a premier position committed what he had to have known was a career-ender?

    • timactual says:

      He must have, since the Sec. himself refers to prior communications between his office and the Captain.

      “I get it, he broke OPSEC ”

      Right. The old “national security” excuse for covering up all kinds of things. Sorry, not buying it any more.

      • Stacy0311 says:

        OPSEC has become a sad joke only used as a cudgel to beat people back in line.

        No shit, there I was,(true story) before we were even wheels up on my last deployment ( June 2017) Division PAO published a picture on Facebook caption “1SG Soldier’s name, of Smalltown TX says goodbye to his wife and 3 kids as he leaves for a 9 month deployment to Iraq” (fill actual soldier’s name, name of town)
        We, of course, got he 157 slide PowerPoint brief about social media and OPSEC.

        The implied meaning of CAPT Crozier’s relief was “lost confidence in his ability (to cover for higher ups when they screw up)”

  9. QMC says:

    “In this information age that we live in Acting SecNav might be either too naive or too stupid to be in command of our Navy making speeches over the 1MC like this”

    • NHSparky says:

      Yeah, nothing like tying up the bitch box for that amount of time. I can’t speak for carrier IC priority, but thank God there wasn’t a casualty or anything. That would have sucked, even if something similar to a submarine 4MC would have overridden the 1MC, but only in a select few spots.

  10. OWB says:

    So Acting SecNav decides that throwing a hissy fit is acceptable? Well, all right then. Close your door, send those in adjoining office space home and throw yourself a great hissy fit.

    If you want to remain on the public dole here are a few suggestions:

    1. Don’t throw a hissy fit.
    2. Don’t throw a hiss fit in front of others.
    3. If you must throw a hissy fit, don’t do it in public.
    4. If you insist upon ignoring 1-3, don’t pitch your hissy fit at the crew you just screwed.
    5. Never, ever forget that anything you say at any time anywhere you might be is being recorded and can be shared with world. It’s a guarantee if you ignored 1-4.

  11. Andy says:

    So, SecNav publicy calls the Captain “stupid”. Isn’t that exactly the kind of stupid we don’t want in our military? This is definitely a pot calling the kettle black moment. Acting SecNav should be fired immediately.

  12. Berliner says:

    ACTING Secretary of the Navy. He got out of the Navy after 7 years as a helicopter pilot. Then moved around to various financial jobs, in and outside of the government, including teaching Political Science at the Air Force Academy.

    Captain Crozier apparently wanted the message to be heard, which would explain the number of CC on the email. I guess it was a case of out of sight (in Guam)=not a priority. The following comes to mind:

    John 15:13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.

    Captain Crozier didn’t sacrifice his life, but sacrificed his career for the well being of his crew.

    May he and his ill crew members fully recover.

  13. timactual says:

    “but there is no, no situation where you go to the media”.

    They are called whistleblowers, and political hacks like the Sec. hate them worse than hemorrhoids. Sometimes things need to be publicized, and so far I agree with Capt. Crozier that this was one of those times.

    That’s as far as I got in the transcript, I may read more when I cool down. In the meantime, fuck that s.o.b.

  14. Charles says:

    The Navy does have a peculiar mindset, as compared to the Army:

    The Navy mans the ships.

    The Army equips the man.

    And so it is that the SHIP carries the priority. When one of only a few nuclear aircraft carriers goes “C-4” Not Combat Ready, it’s a big deal. A very big deal.

    When I was the operations officer of a Special Forces company, the readiness posture of our A Teams was classified SECRET.

    When I was the Commander of a JAG Detachment, the readiness posture of my Detachment was classified CONFIDENTIAL.

    I suspect that the operational readiness of an aircraft carrier is also classified appropriately.

    There are times when a CG will notify HQ that his division is in fact C4. General Sid Berry did that when the 101st Airborne Division returned from Viet Nam missing people and parts. But he did it “in channels” and for the purpose of getting HQDA to realize that “penciled in” readiness was no substitute for the real thing.

    He didn’t telegraph that to our adversaries.

    Captain Crozier said “We are not at war!”

    That’s what they said on the morning of December 7, 1941 at a place called Pearl Harbor.

    • H1 says:

      The first kid emailing mom that his shipmate had the Rona breached that secret. Then it was just a race to not sea worthy.
      And, it didn’t sound like the good Captain was getting any meaningful feedback from the COC.
      CV’s are petri dishes on a great day.
      With an aggresive viral airborne virus.
      A fuse quick time bomb.
      Clear the ship, screen the crew, DECON and replenish.
      Not, “we’ll get back to you”
      I’m getting prior history with these two feels..

      • 5th/77th FA says:

        Hmmm, thought the same thing my own self H1. If there was maybe a point back in the day, when the former Navy Chopper Jockey mighta bumped heads with a former fast mover zoomie? Now the former is the SecNav wanna be and the other is “just” a lowly CV Captain. Most of my Navyspeak came from either Tom Clancy or here. Imma like some of the others up thread; (a) where were the Flags during all of this and (b) what is the “rest of the story?”

        I do know/remember this much from way back yonder when I was in the nuclear missile business and the ARS MI game. OPSEC was primary mission and if someone had no need to know, then you didn’t say sh^t. You damn sure didn’t let the public know when your unit was not mission ready.

    • timactual says:

      Perhaps Capt. Crozier notified his superior he was C-4 and the superior told him to make ready for sea anyway.

      I doubt Capt. Crozier suddenly had a mental breakdown and decided to terminate his career is such a spectacular manner.

      Classified readiness? I doubt Crozier informed the Chinese of anything they didn’t already know. They are not stupid. They are probably having the same problems in their fleet. And we are probably having the same problems in the rest of ours. It’s a pandemic of a highly contagious disease, you know. You can pretend it’s a secret all you want, but it ain’t.

    • MSG Eric says:

      I’ve had to do more Unit Status Reports (USRs) than I care to admit. Even doing one is more than anyone deserves.

      USRs have to be done on the SIPRNET and are classified between Confidential and Secret depending on your current status. (Deployments up it, among other things.)

      At the same time, you can login to DTMS and see the “readiness” of a unit based on their training status. That is literally on the internet. Reserve units also have ITRS, which is another internet database that shows even more data and information than DTMS on readiness. (You can add comments to a Soldier’s record for reasons why they aren’t ready, aren’t trained, etc.)

      I also think that the fact we’re announcing in public releases “Oh hey, in two years 2/3 brigade is going to Afghanistan, in three years, 1/1 is going, in 4 years 2/25 is going, in 5 years 3/10 will be going!” is ridiculous.

      At this point we don’t know what all was communicated to his chain of command. At the same time, it is damned odd that the SECNAV relieved him. (Why are they paying the 15 admirals between Dept of the Navy and the Captain?)

      The Navy is really weird though. In the Army higher commanding officers live for firing subordinates, they’d never let SEC Army get away with firing a commander, they’d get to the commander first.

      • Bom2motiv says:

        The whole CUSR process is canned right now. I’m a BN level training officer and the USR I did last week was reject by BDE because I wrote true COVID-19 training impacts. The. BDE S3 told me exactly what he wanted to write. Now I’m AGR in the guard so things might be different throughout COMPO 1.

        • MSG Eric says:

          NETUSR on the Reserve side is no different. We actually had a brigade commander a few years ago who wanted us to write what reality was. After he left, it went right back to “write what you want, as long as it’s what we want you to write!”

          I was actually called once by the USR department at the pentagon and asked to do a survey. I told them, “this USR system was created in the 70s for the VOLAR. It’s old and a waste of time since there are better ways to get the same information.” Her response, “Well, you and I have a job to do and as long as our bosses want to do this USR, we just have to do it.”

          Like, no shit. The irony in someone calling to ask my opinion and saying, “whatever…” to it. Oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t get the memo about what I was supposed to say to the survey person. I hate when I miss the, “This is your opinion” memos…

    • rgr769 says:

      I completely agree. O-6’s in command of critical weapons systems don’t get to complain to the media. Also, officers get relieved of command all the time because of things they didn’t do and because of the failures or misdeeds of their subordinates. After Firebase Maryann was overrun in the RVN by the NVA, the division commander, my brigade commander (O-6), and the battalion commander were all relieved. Only the LTC and company commander were at fault for the disaster (the bunker guards were all asleep when the attack occurred).

  15. Roh-Dog says:

    Sometimes making some SoB look bad is the greatest sin. I’m sure everyone could have handled this better, but according to the data I have on my failed marriage: when your already in a hole, stop digging.
    Oh, and chocolates smooth just about anything over.
    Now, can these boys stop having a pissing contest and get the f**k back to work. There’s a situation ah’goins on.
    And wait until those assholes on the Hill decide to poly tick this all scheißen. I’m going to take those 2 months off for my sanity.

  16. Commissar says:

    Fuck this guy.

    I am glad Trump will scapegoat him in 3…2…1…

    • AW1Ed says:

      Day-um. Is there a TAH-wide consensus here? For one brief moment the stars aligned, and all TAH/VG Commentators, Editors, and Admins come together in agreement. It’s an Epiphany.
      Mostly. Hey, I’ll take close, and it’ll be gone tomorrow anyway.
      Cool while it lasted, though.

      • 5th/77th FA says:

        Are bacon seeds sprouting wings? Is there a nip in the air around Lucifer’s AO? If a check is in the mailbox tomorrow, Imma buying a lotto ticket.

        • Hondo says:

          According to Dante, some parts of Hell are always, well, cold as hell. I think Jonn would have probably reminded us of that. (smile)

          RIP, amigo.

      • rgr769 says:

        I think most commenters here who agree here are predominantly enlisted and don’t understand what can get a commander relieved of his command. Command positions are not an entitlement. Buck up girls, the Captain knew when his letter got to the hate-America media he was going to get canned.

        • Commissar says:

          If relieving him of command was to be expected under the circumstances it would have been done by the fleet admiral or the PACOM commander.

          The fact that it was done by a appointed political toadie means it was a political decision made by the president or made to please the president.

          • rgr769 says:

            Using your psychic powers to determine who in the command chain first decided and recommended he be relieved? We are sick of your made up bs. Go back to DU where you belong, commie cuttlefish.

    • NHSparky says:

      Dear Dipshit,

      Trump can’t scapegoat him when he already tapdanced on his own fucking dick with golf shoes.

      Sorry to ruin your game of fuck-fuck, but he did it all by himself.

      • Commissar says:

        He was following Trump’s order. It was a political decision made by a toadie trying to please Trump.

        If this was truly about violating national security or genuine poor judgement he would have been relieved by someone in the direct military command, Most likely the Fleet admiral. If not then the PACOM commander.

  17. AW1Ed says:

    How soon we forget. USS McCain and Fitzgerald’s incidents led one believe the Pacific Fleet was operating at wartime tempos, with ships over tasked to sustain these operations at the expense of maintenance and training. This may have led to indifference as to concerns about ship’s material conditions and crew’s readiness, now including COVID-19. What has changed? These practices likely had support at Higher. Which brings up Mick’s point, where are the Admirals? Is this moot because the chain of command was willing to take risks with the health and lives of the crew? ‘Operational necessity’ means losing an asset for the greater good. That is a war time sacrifice, and one everyone with gold wings understands this.
    I heard Trump today say he’ll look into the issue.
    Stay tuned.

  18. SFC D says:

    At a time like this, you have to ask yourself one question:

    What would Lex do?

  19. Poetrooper says:

    What happened to all the folks who were here the other day saying Crozier definitely violated OPSEC and deserved to be relieved, a position with which I readily concur? I’ve done a good bit of reading on this and I haven’t found any officers who have had command responsibility and understand all its ramifications that support Crozier. They ALL say he needed to be relieved.

    Just because SECNAV steps on his crank doesn’t change the facts of the case.

    Sorry, Ed, if that spoils your consensus…

    • LC says:

      It’s not clear yet how the letter leaked – RADM Kirby, over at CNN, has an article here where he says:

      “If information comes to light that Crozier encouraged or caused the public disclosure of what should have been a confidential exchange of information to his leadership, then Modly’s lack of trust and confidence in Crozier’s command ability would certainly be justified.”


      So it’s definitely possible Modly had cause, as he’d presumably know the circumstances, and maybe all that’ll come out in the investigation. But the way he approached this was beyond tone-deaf, especially after seeing the videos of the crew’s send-off for Crozier. As AW1Ed said, send a respected officer to bolster the crew, not tell them their captain was stupid and / or naive, and they need to suck it up.

      • Poetrooper says:

        I haven’t seen the video but my understanding is that the big send-off was from a small portion of the crew–a couple of hundred at the most–but enough to give the mainstream media something to hang their story of “Virtuous Captain-Bad Navy” on.

        I ain’t frickin’ buyin’ it…

      • Poetrooper says:

        Oh for crying out loud, LC, you cite a CNN analyst as an authoritative source on a matter like this?


        • LC says:

          He served in the Navy for 30 years, then as a spokesperson for DOD, then State, then became an analyst for CNN… but your take-away from that long career and experience is simply that he’s an CNN analyst, and thus can’t possibly be an authoritative source? Really?

          I’m hoping I’m missing some sarcasm on your part here.

          • Poetrooper says:

            LC, the money quote from your thirty year admiral:

            “It was an unwarranted firing, reckless in its timing and petty in appearances. And Modly’s decision to dismiss Crozier could have a chilling effect on other commanding officers in similar circumstances, making them fearful of speaking up and thereby negatively impacting the Navy’s ability to combat the deadly disease.”

            As I said previously, Modly’s speech to the crew was assuredly unwise but his screw-up in no way changes the facts of the firing. And I rather suspect the harsh manner in which that firing was conducted was intended specifically to provide guidance to other commanders of how NOT to handle future outbreaks aboard vessels at sea.

            Like our resident military liberal here at TAH so frequently does, your liberal admiral understood the principle but got the facts of it it ass-backwards. Even you agree the firing was warranted so what does that tell you about the admiral’s judgment regarding the basic facts of the case?

            CNN’s analyst missed the point entirely. It is not for nothing that out of all the senior military officers available to serve as analysts, CNN would settle on this one–a flag who can be relied on to unflaggingly support their liberal narrative.

            Most who achieve flag rank have long ago put away their youthful liberalism–learning the priority that thinking takes over feeling when in command–but not all. The oft-quoted Churchill aphorism that “A young man who is not liberal has no heart but an old man who is not conservative has no brain,” comes to mind.

            CNN’s choice was a “no-brainer.”

            And yes, the puns are intended.

    • MSG Eric says:

      I don’t think anyone is right in this one. But we also don’t know everything to be able to make the determination one way or another.

      Tough call, but secnav is definitely a goober.

    • Roh-Dog says:

      He did violate OPSEC, probably a couple of orders and deserved to be relieved, but did he do it for a good reason? I’m just playing devil’s advocate on that.
      This just makes everyone look like an asshole and no good has or will will come from this mess.

    • AW1Ed says:

      Poe, Brother, the first rule of a TAH Editor/Admin* is never be sorry for one’s posts. Post it, own it, deal with it, and in time forget about it. Another will come along soon enough.
      I take your point and agree; Crozier for whatever reason stepped on his dick, and is paying the price.
      But the story doesn’t stop there. And I’ll, well, refer to the first rule. This story isn’t over and I’m on it.

      *There’s also the leather hide and sense of humor part. Heh.

    • Hondo says:

      Different issues, PT. CAPT Crozier doing something foolish (putting classified concerns relating his ship’s readiness in an unmarked letter distributed on unclassified systems, thus damn near guaranteeing that the letter would make its way to the media) was IMO at best an act of serious negligence, justifying relief for cause. But the SECNAV acting like a jilted girlfriend, traveling to Guam to call him out publicly and then berating the crew? Tone-deaf doesn’t even begin to cover that – even if his speech was 100% accurate. Wrong time, wrong place, wrong audience, and completely ill-advised.

      AW1Ed’s article above is discussing the latter issue. Can’t speak for other commenters, but I haven’t commented here because my opinion on this article’s topic has been adequately covered here by others. I’ve already said my piece about the former issue and didn’t need to rehash that – and it also seemed off-topic, even if related.

      • Poetrooper says:

        Ed, Hondo–I am in no way disagreeing with the consensus that the SECNAV screwed the pooch, unfortunately to the point that the media are using his bad behavior to excuse Crozier’s truly egregious lack of command wisdom. They are now gleefully engaged in adding Crozier to their liberal pantheon of military heroes:

        John Kerry
        Dickie Blumenthal
        Bo Bergdahl
        Bradley Manning
        Alexander Vindman

        But what I am protesting in this string is that some here seem to be buying into that foolishness that Modly’s ineptitude somehow earns Crozier a pass.

    • HMCS(FMF) ret says:

      The Skipper screwed up… now the Acting SECNAV.

      When the Navy dorks the squeakhole, they really DORK THE SQUEAKHOLE.

  20. Devtun says:

    Ring Knocker on Ring Knocker beat down. Hope ProPublica is working the Big Stick chain of events.

    • Comm Center Rat says:

      As a “90 day wonder” I take perverse pleasure in watching incestuous “ring knockers” ruin their careers.

      If warranted, after thorough investigation, Captain Crozier should be retired as a O-5 for his intentional public screwing of the pooch.

  21. Ret_25X says:

    Now, it is entirely possible that the Capt was a bonehead and CC’d CNN, but we need to remember that an Admiral’s office is a hotbed of gossip and RUMINT. The possibility that it leaked out the side door is real.

    However, the acting secretary’s error is unforced.

    Oh, how many times I told my GO, “sir, you have the right to remain silent–that is my best advice here”. Better to be thought a dick, than to open your mouth and erase all doubt.

  22. Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

    A case of two wrongs definitely not making things right.

    Crozier may yet be able to show that he sent several requests that were ignored, which changes him from bad guy leaking shit to whistleblower who was trying to get the right thing done to save lives. If he can’t show that his relief from command makes good sense. If he can show that he was ignored and the sailors were considered expendable to a virus just because some admirals didn’t want to look bad…well that’s a really ugly alternative and once again speaks to an ugly reality.

    Acting SECNAVs that want to be actual SECNAVs should have better judgment as well. There was no benefit to this nonsensical tirade. But perhaps he took his cue from his CinC who goes off on nonsensical tirades on a regular basis.

    Perhaps poor judgment all around, perhaps only on the part of the Navy and the SECNAV. We shall see, as I am not certain we have all the information at our disposal at the moment.

    My lack of faith in the honor and integrity of our government and its military perhaps clouds my judgment a bit, but the reality of that government and its military’s lack of honesty and integrity previously does little to reinforce the notion I can trust the government’s version of anything. When you will poison the water at a Marine corps base to include the families, women and children, of said Marines for thirty years (intentionally or not) and then fucking lie about it for another thirty years afterwards until you can no longer avoid the truth because the overwhelming evidence is public I would suggest your integrity is completely absent.

    I will give Crozier some slack here, no one gets to his position who is a fool. So he either became a fool or he became disgusted. I tend to think the latter might be accurate.

    • Martinjmpr says:

      I concur. Unless Capt. Crozier can show that he tried to seek help through the correct channels his blatant OPSEC violation more than justifies relief.

      OTOH, for the acting SECNAV to publicly call him out is boorish and unprofessional.

      It also makes him look like a bully for using his superior position to publicly humiliate a subordinate. Whatever happened to “praise in public, reprimand in private?”

      What’s worse, a public bitch-fight like this just makes the whole Navy look like a bunch of teenage girls in junior high. Nobody wins in a fight like this.

      And worst of all, both Crozier and Modly should know better.

  23. As a non-military US Citizen, my take on this is that Cpt Crozier is a hero; and the NAVSEC is a naive and stupid dick!

  24. rgr769 says:

    Well, the SecNav has submitted his letter of resignation in response to the FakeNews media furor. So, now we have two senior Navy leaders who have dick-stepped their way out of their positions.