Donald Trump Mocks Global Warming Alarmists with Record Cold Temperatures

| November 22, 2018

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President Donald Trump ridiculed the environmentalist left on Wednesday by pointing out record cold temperatures.
By Charlie Spiering

“Brutal and Extended Cold Blast could shatter ALL RECORDS,” he wrote on Twitter. “Whatever happened to Global Warming?”

“Forecasts predicted bitter cold conditions in New York City, with 10-20 degree weather and 15-20 mph winds. Washington, DC is also expected to suffer lower than normal temperatures of 20 degrees.”

“The lower than normal temperatures are the result of an area of high pressure in the Arctic Circle, sending a blast of cold air south, according to meteorologists.”

Record cold in NYC for he Macy’s Day Parade.

The temperature dipped to 20 degrees just before the 9 a.m. EST start, breaking the previous record low for the event of 21 degrees, marked in 1930, 1938 and 1972 according to USA Today.

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Category: Global Warming

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Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

You know the temps are really low when the thermometer goes down to zero point dip shit. Of course the alarmists will tell you that even though it’s cold today up north, it’s in the low 80’s down in Florida today so it must be caused by global warming.

desert

Gulley Vern…whut’s all that global warming doing on the white house lawn? Haven’t heard much from big mouth, little brain Gore lately have we LOL…wadda buffoon! imo

Poetrooper

I know the temptation to use weather events to mock the global warming fanatics is irresistible, I have done it myself, writing pieces on Al Gore and his snowed-in global warming conferences. But when we do this, we are making the same mistake they do, that is, using current weather as proof of trends that occur over tens of thousands of years.

Still, I understand the simply insuppressible urge to twist those climate fools’ cold noses, especially when one has the bulliest of bully pulpits and a Twitter account.

Happy Thanksgiving all.

And any of you global warmers lurking here, stay warm…

Slow Joe

Every time there is drought or a warm spell they use it, so why not use do the same and use weather against climate?

I am way past the proverbial moral high ground.

These people are evil and want to destroy our future with socialism and collectivism. They want to condemn my kids to a future of poverty and artificial scarcity.

I say let’s fight fire with fire, and turn their own arguments on themselves.

Where is my beer?

Perry Gaskill

…when we do this, we are making the same mistake they do, that is, using current weather as proof of trends that occur over tens of thousands of years.

You’re right, Poe, but it’s still amusing to watch them shake their tiny fists in anger before they seize a “teaching moment” to prove with geometric logic that all lifeforms on earth will be gone by 2100 unless we humans go hungry, cold, and in the dark.

11B-Mailclerk

-some- humans will go cold and hungry.

Not the masters, of course.

Never do -they- make the sacrifices required. No, never.

OWB

Nothing wrong with giving them a dose of their own medicine, Poe. While I understand that two wrongs don’t make a right, I really don’t think it applies here, at least for most of us. When they make their ridiculous statements, they are being sincere in espousing their religiously held beliefs. When most of us turn it around on them, point and laugh at their willful ignorance, we know that today’s weather is meaningless as proof of anything other than what the weather is today.

Besides, it just plain fun to watch them use the weather to prove “climate change” no matter whether it is unusually warm or cold, or simply normal conditions.

Graybeard

Well, Poe, I think what we really need to make clear is that the enviro-terrorists and Algore-sycopants argue for anthropocentric global warming, as if we puny humans actually can control this weather.

That and the fact that they were telling us that snowfalls in the north are “a thing of the past.” The repeated forecasts have been proven wrong, just like the witchdoctors of yore, and yet they still claim that this-or-that specific event proves that we are in a crisis.
If that is acceptable evidence for them, then a counter-instance is equally acceptable counter-evidence – even if we sane thinkers realize it is all irrelevant to what the climate is really doing.

11B-Mailclerk

A similar bunch were worried about “nuclear winter”. Turns out they exaggerated slightly.

But if we can do that, we can solve global warming in a noisy afternoon.

Ick.

But I do remember some ” Terraform Earth” articles as a child, that called for spreading readily available coal ash on icecap edges to hasten melting in the event of ice age return, or vaporizing the ash into the stratosphere to increase ice growth. Dumping a ton or three out of every airliner was one idea to cool Earth.

Not sure there is a government anywhere I would trust with the job, but we can do the engineering.

The problem is that no one has proved, as in repeatable experiments, how the interactions -actually- work. All we have is models that do a lousy job of looking forward, and multi-layer assumptions.

Ex-PH2

I think that meddling with a self-sustaining system like Earth’s is dumb to start with, and uniformed at its best. The arrogance is what gets notice from me.

The “climate gurus” are much less reliable than psychics. Psychics can get a lot of info out of you and use that to “foresee” the future. Those know-it-all climate twits? They can’t even get an accurate weather forecast for more than two days ahead, and sometimes not even that far.
They have no real connection to the real world, which is full of physical signs of activity. They only look at charts and graphs, and those are altered to suit politics.

So this WEATHER even that we’re facing up here in my kingdom was at first, on Thursday, supposed to be rain on Sunday morning with a possible 1 to 3 inch snowfall overnight into Monday.

Then Thursday evening came, and rain was included for Saturday. Then Friday comes up and we get “rain on Saturday and Sunday morning, with 3 to 6 inches of snow on Sunday evening”.

That abruptly changed this morning, when it became rain and falling temps on Saturday, with cold on Sunday and snow starting Sunday afternoon, with 6 to 12 inches, overnight, with blizzard conditions.

They can’t even make an accurate weather forecast, and I’m supposed to believe that they can do something to control which way the climate will go??? Seriously????

Okay. And I have a brand-new Model A Ford I’d like to sell you, hot off the assembly line.

ex-OS2

Brrrrr….

David

as always, “What we expect is climate. What we GET is weather.”

akpual

You know what the Kiki bird way up north would say.

11B-Mailclerk

Brass monkey alert

Ex-PH2

When you see a trend over a decade long toward early winter events like sleet and snow, and daily temperatures below “average” and continuing to be below average, even if not by much, then it may be a decadal weather trend, or it may be something else.

I’m just glad I keep track of this kind of thing. Hard data outweigh politics and pseudo-religious arguments.

Poetrooper

Ex, based on past glaciation cycles and time since the last advance of Arctic ice, I’m inclined to believe that it’s far more reasonable to think that we’re headed into global cooling and eventual re-glaciation.

11B-Mailclerk

Nature likes to play “psyche!”

Maunder minimum / little ice age

Younger Dryas

Etc.

Ex-PH2

We’re in a solar minimum now, and have been since 2006. Spotless Sun means lower solar activity, except for EMPs and the small magnetic storms called maculae on the solar surface.

I think we’re in more trouble than the CAGWers can possibly realize, but they’ll starve before you and I do.

Cthulhu

Global warming is about CLIMATE not temperature on a given day.

With global warming it is the AVERAGE termperature over time that is rising. Meanwhile daily temperatures can flactuate. In fact wild fluctuations are part of the pattern of warming in some areas.

As the global average temperatures rise long stable global weather patterns begin to become unstable. For instance the Polar Vortex is weakening due to higher average temperatures wish leads to LONGER and HASRSHER winters in some areas.

Ordinarily the strength of the Polar Vortex allows colder air to move into temperate areas closer to the equator. As the Polar Vortex weakens the temperant areas maintain higher average temperatures and the colder air remains in northern regions longer causing longer and colder winters in the north…

all the while GLOBAL AVERAGE temperatures trend higher.

Additionally, the higher average temperatures means more energy in our atmoshere leading to more severe and destructive storms… IN BOTH THE SUMMER AND THE WINTER.

You all smugly act like you have some secret understanding of the climate that leads you all to ARROGANTLY deny the SETTLED science that global average temperatures are rising.

The U.S. republican party is the LAST major political party in the WORLD that still denies climate change.

You are being manipulated into denying science for the sake of a POLITICAl and ECONOMIC agenda.

If you want to act like the question of man-made climate change is not a settled matter then fine. You would be wrong but at least you are closing the gap between your delusional worldviews and reality.

However, the question of whether climate change is real is absolutely a settled matter.

UpNorth

Who “settled” it? How did they “settle” it? Who determined that whoever “settled” the question was right? Would those who deem the question “settled” have a horse in that race, are they benefiting, either in the admiration of their buttboys in the AGW cabal, or their wallet, by going along to get along?
By the way, the only “arrogance” so far shown on the possibility of global warming climate change is that displayed by assholes like you, who deign to bless us deplorables with your knowledge. Meanwhile, why don’t you just ESAD?

26Limabeans

Thank you for the um.. LECTURE

2/17 Air Cav

Lars/Cunthulu: GFY.

11B-Mailclerk

Apparently, the Consensus is that you are actually our unlamentedly absent Zampolit.

You certainly do the proggies proud, deliberately blurring your opponents disbelief in -anthropomorphic- climate change versus their actual belief in -natural- climate change.

As I have commented elsewhere, earth’s climate has varied tremendously over time, with occasional periods of relative stability cycling around a particular point, then rapidly shifting to a different set-point. Those averages have been anywhere from “tropics at the poles” to “ice-sheets near or at the equator”, and variations in between.

Long before SUVs, we had climate variability.

So spare us your lectures that amount to “we are all gonna die unless we go Proggie/collectivist/Marxist”

Socialism, including proggies, killed more people than all the CO2 we will ever emit, you child of Lysenko.

Your “impotent rage” act is unpersuasive. Why not go virtue-signal on DU?

MSG Eric

Funny, people who disagree with climate change caused by man are denying science. But people who claim there are 67 different genders are perfectly reasonable to disagree with biology?

Some facts that are used to support climate change mean anyone who disagrees doesn’t care about the facts. But, when you say that gun violence statistics show a decrease in violent crime, gun crime, etc., it means you want children to be killed by guns because you don’t care and you’re selectively using facts to support your own claims?

rgr769

How about that latest progtard meme that it is against “science” to say men have penises and women have vaginas/uteruses. They truly do reside in another un-reality.

desert

Aw, don’t pick on them…they are still trying to decide which restroom to go into! 😉

OWB

Blah, blah, blah.

NHSparky

STFU, Lars.

timactual

“You all smugly act like you have some secret understanding of the climate”

Well, yes. I understand that temperature DIFFERENCES cause weather, not averages. The worst storms in the solar system are on Jupiter, which should be pretty placid if nasty weather is caused by heat.

I understand that the sun is the source of the vast majority of that heat energy you are worrying so much about, and variations in solar activity have a major effect on long-term climate, and even on short-term weather.

I also understand a bit about systems of partial differential equations and dynamic systems (and their complexity), which are, or should be, the basis of any serious weather or climate modeling.

I also understand a bit of statistical analysis and probability, and confidence intervals. And what constitutes a reliable sample.

No #1, nobody here or in the Republican party denies that the climate changes. What we/they deny is that man-made climate change is a significant contributor to that ~1 degree C. temperature rise, or that it is cause for hysteria and panic.

No #2, the science is NOT settled. I am reminded of Carl Sagan and the “nuclear winter” circus. When someone finally got around to examining his model it turned out to be garbage. The data and model(s) used by the climate fear-mongers is finally being examined, and the result will be the same.

“You are being manipulated…”

Horseshit. But if it makes you feel superior, go for it, I guess.

thebesig

Commissar: Global warming is about CLIMATE not temperature on a given day. You fell for President Trump’s trap hook, line, and sinker. I’ve been tracking global weather for over a decade. I lost count of how many times the warmists pointed to a single summer event, as “evidence” of “man-made global warming”. They’re willing to forget that climate is about long-range weather over a period of time when it comes to warming events. But, when it comes to cooling events, they act like hypocrites. More often than not, temperatures have been declining marked per month. Yet, those on the left would ignore that “more often”, and zero in on the “least often”. Then, there were data later and argue as if that is the main trend. It isn’t. Commissar: With global warming it is the AVERAGE termperature over time that is rising. False. Again, I been tracking global weather for over a decade. The overall trend has been a downward trend, not an upward trend. Average global temperatures flatlined at the beginning of the century, and are now on decline. This isn’t just the time that I have been tracking whether. When you just take raw temperature data, and take the average of that across the past few decades, you would find an average decline over the past eight decades. Commissar: Meanwhile daily temperatures can flactuate. Temperatures are always fluctuating. It so happens that when you look at average global temperatures this decade, The Century, as well as from the last century, you would see a downward trend since the peak in the 1930s. In fact, the hottest summer on record took place in the 1930s, not in the 1990s or any year that century or this one. It got so hot in 1936, that even the southern Canadians were suffering triple digit temperatures. Commissar: In fact wild fluctuations are part of the pattern of warming in some areas. Actually, wild temperature fluctuations are part of a mini Ice Age, as well as during glaciation periods. One reason for this is that the polar air mass has grown larger. As… Read more »

Ex-PH2

I’m curious about something. I saw this word: flactuate.

I’ve never seen that used before. Is it a new variant of flatulence that hasn’t entered the popular slang vocab just yet?
Or is it a reference to some sort of digestive upbubblr?
Or could it be that squidchipsquishblob has gone completely ’round the bend and left his marbles behind?

Just askin’.

SFC D

“Flactuate” is a fart that varies in pitch,timbre, and volume. It’s actually a compound word, derived from “flatulence” and “fluctuate”. As in: “Damn, did you hear that guy flactuate? It was positively melodious!”

11B-Mailclerk

He ain’t whistlin’ Dixie!

thebesig

Commissar: all the while GLOBAL AVERAGE temperatures trend higher. False. If you take average global temperatures, based on raw data, the long-term trend is a downward trend. Not an upward trend. In fact, I been tracking a couple websites that show global temperature events. Ever since I started tracking these websites, I’ve noticed that colder air masses have been advancing further south a lot earlier in the year, sticking around a lot longer, and have been pushing further south later during the spring. I’ve also noticed a downward trend with regards to temperatures. Commissar: Additionally, the higher average temperatures means more energy in our atmoshere leading to more severe and destructive storms… IN BOTH THE SUMMER AND THE WINTER. This stems from the fact that there is a larger temperature difference between two meeting air masses. Temperatures have been declining. Both the north, and the south poles, have been getting colder. Hence, the temperature differences between these air masses, and the ones that they displace as they transit towards the equator, gets larger. The larger the temperature differences, the more violent and destructive storms. I’ve been stating this simple fact over the past few years, and using it to accurately predict which way our winters were trend. I’ve been accurate every year. None of my predictions would’ve came to had average global temperatures the going up rather than down. Commissar: You all smugly act like you have some secret understanding of the climate that leads you all to ARROGANTLY deny the SETTLED science that global average temperatures are rising. First, you are projecting your own traits onto us. Second, again, I have been tracking global weather over the past 11 years. Not only have I been tracking this, I’ve been reading/studying climate related studies and articles. The cold hard facts do not support “man-made global warming”. Likewise, the cold hard facts do not support the argument that the world’s temperatures have been going up. Third, you have consistently refused to prove that this science is “settled”. The closest that those on your side of this argument could come, to this… Read more »

desert

All this glob all wurming is BULLSHYT! It was developed by the gore and the NWO to con people into letting them control all energy….then they would have the people by the gonads! They could control all heat and air in summer and winter and control the processing of food stuffs…all this other crap is smoke screen! imho

A Proud Infidel®™️

*YAWN*, you poodle turd-brained TARDOs have always screeched that Mankind only has about 5-10 years left until the next climactic apocalypse! When I was a kid in the 70’s it was the upcoming man made Ice Age brought on by sunlight being blocked by hydrocarbon emissions and in the mid to late eighties your crowd was saying that Earth would be largely uninhabitable by the year 2000 due to the loss of the Ozone Layer, deforestation, acid rain and climate change. Today in the Continental US we not only have cleaner water and air (except in California where neglect of the forests have resulted in mega-fires), but there is more forested acreage today in CONUS than there was in the 1920s and 30’s. Where do we hear about acid rain and Ozone Layer loss anymore? It’s truth, so sit and spin on it! If I were you, I’d demand a tuition refund from UC Berzerkely because what they did is little more than brainwash you with liberal crap!

A Proud Infidel®™️

Oh and P.S., the great big huge Zika Virus Apocalypse you were screeching and shitting yourself about never happened either.

Ex-PH2

Yeah, but, API, those migrants are carrying dengue fever and chikungunya as well. We should all be appalled… or something.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Fuck you and your commie/socialist/SJW bullshit, Commissar. Go spew your manifesto over at DU or the Daily Kos.

Cthulhu

I am willing to bet that the percentage of flat earther conspiracy theorists that frequent this board is much higher than you would find from a random sample of U.S. citizens, or even U.S. veterans.

There is a persistent and systemic, even pathological, obsession with creating your own reality on this blog.

Then several jump onto the comment to virtue signal how much they agree and are ideologically pure and loyal to the LIMITED ideological scope of the community here.

Anyone that disagrees becomes a chewtoy.

Perry Gaskill

Bingo. The use of the term “this board” is almost certain proof that Cthulhu is actually Commissar.

Welcome back, Lars. Are you still taking the same meds?

2/17 Air Cav

Whoa. Good catch, Perry. No wonder that MFer wasn’t responding to my comments. The POS. MFer needs his ass barred…yesterday.

thebesig

He wasn’t responding to mine either. Hammer him with the facts, and with an argument that he can’t withstand, and he’ll avoid you. Suspected him as Commissar as soon as I saw his Cthulhu posts. Others here had the same suspicions as well.

HMCS(FMF) ret

He’s getting pegged by Trigglypuff on Tuesdays and Saturdays…

2/17 Air Cav

Thanks for your valuable input and insight. You know we all take your commentary to heart. Many of us envy your facility for writing with such clarity and for, perhaps above all else, showing us the grave error of our ways. Yes, you are correct: I believe that at least 75% of us believe the earth to be flat. And nearly all of us do believe that reality is what we fashion it to be right here at TAH. You couldn’t be more right! There, feel good now? Does that make it all better? I hope so.

timactual

” I believe that at least 75% of us believe the earth to be flat.”

Wow, I am way out on the fringe. 98% of me believes the Earth is flat.

thebesig

His rant about flat earthers was nothing but a strawman.

Ex-PH2

Flat earthers? Where?

All the flat earthers I’ve ever run into were Gaia worshipers and ecohippies who think that humans should be wiped out. When asked if they included themselves in that ‘all humans wiped out’, they got mad at me.

The Earth rising over the horizon of the Moon made it quite clear to all doubters that the Earth is round and a little bulgy about the waistline. Then there was the Voyager shot of the Earth caught in a beam of sunlight, lite pale blue dot.

So who is a flat Earther here?

SFC D

“I reject your reality, and substitute my own.”

rgr769

That comment proves that Larsie knows he lives in an imaginary proggie parallel universe.

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He does, but I actually stole the quote from Mythbusters. It seemed appropriate.

SFC D

He does, but I actually stole the quote from Mythbusters. It seemed appropriate.

HMCS(FMF) ret

And that universe is known as “Bezerkeley”… where everything is fed to him via rectal tube.

Ex-PH2

Oh, come on. Lars has a brain made of non-Newtonian elements. That’s why it doesn’t work properly.

RGR 4-78

“Flat earthers”

I believe in the big blue marble, so I am 1 commenter you are wrong about.

USMCMSgt (Ret)

Lars likes to paint with a broad brush.

In his mind, anyone who disagrees with him is a Trump loving Nazi who believes the world is flat and deny global warming, and on and on and on…

Lars and his drive by posts are annoying.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Make that two commenters… and my proof – “The Big Blue Marble” as seen by the crew of Apollo 17:

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RGR 4-78

Absolutely Beautiful.

26Limabeans

Well, there you go again Nancy.
The lecture followed by the spanking.

The Other Whitey

So it is you, Commissar? I really didn’t think your existence was so pathetically meaningless that you would try to sneak and slither back into TAH after catching the banhammer. Seriously, I didn’t think that even you could be such a miserable, limp-dicked shitstain. Clearly I overestimated you, which is saying something.

MSG Eric

Yeah, those silly flat earthers. They should believe that human beings are the sole reason for climate change and that there are in fact 67 genders because to think otherwise is completely crazy!

Having seen the curvature of the earth on a plane going in various directions is enough for me to see the earth isn’t flat, but whatever.

I’d bet that the number of US Citizens and even US Veterans that are whiny liberal pussies who believe anything the DNC expects them to is pretty high. Though it seems only one or two actually post….

timactual

67? I beg to differ, sir. There cannot be 67 discrete genders. We are told by the SJW crowd that gender is a continuous spectrum of sexuality. Thus, by definition of continuous, there are an infinite number of genders.

ITS SCIENCE!

SFC D

And don’t forget, there are 57 states.

A Proud Infidel®™️

If I had a dollar for every gender, I’d have $2 and a fat handful of counterfeits!

MSG Eric

Damn, sorry. I haven’t been keeping up with my liberal talking point updates very well.

I’ll be back later after I go download and memorize them….

OWB

Blah, blah, blah.

NHSparky

STFU, Lars.

timactual

“I am willing to bet that the percentage of flat earther conspiracy theorists…”

Only if you have no sense of humor or irony.

“Anyone that disagrees becomes a chewtoy.”

A friend of my wife called that “putting on your poor me hat”. Enjoy your martyrdom.

A Proud Infidel®™️

*YAWN*, are you old enough to remember when Mount Pinatubo erupted in the early nineties? Many reputable Scientist estimated that eruption put more pollutants into the atmosphere than the entire Industrial Age all put together (Nitrates, Sulfates, Particulates,…) and we had colder winters for a few years afterward. What’s next, a Volcano Tax?

MSG Eric

If there’s a volcano tax, you can bet California has one and there aren’t even any active volcanoes there.

The Other Whitey

Mt Lassen is dormant and due. Mt Shasta supposedly still has an active magma chamber. The Mammoth Caldera still makes the needle shake now and then, and occasionally offgases.

Ret_25X

by “your own reality” you mean the one, empirically true reality?

You might want to acquaint yourself with that.

As for flat earthers, yawn. Attempts to associate those who do not agree with your feeble arguments are flat earthers, ergo, they can be dismissed by assertion.

Unfortunately, actual debate and scientific method do not work that way. But then, what can one expect from an NPC.

Same old tired socialist dialectic from a tired NPC mouthpiece.

Move along, you have been owned.

Go ahead, say it. Oraaaaaaaaaaaaange man baaaaaaaaaaaad.

2/17 Air Cav

Commissar used to have a thing about anonymity and calling those of us who don’t want his hate mail cowards. Has Cunthulu raised the anonymity question? If so, any scintilla of doubt is erased.

11B-Mailclerk

Didn’t that very item pop up recently? I remember some serious snark about a pseudonym scorning anonymity.

Are we officially at “sockpuppet in the wire” ?

2/17 Air Cav

Okay…yes. I seem to recall not Lars’/Cunthulu’s comment but that someone responded to it by laughing at the notion that someone using a screen name would take others to task for using one. Wish I could pinpoint it…

The Other Whitey

He made that accusation against me last week, Air Cav. While hiding behind that pro-nazi Cuntholio alias.

2/17 Air Cav

Thanks. Yep. If there was any doubt, it is altogether gone. Lars, by and other name, is still a blithering idiot commie bastard.

OWB

Hey! I missed the last TAH Flat Earther Society meeting, and nobody sent me the Cliff Notes of it. Does this mean I’ve been voted out and no longer get to contribute to the official contrived reality within which we must all operate?

Oh, well. It was fun while it lasted.

(Is the /sarc really necessary here? Well, there ya go just in case it’s needed.)

timactual

Judging by ctwhatsits comments, yes.

11B-Mailclerk

Folks, AW1Ed appears to have served us a cooked goose for thanksgiving.

Frankie Cee

Flat Earthers have members all around the globe. And Lars Cunthulu is not one of them.

Frankie Cee

Why isn’t he one of them, you ask? Well, they are an amiable bunch, weird as they may be, and they won’t let an empty headed, Socialist, bring his argumentative ass to their meetings.

OWB

If Lars et al is not one of them and I am not one of them, does that mean there is something the two of us have in common? See? Even the most unlikely of folks can find something the agree upon, given enough time and the will to find it.

btw, Frankie Cee, are you telling us that Flat Earthers is a real thing? Figured it was just another figment of lefty delusions. Maybe not? Whoever/whatever they are, they must run in very different circles from mine.

11B-Mailclerk

There was one in the news not long ago. He built a one man rocket to prove flatness. I seem to recall he got it off the ground, but landed somewhat badly.

Aha!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2018/03/27/flat-earth-rocket-man-finally-blasts-off-in-homemade-rocket-to-prove-earth-is-flat/

Ex-PH2

Gee, I was so busy this afternoon that I really missed the boat here. I have even more stuff to post that has to do with extinctions and glaciers and stuff like that there.

We’re coming to the end of this interglacial, so I thought it would be a good idea to explain something like that to the squishchipslushfunder.

MSG Eric

Well, after reading what thebesig posted as responses, I don’t think any of us need to respond. Wow.

The only way I can respond to all that is, “I like Turtles”.

Ex-PH2

Is that the chocolate-coated caramel and nuts Turtles, or the North American snapping turtle?

HMCS(FMF) ret

Ban his ass – Jonn did because he got tired of his bullshit and he tried to ID myself, EX-PH2 and a few others.

BAN. HIS. ASS.

FUCK. YOU. LARS. TAYLOR.

MSG Eric

You really need to work on your beating around the bush. I don’t think we fully understand how you feel here.

GDContractor

I’m old enough to remember when “The Population Bomb” was settled science. Luckily, cold fusion got us out of that one.

Speaking of settled science… This is a fascinating article and well worth the time to read it.

https://www.wired.com/2017/01/john-arnold-waging-war-on-bad-science/

Notice that the guy riding on the White Horse is not being paid by the government. Imagine that.

Ex-PH2

What? He doesn’t have his grubby paws in taxpayers’ pockets?

Impossible! He can’t be real! No ‘other people’s money’ means – well, geezo Pete, man, he might be producing facts… and facts are uncomfortable… and they give the grant grubbing chucks headaches… and, well, they’re alarming to the pseudo-science of CAGWER religion.