Jan Spann; phony Vietnam vet blames PTSD
In July, we busted Jan Spann, a member of the Banning, California School Board, for pretending she was a nurse in Vietnam. For the time period that she claimed to be in Vietnam, Spann was actually in college.
Well, local journalists uncovered an email Spann sent to the school board for an anger issue she had three years ago. Of course, she blamed her PTSD from her fake Vietnam service for the episode to gain sympathy from her peers;
She says that she was left behind with some patients on a hot LZ – I’m sorry, but no one would leave a nurse alone in Indian country.
Ms Spann is turning into one of the worst shitbag phonies we’ve ever had.
Category: Phony soldiers, Valor Vultures
She caught teh PTSD from a dirty toilet seat…
Here’s hoping that the school board gets the $$ back from JAN SPANN.
No….she prolly caught it from a dirty needle.
That would explain her fanciful memory.
a lobotomy needle
I get the 24-hour PTSD from just reading her idiocy.
Did she throw up her hands in anguish as the dustoff flew away and the NVA closed in around her? Oliver Stone must have based the SGT Elias character on ole Jan Spann here for his movie…
OMFG. Using PTSD as an excuse for bad behavior? Seriously??
Some people have zero fucking shame
My bad this email was 3 years ago. I thought this was something she just wrote.
I stand by my comment however
She has zero fucking shame, its just a life-long zero level for her instead of just one or two instances.
Bitch.
You don’t get PTS from shit you didn’t do in places you never were.
Cunt.
Concur.
Well, technically she could…
But only if the “P” stands for Phony.
Got the “PT of SD”, huh?
I imagine being busted out like she was in front of everyone for being a lying POS could lead to some kind of emotional issues….but PTSD aint it.
Post-Traumatic San Diego? Yep, It is such a rough town….
Stay Classy Jan Spann!
IMHO she’s a Bernathian grade of classy!
No, she’s a step lower than that clown. He did at least put in his time. She did NOTHING.
Post-traumatic San Diego? Well, if you mistakenly enter the wrong drinking establishment in Hillcrest, your best bet for bleaching your brain with scantily-clad (or less) females is Clairmont Mesa Boulevard, especially near the intersection with Convoy Road. One of the better gun shops in town is also nearby, one block south at Convoy and Ronson. Couple of decent restaurants in the area, too.
“Ms Spann is turning into one of the worst shitbag phonies we’ve ever had.”
This one really turns my stomach.
She would never lie. She is a Democrat and democrats care about the people and they would never ever lie.
Just like the Clintons!
She could make a deep tournament run.
Possibly the Fecal Four…..
If they did the brackets today, she’d be a 1-seed for sure.
This does prove she has a severe level of narcissistic personality disorder. She wants the attention so bad, the respect so bad that she says she has PTSD from combat. It just tells you she has no empathy whatsoever. They need to interview the kids she’s been around because it’s highly probably she’s abused them.
This F-ing biotch makes me want to vomit. PTSD from fake stuff that never happened, very nice. I’d be glad to give her mine and all the crap that goes with it so I can go back to what my life used to be, at least then one thing about her will be legit.
A female with anger issues? Sounds normal to me.
Well, next time I get pissed off at someone I’ll blame it on PTSD.
Now I just gotta get the lingo right.
“Hot LZ”
“The ‘Nam”
“Surrounded by Charlie”
“M-16”
“Killed 10 VC with my baynut…um, bayonet”
no doubt she earned a lot of metals in the process
Another reason there were no nurses left behind in Indian country is because there were no female Army nurses ever outside the wire in any combat zone, period, let alone riding in a dustoff chopper on a medevac mission. Of the seven females who died in RVN, none of them were killed by the enemy while participating in a combat operation or a medevac dustoff mission.
Thank you for some damned truth there rgr769!
8 nurses died in Nam: 7 Army and 1 Air Force Flight Nurse. One died of a random rocket attack on her hospital ward (Sharon Lane, 1969). The rest died of other causes.
And while it’s true that no women were “outside the wire”, a few were in some fairly deep shit during Tet 68 and Tet 69.
And in case you didn’t know, there were no 19 year old nurses (who had to be Nursing School Grads, 22-23 years old). Women had to be a minimum age of 20 and minimum rank of Corporal. The one exception, a 19 year old PFC, was a Clerk-Typist WAC at the logistics base at Long Binh.
naught naughty naughty
I bet you’d STILL hit it!
Indeed. It might give her the attitude adjustment she needs.
As in a “face down, ass up” attitude?
Only with a baseball bat.
She’s not a nurse, not a VietNam vet, not nothin’. Just a dried out ol gas bag that talks to hear herself talk.
Gives a bad name to my fellow Nurses, and all the Vietnam Veterans while she is at it…
Fuck this bitch…
With a pineapple, grenade that is…
Heard many a tale from most of the pilots I flew with that drove Dustoff birds in “Nam ( both Warrant and commissioned MSC guys), and not one that I remember accounted that they flew with nurses on missions. I’m not saying it never happened…I’m just sayin’
Trust me, it didn’t happen. First, female nurses did not desire to go into bad guy country. In my experience, they also did not want to have anything to do with grunts, unless they were hospital patients. I had one at the 91st Evac hospital “O” club tell me that they (nurses) didn’t want to get to know guys that might end up in their wards with terrible wounds. Anyway, that was her excuse for why she didn’t want to have anything to do with me. She took one look at my pin on brass and jungle boots and knew I was a line doggie and not a REMF.
“Since then (when I was in college), I do not do well in the dark. After college my hearing and eyesight are overly heightened, and my fight or flight sense (sympathetic/parasympathetic response) is off the charts! They said they’d never seen a midichlorian count so high before!”
There girl, fixed it for ya.
Still doesn’t qualify her as a jedi.
Well we call it for guys, so I’ll call it for her…cunt. And I rarely use that term.
Apologies to the Ladies of TAH.
No need to apologise. I was going to call her that myself. She is fucking lower than pond scum.
Oh, and she’s also a cunt
“…voices not speaking English everywhere in the bush…”
BEeeYATCG!!! If you could hear them, how come you’re still alive, you attention whoring slime mold?
Could she have gone as part of Hanoi Jane’s entourage?
Maybe she once put a Band-Aid on John “Lurch” Kerry?
Naw, Lurch only got one Band-Aid, the one the Corpsman put on his “owie” from the sliver of M79 grenade shrapnel pulled from his forearm following the night op where one of his shipmates spooked and fired the grenade into the riverbank within the 25 meter bursting radius of the round. Lurch got two of his Purple Hearts for what were friendly fire incidents not involving enemy contact.
Sweet baby Jesus wrapped in C4, Det Cord, duct tape and Claymore mines on a broke-dick bamboo raft stuck up Shit Creek without a paddle, she’s like a junior version of Nanny Lugosi, I wonder if she’ll lawer up and start a women’s auxiliary of the DRG?
I have a trigger song for her that was popular in the 1/101st in ’68…to the tune of Jingle Bells:
“Jingle Bells
Mortar Shells
VC in the grass
Take this Merry Christmas and shove it up your ass”
Hope that makes her go put on a vest and doo rag and go hide with her dog.
So she behaved in an uncivilized manner a couple years ago, and she lies and blames it on PTSD from her non-existent Vietnam service.
My favorite graduate of the US Naval Academy had this to say on the subject of liars
“Lying to other people is your business, but I tell you this: once a man gets a reputation as a liar, he might as well be struck dumb, for people do not listen to the wind”
I have a theory that Janis Spann’s claims aren’t made from whole cloth. Somewhere in the past is a link to Vietnam and nurses that she has managed to embellish into a false back story.
One possibility is that Spann was apparently a medical microbiology student at Cal State Long Beach during the ’68-’71 time frame. It so happens that Long Beach State is about two miles away from what was then the Naval Regional Medical Center, Long Beach which was opened in ’67 and closed in ’94. Its former site is now the Long Beach Town Center mall.
Connect the dots. A med micro-bio student who might have wanted part-time work and/or training is enrolled near a new major med center that “served as a primary debarkation point for personnel returning to the continental United States via air medical evacuation.” During a war.
Nah. She was more likely a war protester.
being a minimally trained undergraduate with a microbiology degree only qualifies a person to …go to more college
IDC SARC, you and 26Limabeans are welcome to bust my chops on this if you want to. I’ll cheerfully admit that what I’m pointing out is mainly a matter of speculation to explain the origin of Spann’s bullshit story. Somehow, I have a hard time believing the woman woke up one morning and out of the clear blue said, “You know what? Today I’m going to be an ex-ninja-nurse-dustoff-combat-med-mama.” Or whatever.
I also think it’s fair to say we’ve seen a lot of people slouch through the annals of TAH who had a kernel of truth going, and decided to make it a false heroic epic.
It’s also at least plausible that Spann might not have needed a degree to work in the Naval Med Center at the time. She might have been something like an assistant lab tech running an autoclave, or a candy striper, or working in the snackbar.
I don’t know that you’re wrong….but I believe there are numerous possibilities which including many factors such as constructing the persona based on being a female in such a time when female roles were limited
Another possibility for the origins of Spann’s phony bullshit is that she is fixated with the experiences of then-MAJ Rhonda Cornum during the Gulf War; she was the combat surgeon who went behind enemy lines to conduct a SAR and whose helo was shot down and she was taken POW by the Iraqis. It may be that Spann here has taken this story to heart and has transferred Cornum’s heroism and ordeal into Spann’s own fairytale heroic bullshit. It’s as plausible as anything else mentioned here…
I would consider that a VERY likely possibility.
She was a flight surgeon then…became a Urologist after the Gulf War.
I read her debrief at advanced SERE. Interesting reading.
not a surgeon during that time..flight surgeon is a title, not a surgical specialty
She had a Charlie-in-the-bush-at-night PTSD attack.
Is this the real life……
No doubt it is embarrasing to have PTSD like she does, you know, the made up kind that she got from reading her own bullshit. CUNT.
She made money off her lies. This is a prime example of someone who should go to jail for what they did in terms of Stolen Valor. No mercy to this bitch, drag her over the coals justice department.
But given the fact it’s Commiefornia, Governor Moonbeam would probably throw her a parade.
1) Never complain, never explain.
2) Definitely follow #1 when your explanation is a big wad of bullshit.
3) I swear, these motherfuckers who steal valor and then degrade real heroes with comments like “it’s embarrassing to have PTSD” ought to have their heads put on spikes.