Banning Manning and Freeing the FALN Guy
Well, now, it really is Good News Week. The Platoon Sergeant appears to be fighting the Good Fight and good news has appeared on the horizon, as follows.
As a great many people had speculated on what would happened to Mr. Manning, once he’s released from Ft. Leavenworth (or wherever he’s sitting on his bony ass), I am pleased to tell all of you that it’s official now.
Mr. Manning will, per this USA Today story http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/01/18/chelsea-manning-lose-transgender-benefits-dishonorable-discharge/96742180/
receive a Dishonorable Discharge and as a consequence of that, lose ALL his military-related benefits, including VA TG surgery.
He is, in effect, banned for life. You can quit giggling now.
However, as there is always a balance to things, the balance for the good news about Mr. Manning’s loss of benefits and his Dishonorable Discharge is that the soon-t0-be unemployed lame quacker in the White House has commuted 209 sentences, one of which was Mr. Manning’s, and the other is FALN Oscar Lopez Rivera.
In regard to the commutation of the 55-year sentence of Oscar Lopez Rivera, a former member of the Puerto Rican terrorist group, the FALN, the Chicago Tribune has a brief history of what he and his companeros did in the 1970s and 1980s. They bombed 140+ buildings, killing at least 4 people. Their worst and nastiest episode of bombing was Fraunces Taven, Four people died in that bombing and more than 60 people were injured. 16 of those bombings took place in Chicago in 1977. Four government buildings were bombed by the FALN, severely injuring 3 police officers. Not once has Lopez Rivera expressed any remorse for anything he did, any more than McVeigh or Nichols did. The only difference between him and them is that his headcount of the dead was lower.
The Tribune’s story is here, and there is a video included. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-faln-leader-sentence-commuted-0118-20170117-story.html
And I still don’t understand the linkie thingies, so my apologies for the length, but the links do work. And no, no photos.
Category: Barack Obama/Joe Biden, Breaking News
If you see HRC scowling in the lockerdome ad, that’s a good enough illustration for me.
Well, Mr. Manning will have to man up and pay for his own surgery now.
Georgi Tsaros or, perhaps the Clinton Foundation? Hell, maybe the DNC will pony up.
Waiting for the shoe to drop re Bergdahl.
That one may not fly, sj, because oBaMa was personally embarrassed by the Rose Garden Summit that blew up in his face.
True dat but it would be a great FU to the military by the SCFOMF. But Bergdahl isn’t a LGBT???…at least I don’t think he is. Unless getting boinked by a Afghan or screwing a goat is.
He partook in Man-Love Thursday, didn’t he?
I think he was partooken. Happily.
Well, as far as I know the President cannot commute a sentence that hasn’t been established yet. Bergdahl has not even been tried yet, but will soon.. I just hope that it’s a fair one with minimal politics.
See: Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford, Pardon. The president can pardon anything except an impeachment.
As i said in the other thread, I hope this doesn’t happen to HildaBeast in the next 24 hours.
Fuck Her. DOUBLE Fuck Fartbongo it he tries it or pulls that shit.
As Hondo pointed out once upon a time, accepting a pardon is something like prima facie evidence that the pardon was needed – an admission of actual guilt. Think I understood that right.
“… evidence that the pardon was needed …”
That’s how I see it …
“Well, as far as I know the President cannot commute a sentence that hasn’t been established yet.” Yes, a president can pardon all past offenses and bad acts committed by a person. What you’re confusing is a commuted sentence. No one can commute a sentence that has not been pronounced BUT a defendant (or potential defendant) can have his crime pardoned. The only limitation is that the crime or bad act have occurred. In other words, no president can pardon a person for some future bad act or crime.
“The President has now commuted the sentences of 1,385 men and women incarcerated under outdated and unduly harsh sentencing laws, including 504 individuals who were serving life sentences.” White House website. Phuker is proud of it and has the audacity to justify his actions by saying that these people need a second chance. A second chance? ALL of these criminals were given second, third, and, sometimes. twenty+ chances to go straight but they chose the high risk, high reward route. But oBaMa knows best, doesn’t he? He lets s terrorist out of prison decades early, this Lopez POS, saying he didn’t get to see his son grow up or some such mush. Shit. Lopez made the choice and one of the men killed in Fraunces Tavern didn’t get to see his son grow up, either. oBaMa should be taken out and horsewhipped. Gee, Baracka, would you have done the same if one of your daughters had been blown into bits? Sure.
What I found really offensive is that the producer of ‘Hamilton’ referred to Puerto Ricans in Chicago. The majority of the Latino population in Chicago is Mexican and/or Central American, not PR. The PRs were mostly in NYC, which was the basis for the musical ‘West Side Story’. I think there were more of them going to college at my university than there are or were in Chicago.
If there are any PRs in Chicago, I believe they consider themselves to be Americans of Latin descent.
Try calling a Rican a Mexican or visa-versa and see how long until your ass is kicked. Measured in seconds not minutes…
There has been as steady increase year over year of Puerto Ricans moving into Chicondo and nearby suburbs. I think they are looking to enjoy the charming Chicago winters and take up cross country skiing on the lakefront…. They have a big parade every year and have PR flags all over their vehicles and a section of the city is the fefacto “Little Puerto Rico”.
Bradley Edward Manning endangered US security, but the ACLU & alot of media is pleading the case for a traitor because he is a transgender.
Transexuals are mutilated gays and lesbians. I don’t care what others say but mutilating a man or woman to make them fake members of opposite sex is gay/lesbian. They must abolish this surgical mutilation.
Finally, sex change maimings which is mutilating some1 to make them fake members of opposite sex is comparable to trying to make a man a fake animal because he thinks he is an animal trapped in a human body. Most feminists are not speaking against this. 1 would hope that feminists would oppose the mutilation that happened to Chastity Sun Bono as feminists have spoken against Female Genital Mutilation which happens in some nations. Transexuals are mutilations which no Dr. should take part in, yet most feminists are not condemning this female genital and breast mutilation as what happened to Chastity S. Bono where her healthy breasts were mutilated, dangerous hormone shots and her genitals mutilated.
Do they not own their own bodies, thus have the right to alter their bodies?
Would you also ban surgical alteration of bodies for cosmetic purposes? performance enhancement? Correction of defects? Repairs? Transplants? Tattoos? Piercings?
with breast implants, if they disappeared, then unless it’s reconstruct surgery for a woman who has had disease, I wouldn’t lose sleep over it & don’t care 1 way or the other. Most men want a woman with real boobs, than operated boobs. I don’t care 1 way or the other about tattoos, body piercings & what you describe. If they disappear, then so be it. Incidentally, I’m neutral on abortion such as if it can be predicted an unborn baby will be deformed, then if mom wants to abort, then it should be her right. But I know the view of pro-lifers & if they want to go through legislative process to make abortion illegal, then so be it. I support birth control but am against sterilization surgeries.
I’m against sex changes for the same reason as I oppose trying to make a White person Black or viceversa because they think they were born of another race. Sex changes are a sad waste of science. Sex changes happen because science knows how. If they knew how to change skin color, Drs. would be making the same justifications for changing color of people who think they are of other race as they now do for sex changes. it doesn’t take an expert to know that hormone shots + the maiming surgery damages the body. Transexuals have antisocial personalities.
I will err on the side of Liberty, on this topic. If someone wants to alter themselves via bodybuilding, or surgery, that is their body to alter.
Your comfort with the alteration is irrelevant, just as my reading habits do not enable you to grant or withhold approval. You were not granted veto rights over tattoos or Ta-ta tweaks.
As to transgender, that is an extreme form of cosmetic/correction, but still up to themselves, not others.
Its a free country.
& they’re doing these maimings mutilations on kids such as giving puberty block drugs. Surgeons who do these mutilations don’t care about the harm it does but they care about money. Then they make justifications for why to do this to kids. I don’t expect these mutilations to go away soon, but the dangers of this must be told.They must abolish this surgical mutilation.
1 would hope that feminists would oppose the mutilation that happened to Chastity Sun Bono as feminists have spoken against Female Genital Mutilation which happens in some nations. Transexuals are mutilations which no Dr. should take part in, yet most feminists are not condemning this female genital and breast mutilation as what happened to Chastity S. Bono where her healthy breasts were mutilated, dangerous hormone shots and her genitals mutilated.
You’re saying some confusing things here, AB., e.g.: “I support birth control but am against sterilization surgeries.”
An ectopic pregnancy can sometimes result in loss of ovaries, and if severe enough, a hysterectomy. Hysterectomies could be considered sterilization surgery, as can salpingoopharectomies. If barring women from having these surgeries because they render the patient sterile, when she may become unable to have children anyway and will suffer enormous pain and suffering as a result, is unethical.
My objection to abortion is that Planned Parenthood not only does NOT pay for any medical services of any kind, but merely refers women FOR A FEE, and the abortions that provide Planned Parenthood with foetal tissue they can sell are paid for by taxpayers’ money, NOT by the women themselves.
Some abortions are medically necessary, as in the case of an ectopic pregnancy or a hydatid mole, which is NOT a viable embryo or foetus, but a cellular mess of tissues, hair, and junk such as decaying organs that, if not removed, will kill the patient.
Your lack of understanding of women’s health issues is full of ignorance of what women go through.
I’m neutral on abortion. With hysterectomies, if it’s to save a life, then that’s 1 thing. What I was writing about are sterilizations such as vasectomies and tubals where there’s no disease, but it’s done for $. People can use birth control for that. Science should be about creating life. I support Fertility treatments and I support In Vitro Fertilization. If a woman is handicapped & or over 40 years old, then IVF using a surrogate is best choice to avoid miscarriage. Hysterectomies sometimes can be needed to save a life in the cases you describe. Many to most hysterectomies can be avoided but are done for money. Too often a Dr. will recommend to a woman that she needs a hysterectomy though it’s not needed and too often, people accept what a Dr. says without challenging. Medicine is a business like other things. For eg. if you go to a mechanic or car dealer for car service, sometimes the mechanic will recommend that you get your spark plugs replaced, get new tires, etc. though they’re not needed for your car. They do this because they want to make money and the more expensive the repairs or replacement, the more money they make. Medicine for the same reasons is a business. Too often Drs. recommend surgeries & medicines though they are not needed. They do this for money. All that is incidental to Bradley Edward Manning, so more thoughts to Bradley. It would not shock me if Bradley Edward Manning was as a boy a victim of homosexual pedophilia which possibly caused his homosexuality and gender identity problems. Traitor Bradley E. Manning possibly had problems long before he betrayed the U.S. which could go back to his childhood. Never have I heard straights blame childhood sex abuse for reasons a man has sex with a woman and fathers children with her. Yet sometimes have heard gays and lesbians say childhood sex abuse is reason they do same sex behaviors. Any conduct can be learned and this includes sexual conduct. There are homosexuals and lesbians who say that childhood sex abuse… Read more »
Yeah – okay, douchebyproduct, if you EVER grow ovaries, Fallopian tubes and a uterus, let us all know what it feels like to have endometriosis or massive fibroids, and other, similar things that are not life threatening but create debilitating pain and disfigurement.
You’re an idiot. You know nothing about women. Stay out of this, you ignoramus.
I don’t give a shit what your lame-ass, braindead opinion is. It is worthless. You are NOT one of us, so fuck off.
Here’s an article which admits many hysterectomies are not needed see http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/287736.php
You should stop being arrogant, haughty & rude, because you don’t know all the answers. Medicine is a business like almost anything else. I’m guessing that what article omits are Drs. doing hysterectomies because they want to make money, though it’s not needed.
You sound like you have vested interest in this as you’re offended that some of us would challenge, as it sounds like you want us to accept what is said w/o challenging.
AB comes across as someone who may have issues with their own gender/sexual orientation…..
Yeah, and a one trick pony. Don’t know what interest a mil blog holds for such people.
If there is 1 thing I really can’t stand, it’s the use of 1 in prose when 1 isn’t using 1 as a number. I understand 1’s misuse in this era of texting. However, when 1 is not texting and misuses it, it’s an irksome thing. In this instance, I believe the remedy is to go nuclear and employ both the copper topper and the gold foil.
Vinegar spray. Can’t forget to quench the ions.
Yeah, I think my message was clear. Whatever AB is, it is NOT and never has been female and will not be in this lifetime. BUT – in its next lifetime, I hope it comes back as a woman with a double uterus and severe endometriosis.
Couldn’t wish it on a dumber twit.
The Chief of service for Johns Hopkins is reported to have said “treating gender dis-morphia with gender reassignment surgery; is like treating eating disorders with liposuction” (paraphrased).
At first I was pissed when I heard about Brad getting his sentence commuted. But then I looked at the positives as PH2 noted, the tax payer is no longer on the hook for the cost of cutting up and mutilating his crotch and giving him HRT for the rest of his life. But I’m sure in the short term after getting out with a dishonorable and court martial, he wont have to worry too much. I’m sure a book deal and speaking tour await.
There are ways for these folks to get taxpayers to pay for their surgeries. That door was opened long ago. When you add a diagnosis code to someone’s desires, that’s what happens.
I think we as taxpayers can absolutely facilitate the amputation of Bradley Manning’s junk. But since we are footing the bill, we get to decide the manner of the amputation. As you all know, I favor furnishing him with a pair of rusty office scissors and a Bic lighter. He can do it himself, and We The People are out about five bucks or so. Everybody wins!
And if the little shitstain fails to properly cauterize the site post-amputation and bleeds out, then justice will have been served.
Man, Obama, commuting Manning’s sentence, THAT takes balls. Or not.
What? No spew alert? Aw, ChipNASA!
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still think they oughta put the little f***** in GenPop until his discharge, or death whichever happens first. I know which one I am rooting for…
And it irritates the hell out of me that the media continues to refer to that busted-to-E3 jerk as a former “intelligence officer”. I mean, I know that groups him with Lars (which is sort of appropriate) but a damn insult to the other real intel officers here and elsewhere.
Hmm.
Some may question hour Zampolit’s conduct, or consider it dubious, but you just made a very, very odious comparison.
Might want to either specify the reason, or walk it back. it seems… excessive to me.
I think David was merely pointing out the fact that the press refers to Bradley as a “former intelligence officer”, which we all know he never was. Lars, bless his heart, actually was.
I know, right? Is Manning really THAT bad?
Is Manning really that bad? He picked a fight with a female soldier over in (wherever he was) and she beat the crap out of him.
Apparently, from what I’ve seen elsewhere, he was disruptive and dysfunctional from the very beginning of his service.
Just now, I get the humor value of how I phrased what I said. I did not realize I left the “direction” of comparison ambiguous. That was actually quite unintentional.
Despite my occasional difference of opinion with Zampolit, I do not think his antics remotely qualify as the kind of despicable shitbaggery for which Manning was tried and convicted.
I was hoping the tax payers would at least escape paying for Manning’s surgery, so there is that.
There was a general who was a leaker whose sentence was commuted as well; his name escapes me.
How long before we see a Go Fund Me for Manning to get his wangerectomy done?
I’d donate $5 to get his mouth sewn shut.
So, let me get this straight, Bradley “Man”ning gets released from federal prison, where we taxpayers foot the cost for gender-reassignment procedures and tossed on the street? I’m okay with that. He has no right to wear any uniform, and personally I think even a prison uniform is above someone of his ilk. Granted, there are plenty who will embrace him (ugh, just don’t think of that in literal terms), but outside of a small circle of anti-American LGBTQIDKWTF types and their apologists he’ll be ostracized. Hell, some of those who support his transgenderism will probably be hesitant to be seen in public with him. Got it, gender dysphoria is the latest rage these days–former Olympians, rock stars, and others are all over television and radio–but Manning’s celebrity came about in a very distasteful manner. He’s already served almost seven years and will leave prison as a suicidal traitor and convicted felon who proved his inability to adapt to a desk job and demonstrates a lack of respect for authority time and again. Let’s look at two vastly different possible outcomes: 1) Manning is released and, without having someone there to save him from himself (as constant supervision at Leavenworth provided), takes his own life within months. 2) Manning becomes the darling of the liberal media; gets multiple book deals (autobiography, knee deep in the shit–about Iraq, and finally a fiction series about a Bond-esque Intel analyst who has the ability to change genders); and becomes a consultant for a number of cable news shows, getting his face splashed all over TV and ultimately landing a reality TV show called “Inside Out–in the Hole with Chelsea”. The reality will probably be somewhere in the middle. He’ll likely be propped up by his supporters until they tire of him or find a new trend (what’s next, maybe finally murdering hermaphrodites will become the “in” thing?), but I don’t really see him living a life of fulfillment. He’s not going to be a welcome face in over 99% of America; the Army and even prison will seem tame by comparison. He has… Read more »
Damn it, typo in the last sentence “he”, not “be”.
Once he’s out of prison, there won’t be anyone to watch him 24/7 to make sure he doesn’t commit suicide. . .
We should be grateful for small favors, shouldn’t we?
At least Obumbles didn’t pardon him. Commuting the sentence leaves the conviction in place along with the dishonorable discharge, which is a felony conviction. No benies, no transgender surgery on the taxpayers dime, no right to vote. He could have pardoned him which would have wiped the slate clean. At least there’s that. Frankly I’d rather see him rot in Leavenworth.
Exactly, Bill. There’s still time for it, but ohh so very short.
Oh, and no guns either, with the conviction in place.
(I had posted this in the wrong thread.)
I just now received an e-mail from the VFW.
When Obama commuted Manning’s sentence, he also commuted the sentence of PFC Dwight Loving, a double murderer on Death Row.
Here is the URL:
http://www.vfw.org/news-and-publications/press-room/archives/2017/1/vfw-critical-of-presidents-military-commutations-pardon
Just keeps getting better and better doesn’t it?
/sarc
Just one slap after another! Is he gone yet?
We are not safe until exactly noon tomorrow. Then, but for the lifetime secret service protection, he has all of the power and authority that you do. His influence, I’m sorry to say, will be greater. Rent-an-ex-president is a damn lucrative business.