Ah, Adult Leadership

| February 23, 2017

The article’s title gives the BLUF:

Gitmo likely to stay open for business under Trump, say top aides

The article also goes on to note that yet another “Gitmo grad”, Jamal Malik al-Harith, is believed to have carried out a suicide attack IVO Mosul earlier this week.  It also lists 12 others that have been verified as having returned to terrorist activities after being released from Gitmo.

Adult leadership again in the Oval Office.  That’s quite . . . nice.

Category: Terror War

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Frankie Cee

While many of us here see this from the military perspective, I have noticed the same refreshing breath of life throughout the Executive Branch. We are on the way to a brighter day.

MSG Eric

I would say that keeping GTMO open at this point would be more viable for us in the long run.

Returning to the days of, “Oh, you’re a terrorist? We have a special place for you. Good luck.” would be a worthwhile thing. I’m betting some of our allies would like the ability to check-in some guests too.

Anything can be used as extremist propaganda, so who gives a shit.

No matter what he does with it, the leftists will never say Obama was a coward wouldn’t make a decision one way or the other on GTMO and did the quiet slip them out in the middle of the night tactic as much as he could the whole time. But, he still didn’t close it like he said he would, among other things.

At the end of the day, there are bad people in the world who want to do bad things to good people, or even people, and will do it unless we deal with them.

26Limabeans

Not only did he not close it, he did not give the whole shebang back to Cuba like he wanted. Perhaps he got all wee weed up over Cuba’s snubbing of his visit after the fact. Petty little man that Barry.

Yef

Yeah. Totally.
I agree.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

It’s hard to imagine that the people we’ve been holding at Gitmo might return to what they were doing before we put them there….the last administration must have thought a few years in prison would turn them into blue jeans loving democracy fans.

In an endless war apparently we’ll need to keep some prisoners endlessly.

rgr769

I vote for the rope solution. Applied properly there is never a repeat offender.

Wilted Willy

I hope President Trump fills the place to capacity!

SFC D

But if we load it to capacity, won’t it unbalance the island and cause it to capsize?

Graybeard

Just give our guys lifejackets and put irons on the bad guys. If it tips, we’ve got a win-win.

Carlton G. Long

For some reason, your comment made me think about how some “humanitarian” groups would complain about overcrowding…

And that reminded me of the movie “Patton” when the general said that someone complained about there not being enough latrines for the prisoners his forces had captured. He said, “Hell, they didn’t even know what a latrine was until I showed ’em.”

Ex-PH2

I read some article online complaining about Mr. Trump’s tendency to be ‘reactive’ instead of ‘pensive’, meaning thinking about the effects of what he might say when he goes twitterpated with something. The angst was tangible. The warning was a disastrous time ahead. Okay.

Of course, it contrasts loudly with the slackadaisical attitude and diffidence of the previous employee in that job.

The difference is that Pres. Trump does give a flying fart in space about the job and this country, and the previous employee didn’t.

In re: suicide bombers in the Middle East: I found some online drone videos of car bombers and truck bombers in action. Some of those explosions were quite spectacular. If all of those dirt scrabblers could be persuaded to engage in that behavior – just light yourself up, fella! – it might solve the problem. I could not see what the destinations were for some of them because some of the appeared to detonate on empty highways.

Dapandico

Can’t be, he was the honor grad in his Gitmo yoga class.

ex-OS2

Obama has a lot of blood on his hands.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

We all have a lot of blood on our hands…our own soldiers in a pointless war that achieved nothing except…well what did it achieve exactly? Did I miss the part of Afghanistan and Iraq becoming freedom loving democracies or at least stable dictatorships?

Lots of dead people, not much to show for it….lost of warriors with horrible wounds who’ll never be the same as they were before. We don’t even treat them right when they get back…

We the people, we are responsible. We vote, we decide who represents us…everything that is done by those we elect is done in our name and with our consent since we the governed consent to the process and participate freely.

There is no moral high ground. There is a lot of pretense, but not much moral high ground in reality.

We discipline our soldiers who speak out or act against the bacha bazi boys practices of our “allies”….Obama has blood on his hands indeed, but there’s plenty to go around.

ex-OS2

You are absolutely correct VOV, I appreciate you reminding me of that simple truth.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

I meant to say “the blood of our own soldiers on our hands”, in the interest of clarity.

I wanted to make it clear that we the people agreed to put these kids in a place where they die and get wounded horribly and for reasons that are not exactly clear and for outcomes that don’t seem to change much….

I don’t deny Obama is responsible for escalating the drone war, and that the press and his supporters remained oddly quiet about those killings and the amount of ordnance being dropped….26,000 bombs in 2016 alone on 7 different countries none of whom have received a declaration of war….

It’s a mess and I didn’t mean to be a preachy wanker….

ex-OS2

I concur. You are not a preachy wanker, discussion is healthy.

My comment was directed towards prisoners that were released and returned to the battlefield.

Graybeard

At least not any preachy-er than the rest of us.

Yef

Nobody put a gun to my head and forced me join the army.
I did it because i believe in what America stands for and in the moral righteousness of our cause.
They attacked us first and deliberately targeted our civilians.

Bill M

“Ronald Fiddler, known as Jamal Udeen Al-Harith, detonated a car bomb at an Iraqi army base in Tal Gaysum, the BBC reports.”

— from Jawa Reports, quoting the BBC.

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Also from the same web site’s comments:

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Now playing. Fiddler on The Roof, and the Walls, and the Floor.

Posted by: Mosul Little Theatre at February 23, 2017

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I believe that comment may be the hands down internet winner for today. I certainly couldn’t top it.

Silentium Est Aureum

Dude got £1M from the British government and still wanted to turn himself into a splodeydope?

Waste of money there, boys.