Still think they support the troops?

| February 7, 2009

The People’s Worker World recounts some testimony from some anti-war dorks speaking in support of the Maoist-founded organization that calls itself Military Families Speak Out. here’s screen shot of the page instead of a link;

The testimony does nothing but impugn the character of people who join the US military;

Eugene Cherry joined the army at the age of 19 in the hopes of getting money for college. Despite being a good student, he found his options in his impoverished south side neighborhood limited. “I thought the military would be my ticket out, but I found an organization based on racism, sexism and misogyny” he testified before the assembled audience. Later he spoke of “[a] culture of violence and racism” that the military promotes within its ranks. These pressures proved to be too much for Sherry. He deserted for 16 months after being refused mental health support by the army. “I found myself fighting and oppressing a group of people in the name of the war on terror” concluded his remarks to the gathering.

The plight of women in the armed forces proved to be a recurring theme. Patricia McCann, a National Guardsman deployed in 2003, noted during her testimony that instances of sexual assault and sexual harassment within the armed forces have risen but court-martials for these crimes have declined. Another veteran (and current Chicago police officer), Lisa Zepeda, added that victims of assault have no outside authority they can report assaults to; a victim must go through her immediate superior within her unit.

Here’s Cherry from Courage to Resist;

Here’s McCann (although this profile says she’s an IVAW member, there’s no profile at IVAW in that name)

I didn’t put up any profile about Zepeda because despite her toxic charges againt commanders, she’s still a cop who deserves a measure of anonymity.

All of their stories throw fingers directly at the troops. All of them call all of our troops racist, sexist and oppressors. They couch their accusations in terms like “institutional” and “organizational” but those institutions and organizations are run by people – the troops.

But really selfish? Is the story of Katy Zatsick who blames her divorce on the military when her son was injured in Iraq. And biggest gullible moron?

Randi Scheurer had two children in the military. Soon after her son was deployed, he called imploring her to purchase a new flack jacket for him. The army had issued him a Vietnam-era jacket that was woefully inadequate for the threats he faced in Iraq. During his second deployment, he again implored his mother to privately purchase equipment that had been stolen from him and that the Army refused to replace. She finally purchased the needed equipment because the Army would not.

Yeah, Vietnam-era flak vests were all out of the inventory by the mid-80s. TSO has countered that argument here countless times – it was one of the ignorant commercials that VoteVets ran a few years back and it’s been thoroughly discredited. He might have had a kevlar vest from the 80s design – but that was two decades after Vietnam. And the Army is not in the habit of denying the replacement of equipment the troops need. His commander might have made him pay for the equipment, but he wouldn’t have refused to give it to a troop if he needed it to do his job. I noticed she didn’t name the items she replaced.

But that kind of stuff has become part of the narrative and generally accepted by the ignorant masses. So these clowns, liars and dolts at Military Families Speak Out are just reinforcing the faerie tales. Oh, and they’re in DC this weekend “educating” people about their version of the war.

Ed. Note: I made the mistake of claiming that IAVA made the ads about the flak vests. Paul Reickhoff of IAVA was kind enough to point out the error and I’ve corrected it. When I mistakes I admit it.

Category: Antiwar crowd, Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, Iraq Veterans Against the War, Liberals suck, Phony soldiers

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defendUSA

Cherry. Cherry. Cherry.
Anybody else getting that this guy was a fucking pussy? Yes, indeed, it’s true. We didn’t need assholes like him when I was in and we certainly don’t need ’em now.

airborne injun

Everybody is a f…ing victim!!! I can see mom getting conned by her noload son, she just doesnt know better. As for that douche bag cherry and his ilk, they are just a bunch of whiney assed puke suckers who are part of the liberal “Im a fucking scumbag victim…Give me some fucking attention know or else” FAD! None of these assholes know shit about racism or discrimination,and I serousy doubt that any of these “comrades” would trade places with me or others who had the childhoods that we had! The U.S. Military was a God send to me and so many other people of all sorts of back grounds.Other than a few ignorant pricks that can be found anywhere it was a great experiance and a true family.If not for this military they hate so much, I’m sure I would be dead or in prison right now!!! God bless our country,our military,our veterans, and patriots! P.S. so fucking sorry for the rant…Thanks for letting me use your soapbox guys!

Mia

“Eugene Cherry joined the army at the age of 19 in the hopes of getting money for college.”

If he wanted money for college, why didn’t he work his way through flipping burgers or bussing tables like everyone else? Probably because he’s lazy. My nephew always wanted to join the Army after he graduated high school, but let his fiance and some of our stupid family members talk him out of it. At 20, he decided to join. He’s serving in Iraq. They found yet another mass grave with about 80 bodies of men, women and children in it. He’s been shot at and bombed and has shrapnel in his legs. He still loves what he does. The people on that web site just thought they would get *free* money for college and be able to live off the government without sacrificing anything. My nephew has seen his buddies die. He already has a purple heart. Those are the type of soldiers we need to protect America. We don’t need losers like those people mentioned in the article. We’re better off without them. Those people just need to shut up and crawl back into their holes where they came from.

HoosierArmyMom

I posted an article about the Iraq War study (2007) author demonstrating that he used unethical means to do his study that stated that 650,000 Iraqi citizens had been killed since the start of the war. I quoted a BBC article and a Houston Chronical article explaining how this guy would not give info on how the study was done to the people investigating his methods (they are doing their job in doing so). This study is what the anti-war,anti-Bush people have used to justify their existance. Now I have a liberal loon posting some link (probably a left wing deal) and asking me “if I’m sure”. I was sure it was blown up and a proproganda study when it first appeared. Just reading Michael Yon’s dispatches tells one plenty about who was murdering Iraqi civilians and it was mostly imported AQ operatives, suicide bombers and Sunni vs Shite factions. I am so sick of left wing lunacy, manipulation and hippcrasy I could scream.

There now, Momma’s had her rant for the day.

1stCavRVN11B

[…During his second deployment, he again implored his mother to privately purchase equipment that had been stolen from him …]

Wasn’t there another douchebag from the IVAW recently featured at TAH that was bragging about stealing other troops equipment? Maybe it was his mentor. Kinda fit’s. Even thieves have honor among themselves…wll.most, but among the IVAW and these types, he probably sold it for some crack or something. Real winners these scumbags.

UpNorth

So, how does McCann know that assaults are on the rise, but courts-martial have declined? Who gave her the info? Or is this just another case of the anti_American morons making it up as they go along?
As to stolen equipment, maybe he sold it. That charge is just as valid as him crying to mama that some meanie stole his stuff. Wahhhhh.

Nixon

That awful racist military…which was fully integrated over 60 years ago when it was unpopular to do so.

Raoul

MFSO was founded by Charlie Richardson and Nancy Lessen. A couple of old freaked out hippies from the 60s who now ride the union gravy train.

JuniorAG

“Lisa Zepeda, added that victims of assault have no outside authority they can report assaults to; a victim must go through her immediate superior within her unit.”

BULL$***!! MY WIFE IS A UNIT VICTIM ADVOCATE in her Army Reserve unit. A victim can file a report with a third party such as the Chaplain, Victim Advocate, and Sexual Assault Response Coordinator. All of this is covered in the Sexual Assault Prevention & Response Program. On my 07-08 tour, AFN was broadcasting commercials about it all the time.

JuniorAG

“During his second deployment, he again implored his mother to privately purchase equipment that had been stolen from him and that the Army refused to replace.”

Hmmm… A single Soldier with no real bills, a deployment under his belt, and he’s hitting up mumsykins for $$$ ??? Something smells rotten here. I’d like to see his credit report & what he wasted his pay on.

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Patricia McCann

I go the info from the official DoD’s report on sexual assaults, actualy. It must have been either from 2007 or 2008 judging by the time this blog was written. Wish I had read it back then, maybe some of you would have learned that all of us who are against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are not idiots.

NHSparky

No, just most of you. But you ARE traitors for your actions.

UpNorth

Wow, you fell off the planet for two and a half years, Ms McCann? And, as to your statement about the wars, what Sparky said.
And, you reported “facts” from a report that you didn’t read? And you wonder why people think that people like you are idiots?

Patricia McCann

I did read the report, I do every year. I didn’t read this blog. Traitors are the people who perpetuate wars that bankrupt our country and kill Americans and innocent people.

TSO

Just watched your asinine and insulting testimony of Youtube. Don’t presume to speak for me again please. I am a veteran, I served in combat, and I didn’t get “dehumanize” at all, so knock off thinking you can speak for all of us.

malclave

@15

kind of extreme there, calling Obama, Clinton, etc. “traitors”, don’t you think?

Old Trooper

“Traitors are the people who perpetuate wars that bankrupt our country and kill Americans and innocent people.”

Ok, Ms. McCann; why the fuck did you join the military? Did you not know the purpose and mission of the military before you signed on the line and raised your right hand? Did you think you were above all that? You weren’t training for a Girl Scout cookie sale. When has there ever been a war where innocent people weren’t killed? I know your comment was pointed towards Bush (it seems that the leftists still have a hard on for Bush 3 years after he left office), but as malclave points out, these are now Obama’s wars and Clinton had his go with sending troops to war, as well. So, I guess every President during every war/conflict is/was a traitor? Where did you get that statement, from the workers world newspaper? It had a tinge of cliche on it.

Patricia McCann

You don’t know who my comments were meant for. I happen to believe that what Obama is perpetrating in Iraq, Afgahnistan as well as Libya is wrong, but you’d have to be completely out of touch to assert that Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as the current way the military is being run and used (wasteful, human life and money) was initiated by GW Bush. Are you guys blind to what is going on? No jobs, cutting EVERYTHING while trillions are spent on wars that benefit a very small part of society (usually the richest of the rich)?

I don’t hate soldiers, I was a soldier and not a girl scout. I was also a FEMALE soldier, and yes, I felt dehumanized, both because of my gender and the way I treated and thought about Iraqi people (which was much more respectful and compassionate than the majority of my unit). However, I understand that you people will not acknowledge the shitty way women are treated in the military…I’m guessing because if you were in the military, you either did not know any women or treated them like shit.

I don’t know what any of your experiences were, but I spoke about mine. Obviously you guys are consumed with hate which is probably why you support the war(s). I won’t be visiting this idiotic site ever again, a place where hopeless insecure bastards spew hate and remain to afraid to speak about things that are actually WRONG and to heartless to support anyone who tries to make things right.

NHSparky

I won’t be visiting this idiotic site ever again

Promise?

Southern Class

Who was that wench, and what was that odor that came from her?