James Cartwright charged in release of classified information
According to NBC2, former vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General James Cartwright is due in court today to answer to charges that he lied to investigators in regards to some classified information he released;
Cartwright…falsely told investigators that he was not the source of classified information contained in a book by New York Times journalist David Sanger, according to charging documents unsealed by prosecutors.
Neither the book nor the classified subject is identified in court papers. But Sanger has written about a covert cyberattack on Iran’s nuclear facilities and the use of a computer virus called Stuxnet to temporarily disable centrifuges that the Iranians were using to enrich uranium.
It looks like he pleaded guilty in a deal with prosecutors;
Prosecutors say Cartwright was charged via criminal information, a document that is filed with a defendant’s consent and that signals that a plea agreement has been reached.
That’s funny because I heard recently in a press conference somewhere that prosecutors never pursue these types of cases because of the expense involved and the difficulty of proving stuff. I guess the defense attorney missed that press conference.
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I’m on board with charging the general, but still, the fed government is a bunch of fucking hypocrites.
JFC! Is there nobody at the higher echelons of this fucking government who can keep their fat fucking yap shut???
UGH!
Today? Apparently not.
Today? Remember 1985? BG Klaus Rimmek gave an interview to “Readers Digest” that disclosed classified information on the E3-A under President Reagan. Yeah, it isn’t just today sports fans. BTW that interview was cleared both thru NATO and Pentagon Public Affairs Offices. Nobody even lost a security clearance.
And that’s why I don’t believe Oliver Stone’s “huge military conspiracy” claim about the JFK assassination. I don’t necessarily buy the official line either, but there’s no way in hell that many people would keep their mouths shut.
Same with the bullshit about supposedly faking the moon landings. Between NASA, the Air Force, and the Navy, there were how many thousands of people involved? No way in hell a secret like that would stay quiet, especially not with politicians and boot-licking careerists involved (of which there were plenty).
Ditto for the “9-11 was an inside job” crowd
With 60’s tech it would have cost more to fake the moon landing than actually do it.
They did fake it, sadly they used stanley kubrick to do it, and he made them fake it on the moon.
True that … actually, in 1969, we had the technology (barely, it seems) to put men on the moon and bring them back safely.
What we did NOT have, and wouldn’t until the 1980s, was the technology to fake it convincingly, for any length of time.
Film and computer technology simply did not exist to create an hours-long lunar landing mission in 1969 anywhere but … well … on the moon.
A convenient disregard for that fact is something that most landing-deniers have going for them, and you can’t escape the “deer in the headlights” look on their faces when you call them on it.
then there is that ugly signal lag in the transmissions and that awkward signal origin off the planet. Other than that, it’s all perfectly believable.
Its okay because he is claiming he is voting for Hillary, which is why he got the deal.
If he were a Trump supporter, they’d make him out to be another Ed Snowden and throw him in Leavenworth for 20 years.
Two people can keep a secret or conceal a conspiracy provided one is dead. All of the above mentioned ‘conspiracy theories’ are hocus pocus bull.
if he was another Snowden he would be living elsewhere, free as a bird
I wonder why he didn’t play the “I ditint know” card? I mean it worked wonderfully for Hitlery.
I guess he didn’t have the right lawyer.
I hear it really helps if your lawyer is also a witness and has worked out an immunity deal that destroys evidence.
His lawyer should’ve said “Hey, we want the Hillary deal!”
Because his last name isn’t Clinton.
And another Blue Falcon is revealed.
Will this impact his ability to run for Presidrnt of The United States?
I am all for screwing up Iran’s nuclear program by any means available. But for the love of Pete, keep your mouth shut about it General!
Hey, Hillary did it… how come he’s not skating?
Insufficient “top cover”.
It’s only okay when the hillbitch does it.
Comey and the FBI must not have performed the investigation, they sold their honor, integrity and justice to the Clinton Crime Syndicate.
Cartwright would have gotten immunity or “he’s just careless” finding.
Does his plea deal let him keep his retirement?
Most likely IMO. Cartwright retired in Aug 2011. The book wasn’t published until sometime in 2012. Unless they can prove he disclosed the info while still serving, post-retirement crime would have no impact on his pension. Not sure if it can even be suspended while he serves time – don’t think so (it’s an earned pension vice a benefit), but I might be wrong.
If he receives disability from the VA, they’ll put a hold on it until he’s finished serving his time, if he does. Anyone who’s in the “care” of a government institution (i.e., prison) gets their disability paused for the time they are in that gummint establishment.
True, and best I can tell the same is true for Social Security payments as well.
However, potential effect on his military retired pay explains his plea deal.
I’m reasonably certain that the crimes for which he was originally charged were ones covered under 5 USC 8312. Those cause loss of all Federal retirement pensions. The crime of lying to Federal investigators does not carry that sanction.
Since he retired with 40 years of service under the older final pay system and under pre-2014 uncapped rules for O9s and O10s, I’m reasonably sure he is entitled to retired pay of somewhere around or over $200k a year.
Potential loss of that income would IMO be quite an incentive to deal.
I thought there was no Stuxnet.
He clearly did not get on board with the regime, whether it was trannie Marines or what. If he were a fellow traveler, this would not be an issue.
Maybe he thought the paragraph markings were just sequential labeling?
“There were no markings at the top and bottom of each page, which is what makes a document classified.” – Hillary Clinton (Yes, she really said that, on camera.)
I’ve gotten to the point that I don’t believe any of this shit anymore.
This stinks way more of a political purge than it does about so many retards making high in the ranks without getting caught previously for idiocy.
Well, considering he retired more-or-less voluntarily in 2011, that’s IMO a stretch. Also, per Wikipedia he’d been investigated for improper behavior with a female subordinate, apparently his aide, and administrative action against him was recommended – but the “good SECNAV” Ray Mabus held that the evidence was “insufficient to warrant corrective action” and opted to do nothing instead. Cartwright also was one of the 36 former GOs/FOs who signed an open letter endorsing the Administrations recent Iran nuclear
giveawayagreement.I also found it interesting that both his official photo and his Wikipedia “ribbon rack” show (1) no combat decorations, (2) no campaign medals other than the KDSM, (3) no expeditionary medals, and (4) no CARs. Given the number of conflicts during his 40 years in uniform (1971-2011), that seems . . . a bit odd. How odd, I can’t say.
Looks to me more of a case of him no longer being politically useful to those in DC and getting thrown under the bus as a result. But maybe I’m wrong.
Yup. Ol’ “Hoss” here may have been angling for a position in the hoped-for new Clinton Regime. Not sure how that will pan out now after all of this (that is if the unthinkable happens and she actually ends up winning the election).
Not that it matters a hill o’beans but I’ve seen O6s with more fruit salad and just as much “desk time” versus combat/deployments. How indeed in the name of heaven does a marine officer get so high up the food chain with such limited exposure to the sharp pointy end of things?
No shit, I had more ribbons than him when I was an E-6 with 6 years in. Holy shnikees.
sukn diq
Hondo,
The CAR is awarded for Ground Combat for Colonel and Below, Being he was a pilot the chances of him getting a CAR are slim to none.
But . . . but . . . I thought every Marine was a rifleman! (smile)
Seriously, you’re correct. However, I also note that there seems to be an absence of any Air Medals and/or DFCs – as well as a complete absence of any “V” devices signifying personal participation in combat and risk to person (Navy/USMC rules for V device).
Hondo:
“Hoss” Cartwright was a career Marine F-4/F-18 pilot, and in the photo above he doesn’t have any combat awards. He also doesn’t appear to have ever served in a combat zone, so it’s doubtful that he’s ever actually “seen the elephant”.
As per your earlier comment, it is very “odd”, especially for a Marine Corps General Officer in today’s environment, that he served for 40 years and never got into a fight anywhere. In my opinion, it’s a sad indictment of the Marine Corps promotion process when a combat arms Marine can be promoted all the way up to four star rank without ever having heard a shot fired in anger. Not sure how that can truly be justified.
As an aside, I would like to hear what General Mattis has to say about all of this.
If you read his bio it looks like he had the dumb luck to have joined or left units after some of the smaller combat operations in the 70s/80s/90s. Almost all of his first 30 years in tactical assignments.
He was the CG of the 1st Marine Air Wing, but rotated out of command in summer 2002 (well before the authorization for Iraq was passed.). I’ll note that unlike a Air Force Wing, the Marine Wing Commander is a force provided more than a warfighter.
All his later service was in Strategic roles at Joint Staff, Strategic Command and Vice Chairman.
Remember, Petraeus was commissioned in the same era and had a grand total of 6 months hostile fire/imminent danger pay time in Haiti and another four months in Kuwait prior to OIF.
Monica’s ex-boyfriend’s wife is a buddy fucker too, what about her?
Well, when you’ve got enough “top cover”, you can get away with damn near anything.
Keep your generals in line or else. At least he wasn’t run over by a bus or pulled a Vince Foster.
Years ago Obama and Co. we’re releasing classified information for good press and to help make movies.
With this government the law only depends on who you know and how valuable to the cause you are.
And Billary still has not been charged with anything with a openend ended server and all that classified info mishandling WTF !!!
Ass clown.
So wait, lying to the FBI is a crime? I thought they didn’t question people under oath?
Somebody’s got some ‘splainin to do
Lying to any federal investigator during a Federal investigation is a crime, whether sworn or not. See 10 USC 1001.
Plead “Hillary Did It Too!”
Kinda late for that. He’s already pleaded guilty to lying to Federal agents.
SO, does Cartwright get to go to federal poundhimtheass prison, a “country club” prison or does he get a slap on his peepee for what he did?
“I’m gonna go to sleep now, and when I wake up, everything’s gonna be just like it was.” – Fallen