UK Police stop sharing Manchester intel with US
According to BBC, British law enforcement has ceased sharing intelligence from their Manchester bombing investigation because everything that US intelligence agencies are given ends up leaked to the US media;
UK officials were outraged when photos appearing to show debris from the attack appeared in the New York Times.
It came after the name of bomber Salman Abedi was leaked to US media just hours after the attack, which left 22 dead.
Theresa May said she would tell Donald Trump at a Nato meeting that shared intelligence “must remain secure”.
The US’s acting ambassador to the UK “unequivocally condemned” the leaks in a BBC radio interview.
“These leaks were reprehensible, deeply distressing,” Lewis Lukens said.
From The Guardian;
“This is an operational matter for police,” a No 10 spokesman said. The police and the Home Office refused to comment. The Guardian understands there is not a blanket ban on intelligence-sharing between the US and the UK.
Relations between the US and UK security services, normally extremely close, have been put under strain by the scale of the leaks from US officials to the American media.
So much for any credibility the New York Times had in the discussion about the security of classified information.
Category: Media
Whoever the Blue Falcon(s) was(were) that did this needs caught and punished.
Stupid SOB(s).
They need to get a late night visit from “Mr. Clark”!
Mr. Clark would be the appropriate individual to help them see the error of their ways.
This is so bad, on so many levels, for so many reasons.
We cannot afford for the Brits to go silent on intelligence simply because the idiots in DC can’t keep their goddam mouths shut.
It’s the ‘scoop’ thing. The outlet that throws it into the public arena gets the street creds for the ‘scoop’.
Most of the time, the ‘scoop’ should be pure BS, so that the media can be made to look like the damned parasites they are. I hope that day comes soon.
I’m with Graybeard. Leakers should be identified, and fired, demoted, or whatever punishment fits the gravity of the leak. Enough! All ths breathless Snowden nonsense. Trash your country to make yourself feel morally superior, or indulge your grudges against people.
But these are the same people who relish every opportunity to trash their country. That happens when you are told every day at your school for K-12 and 7 years of college that America sucks and is the cause of the world’s problems. I think we used to have a president like that, but I can’t seem remember his name.
Blessed amnesia.
Annnnd whoever did this is in a world of shit because President Donald just unleashed the Justice Department to investigate
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-told-in-brussels-that-west-should-focus-on-values-not-only-interests/2017/05/25/7aa1865c-40cd-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?utm_term=.88f68e974b31
Good!
Yea it’s all fun and games until someone says, “Check please and…we’re going Dutch from now on”.
The hypocrisy of The Guardian is sometimes spectacular in scope and subtlety.
In this story, the paper sanctimoniously infers how irresponsible the American media is in handling information; last night it was all butt hurt because one of its reporters, just a humble hard-working American journalist, was “body-slammed” by a GOP candidate in a Montana special congressional race.
and Gianforte won nonetheless according to this mroning’s news. Wonder if he got more votes due to that?
This is no longer “Bring down the Trump administration”, it has become “bring down the US Government”.
Dishonest people, crooks, et veteran, tend to keep pushing limits, keep expanding what they do. These idiots are quite happy to wreck it all, so they can play “resistance”.
And they have no concern that they are serving the interests of hostile foreign powers through their activities. In fact, soem of them intend exactly that.
Time to take off the gloves. This Republic must not fall.
Ok that one was spell-check
Et Cetera, not veterans
And when I typed it this time, it changed it to “Eat Center”.
Sheesh…
So your spell-check auto-corrupt never took Latin, huh?
In another item at work, its auto-correct is changing words slightly misspelled into German. We have no clue why.
Startign > Stuttgart
And so forth
Spell Check and Autocorrect can sometimes be real Mother Forklifts.
Here’s hoping that it was a set up to narrow the scope of the investigation already under way. It sure would be sweet if different suspected leakers were each given tidbits of info to see which details appeared on various front pages.
You give the powers that be WAY too much credit for thinking ability. After all, we are talking about DC here.
There are two kinds of leaks happening right now. The first and most prevalent lately are people with an agenda trying to sway public opinion, such as trying to damage Trump. The second, and what I think is the root of the bombing news leaks, are people who want to think they are important so give this material to the press, then look at the coverage and think “I did that”.
The first group thinks the ends justify the means, so what they did isn’t wrong. The second think there is no real harm since too much is kept secret. Why the first Machiavellian belief is wrong I feel is obvious. The problem with the second is it means the leaker thinks they know all the ramifications of their actions, which they don’t, so their ego, conceit, lack of self-worth, etc., end up putting others in harms way. It was being kept secret for a reason.
I’m torn though whether long prison sentences are best (with shoutouts to Bubba, Thor, “Tiny”, and crew), or lots of hot tar, feathers, and stocks are. Maybe both – could we swing that? Being in stocks would make the Bubba crew’s job easier.
My money is on long prison terms.
I completely agree with your comment. Too many times I have seen allies and operations burned down range because some civilian or REMF back in DC wanted to play nice with the press. I tend to think they do it because they think it gives them influence and prestige. It’s pretty sickening when an ally says hey we are going to do this for you but we need you to keep it secret; then some idiot in the beltway leaks it to the press because they think it’s a good story. Guess what the ally says? Sorry we can’t help you now because the US didn’t keep their yap shut.
The leakers seem to forget that OCA rests with whoever gave us the info. That means you need permission to release to anyone outside that agreement. The other issue is the government really needs to look hard at how many people have clearances and who is cleared for what. I submit that there are way too many people with access to need to know information.
As for a sentence, I suggest air dropping them into Syria or Somalia or even Yemen sans parachute and tell them to have fun on the way down.
You’re channeling Clancy there, aren’t you?
Anything’s possible. 😉
Seriously, it really would not require very many trusted people to set it up and verify the results.
And, no, I don’t give the children in DC much credit for smarts at all. There are, however, enough adults there now to make all sorts of deals work.
To stop this asinine behavior
1st you need to identify the sore loser that is behind all of this, the “bitch of Chappaqua” would be a good place to start and any of her followers left in our government as well as the recent past POTUS and his squirrelly minions, then also go after the money behind them , starting with that NAZI lovin’ Hungarian Jew, who has stated he wants a new world order.
They all need to feel the tightening of the noose around their necks as their brains are denied O2 and their necks are snapped, for their heinously traitorous crimes against the American citizenry.
UK law allows the gov’t to tell media not to publish something under what are termed D Notices. The UK is also into blocking a great deal of internet trash, but not sites glorifying terrorism. So, I say F the Brits, generally speaking regarding what they want and don’t want published. On the other hand, info that they share with the US under seal is to be respected, unless that info is learned independently of the State Department rats.
Yeah the censorship state over there is angry facts they didn’t want to be known came out. They couldn’t spin it which is what they do.
They tried, refusing to call the deed Islamic terrorism, opting instead for plain-old, generic terrorism.
With all the information coming out about the bomber and family there are now a lot of questions as to why nothing happened until those moderates weren’t moderates. No doubt nobody will be held accountable and the police will be furiously arresting patriots that dare question it on twitter.
There is one way to deal with these terrorists and their supporters. It’s nasty and not very legal, but it’s effective. They are made to disappear. Poof. No street killing. No mess. They are surveilled, their cases discussed, and a judgment made. If that judgment is that they are a threat or financially supportive of a threat, they vanish.
Would you like a glass of Pinochet with that, Mr. Allende?
What the hell is up with the government and leaking intel to the media every time they breathe? I’m sorry, but they need to all be tossed out on their asses and have actual trustworthy people put into the positions. People who understand what the security clearance means.
Dont believe he Brita on this. They are angry they couldn’t control the narrative aka lie to their citizens about what happened. That is what they do over there. That is why they are angry. They go to great lengths to hide information from their citizens when it involves Muslim terrorism and even Muslim crime.
If it wasn’t for US media and the non security leaks who knows what they’d be spinning.
Is England not the most watched Nation in the World? With more cameras than any other Nation, spying on their people non stop?
Does not seem to be working.
It works. They get great video of terrorists in action, whether it be a truck plowing into people or a suicide bomber blowing himself and others up.
Looks like the Brits have restarted intel sharing w/ the US. Maybe Pres Trump threatened to grab PM Theresa May by the booboo if she didn’t lighten up.
I am completely sick and tired of these “leaks”. They aren’t leaks… they are an illegal action that puts lives at risk and damages credibility. Hunt down those responsible and put them out of business in a permanent fashion.
My gut keeps bringing up those brothers who the DNC “employed” and who had direct contact with many systems. Perhaps it may be a good idea to trash all the current computers and systems and put new ones in. Who the hell knows what those assholes and others did.