Veterans join together for gun control

Stars & Stripes reports that some veterans are “bucking their pro-gun stereotype” and joining with gun control fetishists to limit the ownership of firearms, you know, despite the oath they took to protect and defend the Constitution;
“We know how critical firearm safety and responsibility are, and we know what these weapons can do in the wrong hands,” said Navy veteran Sarah Dachos, who’s been involved in gun control advocacy for the past three years.
Anthony Swofford, a Marine Corps veteran and author of the 2003 memoir Jarhead, also got behind the push for gun reform.
“In the Marine Corps, we have an expression, ‘Every Marine a rifleman,’” he said. “We’re made to understand the impact these weapons have and the responsibility that comes with handling them. I think the civilian world could learn some important lessons from that military experience of training, safety and accountability — that’s part of the reason I felt compelled to lend my voice to this work.”
Now, Swofford, Dachos and other veterans have secured a platform in the national debate on gun reform. Everytown for Gun Safety, the country’s largest gun control advocacy organization, announced Wednesday that it created a veterans advisory council to lend support and advice.
I’m not surprised. VoteVets and Iraq Veterans Against the War were able to recruit veterans willing and able to “Qaddafi” their fellow veterans and stab us in the nalga. The gun fags don’t seem to be having trouble seeking out Blue Falcons who want to disarm us.
Part of the function of the veterans advisory council will be to provide testimony to Congress, weigh in on policy proposals and offer insight on firearms. For example, Everytown sought veterans’ advice in October when the nation’s attention turned to bump stocks after they were used in the deadly shooting at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas, McTighe said.
Yeah, just like ANSWER who found enough veterans to form their “March Forward” anti-war group. IVAW also testified to Congress. Mostly, the veterans of VoteVets, March Forward and IVAW only contributed ammunition to the Bush Derangement Syndrome crowd. The protest marches against the war had T-shirt-wearing veterans in the front row to give the movement the appearance of legitimacy, even though most of those veterans had never been to the war.
Scott Cooper, a retired Marine involved with the group Human Rights First, is part of the [gun control] advisory council. Cooper grew up in Wyoming, where he started hunting at 14, he said.
So what? The last time I checked, hunting has nothing to do with the Second Amendment.
Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists
Gun-control equivalent of skerry kerry sucking North Vietnamese cock in Paris. There will always be traitors and backstabbers in any crowd…
Very true. What “Everytown” and others fail to understand is that simply being a veteran or having served does not make one a firearms expert. To the contrary in fact. How many times have we seen Soldiers who had to have remedial training to simply be able to insert a magazine into their issue weapon? Hell, I’m a veteran. that doesn’t make me a firearms expert. I’m also a school trained and certified gunsmith and AR-15/M16/M4 armorer. I still don’t claim to be an expert.
Lesson #1; The pointy end of the bullet goes in first.
Then hand ’em a shot shell and watch the fun.
Don’t laugh. On my first boat, we were doing gun quals (M-16, .45, and 12-gauge.)
For the shotgun, we did a rapid load; drop a round in the open ejection port and rack the slide forward, then load the mag.
Well, we had a gent put his round in backwards. And SUCCESSFULLY racked the round all the way in.
Yeah. He was a big boy too. Even today I’m impressed he managed that.
Saw a guy do that at the range, too, while we were shooting for score. Redneck, gun owner, shoots all the time, and still loaded 4 shells into the mag tube of an 870 backwards. It was a real treat getting the rounds out, too.
Also was an armorer with the M16A2 and the M9; I was quite proficient (yeah, that asshole…) in the maintenance and knowledge of both. Only fired expert x2 in 7 years. I know enough to clear/make safe most any firearm I come across, but that’s about it. Probably couldn’t hit a barn if I was locked inside it.
(As far as armor room records go,”The Air Force lost WHAT!?”)
“Mod Squad”.
Funny shit right there.
Good Day to all.
In my somewhat limited experience in four infantry battalions and two Army Special Forces groups, the average soldier, even if a reasonably trained/experienced rifleman, is no skilled gunfighter. Most soldiers are about as proficient with firearms as your average cop. When I was a avid Cowboy Action shooter, one of our clubs had a shoot off every year with teams of police officers who were not all skilled action shooters. Our shooters beat them every year we did the event. Moreover, if history is any indicator, most of these ex-military anti-gun progtards were likely TOC-rats, Fobbits, or other forms of REMF.
video of skerry kerry:
Well heck! That was supposed to forward to:
https://youtu.be/-eks8LG72uo?t=22
“For 50¢ I’ll ….”
Dammit, I was saving that trailer for the WOT!
*kicks rock*
Got news for the little guy. Melissa McCarthy does have one to suck.
Do these sorry bastards remember their oath of allegiance? the part of defending the constitution? ALL OF IT including the 2nd amendment!
To paraphrase the late, great Red Foxx:
“Basta. All of ’em.”
“Recently, I looked to the NRA for leadership,” Neese said. “But what I heard from NRA leaders… instead of promoting solutions to gun violence, they drew greater divisions.” Neese is said to be a USMC Vet. Of course, we know that how? Anyway, the thing is, why would Neese look to the NRA for leadership in curbing gun violence? Why would expect he NRA to provide solutions to madmen shooting up schools? Yeah, this is just more bullshit with some Veterans surrendering themselves to be used as tools of the gun grabbers. Screw ’em.
These same guys hold Ford Motors responsible for vehicle safety in schools, right? And Chrysler is responsible for drunk drivers.
Uh-huh.
And spoons made Rosie O’Donnel fat. Pencils cause spelling errors.
“And Chrysler is responsible for drunk drivers.” Bingo.
“And spoons made Rosie O’Donnel fat.” Bango.
Bingo-Bango.
I daresay a group composed of non trigger pullers maybe with a couple of wannabe politicians, probably “never seen the elephant” in the defense of our nation but a bunch of former military endorsed by David Hogg. What could possibly go wrong! regards, Alemaster
What elephant?
Do you mean as in the republican elephant vs the democrat donkey?
Why haven’t they seen the elephant?
So confused….
“Never seen the elephant”
It’s an old-fashioned term, meaning those who have never experienced actual combat…
Why not the lion, or the wolf, or the snake. Hell, I would be more afraid of an spider than an elephant. They seem nice.
The elephant doesn’t come across as very dangerous animal.
A rampaging elephant can be a very dangerous animal. I’m sure the big-game hunters who reads TAH can confirm that…
Good point. I had not considered the possibility of a wounded elephant rampage.
Try a rampage by a pissed-off, territorial 12-ton beast with tusks that can run faster than you and doesn’t fear man. That’s the basic definition of “elephant.”
Almost an exact description of my ex-wife. well the weight is a little off and her tusks were dentures, but still….
You realize that somebody somewhere has saved this to pass off to your ex and you will soon be under the flowers in her back yard with that comment…
I can hear her trumpeting now, gotta run!!
𐤇𐤍𐤁𐤏𐤋 𐤁𐤓𐤒
Ha! I thought 𐤇𐤍𐤁𐤏𐤋 𐤁𐤓𐤒 was “You Loser!”
Had to google it.
Thanks, now I know.
Yef has a stuffed plush toy elephant in his barracks bag. Didn’t you guys know that? He takes it out a squeezes it and it makes a soothing squawk.
Tim had Dick Van Dyke in stitches! Then Vicki Lawrence blew them all away! What a laugh.
Sheesh … I’m sitting in my office with tears at the corners of my eyes. Thanks, Ex-PH2!
I miss that funny show!
Even Carol Burnett, the consummate professional, lost it. As easily as Harvey Koreman would get broken up, I can only imagine him in this skit.
Yef, 1SG’s Office RIGHT NOW, he KNOWS you’ve been huffing the floor wax yet again!
Oh, hell, just go read “Red Badge Of Courage”. Okay?
I’ve always been told that the phrase originally was “See the lion”, a reference to English gentlemen going on safari in Africa or as a reference to having met the King/Queen of England (the lion is the symbol of English noblity). Either way it meant being successful at something highly unusual and pretty terrifying.
After the unpleasntries in the 1770’s the phrase “See the elephant” started cropping up in the America’s as a replacement. I vaugley remember something about a circus being invovled and a broadsheet headline that coupled with a desire to carve out a national idenity sparked the change.
Starting with the Civil War the phrase was co-opted by both Union and Confederate soliders who would often write home about seeing the elephant, going off to see the elephant, or anxiety about how’d they’d act when they saw the elephant.
“See the elephant” went from referencing something unsualy and scary to “Seen the elephant” (grammar apparently wasn’t a strong suit of civil war soliders) as a reference to combat.
Source: My Grandmother who was a High School English and History teacher in the late 1940’s until the “horror” of the 60’s.
Very cool.
I quote from “Death in the Tall grass”
“The African elephant will grab you around the waist, bang you against the nearest solid object until you are dead, throw you to the ground and stomp you until your own mother can’t tell if you are being buried face up or face down.
I believe the term started during or shortly after the Civil War. It is in reference to the traveling circuses of the day. The circus would announce its presents by holding a parade though the town. The elephant was the biggest most exotic animal that the residence of a small town have ever seen and would always be at the end of the parade. Somewhat like Santa Claus at the end of Christmas parades. Saying that someone has “seen the elephant” came to mean that they have seen all that was to be seen. That is, that they have been it serious combat.
http://www.wordorigins.org/index.php/site/comments/elephant_to_see_the/
It refers to going elephant hunting in southwest Asia and Africa. In the early days, no one believed it unless someone brought home a trophy of some kind.
Yef, quit huffing carbonated water. Elephants can kill you if you piss them off.
Hippos kill 2,900 people per year in Africa:
https://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/stories/11-animals-more-likely-to-kill-you-than-sharks
Don’t screw with a hippo…
That’s why we need to close the hippo show loophole.
Many have seen the elephant but few have faced the tiger.
They used to “buck the tiger” when faro was popular.
Buck Owens not only faced the tiger, he had it by the tail.
It was plain to see.
What a bunch of retards.
I would love to see their ERBs.
Yef,
An ERB is not the be all, end all of a career. Nor is it a way to measure the character of a man.
Some of the people here may not have the bling that others have, but are more of a man before 5 am on Sunday than you will be in an entire year.
Do us all a favor and quit trying to get the dick measuring contests started. You WILL lose.
Oh, I am not trying to measure dicks. My dick is very small, which is why I married an skinny girl. I figured any girl over a 110 lbs would require additional skillz from my part with absorted adult toys to reach the big “O”.
But my wife says that size doesn’t matter, so I’m good.
I will never be mistaken for a black dude in the dark. That’s why I married an Asian chick: she’s easily impressed!
Don’t tell her I said that!
It can’t be as bad as mine. I had a girl laugh at me when I took my pants off. I was totally wasted, I had like a full 6-pack of Bud Light, so I was like “I know it’s impressive baby, but you can handle it”.
It disappeared in her hand. Then I passed out and I woke up alone in my bed.
She’s lying to you as well.
“Every Marine a rifleman”
Here we go again.
Exactly.
“Marine boot camp is like Infantry school.”
Then why do they have Infantry school for 03xx series?
couldn’t tell you. But everyone in the Corps currently goes to ITS/ITR after they complete boot camp, and that every Marine is a rifleman bit refers specifically to the fact that every Marine is required to qualify with the rifle annually.
Per Table G-1, AR 350-1, active component soldiers assigned to units are required to qualify semi-annually on their assigned weapon. (USAR and ARNG unit personnel must qualify annually.) For most everyone in the Army other than Field Grade officers, that means qualifying with an M-16/M-4.
By your rationale, it seems to me that means every soldier is a rifleman too. (smile)
‘Every Marine a Rifleman’ refers to considerably more Marine Corps training than simply annual rifle qualification. Please see the following:
Marine Combat Training Battalion
School of Infantry – East
Camp Geiger, NC
https://www.trngcmd.marines.mil/Units/South-Atlantic/SOI-E/Units/Marine-Combat-Training-Battalion/
‘Every Marine, regardless of his military occupation, is trained as a Rifleman. This concept has been around since the Marine Corps inception in 1775, when every man who volunteered was required to bring his own musket.
In the early 1900s, as the Marine Corps grew and additional military occupations were created, the Commandant, General John A. Lejeune, ensured that every Marine, regardless of his Military Occupational Specialty (MOS), received marksmanship training.
During the Korean War, the Marine Corps was the only service to create rifle companies entirely from cooks, drivers, and other non-infantry Marines. From this war, the proverbial saying, Every Marine a Rifleman was born.
In the nineteen eighties, the Commandant, General Al Gray, recognized the need to train all Marines in more than just basic marksmanship, but in modern-day combat skills. The School of Infantry was assigned to conduct this training known as Common Skills because it is common to every Marine. These common skills allow every Marine, regardless of MOS, to act as Rifleman when called upon.’
Good propaganda. As I have said before, the Marines have the best PR team ever.
Or are you really going to tell me that a cook performs as well as an infantryman in combat?
Let’s face it, the Marines have the same shit we got in the Army between grunts and pogs. It is a friendly competition, and we don’t tell to civilians that give shit to each other, but here in TAH were we have all seen the elephant, I am not going to swallow that piece of advertisement.
Wassamatter Yef…a A Marine break a promise not to come in your mouth or what?
You mouth off like the infantry version of a crossfitter.
OK that’s some funny shit right there!
So if a vegan, crossfitter Navy fighter jock walks into a bar, which does he brag about first?
His gi-normous watch, of course.
OH, SNAP!!!
If Marines have such great PR, then why do we have so many more fake Navy SEALs?
Took you guys long enough to do that. Seems to me I remember reading about that happening a number of times ad hoc during the Battle of the Bulge. And maybe a few other battles in World War II’s ETO. Not many Marines involved in the ETO as I recall. (smile)
Seriously, I get it that the USMC is proud of that “every Marine a rifleman” bit. You have a right to be. But when the SHTF badly enough on the ground, everyone in uniform (with the possible exception of medics/corpsmen) immediately becomes infantry. That’s hardly unique to the USMC; it’s true in every service.
Not saying that it’s ‘unique’ to the USMC, Hondo. I know that it’s not.
I’m just professionally/personally tired of some of the posters here on TAH who continually try to deny that all Marines are trained as Riflemen before they move on to their follow-on MOS schools. Facts are facts; all Marines receive that training, whether anyone here likes it or not.
The information regarding training at the USMC School of Infantry – East website link that I provided above is very straightforward. Not sure why it’s so difficult for some here to comprehend.
So…
Marine Private = Army Staff Sergeant. Got it.
And when was the last time non-infantry Marines have had to get off their arses and clear a contested objective? How many generations ago?
Yef! Seriously, just quit taking over every conversation about something else worthwhile with this infantile garbage about Marines. It just makes you look stupid.
You wanna tangle with some of my family members, some of whom were US Army Infantry while others were US Marines assigned to other duty positions? Like my cousin who flew a rather important Marine desk CONUS but cleared a couple of interesting objectives in Iraq during three tours there, each tour in a different job, none of which were “Infantry.”
You are ignorant by your own insistence, Yef. This has been explained to you many times, and quite frankly, some of us are tired of the repetition.
I have taken non-infantry guys in missions with me. They provide valuable skills not organic to an infantry platoon. We always keep them as safe a possible and make sure that if they have to shoot, they shoot in the right direction.
Yes, we have to babysit them. And them when we come back into the wire they can’t stop talking of how high speed the mission was.
Pleez.
Yeah, we all know how special you are, Yef. But my cuz would hardly need your babysitting skills. He was the one leading the charge, over and over again.
So, a non-infantry guy was in charge of an infantry platoon?
What? Are you sure?
I have never seen that. Other than in movies and poser fantasies.
Yeah, that must have been it – a movie. Uh-huh.
Speaking of posers, are you now claiming to be a US Marine, Yef? And why are you ascribing a platoon to this?
September 2012.
Camp Bastion / Afghanistan
Mechanics from VMM-161 fought and repulsed the Taliban attack with their British RAF counterparts.
Pilots and mechanics from VMA-211 also fought in that firefight. The CO of that squadron was killed.
Excellent.
That’s the right way to use augmentation.
In a static defensive position.
Except they were mutually supported by the Brits, and not augments. They defended the base.
And then there’s this additional uncomfortable fact for those who still don’t want to accept that every Marine is first trained as a Rifleman, regardless of follow-on specific MOS training.
http://www.afcent.af.mil/Units/455th-Air-Expeditionary-Wing/News/Display/Article/273979/camp-mccools-brief-impact/
May 2010.
Bagram Air Base / Afghanistan
‘[…]
Camp McCool became a significant part of Bagram history when insurgents attacked the base in May 2010, attempting to invade by entering the base through the camp. The Marines of “VMAQ-2” repelled the attack, with the ensuing firefight resulting in two Marines being wounded. All of the insurgents who attempted to breach the camp were killed.
[…].’
* For those unfamiliar with Marine Corps Aviation, VMAQ-2 is a Marine Tactical Electronic Warfare Squadron that flies EA-6B Prowlers.
Furthermore, Mick, if and when the need requires to send your non-infantry guys into the grinder, what part of the battlefield do you think the will be sent into? The decisive point of contact with the enemy or the quiet sector to pull security to free the infantry to move into contact?
Uh, no. Just no.
Thank god for the infantry Yef.
Us signal types could not have won the war without you.
You can talk about us, but you can’t talk without us!
Without commo, all you got is a rolling 60 ton paperweight.
Former 31E, Field Radio Repair
I’m waiting for one of these folks to say “I carried an AR-15 in combat and it has no place on the streets”.
Actually; I was thinking the same thing. It’s not “if”, but “when” they throw that out there. Buncha pussies that have absolutely no fucking clue what the subject matter is, i.e. blame the tool not the one using it. Do we blame the car or the drunk driver? Do we blame the rapist or just his d**k? Stoopid assholes.
More likely would be, “I almost qualified with an M-16 in boot camp, but was then sent to be a clerk/typist. They have no business on the streets anyway.”
Wait, I swear one of them did say that.
Fair disclosure; My M16A1 in basic training (1987) was marked AR15/M16 MOD on the magazine well. Just above GENERAL MOTORS/HYDRAMATIC DIVISION.
My M14 in Basic was made by Harrington and Richardson. The barrel turned white and developed a bulge just after the fore stock. Lucky I noticed it.
Fucking Fudd retards. “I supoaht the Second Amendwent, but….”
When you wear a man scarf as a civilian (I’m not talking about a shemagh) you should have your man card revoked and have your discharge downgraded to OTH.
I hunt only with my AR-15. It’s simply the most comfy for me.
But but but it’s an assault weapon! You can’t hunt with it!
Mine has assaulted the hell out of a few coyotes and a couple javalina.
Exactly. I tried to get the whitetail to come lay down under my gambrel but it wouldn’t listen. So I have to assault them.
Same here, Old Manchu. There are at least 6 coyotes and numerous ground hogs & skunks that have succumbed to rounds from my AR.
Are those slobs in that photo supposed to represent people like me?
Just asking, because they don’t and they do NOT have my permission to speak for me.
They’re looking for cash and those 15 minutes of fame and possibly more cash and notoriety and political seats.
Chinge todos ellos.
And a free starbucks.
That, too.
Until I read the article, I thought this was the album picture for a really bad local band…
Now Im just disgusted with these “look at me” pc, sparklepony wannabe’s.
I think we are supposed to fall prostrate at their feet with gratitude that they are willing to represent us poor, deprived, depraved vets lacking the intellect to formulate our own response to whatever it is that they are incensed about this week. Because, ya know, they are so, like, special. And we are not.
In other words, we should sit back, shut up, and let their puppet masters tell us what is good for us.
Way to take a big ol’ steamy one all over your oaths, f**kers!
I just don’t get the fascination with restrictions on guns. How do they propose to make it more restrictive yet increase safety or security?
I tell you one thing though, if they get what they want I want a six-figure salary to clean up the mess AND a hand written apology.
I see we have some new members of the Blue Falcon Club…step right in folks; Ted Lieu will show you around.
Oathbreakers gonna break oaths, I guess.
I saw a website a while back where a DS/DS Marine vet does a page-by-page deconstruction of “Jarhead,” pointing out lie after lie in Swofford’s book, and how Swofford brags about being a thief, liar, and buddy-fucker in the first ten pages. Such a credible frontman they picked out!
A gunnery sergeant in my old squadron had been, in his first enlistment, a scout sniper in a STA platoon in Desert Storm. He didn’t know Swofford personally, but knew people who did, and let’s just say he had nothing positive to say about the guy.
Well, it can’t be worse than The Hurt Locker, can it?
From the TVTropes page on “The Hurt Locker” (because I get bored sometimes):
“Critics call it a thoroughly-realistic depiction of the Iraq War. Iraq War veterans call it absurdly unrealistic. Make of that what you will.”
I’ve suffered through both. Being EOD, I say the hurt locker is worse but I am biased. Plus, I know the fat fuck, scumbag, piece of shit that was the technical advisor. The dumbass movie, Jarhead, was very shitty also. I’m sure the Marines view it much like EOD Techs view the other shit show. I’m going to have to ask some Marine Techs which of the two makes them twitch worse.
As boring as Jarhead was Id give it the realism nod. It was better than the left wing fantasy of what Iraq was like Hurtlocker.
So pulling on a wire connected to multiple IED’s laid in a star pattern is NOT a recommended course of action? Asking for a friend…
It’s a highly classified render safe procedure.
I was excited when I heard they were making an EOD movie, until I saw it.
That depends. Are you trained on SAS 7.62BMG sniper rifles? It is all in the same school in case you have to rescue an SAS team while wandering in country in your single unarmored HMMVW.
But hey in 2004 you could upload videos of yourself playing XBox 360 to You Tube while sitting around in your ACU’s during down time.
So just cut that primacord and everything will be A-Ok.
Smile for the Academy Award for a movie that almost nobody went to see and everybody that sat through it didn’t like it.
Anthony Swofford. Again.
Don’t be dropping that name around the Marines of 2/7… when I was with them in the mid-90’s, whenever his name came up words like “pussy” were used to describe him.
Several of his buddies from 2/7 wrote reviews about his book on Amazon. None of them were favorable and all of them question the veracity of his story. Seems they didn’t remember it like he did.
I’m guessing that they get their cash from a couple of people… Soros and Bloomberg… who love backing “groups” like them.
You mean the Billionaires with their own private armed security forces who say we shouldn’t protect ourselves?
That would be them.
You could put Alyssa Milano in that group – was recently at a rally for gun control with armed security protecting her…
Sadly, every generation has its sell-outs and useful idiots.
Anything to let people know you’re as phony as a 4-dollar bill, right?
OK so, out of all the folks that have served over the last what 20 years or some such, they found 5 dick beaters that want to self fellate over guns?
BFD.
If you look hard enough in any group of people, you’ll find those that agree with your point of view.
Or those willing to debase themselves to feel self-important.
The photo looks like a hipster grunge band with the lead bass player’s dad that drove them to an alley in downtown Chicago.
Just after the album photo was taken, they were wiped out by a rival boy band in a drive-by.
The photo is included in the upcoming post-mortem album No. 24 from Tupac
The band’s only hit, the eponymous “Blue Falcons” soared to number 891 on Billboard’s Top 900 Hits.
E4 and AW1Ed,
You guys read my mind!
Very keen observation, sir! I’m still laughing my ass off!
What band was this?
The Gunks?
Should that read ‘ “Veterans” join together…’? Or perhaps a few of these lefty groups have learned to vet their “veterans” better than they have in the past.
On the other hand, it’s easier to run some true believers through a military enlistment to gain credible malcontents. Not as if it hasn’t been successfully done before.
(A few of us will always believe that sKerry was one of those. You could almost hear him muttering under his breath that actually going to the Viet of the Nam was not part of the deal he’d signed up for when he volunteered for Swift Boat duty. Too bad their mission changed after he obligated himself and was in training.)
“Should that read ‘ “Veterans” join together…’?”
I would go with “Less than half a dozen self-righteous douchebags, at least one of whom is a documented liar, all of whom were despised by their fellow servicemen during their brief time in the military due to their Blue Falconry and their insistence on being That Guy, latch onto an unpopular leftist cause for promises of fame and money.”
How’s that?
I would have gone with REMF Pogues whore for attention.
Hey! Being a REMF or semi-REMF hardly excuses dishonorable behavior, or even suggests it.
Just call them coners.
They’ll be insulted but won’t even know it.
Jeez they look like audition rejects from an old episode of “The Mod Squad”, WANNABES that the left will use to replace that bony eared assfish named David Hogg because they obviously think they’ve used him up and will soon throw him away in the same dumpster they threw the likes of Cindy Sheehag and Bradley manning into.
PI you just beat me to the MOD SQUAD reference…….where’s Link?
And we are old…….
He’s right there in front of you with the “fro”….he just had a sex change to keep up with the times.
I recently sent my Dad a picture of William Baldwin in “Backdraft” with the caption “You know you’re old when you realize Brian McCaffery was eligible for retirement three years ago!”
TOW; My old Dept had a basement job house fire and a knucklehead from my old Engine co. decided to freelance since the members were standing by so he broke the basement window with a halligan tool which caused a backdraft that lifted part of the house and fell on the Halligan tool pinning it to the foundation and at the same time, one of the truckees or nozzleman whom was decending the cellar stairs was blown up the stairs and landed outside on his SCBA.
Not a common thing out my way, California lightweight construction and all that. Most buildings here will collapse long before a backdraft condition sets up. I have not seen one.
I did see an idiot cause a living room to flashover in his face once. Relief truckie, i.e. spends one day a week on the truck, as opposed to his whole shift, so of course he’s a Greek Olympian among truck gods—just ask him!—who loved to talk all kinds of shit to me because I wasn’t one of the “cool kids.” We’re on a structure fire, I’m on the nozzle, BA, full gear, masked up, and have been instructed to wait for the Truck to open the door. The place is well-involved, heavy smoke showing from the eaves, doors, and windows, with lots of radiant heat coming through the bay window next to the front door. Here comes Dipshit with his coat unbuttoned, no gloves, mask, or flash hood, looking at me like he’s gonna “show me how it’s done,” or some shit. Unfriendly words are exchanged*. He’s got the irons in his hand, but does he use them, or even get his PPE on properly? Nope, Dipshit walks up to the door and mule-kicks it off the hinges. Air is introduced, room flashes over, lots of fire comes rolling out of the door, Dipshit drops flat and speed-crawls across the lawn, crying about how hot it is. I say, “No shit, dumbass! I could’ve told ya that was gonna happen!”
* I may have said something to the effect of, “Seriously, your girlfriend is not watching, you fucking jackass!” Only with a bit more profanity. Or a lot more. And possibly some accusations of homosexuality, incest, and/or bestiality thrown in for good measure. I had had enough of that fucking asswipe months earlier.
If that dumpster was placed on the sidewalk below Manning’s apartment, do you think he would make it?
No. He/She/It/ShIt doesn’t have the balls to go “take the next step”.
Much like the rumor I heard that B. Manning called for a Priest who showed up at the top of the building and as soon as he saw Manning he pulled out a starter pistol and said “On your mark, get set…” and Manning wussed out yet again.
Why would Pops (background right) shred the precious dignity his advanced years gave him by posing with these punks? Pops, you’re just a tool…
Agreed, Infidel. It’s like looking at central casting for any cop show from the late 60’s through the mid 70’s.
I don’t know what to say. Wait a minute. Yes I do.
Queers.
Queefs to be precise
I like the hood-up with arms across chest look on that one guy. He bad. Gave me a laugh, although I don’t think that’s the reaction he sought.
The new Mod Squad?
1st thing that came to mind
Set an angry skunk loose on him and see what happens.
The poor skunk would get high off their fumes
So, from left to right, you have what appears to be an angsty teenager, Angela Davis, Yoko Ono with a dick, the old guy from the movie Up, and a blonde lady who feasibly could have worked as an AS-1 somewhere.
Hardcore killers who totally represent military voices that I’ll ever care about. For sure.
I would love to peruse the DD-214’s and arrest records with mug shots.
I think July is admin donation time so maybe a special request with a few Shekel might make it happen.
I’m a Marine and grew up in Wyoming. On behalf of both groups….fuck Scott Cooper.
I’m Army and grew up in Wyoming. Scott Cooper can go fuck himself.
Where in WY, Mick?
Rock Springs. The armpit of the state.
You have my sympathies. Grew up in Alta. Awesome place to grow up but it’s becoming West Jackson.
Could be worse.
At least there’s some scenery in Rock Springs. I lived in Green River and Gillette as a kid.
Best thing to come out of Gillette? I-90.
Green River and Rock Springs are basically sisters. I’d say Gillette is a fair step up from RS these days.
No pic like this is complete without someone sporting a “Kap” haircut.
Third guy from the left sporting a boa.
Any guess to the MOS?
Gymnasium Towel Technician?
Hopefully not anything in my beloved Signal Corps. Admin or supply…….
92S
https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/administrative-support/shower-laundry-and-clothing-repair-specialist.html
Boy, if that commercial came out today the protests would never end. Except for the one Chinese guy whose parents owned a dry cleaners that put him through college.
I know what you mean but don’t think Asians protest too much…they work hard and succeed…it’s the other “people of color” who can’t do shit that bitch and moan
And get on the roof to protect what they have. It’s the little white liberals we have to look out for.
Asians don’t waste time bitching. One reason is they’re busy working like hell to make an honest living and the other is they’re not a bunch of perpetually offended wusses!
“Receive bulk, individual, or organizational laundry”
I’ll bet that “individual” laundry is the selling point.
Evidently Bob (master)Bateman wasn’t the only member of the Army to specialize in licking scrotum.
Laundry and Bath Technician?
I’m thinking that and/or Prostate Relief Specialist
I can guarantee that I’ve spent more time in uniform and carrying a weapon than any of them. If someone were to ask me about my expertise in bump stocks, I’d have to tell them that I have no idea because I was never issued one and never installed one on any of my personal weapons. That should have been their answer to the gun grabbers. I guess that that won’t get you on in the papers, though.
I am willing to bet I spent more time in uniform than all of them put together. How come nobody invited me to their advisory panel? I would be more than happy to share bucketloads of Truth. And what do Navy vets know about guns anyway? I believe 80% of the Navy never even picks up a rifle after boot camp.
Hack Stone works with a retired Seabee, and he said they never had rifles while going through Basic Training at Great Lakes. If you never touch a firearm while serving, how are you considered to be in the Armed Forces?
Whaaa-aaat? I re4ad that and started googling and, evidently, what I thought happened in all services just doesn’t. I thought everyone qualified on the range with a rifle, maybe chucked a grenade, and possibly plinked a target or two with a sidearm. So, let’s hear it from the water people, including Coasties. The AF is welcome to chime in with what they qualify with. I had no idea all these years.
It’s because the Navy has bigger guns than the other services. We don’t need no individual shooting quals.
When I joined the Army the Navy told me they had 16 inches and it took a whole crew of men to handle it. A few years ago I had to look if only out of sheer curiosity. It turns out they only have a 5 inches.
Oh, no. Those 5 inches are for practice only. The 16 inchers are what the Navy uses when they mean business!
Iowa BB-61’s 16 inchers at work
I guess there’s a reason why 2 miles is considered the Minimum Safe Distance when calling for 16 inch Naval Gun Fire.
Battleships. For when you REALLY want to fuck somebody up!
Firearms instruction in boot camp? Not in the 1960s, except maybe the corpsmen going to Vietnam. There was info in the Bluejackets Manual about using a rifle, but that’s all.
I see people now who have the ribbons for it, but that means they qualified elsewhere, not at Great Lakes. I doubt the base has a shooting range at all, or ever had one. And I have no idea where the Marines get in their range time. Probably at local shooting ranges if one will rent guns to them.
EX-PH2; Great lakes Boot camp in 1963 had us shooting 22 rifles indoors and M-1 Garands out doors I had pharangitis and running a high temp and bedridden in the infirmery so I missed the out door training. I checked out my class 475 yearbook and there were the pictures in black and white.
I was at Bainbridge 1967. Probably never showed up where I was.
I do see women now with the shooting ribbons, so something has changed.
San Diego bootcamp 1971, we spent one day “snapping in” learning different firing positions and 2 days at the range with M-1’s and .45’s. A few guys even shot expert.
Later on the boats we would go to the range occasionally. On the Quillback(SS424) we decommissioned it, so a few weeks prior to that we sailed out into the Gulf of Mexico, had a cookout on the deck and shot off ALL of the small arms. That was fun.
Back in boot camp in ’65, we went to the rifle range out at Pendleton to qualify. And you better damn well qualify! The first day of qualifying there were about 15 who did not qualify. I remember all of them being P T’d like hell in a small sand trap about 15′ by 15′. About 8:00 that evening they threw one apple to the bunch of them and told them every one of them better get a bite, and that was their meal for the evening. Did not matter what you MOS was, you best qualify.
IVAW = Losers.
Cool fro, though.
“Progun stereotype”??? It’s not a stereotype, it’s just simple fact. We, all of us, took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. I don’t care if you choose not to own a firearm. But don’t you dare presume to tell me what’s good for me.
Well that group looks like they’re just loads of fun to hang out with.
They are simply loads..more succinct
I’d bet they all reek of Mary Jane’s perfume.
Holy shit, I didn’t know Collin kappernik was a veteran. What a bunch of retards.
Pro-gun stereotype?
No, THEY are the stereotype. Every note hit, every slacker clue posted, every trigger word embedded in the vocabulary – it’s all there, along with the hipster clothing. I’d bet a ham sandwich that they subscribe to the Religion of Global Warming Orthodoxy, too, and that they are all vegans who groove on soy lattes.
They have the Right to hold and promote any fuckwitted opinion they want, of course.
And I have the Right to tell their traitorous, Oath-breaking, fuckless-wonder selves to self-fornicate with an acid-soaked cactus.
This bullshit again. They can talk about “gun control” and more regulations and all the nonsense they want, but this ultimately isn’t a gun issue. Cain killed Abel with a rock.
Sad to see, however, that these former servicemen/women are willing to pander like this for a spot in the press.
Not busting on our Navy brother’s and sisters, but how familiar would a female Sailor be as to handling firearms?
Or a male. I read that Coasties get no range time at all and that instruction is by PP. No joke.
Depends. There are female Gunners Mates and Masters-At-Arms.
Other than that, about zip point shit.
Even my handling on the boats was limited to annual quals and security/repel boarders drills every month or two.
On shore duty? In recruiting? In California? Bitch, please.
When I was in, as a Petty Officer of the watch we carried a 45. I qualified with that and a M-14 for security alert teams. Nothing like when I was in the Army though.
They look like they could get their asses kicked by a single US Air Force Supply Clerk fresh out of Training.
I think Yef could take ’em down by boring them to death.
At least in my humble experience in the days of Jimmeh and Ronnie, not all that many got decent range time with their service weapon and unless you went ‘way out of your way on your own, none on any non-service armament. I would bet cash green money none of these assholes have ever seen a bump stock in use, and had never heard of one prior to Paddock’s problem night.
I think that yellow deep fat fryer reclamation barrel on the right is the leader…certainly more credibility
Putrid Portland tried to push a bill through in Salem which would guarantee gun control. County sheriffs found out about and stated they would not enforce citing 2nd.
ALL but Multnomah (ie Portland) and Lane (dizzy Eugene)
The bill failed even before it could get to the floor.
Now it is being circulated in a petition so it will put on the ballot in fall. Little girl Katie governor is pushing hard for it to pass. I am certain it will because greatest % of voters in Orygun are dimwits located in Multnomah Co. The remaining part of the state is primarily rural.
AND the sheriffs who stated they would not enforce?
None were recalled. The two morons who refused support rest of sheriffs?…….they were too busy ‘upholding the law’
ie COWARDS
ie cowards
Someone needs to post that pic on 4Chan with the, “Name Our Band” caption.
Here’s my entry for the band name. “Pee Wee Herman and The Kinda Bad Ass Sweet Movie Jerkoffs”
“The Queefs”
They make a big production out of this, but none of them says boo about the suicides or the rate of Veteran homelessness throughout the country. A collective group of talking heads that say zilch.
Anthony Swofford, you are a disgrace to every Marine who ever served. Thank God I did not have to put up with a pussy like you in RVN. Why didn’t you just run North like every other coward and hide until the war ended? Losers like you created the purpose of “Fragging”, plain and simple. Gun control my ass. Act like a Marine, act like a man, in spite of all of it being part of your Thespian behavior. M Fckr, I hope we meet one day in person so I can really tell you how I feel. Regardless of the profanity, insults, and general dislike shown on T A H, ALL of it is complimentary to the dislikes of you. Hang your head in shame you worthless attention whore who would sellout for a little publicity. So you made a few bucks with a movie. Who the fuck does that make you? Louis B Mayer? According to your own former Marine acquaintances, you are one dishonest character. That says a LOT from other Marines whom had the displeasure of serving at the same time you did. After this little rant, you are unlikely to have the balls to show up at ANY Company or even Battalion reunion. You are a delusional POS in every possible way imaginable. It just seems impossible to believe that you hold your candy ass views after having once been a Marine. Your shit is raggedy Jack…to the point that you even mentioning the United States Marine Corps is offensive. Great respect for those who made the ultimate sacrifice to allow a cunt like you to think you know what is best for ANYONE. Get a life you sonofabitch. Your mama ought to wish you had been a miscarriage. Keep the fuck off the streets where former Marines tend to walk tall. You are a mental case who needs help. Your opinion means less to me than dehydrated dog shit sold to those who seek protection from kittens.
I had to carry an M-1 Carbine as a member of the boarding/salvage party. Others carried Thompson Sub Guns. I asked the person in charge when and if I had to use the weapon, and he simply said to use it if anyone on the ship gave you a ration of shit. No video or cell phone cameras in those days.
Anthony Swofford…you are the very reason the term “Fragging” was created in RVN. Your mama surely must wish you had been a messy miscarriage. Other Marines who served when you did call you a liar. THAT pretty much sums it up you attention whore. Thanks for all the disrespect you show to those who never made it back alive from so many wars. Your opinion is as valuable as a can of dehydrated dog turds sold to people afraid of kittens. You are a disgrace to every United States Marine Corps member, past and present. Obviously you will never have the balls to show up at any Company or Battalion reunion. I’d bet you sleep at night with a toy poodle next to you to protect you from any home invaders. Bet you have an inflatable party doll without tits or vagina. You know what will make so many of us happy? To read one day where you are attacked and ass raped by thieves because your poodle did not protect you. But you know what’s best for everyone don’t you? If you ever see a group of Marines walking tall in your direction, slither to the other side of the street. I’m just pleased as hell I never had to deal with any pussy like you in RVN. So when are you going to become a Marine Manning? You’re halfway there..don’t quit now.
LOL! Pure poetry there Jarhead. 2 thumbs up!
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Geeze Us Krist!
Looks like the cast to a new exciting TV drama on ABC (that is replacing Roseann) entitled “The Scary Black Gun Squad of Portlanida.”
Wow, M 1 carbines, Garands, 1911’s and Tommy Guns are still in use on Navy ships?
Is the Navy still fighting WW 2?
I love that those antique weapons are still fighting America’s enemies.
I used my M 1 carbine as a first gun when each of my kids turned 10.
Soft shooting, lightweight, handy and fun!
I will probably use the CZ Scorpion to teach my grandchildren.
Even shorter, lighter and more fun!
It bumpfires fine with just a finger, so these veterans will have a heart attack when they see my kids blasting away rapid fire.
Docduracoat; We had the above small arms back in 1963 when I joined the Navy. The change came later on after I got out.
This is just the latest iteration of the “Veterans for Peace”, the anti-American Communist front formed in the 80s. The neo-Commies always like to hide behind Veterans status as they advocate for anti-American ideologies.