Dan Bilzerian; the records
We first wrote about fake celebrity, Dan Bilzerian in December 2013 when he was pushing the idea that he was “almost a SEAL”. According to Bilzerian, he was booted from BUD/S for reasons that seem to change. He claims that he struck an officer, that he cursed an officer, that he committed a safety violation, that the instructors were out to get him. Take your pick on which excuse you want to believe.
Bilzerian was in the news again in the last few weeks because he happened to be at the Las Vegas massacre and he was able to post to Instagram while the shooting was going on. He was criticized by Medal of Honor recipient, Dakota Meyer for scurrying away from the scene without helping any of the injured folks. From Washington Post;
He turned a camera on himself as he walked, short of breath, from the killing grounds, and at first resolved to live up to years of online bravado.
“Trying to go grab a gun,” he says in the clip. “I’m f—— headed back. … Saw a girl get shot in the face right next to me, her f—— brains hanging out.”
But in the next clip, which briefly appeared on Bilzerian’s Instagram account and has since been plastered over the Internet, he stands in front of police lights, looking slightly dazed.
“Um, they got one of the guys,” he says, no gun in sight, all fury gone from his voice. “I’m headed back. I don’t think there’s much I can do.”
So he went home, leaving fans to wonder whether one of Instagram’s most formidable stars was something different in real life.
Here’s video from the UK’s Sun of Bilzerian begging cops for their gun during the shooting. They tell him to “Get the F*** away from me”.
So, according to Dakota Meyer, Bilzerian is all hot air. His “almost a SEAL” bravado dissipates under actual gun fire. Meyer rushed through Taliban fire several times to rescue a number of people from an ambush in Afghanistan earning a Medal of Honor.
Well, now it seems that Bilzerian has been handing out the phone number of Meyer’s wife, Bristol Palin, according to Celebrity Insider and Meyer has challenged Bilzerian to settle their differences like men;
Yesterday, the decorated marine took to social media to make his unexpected challenge known.
Meyer posted a video that he captured: ‘Here @danbilzerian I am done with your petty games. Do not ever drag my family into anything. I’m waiting.’
In the video he shared, Meyer threatened Bilzerian, saying he has finally gotten his attention if that is what he wanted.
He went on to claim that he would’ve easily let it slide if Bilzerian only messed with him but his family is a whole different story.
‘You want to bring my family in this, you want to put my wife in danger by putting her phone number out to people? You got your little friends trying to FaceTime her? My life is not a game and it is not entertainment either so what I’ll tell you is, my family’s purpose is my purpose, and now you are my mission. This ain’t an option. You just need to tell me when and where and if not we will be somewhere together, I’m sure. Why don’t we handle this like men? You got it, Dan? I’m waiting.’
Well, someone asked us if we had Bilzerian’s military records, so we searched our archives and turned up a FOIA on him;
It looks like he was honorably discharged as a Quartermaster, an E-4. He went on to the Reserves and he wouldn’t have if he’d had an other than honorable discharge from the Navy. He left the Navy the month after the war in Iraq began. If it had been me, I would have stuck around for a few years, you know, since we were at war, but that’s me.
He likes to play dress up and talk about what a badass he is, but the truth is that Dan Bilzerian left the military when they needed him most. Or maybe he did the Navy a favor by leaving. Either way, Las Vegas wasn’t the first time he ran from a fight.
Category: Who knows
Re: Bilzerian.
Kind of reminds me of Giduck the Speznatz ninja, although this douche at least put in four honorable years before fleeing the fight when the actual fighting began…
A spoiled rich kid who likes to think he impresses others that he’s a badass. ME? I did three years Army AD and came back in after a nine year break in service in order to get deployed, so FUCK YOU Dan Bilzerian! Dakota Meyer is a LEGIT badass, a USMC Vet who is a recipient of the MoH and Dan Bilzerian decides to screw with his family which puts him on the same level as a certain disbarred lawer who is currently in lockup. I hereby motion for Dan Bilzerian to receive The Official TAH Wall of Insults®™.
Dan Bilzerian, WHAT an attention-whoring LITTLE SHIT!
Second.
Och, aye!
Well, gentlemen, it certainly looks like you have all the bases covered. I think this guy is a big attention whore and bitch so here it comes. Wall of Insults®™ FIRE IN THE HOLE!!!! TACTICAL NUCLEAR ROUND OUT!!!! DANGER CLOSE!!!! MOPP LEVEL 4!!! TAKE COVER!!!!! Dan “Blitzkrieg” Bilzerian, was NOT a SEAL, IS a coward and massive bitch and attention whore, ALLEGEDLY, but not confirmed or proven, but in some people’s opinion, works balls, tickles taint and tongue punches hobo’s crusty fart boxes all, I Guess, while being a syphilitic, turd-sucking feces factory, Bitch-ass Fuckstick guzzler, pile infested, onion-eyed flapmouthed butt-bailiff, “Fowl” mouthed Chicken Fucking Chickenfucker, moral equivalent of pond scum, THIS MOTHERFUCKER IS A WALKING TURD, inflamed, “Towel boy” in a gay bath house, Ambulatory verbal dissembling anus, gaping ass fungus nugget, Cambodian cunt sauce, Poopy Headed ball working asshole, Poster-child for abortion, Swallowing Spoo Sampler, shit tonguing, munching wanktoaster, cock gobbling Pigfucker, lientery steatorrhea, sperm burping, tit, sniveling, codpiece licking toilet seat sniffer, lying bucket of Chihuahua shit, taintpimple, Pillow bitin pickle smoocher, Bowl of ass soup, Festering fuckwart on a sewer rat’s ass, needle dick bug fucker, Satan even said about you, “Boy is this guy a DICK!, Sparklepony, Toilet weasel, worthless, Vice Admiral of the Narrow Seas, Blows winos behind bus stops for a nickel and gives change, More worthless than rubber lips on a woodpecker or tits on a boar hog, moldy bowl of ratshit, would wear Richard Simmons’ used jockstrap as a facemask, useless bag of monkey fuck, dickbutt, rectum circling colon goblin, rancid floor buffer wax spreader, both of your Grandmothers should have had an abortion, just in case, I’ve seen bigger wieners on a cocktail plate!, Mayor Grundle of Scrotumburg and Anusville, waste of oxygen, Grandstanding cunt, prickwrinkler, anal sphincter canyon yodeling phallic squeezer, numbnuts, snowball, giggling beerflecked canker blossom , ball-tickling & ball gargling bullshiat artist, maybe a “buggerer of little boys”, rottencrotched, rump wrangling, colostomy bag curator, culo de chongo, booger eating fuckbucket, Lemon Party-lusting fruitcake, putrid, rotting, Santorum Stained Molting Muscrat, whoreson whale’s carcass, Rumpranger, overzealous polyp burglar, bed… Read more »
Motion passes
Dan “Blitzkrieg” Bilzerian
Is a Facking Piece of 💩💩💩
And a ate up loser
Please, kind sir, do tell me what you really think!
“..booger eating..” was rather harsh.
I bet he could have used some of that Navy first aid/trauma training to help out. But he ran one way and ran some more to make video. I am glade the Navy said no trident for you to this fool.
When your ETS rolls around, it is time to take a break or reenlist.
Qmaster is an important job, but they don’t offer that max reup bonus every month
He never served as a QM. Dude spent his entire time in the Navy in training and never contributed a single day to an actual mission. What a waste of taxpayer $.
Don’t forget he is a trust fund baby. Daddy was a wolf on wall street and hide about half a billion dollars in his kids trust funds before going to prison.
Exactly.
Dan Bilzerian has a curious biography. He’s apparently indeed a trust funder, and one of those Los Angeles dickweeds obsessed with flaunting a flamboyant lifestyle in a pathetic attempt at fame. Sort of the male version of Paris Hilton, who is famous for being famous.
Part of the backstory is that Bilzerian’s father was a notorious corporate raider back in the 80’s who went to prison for SEC violations. At the time, the elder Bilzerian was also fined around $140 million, but the feds were evidently never able to recover the money. There were allegations at the time that cash was parked in trust accounts and offshore.
Why Dan Bilzerian would want to pick a fight with Dakota Meyer is a mystery. Meyer gained his own public recognition by earning it the hard way.
Bilzerian being a star on Instagram is sort of like being the chief pumper on a septic tank clean-out crew.
DB, what appropriate initials. Don’t you think?
Once quoted saying that if someone broke into his house he was afraid that he would not know what gun to shoot them with because he has so many.
Strait Up HUMP.
On a semi-related issue: anyone know how a certain disbarred attorney’s hearing went yesterday?
Burnt Nuts to the rescue?
DB’s all around.
Yeah, it went well for him – he qualified to win a free turkey dinner for Thanksgiving, awarded by Virginia taxpayers.
It should be a most satisfying Thanksgiving holiday experience for Danny…he will play the game of “Turkey”…Thor will bend over and Danny will gobble
Here comes the stuffing!
Gonna be more than corn that gets creamed.
And a tossed salad, to boot.
Julio, Bubba and Mr. “Tiny” are gonna get their fill of Danni-boi too…
Curious if he was more subdued in court after having spent a few weeks in the hoosegow?
He may have not been in the Courtroom. VA has Video cameras set up where the prisoners talk to the Judge instead of going to Court.
Or his Lawyer or Doctors might have spoken for him.
check the inmate database. next court date is december. I believe mental eval takes 60 or 90 days
Great, just great…
But there is no joy in Florida.
Littledanny has struck out.
(giggle-snorrtttt!) Okay, I’m going back to what I was doing that is more interesting than he is and try to have some pages done by day’s end.
It isn’t easy running a wordsmithy.
Hondo, I sent Jonn a copy of what took place yesterday in VA if you are interested.
Next session hearing date for him is 15 Dec 2017.
Anxiously awaiting. Kinda like not wanting to watch the train wreck but you can’t help yourself.
Is that a transcript or a summary? Either is sufficient.
It is a Summary…wish it was a trsnscript. Very short…all it had was his new court date listed that is going to be a Session Hearing.
Out of respect for Jonn, don’t want to post it here because it is his Blog even though it is public info. Will send you all the link with instructions to follow.
Send now.
((Over))
Here are the instructions to see the summary:
Go to this Link:
http://www.courts.state.va.us/caseinfo/home.html
Under Circuit Court, click Case Information. You should get this link:
http://ewsocis1.courts.state.va.us/CJISWeb/circuit.jsp
Scroll to Chesapeake Circuit Court. You should get this link:
http://ewsocis1.courts.state.va.us/CJISWeb/MainMenu.do
Type in the name. You will be able to obtain the same information I did.
Wish I could get more info for all.
Thanks! Got it. Sumpin’s happenin’ on Friday 13th, but I don’t know what.
JSF
You are welcome! Saw the same thing as well for Friday the 13th, but did not address it because I have no clue what that means.
Virginia Law re Mental Examination:
https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title19.2/chapter18/section19.2-301/
SPALSH!!!!
REPEAT OVER!
I am an old fart. I do not know all these acronyms. What is a SPALSH, Over?
Rounds impacting target.
The term is “splash” (rounds impact), but I think Sapper purposefully reversed the lettering … sorta like “teh” instead of “the.”
Cheers!
His History of Assignments makes it look like he went to BUD/S twice, once in Nov 1999 and again in Aug 2001. Both “DUINS” or Duty, Under Instruction. His time at BUD/S looks like it could have been almost long enough to graduate. I’d like to hear more on what happened with each attempt.
Couldn’t swim.
Stayed in the shallow end of the pool.
Rang the bell or was simply a flop, one or the other.
Wrong on both counts.
Bilzerian broke his taint…x2!
Work with two Sailors that went though BUDS – one was killed in Afghanistan in a MVA before I retired, the second one went through three times – dropped the first time because of marital problems, the second due to a hairline fracture in his hip. He made it through the last time and is a real deal SEAL.
Bilzerian is a cocksucking assclown…
I’m stealing part of that for the WoI
You know you can… I provided the “FUCK YOU ASS HAMSTER” when you started deploying the WOL.
I worked with a SEAL that went through BUDS twice. He was getting ready to graduate and accidentally left his hunting rifle in his room which was of course, found.
Luckily, they didn’t kick him out, but he was given the option to go back to day 1 training. Fukker gutted it out again, successfully. 🙂
We were in the Q-Course together and he went back and did a tour on Bragg as cadre.
(RIP)
That was one dedicated SEAL. Not many would go back to Day 1 after almost finishing.
To be half the man he was.
I got this 2nd hand when all the interweb meme’s on this douche came out last week. My brother in law’s college roommate went through buds with Dan the first time. He got injured..broke both legs or something. He managed to do well enough to get a second shot and went through …got injured again and was also becoming something of a douche so they shitcanned him. I guess by his own admission he had had it. Again its second hand by a guy who knows a guy but fits with some of whats on here.
Some Teamguys tracked down his student records long ago.
Secured from hell week x2. Dropped from training in 3d phase, either a safety violation or instructors deeming him not a fit for the Teams.
He had the physical and mental toughness apparently, but not the mental composition for the job and the life.
Looks like they might have decided he would put himself before the Team and mission, particularly if he was under fire.
They probably thought he would leave a gravely wounded person to bleed out while he made some excuse to extract himself to a secure location most rikki-tikki.
Turns out they were correct.
Judging by his attention whoring, hardly a surprise.
Cocksucker
btw…it’s just Quartermaster, not Quartermaster’s Mate.
Quartermasters in the Navy are specialists in navigation
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Shack!!!
BDA = 100/100
Which makes you wonder how Bilzerian never ran a ship into an iceberg…
Or a cargo ship.
I’d say the Sea Service Counter in his DD214 answers that question: Zero Years, Zero Months, Zero Days
Poser assclown going after the family of a Marine who has been awarded the Medal of Honor.
Great idea. Very smart.
What could possibly go wrong.
Word ^^^^
Definitely not a sheepdog
In my neck of the woods he’d qualify as a “feist” – a little do who is all bark and aggression until the dog fight starts. Then they turn tail and cry when the big dogs growls.
It’s just Quartermaster, John (instead of Quartermaster Mate).
I’m sure most people in my community don’t claim that POS.
“Officer, what can I do to help?”
“Get out of here!”
(The next step he should have done)
“To hell with that. I’m going to help medevac. Good luck!”
There were plenty ways to help that night. Lead, follow or get out of the way.
Maybe we’re better off that this turd ‘gets out of the way’.
I just hope somebody gets video when Dakota Meyer stomps Bilzerian’s candy ass into oblivion. Not that the cocksucker is likely to put his money where his mouth is, mind you. I’m sure he’ll talk some shit on social media and then hide, since he surely knows that, unlike him, Meyer is the real deal.
I thought that shit with Meyer was weird…why stoop to this buffoon’s level?
The Dan Bilzerian Theme Song
In the same month that Hugh Hefner died another turd rises into the bowl to pretend to live teenage dreams.
Unfortunately the internet has been invented and repressed homosexuals are better understood.
I’m not sure I’d call the late Hugh Hefner a turd. It seemed to me in Vietnam that having Playboy around was sort of like the aircraft nose art in World War II. It was a reminder of what we were fighting for.
You didn’t think it was all about mom’s chocolate-chip cookies, did You?
^^^ Winner! ^^^ Way to, Perry! BAM!
Geezo Pete, I shoulda got up earlier. Oh, wait – I did. You guys beat me to all the good lines.
Phooey!
Frankly, I don’t think this self-centered wanker is worth the effort it takes to ferret ChipNASA out of his hidey-holed and install the WoI.
However, I think it’s fair to say that he has delusions of grandeur about the size of his equipment and his ability to use it, never mind his staying power. I’ve seen lizards that had a better chance of getting laid than this bushwhacker ever thought of. He doesn’t just drip at the nose, he IS that drip at the nose…and I don’t mean the one you wipe with Kleenex.
How’s that?
Too Late….
Come on Dan, SING IT!!!!
Oh, I’m just saying he’s all gun and no powder, ChipNASA.
Dan Bilzerian is a coward.
Dan Bilzerian runs away from danger.
Dan Bilzerian takes cheap shots at women.
Dan Bilzerian doesn’t have the testicular fortitude to face a real hero.
Dan Bilzerian is a liar.
Dan Bilzerian is a scumbag.
Dan Bilzerian is a legend in his own mind, but no where else.
Dan Bilzerian is a washout.
Dan Bilzerian is a failure.
Dan Bilzerian needs to go hide his face in his blankey and cry.
“He left the Navy the month after the war in Iraq began. If it had been me, I would have stuck around for a few years, you know, since we were at war, but that’s me.
He likes to play dress up and talk about what a badass he is, but the truth is that Dan Bilzerian left the military when they needed him most. Or maybe he did the Navy a favor by leaving. Either way, Las Vegas wasn’t the first time he ran from a fight.”
I wouldn’t say that anyone who chose not to reenlist after serving in Afghanistan between 2001-2004 “ran from a fight”. I know plenty of men who decided to not reenlist. There are more people, especially conservatives, who now say the Iraq War was a mistake than ever.
Bilzerian wasn’t in Afghanistan. Are you being obtuse again? Yeah, the world would be a better place if Hussein was still in it.
She’s being either obtuse or oblique or acute.
And intentionally so.
I was thinking she was scalene…
Think you misspelled “scaley”
“a cute? A cute what? Are you Nutz? A cute, P’ffffft.
I think she/it (whatever) has a reading comprehension problem or something. Either that or in her/xer proggie parallel universe Dangerous Dan actually went to A-stan.
Not my fault your point sounded like it could be applied to any veteran who got out within a year of OIF. If it was meant only for Bilzerian then I guess I understand your point.
The “Democracy Project” led to Iran having nuclear capability, greater influence in the middle east and becoming a global nuisance. Sadam kept Iran in check. Lydia didn’t turn out well either. That’s what most conservatives now agree is the truth now.
The truth?
That sounds like a communist term. Is that your talking point from the Demotard party?
I assure you, nobody cares about what you think conservatives think.
The way you use the word conservatives it feels as the most hated thing in your verbiage.
Besides, there is only one troll in this place, when Dave is not here, and it is me.
So go and troll some other place.
You jealous? I raised valid points. Of course they enjoy ad hominem too much to fully address them.
That might fly if Bilzerian ever went to Afghanistan, but he didn’t.
How goes your search for actual evidence of antisemitism on TAH, anyway?
She’s still searching through the Talmud for an answer to that.
I didn’t say Bilzerian did go to Afghanistan. I just questioned John’so claim that getting out of the military in 2003 during OIF is “running away from the enemy”. Most conservativesuccessful today say the war was a mistake. Maybe the world would be better off with Sadam in power. Now we have a Super Iran that has its hands in Iraqi politics, Yemen, Syria and elsewhere. Is the world better off with a Nuclear armed Iran that has grown in such influence?
First, Jonn didn’t make a generalized claim about vets. It was pretty clear that he was talking about Bitchzerian in particular.
Second, the merits of Iraq remain irrelevant to the topic at hand. Why do you insist on hijacking the discussion? This isn’t the first time you’ve done it.
Third, maybe if your messiah Barry hadn’t bent over for the Iranians, they wouldn’t be swinging their dicks so much now. Has that ever crossed your mind?
And have you found any actual evidence that this blog is a hangout for antisemites or any other kind of racist? Remember how you were harping the other day about how we’re all supposedly a bunch of Jew-hating skinheads for no apparent reason?
Barry was made more popular because of his opposition to OIF. If John hadn’t injected himself into the Bilzerian story by saying “I would have stuck around a few more years” then it would have made it sound like this was more of an attack only on Bilzerian. I understand John may have not meant it that way. Friendly fire (fratricide) happens with good intentions.
Dude, and I thought I was a retard.
Let me splain.
1, Getting out of the military when the shit is getting hott is cowardice.
2, Iran is close to nikes because your boy Zero-sum-bama help them out.
3, you are a retard.
I think covered all. Let me think…
You left out this, Yef:
4. Jonn’s first name is spelled JONN. NOT JOHN. Two n’s. NOT hn.
“Iran is close to nikes…”
What, are they close to having Air Jordans?
He mean nukes, API. NUKES.
Keyboards sometimes have a mind of their own. My new keyboard makes the keys jump around a lot. Haven’t got it tamed just yet. It’s still in the feral state.
I know, I just couldn’t resist being a wiseass about it!
That was a lame attempt to dodge the question. Barry’s popularity vis-a-vis his ideas about Iraq (which were no better conceived than Bush’s, arguably worse) has exactly what to do with his abject failure to handle Iran? Let me answer that for you: fuck all, that’s what. Your debating skills suck. Thanks for playing.
How ‘bout that evidence to back up your shrieking about alleged and unsubstantiated racism, huh? You might as well answer; nobody’s forgetting.
I don’t think his inference was meant for those who served during that time frame and didn’t re-enlist as much as it was for this jack leg (who has made his own reputation as a steely eyed killer). He knew after 9/11 we were going to be fighting somewhere and he chose to leave. If he would’ve had the desire to serve he would’ve had the opportunity.
I left the Marine Corps in 96 the first time, but returned to active duty with a reserve battalion that was deploying to OIF in 2004. It doesn’t make me special. It just means I found a way to serve when I had been out for a number of years prior to 9/11. API shared his similar story in a post above. A friend of mine did the same who had been out for over 10 years. Bilzerian had his chance to serve and chose not to.
Your point about OIF is a stupid one. When he chose to leave Iraq wasn’t even on the radar. Afghanistan was the closest thing to a shooting war that was going. And choosing not to serve after having served there is a far shot from not going at all.
I would agree if John hadn’t said he would have stayed in a few more years. Since he said that why couldn’t his claim of “running away from the enemy” be applied to every single Veteran who left the military during OIF?
We got two completely different things from Jonn’s comments, because I didn’t get what you took away from it at all.
Well if Bilzerian ran away from a fight by getting out of the military in 2004 why can’t that same comment be applied to any Veteran that didn’t deploy to OIF and got out of the military?
Lily, you have a mind like concrete and by that I mean it’s all mixed up and permanently set!
If you just said “Yes I think all those vets ran away from the enemy” instead of being stubborn we wouldn’t be here. 🙂
Apparently, LILY, you can’t make the connection between Bilzerian leaving the military when Iraw was starting to heat up and his running off the scene while doing a selfie at the Las Vegas shooting.
He ran away at Las Vegas just as he ran away when Iraq was warming up. How hard is that to figure out?
And then he goes after someone’s family? He’s just a base coward.
And while I’m at it, quit hijacking the discussions here. Set up your own blog and do it there.
All of the grief Bilzerian being brought onto Bilzerian is of his own making. If he hadn’t spent the years since he left the military trying to convince everyone how much of a tough guy he is nobody would be talking about him. He portrays himself as someone living to go into the breech, but the truth is when there was a war going on he got out. If he didn’t think he would get there in the Navy he could’ve crossdecked to one of the two other services that were sending thousands to OIF or OEF. If he wanted to fight, there was a way to make that happen. Now he’s living on the coattails of those of us who did put our asses into harms way and it pisses us off.
In view of his history, and not completing his BUD/s quals section, I’d guess he washed out on purpose there, too.
Now he can pick a fight with me. What is he? 5’11? I think I could handle him.
I tried to re-^-Up after 9-11 but was told I was too old, bald, fat and ugly to rejoin the US Army, even though I was a nurse at that time and 11B back in 77.
I would have gone back in a minute even with having to go back through Basic and AIT again, I was really hoping to go…
What are you complaining about? The Navy didn’t want any more PHs. They wanted GMs and AKs/SKs.
And Jonn wasn’t saying that “anyone” who chose not to enlist “ran from a fight.”
If Specialist Joe Blow was in the military circa 2003 and saw that war was coming as his ETS was approaching and simply chose not to reenlist, got out while the getting was good, and just went on to live a quiet life, nobody would bat an eye, nor would anyone accuse him of “running from a fight.”
But if Specialist Blow then, years later after his military commitment is over and he is safely in the civilian world, starts spouting off about what a badass warrior he is, then it’s completely legitimate to say “hey, bud, you had the opportunity to go toe-to-toe with America’s enemies and you chose not to. You chose to leave when your country was about to go to war, so don’t pretend to be a tough guy now that it won’t cost you anything.”
A statement as true as it is irrelevant to this whole issue.
Actually, lily, you’re wrong on two counts.
1. According to his records, Bilzerian was in San Diego during the Afganistan invasion. His records indicate he never set foot in that country while in uniform.
2. Also according to his records, he didn’t separate between Afghanistan and Iraq. He chose – and was allowed – to separate over a month after the Iraq war had begun.
Bilzerian left active duty on 28 April 2003. The Iraq War started on 20 March 2003.
Does that mean all Veterans who didn’t deploy to OIF “ran away from the fight”. Can we apply this to all?
No. The point of the comment was quite obvious in context. Is context something you have a hard time with?
Are you being intentionally illogical, lily? If so, I gotta tell you: that’s not helping your argument.
Since you apparently don’t see the distinction here, I’ll spell it out for you. Whether someone in the military deploys or not is often luck of the draw. Compliance with orders regarding duty station is not optional. You don’t get orders to deploy, you don’t deploy. Period.
However, voluntarily separating from the military is a different story. That requires a deliberate decision followed by voluntary action on the part of the individual.
I’ll go out on a limb and say that most if not all of those who actually volunteered to deploy find what this guy did . . . less than acceptable. I for one certainly do.
As Martinjmpr above noted, none of this would matter if the guy had simply moved on to other things after separating from the military. He didn’t. The fact that he advertises himself, somewhat falsely, as a former military BAMF and self-styled expert makes his past conduct relevant.
And you know what’s odd about that, I was stop-lossed at the end of my enlistment – GySgt(sel) at the time. I thought most everybody was (maybe Navy wasn’t?). I don’t remember the exact dates without digging though paperwork, but yea sometime in 2003/2004 my contract ended and I was still on active duty.
Please dear Lord, do not let Lily reproduce and contaminate the gene pool any further.
God doesn’t answer the unrighteous, too bad for you sinner.
You do remember the bit about the beam in your own eye, right?
Your theology seems as disordered as your political posts.
I didn’t say I was praying to God so how could I have a beam in my eye?
Casting the hell outta that first stone, ain’tcha?
No because it was response to a stone caster.
Funny thing, Lily, if God didn’t, as you claim, answer the prayers of sinners, then He would never answer any at all, including yours. I think you know where you can stick your sanctimonious crap.
SWEET Baby Jesus wrapped in C4, det cord, duct tape and Claymore Mines on a broke-dick bamboo raft stuck up Shit Creek without a paddle, you have made yourself a mild clone of that obnoxious critter from UC Berzerkely!
Don’t look at me. I didn’t invite this one!
I did attend a UC. Does that mean we’re all “bad”?
No, just that you’re not casting the UC system in a positive light. But hey, I just went to a lowly CSU, so what the hell do I know?
Really depends on your theology. When did God have to answer anyone’s prayers. If God chooses to answer a prayer that’s on him. Last I looked sinners weren’t entitled to prayers answered. But you’re probably an autonomous “free will” arminianism type.
Incorrect again. God listens to everyone, including sinners.
Who are you to judge who is or is not a sinner? What makes you think you know more about the will of God than anyone else? Because you read a bible 30 times?
Judge not, lest ye be likewise judged, Tootsie.
Who on this Earth is not a sinner, Lily?
By the way, where’s that evidence proving that we’re all being-nazis like you claimed?
*Neo-nazis*
“Smart” phone my Black Irish ass…
Hmm. Sounds to me like someone is feeling quite smugly self-righteous.
Last time I checked, lily, no human determines which prayers God does and does not not answer. And regarding your attitude, you might want to review Proverbs 16:18.
I have not the slightest doubt that my prayers have been answered on a number of occasions, even before I found Christ. I have not the slightest doubt that I am a sinner, and thus by definition unrighteous.
If -this- latecomer to Team Jesus, as poorly as I have played for the team, can be answered…
So I find her assertion highly questionable, and theologically suspect. Those born again make that first 911 call from a highly compromised state. And yet, He answers.
“Amazing Grace” can still give me chills.
You sure it wasn’t just coincidence since you were focused on getting what you prayed for? If praying helps you that’s good. We all need any extra edge we can get. How far down the theological rabbit hole have you gone? You study textual criticism, Bible versions, armininanism, calvinism, what “church” leaders have believed and eschatology? You ever been to citizenaudit Web page and seen how much money these “pastors” have made yearly. Look up “Hal Lindsey and grace to you”. Hal Lindsey a few years ago made $4 million dollars in one year. John MacArthur makes around $300,000 yearly at a minimum. Must be nice to be a rich guy yelling the poor folk to “give money or God won’t bless you”. Not to mention after a long time of “believing” you may find out your biggest challenge to your “faith” looks you in the mirror every day. So yeah, take from it what you can to help you survive this life. Sice were getting all “religious” can I get a TAHallelujah ?
No, you self-righteous prig.
I like Calvinism, dispensation alism, premillennialism and the concept of the propitiation. Most of you probably have a overly superstitious arminanism concept of God. Self righteousness is simply the belief one can earn righteousness by their own works. You seem to think you’re an expert in many things. Unlike most I’ve read the entire Bible about 30 times.
You don’t seem to have paid much attention.
So how ‘bout that evidence, huh?
Me? “expert in many things” – Pot calling the kettle black AGAIN.
Read the Bible 30 times? And that makes you what? I don’t care how many times you’ve read it. You have no concept of forgiveness. Everything you’ve posted is about you and your need to control which direction things go.
Obviously, you have some real issues there.
It makes me well read. “No concept of forgiveness” That’s actually really funny, thanks for the laugh. Did you look up “propitiation”? You do realize the difference between forgiveness and fleeing persecution? Would you forgive an abusive husband and stay, only to continue to be abused? A smart person would break contact, flee the persecution. You don’t seem to understand much theology. Maybe you should stick to ad hominem.
Um, no. Reading a single book 30 times means only that you’ve read the same book 30 times – nothing more, and nothing less. That’s true whether the book you’re talking about is The Holy Bible or Lady Chatterley’s Lover.
That does not constitute being “well read”. Nor does it mean you actually understood the book you claimed to have read 30 times.
Being well read means you’ve read extensively – e.g., multiple different works covering multiple different subjects. And it also implies you actually understood what you read.
No, it makes you nothing but a smug, arrogant, self-absorbed jerk.
And do not change the subject, capon.
We’ll just have to agree to disagree. 🙂
Provide chapter and verse numbers NOW.
It’s not your choice.
You still have not provided chapters and verses.
You do realize these were mostly letters? How would you like a letter you wrote made into chapter and verse? It’s bizarre.
Do not change the subject.
Provide chapter and verse numbers, Lily.
Lilly, With that level of projection you could always work in a movie theater.
As I suspected, we see some things rather differently. You certainly cannot shake faith with such disordered blasts of anger. I am not even going to try to find discussable points in that screed. I sense no discussion in you on this point.
I said I was Christian. I never claimed to be any good at it. Certainly no “expertise” in it. I will keep working on it. I have -much- to do.
Your Bible says God doesn’t listen to the prayers of the unrepentant. God’s word is God’s judgements, not mine.
God almighty, but you’re a self-righteous judgemantal twat!
Because God isn’t your free vending machine?
No, because you’re a self-righteous twat, as stated clearly above.
A wise man once told me, “If somebody says you’re an asshole, it’s probably just him. If *everybody* says you’re an asshole, it’s you.”
You haven’t answered my question, you ill-mannered, self-absorbed bitch.
I’m not one for telling everyone about Jesus before routing them to conservative politics with profanity mixed in against all who oppose.
But you currently ARE all about hijacking a thread to get yourself whatever attention you can! That UC Berzerkely critter I mentioned always came here spouting off with his BS to get attention and here you go on your current attention-seeking spree.
Provide chapter and verse numbers NOW.
Where does it say that, lily?
Where?
Provide the chapter and verse numbers.
I’m pretty sure all of Revelation (singular ) isn’t about God answering everyone’s prayers.
Provide chapter and verse numbers NOW.
Provide chapter and verse numbers regarding forgiveness of sins.
Romans 8:1
Romans 1:8 says nothing about forgiveness. You lose.
Lol
That is not an answer. You have no argument, no backup, nothing.
I said Romans 8:1 and you looked up Romans 1:8. Now that’s funny.
I don’t look things up, you moron.
That’s your gig.
Likewise, Romans 8:1 says nothing about forgiveness.
I made a typo. Big deal. Like I said, I don’t look things up. You do.
Way to out yourself as a liar. Wait, the synonymous term for liar is “phony”. 🙂
Making a typo and admitting to it does not make me a liar.
U naje jiots of typos, you idiot. We all do. That does not make us liars. Take your labels and stick them where the sun don’t shine.
Lily, I’ll discuss that with God when we meet. I’m a sinner, heathen, and all around fun guy. I’m Irish, I like my Guinness and my Jameson’s. I’m pretty sure God understands. He’s flexible about things like that.
Sure, do whatever you want. I’m sure if President Trump passed a law telling you something was illegal that you could just discuss it with him if you break it. He’s so understanding.
The more you spew, Lily, the more you sound like the westboro baptist church (intentionally uncapitalized).
Yes I read the entire Bible about 30 times. I must be an American Taliban. Of course my reading it was for personal reasons. You know General Patton read it everyday too? Of course I’m not really into “Churchianity” or telling my coworkers and friends about Jesus while routing them to conservatism. You would think the way conservatives represent Jesus that he was a human shield against liberals.
…and there it is again – changing the focus of the subject at hand over to “look at me” lily.
Nobody gives a flying whistle how many times you’ve read anything. You have ZERO understanding of scripture or religion. In your self-centered ego trip, you completely missed TOW’s point.
No surprise at all.
You make a lot of assumptions, Lily. And, yeah, you sound almost exactly like the westboro shitbirds. Like you, they’re a bunch of holier-than-thou pricks with all the answers who promote their bullshit as “theology.” Like you, they claim to have God’s will all figured out. And like you, they dodge every question whose answer doesn’t fit their narrative.
Looks like we have another Berzerkley bigot posting here at TAH…
lily is all powder and no gun, TOW.
I mean, uh like, you realize that the president does not pass laws right?
Lily/lily… you must have fallen asleep during those HS civics classes and/or any American Government class at UC. He’s a recap of how our government works (Separation of Powers):
The Legislature (Congress) PASSES laws.
The Executive (President) ENFORCES the laws
The Judicial (Courts) INTERPRETS the law
You need to go attend a refresher course at the local CC or get a refund from UC…
HS? I recall learning that in 8th grade social studies, Mr. Dalley’s class.
My 8th grade Government teacher made us all recite the Preable to the Constitution – as part of the course grade (you had all year to memorize it and recite it in front of the class).
I’m guessing that Lily/lily’s school district dropped that from the 8th grade curriculum for some other SJW BS course.
Don’t worry, SFC D. Never gonna happen. Lily is not what lily seems to be.
But lily IS a dissembling little snot, spoiling for a fight and changing the subject or direction of a discussion because lily is butthurt about something.
I’m only questioning things. Does that mean I have to drink the TAH hemlock and be bashed on the head with a Bible? If John believed what I questioned that’s OK with me. I just wanted clarity and it appears he was only directing his attack at Bilzerian.
Don’t let these loons get to you lily. They only thump Bibles when they run out of ammo to count.
People trying to tell you what is going on it the mind of John/Jonn/Jun or whatever his name is, is like people trying to explain global warming. I have peered into that mind, trust me…its a disturbing place.
Try the Kool-Aid once and a while, just dont live on it.
They get feisty quick.
Provide chapter and verse numbers NOW, lily.
You don’t need chapters and verses to see Revelation wasn’t about answering people’s prayers. God is mostly busy pulverizing humanity.
Will you EVER stop trolling for any attention you can get? You’re making yourself a really unwanted pain in the ass.
Trolling is in the eyes of the beholder 🙂
No, trolling is what you are doing, lily. Your sole purpose in showing up on TAH is to get attention by controlling the direction of comments.
Just keep it up. Make yourself unwelcome. You seem to be really good at it.
You understand nothing about religion in any form, now do you understand anything about God. You cannot provide anything to back up your claims, which are completely bogus but you spit in the face of the faithful. Hubris and self-absorption like yours will not resolve your issues.
A capon is a neutered rooster, just like you.
Your sweeping generalizations are amusing. Yes I’m not bowing down to you. Therefore “God” is offended. You do Realize Matthew, Mark,Luke and John all end with telling people about “forgiveness”? Not to mention most of the book of acts. Read 1 corinthians 15 if you want to know what “Gospel” Paul preached. It’s kind of hard to miss the subject of “forgiveness” one reading forward from the Gospel of Mattew. Your question is like asking me “where” is the sky? It’s really not a hidden topic. If you asked me about the rapture that might require a little more in depth search. Check 1 thessalonians chapter 4 for that one. But wait! You might bother the covenant anilleniallist if you believe in a rapture. So on and on you can go debating. Debating has been going on for 2000+ years over the Bible. Isn’t it time to figure it out already?
There is no debate. Attempting to change the subject for the umpteenth time confirms that you have no support for any argument, therefore, you fail.
It is not your call. You do not get to change the subject. You fail to answer the question, try to control the subject by changing it, and shift positions when you lose the debate. Therefore, you fail in all aspects. Go on, keep changing positions and try to control the direction of discourse. Make yourself completely unwelcome. You seem to be good at it.
I’ve politely answered your inquiries. Calm down.
Calm down? Well, goodness me, what vapid judgmentalism have we here?
No, this is all on you. You’ve repeatedly changed the subject, labeled me a liar, provoked other people for no good reason and seem dead set on doing even more.
Perhaps you should start your own blog where no one can argue with you, and where you can be as holier-than-thou as you wish.
I said keep making yourself unwelcome. You seem to be good at it.
At what point were you polite, Lily? So far you’ve mostly made baseless accusations, acted self-righteous as all hell, and been an all-around cunt—a label I rarely ever apply to any woman, except the ones that try really hard to earn it.
Whitey you would know about self righteousness. I asked before if you have a,problem with Jews. Now you say that you were told you are antisemitic. You either have a reading comprehension problem or enjoy making thins up. You can think others are “self roghteous” and your “thoughts” aren’t going to be the judge, jury and executioner.
What gave you the impression that I or anyone else here doesn’t like Jews, Lily westboro? Nothing I said, that’s for sure. You insinuated and accused. I asked you to back your chickenshit claim, as it was pretty goddamn offensive in the first place. You keep dodging. Fuck you.
Is it time to start breakfast yet?
lily, you are self-serving, self-centered, vainglorious, smug, condescending, and utterly boring. You have nothing – NOT ONE THING – to offer of any value to anyone. Every one of your comments leads back to your useless ego trip. Get some professional help with your problem.
Keep making yourself unwelcome. It’s the only thing you’re good at.
I heard you like to start Breakfast with a dash of loss, enjoy. 🙂
Lily, YOU threw yourself in the pool and now you’re bawling about being all wet?
Don’t go away all pissy, just go away. I too will enjoy the absence of you.
Oh, wow. So lily waited until the coast appeared to be clear and then took one more stab at us all, again trying to change the subject.
Vanity is a sin. Smug and self-centered you are and you reek of it. Keep going.
Y’all were certainly up late. Uh, or early…
Just guarding the fortress that is TAH, Chief.
Obviously, trolling is a late-night sport for some people.
Lily does not know me.
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Incorrect. You are picking fight after fight like some banty rooster in a yard full of roosters and no hens.
You’d do yourself a favor if you spent some time with a chill pill and just back off a bit. Be confrontational with the person you see in the mirror. There’s no reason for you to do that here.
Oh, great. Y’all went and had some big theological discussion without me.
::kicks a clod in the dust::
Oh, well. For those who want to know what Romans 8:1 says:
“Οὐδὲν ἄρα νῦν κατάκριμα τοῖς ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ μὴ κατὰ σάρκα περιπατοῦσιν, ἀλλὰ κατὰ πνεῦμα”
Romans 1:8, however, says:
“Πρῶτον μὲν εὐχαριστῶ τῷ θεῷ μου διὰ Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ ὑπὲρ πάντων ὑμῶν ὅτι ἡ πίστις ὑμῶν καταγγέλλεται ἐν ὅλῳ τῷ κόσμῳ”
You are welcome.
Hey, it was a typo, GB. Typo and didn’t proofread. Slacker on my part, but neither related to the troll’s attempts to redirect and subvert the comments on the article about Bilzerian.
I know, Ex-PH2 – and I’ve made my share of typos plus another score of posters’ share.
I was being a little snarky about the interpretation of the meaning of the text is all.
Unworthy of me, I know, but…
Unworthy? Oh, not so, not so!
It’s more along the lines of supporting and backing our efforts to keep the subject of discussion (Bilzerian) at the front and not allow a troll to occupy or control what does not belong to the troll.
I’m not all that concerned. I’ve been called much worse by far better people. Lily just needs a puppy and her safe space.
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Isn’t Bilzerian that bag of rice that one could cook in a microwave?
I was an instructor at NDSTC 00-03. At that time, we had a policy of receiving BUD/s drops to be potentially placed into Fleet Diving or EOD programs. Every single one of them had a similar story as DB: Instructors hated me. I banged and Instructor’s gf. I was safety violator on the range. I went back into the surf for my swim buddy.
Call their former Instructors, the truth came out instantly: Integrity violator during land nav. Or PT times. Failure to meet academic or physical standards. Fucked up out in town, hauled in by LE. It was the same everytime.
We instituted a few more selective policies at the detailers, and that transfer population vanished. This guy gave it the college try and came up short one way or another. And obviously didn’t learn shit.
Idiots never learn, do they?
Like one of my past Mentors once told me, “You can’t help a fool.”.
Wait – integrity violator during land nav? How do you do that? Does this mean someone can’t read maps or use compasses?
I’m just trying to understand this term, that’s all.
You get offered WPs which, if accepted, takes a huge load off.
It is of course, cheating, and seen and punished as such.
Please define WPs. Thanks!
Waypoint
Thank you.
People not doing what they are supposed to be doing happens on Land Nav courses on occasion, especially the night courses. Watch the Ranger School selection nav course videos. People find ways to cheat because if you cannot complete the course in the time allotted you flunk out of the program.
‘Integrity violator during land nav. Or PT times.’
Yep. Some of the best advice I ever got was ‘if you cheat don’t lie about it’. That and ‘if you think you want to drop wait until Monday’.
I got offered WPs for land nav and refused them. We lost a few guys who didn’t.
I got caught cutting corners out of sight on ‘motivational’ assigned PT and owned it immediately. I paid the man 5x over, but they respected that when directly confronted I told the truth, consequences be damned.
I still have no idea who this guy is.
But I don’t watch a lot of TV. When I do I stick to things closer to my IQ level….like Disney Channel, and Cartoon Network.
But, until this guy’s shit started hitting the fan, I had never heard of him before, and I’m starting to think I wasn’t missing much.
He’s wearing camo shorts and a black T shirt to a music concert.
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I mean, that makes him legit, right?
Just what you see the M’litia wanabees wearing to Gun Shows! You know, the ones that will tell you “Oh, I carried one of those in…” when you don’t know each other from Adam but he thinks he’s making a badass impression on you.
And you guys wonder why I prefer pink camo?
Queef whistle.
I thought Denzel killed this fart muffin while working his day job at Home Depot. It looked extremely painful.
Don’t forget the Viagra induced heart attacks before he was 30.
After leaving the Navy, Bilzerian was retroactively promoted to Poser’s Mate.
Struck an Officer or a Senior NCO.
I have heard that one before.
Always from shitbags.
Turd.
Yeah, that striking an Officer/SNCO thing apparently happens all the time in the badass Wide World of Poserdom.
Yeah, like doing so does not get an E-3 or E-4 a trip to the brig.
Kind of like some loser telling you he was thrown out of Basic for beating up a Drill Sergeant or his 1SG.
I saw one guy try that….
didn’t go well for him…
Never saw him again but I heard he spent a few days in the hospital before heading to the brig and a rapid DD or BCD…
The more I think about it, this turd was probably a Meta gazer on a 100% UA and got caught gazing and breathing hard a little to long.
Or he was working his pud as the 1SG took a dump in the stall next door.
Well where do I start.
So while skippys fellow NCO / police officer was busy getting people to safety
And then losing his life doing what came naturally
This “POS” Dan “Blitzkrieg” Bilzerian Was busy screaming like a bitch dog in heat and running
He stepped on two victims of this mad man instead of helping them
Then he has the Gerbil Balls to call out a MOH for saying it the way it is
Holy Capola what a pice of Gerbil Shit
I don’t know who this dude is.
Then google him. He is apparently Instagrunt famous.
Oh, I know who’s Dan “The Blitzkrieg” Bilzerian is. He is a true hero and taught me all I know about the infantry and the Army.
I was talking about the other dude challenging Bilzerian to a fight.
Very inmature.
You’ll get a few bites on this.
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Come on, I made you laugh. Recognize it.
You know I got you going for a split second.
I kinda figured you were trolling with the “taught me all I know about the infantry and the Army” line, given where Bilzerian served.
May get a few bites nonetheless…
Ahh. I will pay more attention to detail in the future.
Nah, it sounded all off as was without those details. I figured it was facetious or trolling from the get-go.
Funny, though.
What…is Yef trolling??? /s
That would be like me saying I learned all there was/is/ever shall be about armored vehicle combat from Alfred Thayer Mahan. Cause ya know that navy dude came up with all there is to know about tank fighting. 🙂
Whats that in my mouth,,,dammit a hook!
Regarding Blizerian, in the words of my youngest son, “What a jamoke!”
Proud of you Grasshopper.
Gonna bring the wife into it like a little bitch, eh? I’d square him away myself…
Well, you know she’s twice the man Dan Bilzerian will never be.
Run, you PoS, Run. Make sure you step on the wounded on your flight to safety.
Not defending his actions in Vega$. Asking a cop for a gun during a mass shooting smacks of ‘do you know who I am!?’ sillyness.
My opinion of him wasn’t necessarily bad, prior to his conduct with Meyer. He’s ‘lost me’ now with that conduct.
However, he is far, far from Giduck.
Fair is fair. The guy secured from hell week – twice. I can see not wanting to reenlist to serve 4 years in the fleet after being a part of NSW culture for so long.
Starting day 1 phase 1 again after already securing from hell week is a gut check all on its own.
I’m a little out of the loop, but from his timeline @ BUD/S (as uncovered by Teamguys contacting BUD/S and getting the exact details of his time there as a student) the most likely explanations are safety violation and instructors didn’t feel he was a good fit for the Teams (it’s training AND selection). Usually when a guy gets that far in training, ideally he’s consider more likely than not to be a future Teamguy.
Is he a scummy social media grand-standing type? Seems like it. That’s a long, long way from being a coward in my book.
And 2 hell weeks under your belt being described as a ‘failed wannabe’ by someone who’s never attended selection of any sort is a joke. My $.02.
When I joined the Army in 2005 there was a Navy guy who had gotten out of the Navy and joined the Army as an 11Bang to deploy to Iraq. He came in as an E4 because of his previous service.
He said he served in some big ship, I think it was a destroyer but i am not sure. He said he was a M2 .50 cal gunner, and he did know his way around the M2.
I don’t remember what happened to him. He deployed with Cco 2-23, and did come back, but i don’t remember what he did after that.
My take on it was that BLizzardarian here was all about himself and not about the team. It may be something like someone got in trouble out in the bay in cold, cold water and needed help and he just watched while others went to help instead of taking the initiative.
There’s a certain degree of “other than me” that is expected in these guys. I don’t think he had that at all. And I believe that is backed up by his running from the scene at Las Vegas while doing a selfie and then going back and demanding a gun of a police officer, but not helping otherwise.
‘My take’ With all due respect, you weren’t there. You’ve never been to BUD/S. You were never in the Teams. Anything you say is by default pure speculation, no? Here’s what I know, based on personal experience. If he left or was forced to leave BUD/S before completing the school, the only way he got orders to attend again is if a majority of his instructors had good things to say about him and essentially said ‘He’s worth another shot’. Maybe he didn’t ‘show red’ (so to speak) until almost graduating his 2d time @ BUD/S – ASSUMING that his instructors deemed him not to be a fit. A safety violation, however, has sunk many an outstanding potential future SEAL, or seen a sold future Dev operator removed from Green team. I don’t take the matter lightly because ‘There but for the grace of Poseidon went I’. I saw guys that I am 100% certain would have been more of an asset in the Teams than I ever was get med rolled or dropped from injuries they had zero control over. Or a safety violation because a dude was fvcked up from a Hepatitis infection and by the time they figured he ‘wasn’t all there’, well, the papers were filed so to speak. Is the guy a grand stander social media joke? Sure is. Did he set himself up for the big fall by talking a big game? Sure did. A coward? I don’t know. His first instinct was to get his paws on a gun and try to do something. He went about it stupidly, and I think he got caught up in the drama of the moment because he never had the benefit of being tempered as a FNG in an SOF unit. But he did, back in the day, put it all on the line more than once for duty that certainly warrants hazard pay. Plenty of Teamguys get killed or crippled in training, let alone at war (to be honest, until the big helo shoot-downs KIT outnumbered KIA). My issue is people who have never been… Read more »
Oh, come on Mr. Sharkman. I did not say he was a coward. There’s no specific info on why he was dropped from further training. No, I was never there, so yes, it is speculation, based on other things Bilzerian has done. There is a consistency to his behavior that led me to that speculation.
‘Oh, come on Mr. Sharkman. I did not say he was a coward.’
No, you didn’t. Others did and I should have been more specific. My bad.
I’m part of a slight minority. Some Teamguys have zero respect for any dude who didn’t graduate BUD/S. Their opinion and I can see where they are coming from to a certain extent.
Me, personally – any guy who jumps through all the BS admin hoops to get to BUD/S, makes it through the pre-hell week beat down (that’s an actual thing), and who doesn’t DOR – I’m never going to bad mouth them.
‘Failure to meet academic standards’, well, yes SOF requires a lot more brain power than most realize. Talk to a Teamguy who was slated for commo and had to take his oral boards as such, and he’ll tell you that hell week was a joke by comparison stress-wise.
Additionally, academic standards are a must for any military diver.
But as far as academic standards and bravery in battle go, Audie Murphy was as dumb as a rock when it came to book-learning. Keep that in mind. 😉
Oh, absolutely kept in mind. The standards by which people are judged for potential to perform specific tasks frequently fail to take will power into account. You know that yourself.
I understand your attitude. My speculation (nothing else) was simply based on Bilzerian’s seeming consistency in avoiding something very stressful, then boasting about his (nonexistent) role in it, and subsequently acting belligerent toward a stranger’s family, for no visible reason.
“I’m part of a slight minority. Some Teamguys have zero respect for any dude who didn’t graduate BUD/S. Their opinion and I can see where they are coming from to a certain extent”
Thank you for that mr. sharkman, it explains a lot.
FYI, I tried out in 71 when I was in bootcamp, didn’t have the heart then. Somehow I’ve managed to do a few respectable things since.
Realized I forgot the winky smiley thing at the end of my post so here’s two. 😉 😉
I just got back from Vegas and after talking to my former FTO who was there and speaking to one officer
Who he apparently approached for something
He couldn’t make out what he wanted
I feel comfortable calling him a coward for what he did that night I could gig him for walking on a few bodies but from the sounds of it. Well it was mayhem two folks have reported they asked him for help and none was offered,
Now as far as his service to country I’ve never heard anything negative about his service he tried and failed his first attempt, this was after receiving double leg fractures !!!!!
and then turned around and gave it a second attempt
He gave it his best. That’s more then I can say for a lot of wash outs. PS. My other issue with him is calling out and making a Threatening statements about a MOH recipient who called him out for being a coward and a attention whore that night
Pretty simple from the looks of it he ran his mouth and was checked on it
When one is confronted with the danger of attempting to save others versus trying to save one’s self, one finds whether one is a potential hero or a coward. I think we know which category Dangerous Dan falls in. Conduct always speaks louder than words. Also, when he asked a cop for a gun, it was just a stunt. He knew no cop was going surrender his weapon to some random dude who might be a wacko or miscreant.
I’d like to believe that the bottom line is he actually loves his country and wants to help but at this point he is making himself/veterans look bad. The issue in Vegas was a fucking embarrassment. Asking a cop for a gun while an unknown shooter was at large and the whole video thing. I rarely get aggravated by such behavior because I expect it from Youtube douchebags but he should know better and, frankly, it’s embarrassing.
I don’t know the guy but, again, I would like to believe he truly does love America and is just trying to help but these videos are seriously something that not a single other servicemember I know/have known both active or veteran status would participate in. I don’t understand why he doesn’t just make the points he needs to make and leave it at that because this other shit is just unnecessary and embarrassing (to me at least). I don’t want that type of stupidity representing veterans and I certainly don’t want two of them publicly having a tiff over it.
Too much modern pussification and social media pansy status has delved into the service and I expect, no, I personally demand my brethren remember their professionalism be they still active or not. We aren’t a fucking circus, we aren’t a fucking video sideshow, we are members of the United States armed services both current and former and we don’t act in such a manner, period. No more bullshit Dan. If you are hellbent on saying your piece, fair enough/sounds good, but stop the dramatics and stop the embarrassment to your brethren.
One other thing. Again I rarely bother with social media baloney but Dakota Meyer is a young man I have nothing but respect for. So when I used “tiff” earlier I was not referring to you doing anything untoward or ridiculous Dakota. If anything I personally think you said what needed to be said but, still, I just hate that it had to be done due to such stupidity which caused it to be needed to be said.
I personally don’t care if Dan was a seal or not as, the way I see it, he put on the uniform in an honorable manner and if he served his time with no issues than that is that. Unless of course he is throwing himself around as a seal which is a different story and I do not respect but, long story short, I just don’t like public drama revolving around my armed services and especially so when it comes to people who actually served honorably. It’s just stupid.
We’ve all served so we know arguments and bullshit/sometimes fights happen but let’s keep the embarrassing stupidity to a minimum for the sake of Youtube hits. Just my two cents.
A good friend who was a guard member and a police officer
Lost his life helping people find cover and trying to locate a shooter
Other Veterans and active duty people had no issues stepping up
And helping people and borrowing vehicles or “Stealing” to medvac people to local hospitals, in fact one veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan
Had no issues putting people on his shoulders taking them to waiting vehicles even though he had been shoot through the arm and had a head wound there are more stories of our brothers and sisters
From that night stepping up and doing the right thing so please
Don’t fill embarrassed, because one coward doesn’t reflect on all of us
Trust me he made his own noose with his actions
Counter point: This person is damaging his own public imagine. 🙂
“No great country was ever saved by good men, because good men will not go the lengths that may be necessary.”
Horace Walpole, Earl of Orford
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