“No ‘Wiretapping’ ”, Eh?
Well, then it will certainly be interesting to hear what the former Occupant, 1600 Penn Avenue, Wash DC, and his defenders have to say when Representative Devin Nunes goes public later this week.
Rep. Nunes is Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. And reportedly he has information showing that yes, in fact some of the Trump Campaign’s post-election communications were “incidentally” intercepted – and that those intercepts were provided to the White House.
The information was provided to Rep. Nunes by personnel within the US Intelligence Community. It reportedly corroborates information Rep. Nunes had already obtained from other sources.
Oh, and did I mention that the CIA Director is also reportedly interested in determining the extent of any monitoring of President-Elect Trump’s communications by the former gang of incompetent fools running DC prior to 20 January 2017 Administration?
Stay tuned. This one could get interesting.
Category: "Your Tax Dollars At Work", Barack Obama/Joe Biden, Legal
I think we are just beginning to see the extent of the corruption that exists in our Federal government.
It has seen metastatic growth over the past eight years. Oh, it was growing since year one but the last eight could be terminal.
Purge, douche, scrap the wound deep and
hope it is not too late.
And seal the wound with a red hot iron.
What was the name of that hotel in Washington, DC?
Watergate.
It’s only bad when a Republican does it.
Tacky, tacky, tacky… how tacky can you get?
And why am I NOT surprised?
These malfeasances are the worst in my lifetime and have the capacity to tear the whole system of Washington down.
Good.
We know little right now but should learn more today. The net which captured commo among Trump team members and others is described as incidental, which I understand to mean ‘we were looking for X and found Y.’ No matter. The issue is to whom that gathered info was released, by whom, when, and for what reason.
And the presence or absence of an applicable warrant, to address the question of the whether or not the surveillance was legal. They’re dancing around that issue like Fred Astaire.
“They’re dancing around that issue like Fred Astaire.”
Yep.
“But it wasn’t wiretapping! We were snooping wirelessly!”
“And we wern’t bugging -Trump-! We were bugging all these foreign folks that had anything to do with anyone who might, once, in passing, have potentially been in the same zipcode as anyone even slightly connected to Trump!”
“See? All kosher….”
To be fair, tapping Russian intelligence assets (as in Flynn’s case) seems like something our IC should be doing,… and something a former head of DIA should’ve known, too, but that’s a different subject.
For me, the questions are who was targeted, why were they targeted, and who ordered it. Those are important questions, but it certainly doesn’t seem -per FBI and NSA testimony- that Obama ordered a wiretap on Trump. And that’s what his original tweet said. Dialing back the goalposts far enough to say, “Yeah, well, so my former NatSec Advisor pick was under investigation, a former campaign manager was too, and in the course of those investigations -and possibly others- they picked up some conversations from my senior staff, so therefore Obama ordered me wiretapped!” is a bit of a stretch.
Basically, if Trump’s team was monitored for political reasons (eg, helping Clinton), that’s pretty fucked up and people should go to jail – but there seems no evidence of that right now. If Trump’s team was monitored for some questionable relationships, well, that’s a very different story.
Manafort and Flynn definitely had questionable ties worthy of investigation, and deep connections to the Trump campaign. A few others did too, but to lesser extents.
At least for the initial charges on Flynn, the released check copies show that payment was made via the company to Leading Authorities. Had the checks been from the Russian Government to Flynn, there would be a case, but “a company with ties to the Russian Government” is not a government entity. Bank of America has certainly had dealings and ties with the US Government, but you would hardly call a speaker they hire for a company rah-rah session an agent of the US government.
Funny no one is mentioning the $500K Moscow dinner at which Bill Clinton was the speaker.
I am looking at how carefully questions are being answered – no broad-bush denials, but very careful parsing of answers like “The Justice Department did not wiretap” (How about anyone else?) or “The President could not ask that” (but if he made his desires known, a la “Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?” who could have responded?) Seems like some very carefully phrased responses which give the impression of broad answers but which are very, very specific.
Zactly. If ever there was a situation in which word choice meant everything, this is it. Asked the right question the right way today and what was given in answer yesterday from a differently worded question going to the same subject matter changes dramatically.
There is also no mention in the MSM of the multiple donations a connections between the Clinton foundations and multiple Russian entities and enterprises. They also have completely ignored Podesta’s financial connections to the Kremlin’s pet bank and other Russian financial institutions. Anything that doesn’t support the false Democrat propaganda narrative goes down the memory hole.
All BS – no Effing way Obama didn’t know NSA was monitoring Trump. He may have had Valerie in the middle, but he knew.. The premise is that Russia was influencing the American election process – you really think they wouldn’t brief POTUS on an issue so very important to National Security???
So was it done for political gain or was this just routine surveillance that the IC is expected to do to ensure there is no collusion with foreign intelligence? I was no fan of Obummer and I think Trump is an idiot…at least he’s a Republican…but let’s try to be a little objective here.