New Zealand Gang Leader: We Will Not Give Up Our Guns

| April 1, 2019

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Sonny Fatu

New Zealand’s government on Monday introduced a bill it plans to rush into law that would ban the types of weapons a gunman used to kill 50 people at two mosques.

Police Minister Stuart Nash said that if lawmakers pass the bill as expected, the new law will take effect April 12, less than a month after the March 15 attacks. Plans for law changes were first announced by Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern in the days after the attacks, when the government imposed an immediate ban on the sales of such weapons.

NZ Gangs disagree. What was Plan ‘B’ again?

By: AWR HAWKINS
Mongrel Mob leader Sonny Fatu is making it clear his gang will not be surrendering their guns as mandated by the New Zealand government.

On March 20, 2019, Breitbart News reported New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s announcement that “military-style” semiautomatic rifles, “high-capacity” magazines, and certain gun parts were being banned. While making the announcement, Ardern encouraged New Zealand gun owners to go ahead and hand over their firearms.

Mongrel Mob leader Fatu told Stuff, “Will gangs get rid of their weapons? No. Because of who we are, we can’t guarantee our own safety.”

Fatu added, “The attacks between our organisations are gang-on-gang, they do not involve the non-gang members. Although there may be peripheral damage and violence that occasionally spills out into the public eye, it is absolutely and without intention for any harm to be caused to non-gang members.”

He referenced the March 15, 2019, Mosque attacks in New Zealand, saying, “It’s not in our culture to inflict harm on innocent people like what happened in Christchurch.”

Black Power member Denis O’Reilly echoed Fatu’s sentiment when asked if his gang would hand over their guns. O’Reilly said, “Of course not. Why the hell would you be talking about handing back guns when you’re talking about progressing your family and moving from pathology to potential. Where on earth would discussions about guns come up in that?”

So far about 200 gun owners have turned in their weapons. Read the entire article here: Breitbart

Category: Guns, Legal, Police

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MI Ranger

I seem to have missed something in the articles: When were we talking about pathology and potential and progressing your family. I thought we were just talking about disarming your citizens so they are easier prey!

FuzeVT

Sounds like the “gang leader” got himself a webpage that’s full of fancy words to make you seem smarter. Stress on “seem”.

David

Compare with “We gon’ bust that mothahfuckah uuup!”… I find it kind of refreshing.

cc senor

You know how it is with any of the commonwealth accents, eh. They always manage to sound more cultured.

Just An Old Dog

Toxic Deplorable B Woodman

WWNC We Will Not Comply.
Seems to be a good motto and gun owning philosophy.

Sapper3307

Vermont had three (3) bump stocks turned in, so that’s 100% of them.

MSG Eric

There’s only 5 people in Vermont anyway so that makes it most of the populace and all three are Bernie voters I’m sure.

Hondo

The same way “elections” in the former USSR an Soviet block nations were always virtually unanimous.

X-OTM1

Get names out of cemeteries.

SFC D

That’s the Chicago way.

MSG Eric

Vote Early. Vote Often!

Hack Stone

Hack Stone thought that the Chicago way is if they bring a noose and bleach to a fight, you bring a Subway sandwich.

jonp

No, it’s 3 since my wife and I moved away.

Comm Center Rat

Makes me wanna dance the haka!!

A Proud Infidel®™️

Since when have Gun Control Laws done anything other than help criminals by assuring them via legislation that law-abiding People will be conveniently unarmed VICTIMS?

26Limabeans

Somehow I agree with Mongrel Fatu.
Not sure why.
Seems like a reasonable chap. Family guy.

Animal

“Of course not. Why the hell would you be talking about handing back guns when you’re talking about progressing your family and moving from pathology to potential. Where on earth would discussions about guns come up in that?”

I’m glad you children were here to hear that genuine frontier gibberish.

Revva.

Fyrfighter

I think that’s actually ebonics Animal…

cc senor

Hits closer than most folks realize.

SFC D

Well. That escalated quickly. I’m shocked and appalled to find that criminals won’t comply. I suppose that’s why we call them criminals and not law-abiding citizens.

The Other Whitey

You really can’t make this shit up, can ya?

Ex-PH2

As long as they don’t shoot when I’m crossing the street, I don’t care how many guns they have.

However, I do wish these mass shooters like the Aussie guy who made the trip to shoot up two mosques would take their crap elsewhere, like into their bathrooms so that they can shoot what they see in the mirror there.

I needed a haka, and I found this one.

Fyrfighter

Ex,

Here’s another good one.. TOW you’ll like it as well.

https://youtu.be/kFuWXmRD8Hk

The Other Whitey

That’s how you send someone off right! Something about the Haka dance just reminds me of that Tecumseh quote: “Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.”

Fyrfighter

Damn right! Was a hot day, but more than worth the heat to stay and watch that… Those guys were impressive as hell.

The Other Whitey

I’ve been to more funerals than I prefer in the last couple of years, all of them good guys, all of them preventable. The Haka would’ve been appropriate for all of them.

Fyrfighter

I hear ya TOW, and concur 100% Headed to FDIC next week, and the pipes will definitely remind me of such events.

The Other Whitey

I have proposed to my bosses that each battalion should have a designated piper to lead wildland hoselays. Fuckers decided that the morale boost wouldn’t be worthwhile. Interesting, since they’ve consistently approved every morale-killing idea pulled out of any particular ass, amongst other…shall we say “questionable” leadership strategies for the last five years.

Fyrfighter

I hear ya.. My dad (who worked in wastewater), once told me “ya know, they’re right when they say that the cream rises to the top, but I can tell you from experience, shit floats too!”

Ex-PH2

Awesome sauce!!!

FC2(SW) Ron

“Black Power member Denis O’Reilly” Seriously? Bwahahahahahah! (inhale) Bwaaaaahahahahahahaha!

The Other Whitey

You rang?

SFC D

Hey, if “Robert Frances O’Rourke” can identify as Hispanic…

Ex-PH2

Anything for applause, right? Beto is a true political animal – phony on all fronts, mendaciousness personified.

A Proud Infidel®™️

Beatoff (*Oops*, Beto) O’Rourke is as genuine as a Civil War Issue polyester blanket!

cc senor

Had a battalion sergeant major in Viet Nam that was a San Pat descendant. Don’t Beto Boy falls in that category, though.

cc senor

change one. Insert pen and ink “believe” between Don’t and Beto. You know the drill.

The Other Whitey

Fuck that pínche gringo.

The Stranger

Segundo!

Hondo

Can’t speak about NZ, but I’m fairly sure that Aboriginal Australians are often referred to as “black”. It may be the same for Maori in NZ.

And I believe the last name is patrilineal in NZ. So if the guy is Maori and had a male ancestor who was a settler (or who converted to Christianity and adopted the O’Reily surname), well . . . .

11B-Mailclerk

Read up on the history of the Maori of New Zealand.

Having acquired muskets and potatos, they wound up conquering, enslaving, and often -eating-, the nearby Moriori who are effectively extinct.

The Maori haven’t forgotten. They know what happens to unarmed opponents. Always.

I suspect they may be eagerly anticipating some of the neighbors disarming. Their’s is quite a culture of retribution that would impress Highland Scots.

SFC D

So, the Maori basically adopted the IRA diet and tactics, then took it to an extreme…

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Well I suppose we can thank Sonny Fatu for putting the exclamation point on the reality of how gun control works in most of the so-called civilized world.

The shitheads don’t comply, what an amazing revelation. The criminals continue to commit their criminal acts, and the pathology of sociopaths and psychopaths continues against now unarmed citizens.

It only someone had pointed this out before they might have been able to avoid making such a dramatic, and ultimately, fucking stupid decision.

A Proud Infidel®™️

True, when was the last time ANYONE saw criminals lining up to turn their guns in as soon as a new Law was passed?

MSG Eric

Well, they line up to turn in fake guns and objects that look like guns for the money….

The Other Whitey

I have a couple of black rattlecans. My kids have a couple of worn-out squirtguns that don’t work anymore. I smell a money-making opportunity!

RCAF-CHAIRBORNE

Hmmmmm…..wonder how much I would get for my repro panzerfausts? Sure it would make National news. ‘Anti-tank weapon(really just wood and sheet metal) surrendered at buyback!’

RCAF-CHAIRBORNE

Forgot to mention….I used a toilet plunger rubber to simulate the shaped charge! Once it was all painted and marked correctly, it looked virtually identical to the original!

The Other Whitey

New or used?

RCAF-CHAIRBORNE

New, Dollar Store purchases
I made about a dozen for myself and friends. A nice decoration for your gunroom/mancave

11B-Mailclerk

If you are helpless and in fear for your safety and life, you will turn reliably to your political masters for help and vote for them.

They really understand that, and intend that. They haven’t quite been blatant enough to take your guns in exchange for giving you a set of knee pads, but they really don’t care if you skin your knees servicing them.

A Proud Infidel®™️

Given the way that Government treats us now gives us a picture of how it would be once we were disarmed. Just look at China, Cuba, Cambodia, Russia, Nazi Germany,…

SFC D

New York, California, Maryland..

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timactual

It certainly feels strange to root for the bad guys. Politics does indeed “make strange bedfellows”.

5jc

New Zealand’s government on Monday introduced a bill it plans to rush into law that would ban [some of] the types of weapons a gunman used to kill 50 people at two mosques.

FIFY

After all, authoritarian states are not always built in a day.

5th/77th FA

Molon Labe….and you better bring a lunch…and some help, you gonna be there awhile.

The Other Whitey

Whoever pries it from my cold, dead hand will burn the shit out of their fingers on the hot barrel. After they dig it out of the pile of hot brass. After they climb the wall of stacked bodies of those who came before them.

People sometimes ask me if it’s worth my life to keep my guns. I ask if it’s worth theirs to try to take them. I haven’t yet met anyone who’s willing to be the first, second, or tenth to bust through my door.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Solzhenitsyn would be thrilled to see you write that. He’d finally know that someone read The Gulag Archipelago and took him at his word.

Nothing good ever comes from simple compliance with government over reach. All the things that are good in this world came because decent men and women said, “enough, I will not comply” and backed that up with a firearm that killed someone employed by the state apparatus.

Solzhenitsyn wrote that had there been any resistance at all to the night time arrests it wouldn’t take long to stop the pogroms. When the security forces lose 5-10% of each group of policeman sent to round someone up the math doesn’t sustain a war of attrition for the state.

The United States has over 100 million gun owners. Should they all resist with armed disobedience the government has no choice but to consider the people.

I fear the reality these days however is that the bootlickers in that 100 million would turn out to be good Germans and turn in their neighbors to maintain their own little lives instead of risking all to win all.

In that regard Solzhenitsyn’s cautionary tale is lost on the bulk of our fellow Americans.

GDContractor

I’m surprised they didn’t declare those statements “hate speech” and lock them up on the spot. I guess NZ hasn’t “progressed” that much (yet). Lars et al have some work to do.

docduracoat

I am still at a loss to explain New Zealand.
A foreigner came into the country and committed a heinous illegal act.
So they punished all the law abiding citizens.
Where is the logic in that?

Fyrfighter

Logic? NO… Excuse? YES!

That is a perfect example of the difference between citizens and subjects..

11B-Mailclerk

Progressivism at work.

Synloy un

April fool’s that was duffelblog

Mike W.

They promise to ONLY shoot OTHER gang members !
Why can’t the drug scum here do that??

NHSparky

Something about, “When guns are outlawed,” keeps rattling around in my head. (shrugs) Oh well.

Dustoff

Im wondering if NZ will ban the simple pump shotgun as well. Most on the left do not realize the stopping power/devastation of a properly loaded 12ga shotgun. As Greg Cruze shows us with proper training and practice, a simple 12ga pump can be ran “rapid fire” and can be truly “scary” (Full disclosure: Being a Southern boy, I did have trouble with Greg’s New England accent..”Paaak the Caah”)

RCAF-CHAIRBORNE

Australia banned all semis, pumps after that Martin Bryant phucstick committed the Port Arthur Massacre in ’96.
However, many held on to theirs and continue to hunt and shoot with them especially in very rural areas. I saw quite few Norc SKS and M14’s when I visited.