Good Enough to Die For

| November 17, 2017

As some of you may know I’ve been dealing with illness for the past few months with symptoms that frequently include debilitating headaches when I become too active, physically or mentally, even something as simple as writing and organizing a few short paragraphs. That’s why you’ve been spared my usual diatribes. I’m wondering if it would be okay with Jonn and you readers for me to periodically send some of my better old reruns from my early writing days at Old War Dogs and American Thinker. Going back and reading some of them, I’m amazed at how timely some still are. For those who are unfamiliar with the now deceased Pat Conroy, check him out for while he may have been a lefty but he wrote some damned good novels about military life. I wrote this in 2006 when Conroy published an essay in which he related the soul searching he had done one night, long after the war, while staying in the home of a fellow Citadel graduate who had served as a Marine Aviator and been a wounded POW. His confession confirmed a truth that I had long asserted about the motivation of many Vietnam War protestors–they were afraid to serve in combat. His essay is definitely worth reading, especially if you’re a Vietnam vet like many here at TAH.

Poe
Good Enough to Die For

I have just read a mea culpa by Vietnam War protestor, novelist and poet, Pat Conroy, who possesses the literary skills to express what I am willing to bet many other older American males, his former brothers at the barricades, also feel, but lack the skills and the honesty to articulate. It is left to men like the politically born again David Horowitz and novelist Conroy to speak for these old troupers of the Left’s long-haired legions, to reveal their long hidden recognition that they were possibly misguided in their protesting but more often than most will ever admit, motivated more by fear of serving in combat than by any sense of moral/political rectitude.

For that reason this is an issue that reverberates only within the ranks of male protestors of that era. For the braless, hygiene and make-up challenged young women of the movement, there existed no threat of death or disfigurement in combat, so the purity of their motives is questionable only in the intellectual, not the moral sense. They may have been naïve fools but they weren’t hiding a blushing personal cowardice behind the skirts of world socialism. This then, is an issue of character only for these now old, greying men who, like Conroy, must eventually face the moral consequences of their actions in those turbulent days.

As someone who, like most of us, has experienced events in my life where I now wish that I had shown more moral and physical courage, more honesty, and most importantly, more unquestioning love and understanding of family, I know how those failures live with you long after the memories of trying to do so many things right have dimmed. Many of my lapses involved nothing more than minor events where I failed to speak up, or stand up and be counted, or even stand up and be knocked down; but regardless of their minor nature, it is these life events that forever remain active in my psyche. In my mid-sixties now, I have learned all too well that it’s not the fights you won or even the fights you lost that keep niggling away at the edges of your conscience: it’s the fights you failed to fight when you knew damned well that you should.

Deceased author John D. MacDonald, who wrote the wonderful Travis McGee mystery series, once explained through his fictional hero, McGee, the way to make correct moral decisions and it is a simple wisdom that has stayed in my brain, but not always exemplified by my behavior, through the remainder of my life. It is nothing more than this: do the hard thing. When faced with tough choices, look to that course of action which is the one you want least to follow because it appears to be the most difficult for you; it may hurt personally, but almost always, it is the right course for you to follow for the good of others.

My belief is that a lot of Vietnam War protestors were rightfully fearful of the physical perils of combat, as were all those of us who chose to serve there; but where we tamped down those fears and continued the mission, they wrongfully used a contrived moral outrage against the war as convenient cover to conceal their cowardice. To buttress that theory one simply has to look at how the huge, angry protests diminished, and ultimately disappeared in a remarkably short time once Congress ended the military draft. As young, draft-age men, all those angry protestors were able at the time to righteously rationalize away their true motivation until Congress stole their alibi, and only now, with the awareness and self-accounting that comes with age, are they, like Pat Conroy, facing the truth of their personal cowardice. Sadly, too late, they have come to realize the truth of Conroy’s most perceptive quote:

“America is good enough to die for even when she is wrong.”

I believe those are words worthy of being carved into every war memorial in America. And I am thankful that I and all my brothers and sisters at arms who served then, and those who serve now, possessed then and now, but even in our callow youth, the intrinsic wisdom to recognize that truth. All Americans must die, but those who understand this fundamental reality about this very unique nation will die with their chins held just a few degrees higher than those who didn’t realize it when they should have, but now do, like Conroy and his legions, and sadly, those young people of today who still do not.

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Ex-PH2

First off, Poe, take care of you.

That’s a good essay. It says what I always knew – they were too chickenhearted to even give it a shot. Look what we have now.

But everything comes full circle, you know, and I think that is what is going on, however slowly it may seem to be happening.

Wilted Willy

Poe, I will be praying for you and your recovery, I too am fighting cancer, so I pray for all my brothers and sisters on TAH to live a long and healthy life. Especially our dear brother Jonn! I remember being laughed at in high school for being in the ROTC and more laughs and disdain when they knew I was joining the Army. I’m sure you are correct, most of them were just too chicken shit to risk being hurt! God Bless you Poe!

OldManchu

It must feel so good to have stayed the course and served at that time when you were ridiculed for ROTC and Enlisting.

Thank You for your service.

desert

There was a time in the late 60’s and early 70’s where kids in school were indoctrinated by the left that the military was BAAADD! Unfortunately my son was in that group, he never went in, don’t misunderstand, he is a good man, a deacon in his church, a good husband and a loyal employee, but what I see is the same lack of maturity that I see in all that didn’t serve….there is a certain growing up in the military that is invaluable imho

Graybeard

Poe, like EX & WW said, take care of yourself. I pray that they are able to treat your illness and get you back to diatribing. You are a valued part of TAH.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Poe,

Take care of your self, you are needed here.

MCPO

Combat Historian

It’s a shame that Pat Conroy did not have the intestinal fortitude of his father, Marine fighter pilot and 3-war veteran Col. Donald Conroy. If he had the will and gumption to have stuck it out, I’m sure Pat would have made a good military officer as well…

P.S.: Stay strong and take care of yourself, Poe…

desert

Poe-I don’t know if you have accepted Jesus, if you haven’t please do so, the next life is so wonderful we can’t believe it or comprehend it! The alternative is SO BAD, that we can’t believe or comprehend it either….thats what the enemy wants us to think! God bless you and keep you!

Bernie Hackett

Poe, best wishes for your recovery. I remember James Fallows saying essentially the same thing Pat Conroy did. Once the draft ended, so did (mostly) the ao called anti war movement. And then, we just had to let all the temporary “Canadians” come back with no consequences.

Buckeye Jim

I have noticed (aside from physical cowardice) a selfishness among the draft protestors/dodgers. Many of my contemporaries during that time were not willing to disrupt their lives with two years of service even if it meant just “shoveling shit in Louisiana” to paraphrase Patton.

Get well and keep up the good fight.

Perry Gaskill

Dunno, Poe. If I had had to guess, I might have put you in the category of a Faulkner fan instead of one for Conroy.

Personally, I never liked Conroy all that much. I remember it being a real struggle to get through The Great Santini. There seemed to be way too much introspective teenage angst getting in the way of the narrative. Anybody past the age of going emo about the senior prom eventually realizes that hardly anyone gets Beaver Cleaver’s old man for a parent.

Something else that seems annoying is Conroy’s essay on his admitted cowardice during Viet Nam. The essay itself is apparently acting as means of catharsis and redemption; he evidently wants to get his guilt out of his system, and have us forgive him. Sorry, pal. There are some things you do that you are always going to own.

Which means that while “America is good enough to die for even when she is wrong” might be somewhat true, I don’t want to hear it from somebody like Conroy writing decades later from the perspective of his personal writer’s comfort zone.

CB Senior

“Cowards Die…”

TF-BA

Yep. When the ramp drops on the AMTRAC you have to take that beach. You have to be willing to sacrifice yourself and those around you because the only safety to be found is victory. There is nowhere to go but forward. If you don’t win, everyone dies in the water.

I wish I could remember which of my Marines explained this to me as an E-3 Corpsman. I find it a fitting companion to your comment, and the first thing that sprang to mind when confronted with the simple truth of your two words.

CB Senior

Well it was a two-fold comment.
As you pointed out. Move or Die.
Secondly it was a quick paraphrase of the quote: “Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once.”
Shakespeare.

Perry Gaskill

It has often seemed to me that literature academics can be accused of having pointy heads because, although they can recognize good writers, they seem inept at picking which of a writer’s work to introduce to students. An example is Faulkner’s The Sound and the Fury, which is an okay work, but something a normal reader might appreciate only after reading a bunch of other Faulkner stuff.

A similar example is John Steinbeck. It’s as if American Lit professors are obsessed with beating some kid over the head with The Grapes of Wrath when better introductory alternatives exist. I can appreciate The Grapes of Wrath as a sort of cerebral marathon, but it would be about my last choice if suggesting Steinbeck to a friend. What’s wrong with Cannery Row, say, or Tortilla Flat?

Such a fixation on the ponderous is then followed by endless hand-wringing in the academic community, and wondering why students can’t seem to get traction beyond the level of the Marvel Comics universe. Something which also seems to be the norm in the film industry these days.

The Stranger

I read Grapes of Wrath by choice in high school. I actually enjoyed it and found it more engaging than “The Pearl”, which I was assigned in the 6th grade.

Stacy0311

Prince of Tides was a good book. What they did to it in the movie version was a crime

LC

Sorry to hear you’ve been unwell lately, Poe. Hope you have a fast and full recovery.

Atkron

Take care of yourself Poe, I love reading your posts.

You need some chicken soup, it cures everything….at least that’s what Grandma thought.

Sparks

Dear Poetrooper,

Get well Sir. That’s first and foremost for you and your family. We’ll always be here.

UpNorth

Wow, who would have guessed that my dad was right, way back in 68. He said the same thing about protestors, and their parents. That was after I’d enlisted in the Army, and one of my former friend’s father told my dad that I should have gone to Canada, like he was urging his son. Dad’s words were far more colorful, and NSFW.
Take care of yourself, Poe.

Commissioner Wretched

Poe, I join the rising chorus of us here at TAH in wishing you good health and recovery from this hideous disease (cancer survivor here too). I’ve always enjoyed reading Pat Conroy, and I too read his Mea Culpa … I just wish it hadn’t taken him to the end of his life to state what he had to have realized way back then.

Take care of yourself, Poe.

OldSoldier54

Will add you to the list for Intercessory Prayer that includes WW, Brother.

MrBill

Take care of yourself Poe, I hope you’re feeling better soon.

NHSparky

Speedy recovery, Poe.

All too often we see people following the mob, taking the easy way, rather than look within and make their own path.

Makes me wonder what would happen if people learned and thought for themselves.

ALVO

TF-BA — When the ramp drops….that is why I tear up at the thought of what those AMAZING YOUNG MEN faced on that day in June. My RESPECT is the deepest, my REVERENCE is profound, and my daily THANKING THEM for my Freedom is something I am duty bound as an AMERICAN to extend to them in the greatest sincerity and from the core of my soul.
The opening 15 minutes of Saving Private Ryan impacted me beyond anything I can communicate here but know that I extend my hand and give THANKS to EVERY VETERAN I come across on a daily basis, regardless of where I am and what I’m doing. It is the VERY LEAST I can do. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.

ALVO

MY COUNTRY, RIGHT, OR WRONG.

USAFRetired

Poe I pray for your recovery. Pat Conroy is a talented writer, and he and I have lived parallel lives. But he was the poster child for the phrase Too soon old and too late smart. Here is part of a letter to the editor of The Charleston Post and Courier from January 1999. It is part of a longer letter he wrote to put the then State Senator on notice about his plans to consolidate some of the State Colleges in Charleston South Carolina. Here is that excerpt. C&P In 1996 I accompanied President Bill Clinton and a delegation of 50 Americans to Ireland in an attempt to get the peace process started again. It was my proudest moment as an American citizen. President Clinton handled himself magnificently, and I thought my country could not be in better hands. I was ecstatic when he won his two terms as president, and I attended his last inaugural ball in Washington with the South Carolina Democrats. As South Carolina knows, I am a white Southern liberal of the knee-jerk variety, and I thought that Bill Clinton represented the best of my breed. I was wrong. I was terribly, terribly wrong. Because of my Citadel education, I cannot accept a president so comfortable with lies, half-truths and evasions. This year has been agony for me as I watched the politician I admired the most putresce before my eyes. Because of the Honor Code, I believed the president about Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey and Monica Lewinsky. I bought the whole package not because I am naive, but because I am a Citadel man and cut my teeth in a military society where our word was our bond and where our trust in each other in the barracks was such that it was against the rules to lock our doors. I learned lessons at The Citadel that my president did not learn at Georgetown University, Oxford University, or Yale Law School. Until this year, it never occurred to me I received a much finer education than Bill Clinton. He knows little about… Read more »