Scott Goodwin-Bey and gun control
KY3 tells the story of 49-year-old Scott Goodwin-Bey in Springfield, Missouri. He has a fairly long criminal record;
Goodwin-Bey was convicted in 1992 in St. Louis of possession of crack cocaine, illegally carrying a concealed weapon, and resisting arrest. He was convicted in federal court in 1997 for conspiracy to distribute crack cocaine. He was convicted in 1997 in Greene County for being a felon in possession of a firearm. He was convicted in 2008 in federal court for being a felon in possession of a weapon.
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Goodwin-Bey is charged with four counts of first-degree murder for the shooting deaths of four people in a motel room on northeast Springfield on Nov. 15, 2014. Investigators believe Goodwin-Bey thought one or all of the victims told police about his drug use.
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Greene County prosecutors charged Goodwin-Bey for the murders in February 2015 after lab tests were completed on the handgun, which had been stolen in Ozark. The tests included analysis of 11 bullets and 13 casings that were in the motel room and the victims’ bodies, and markings on some of them matched markings made by test bullets fired by the Ruger pistol.
Goodwin-Bey is scheduled for trial in January before Greene County Circuit Judge Calvin Holden on four counts of first-degree murder and four counts of armed criminal action.
So, Mister Goodwin-Bey walked into a convenience store in Springfield on August 23rd, acting erratically. He approached the clerk carrying a gun, a Ruger 9mm, and placed it on the counter. The clerk gave the gun to his supervisor and escorted Goodwin-Bey from the store to his white Lincoln Town Car. Police picked him up later and they found ammunition rolling around on the floor boards of his car.
So, here you have a fellow who is a hardened criminal with a long record out on bail for four murder charges, yet he can still get a gun. Aren’t there enough laws in place that will prevent a criminal from getting a gun yet?
Well, Mr Goodwin-Bey might finally get locked up for good, but that clerk and store manager are lucky, very lucky.
Just a reminder that after the next administration confiscates our guns, the criminals will always know how to get their hands on one.
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There are two problems that jump out to me at first. (more as I think about it). First the amount of time he has spent in jail seems very light. More jail time would mean less chance of being on the street hurting people – here in Louisville we recently had a 19 year old get shot seven times, the victim one year before had shot a fellow high school student IN THE SCHOOL with a gun he had “stolen” from his mothers live in boyfriend. He was tried as an adult but did less than 6 months in jail.
Second, This guy is getting stolen guns, from who? Too seldom do the police try to track down the source of the guns used in crimes. Very few criminals steal the guns they use, they normally buy them from someone who bought them from someone who swiped them. Cracking down on the source of guns would make it harder to get guns and might even lower the market value of stolen guns making them less likely to be targets of robberies.
The system is failing to enforce the law, apply prison time, and go after people who are breaking the law by letting criminals have guns.
Be careful what you wish for. There are ways of “cracking down on the source of guns” that you really don’t want to see implemented if you give a sh!t about freedom.
I ran a history for every gun I ever confiscated from an arrestee or recovered from a crime scene. Most of them were stolen.
But, the problem with finding out who the gun was bought/stolen from is a little thing called the Fifth Amendment./s
Usually, when advising the arrestee of his rights, which they knew as well any police officer, the first thing said was, “I wants a lawyer”.
Controlling the supply of firearms is both pointless and futile. Smugglers will always get around prohibition. The tighter the net, the higher the bootlegger’s profits.
The point is, violent crooks running loose commit violent crimes. Most of the violence is done by a relative handful of repeat violent offenders. If you restrict the supply of violent crooks, by keeping them incarcerated for lengthy stays, you must reduce violent crime.
Then, it doesn’t matter what tools are available, the bad guys are not anywhere they can hurt the public.
“But its not fair!” What? Not fair to lock up people for violent crimes against the innocent? How is it fair to the innocent to leave -proven- predators loose to commit further heinous crimes? How is it fair to turn the free nation we inhabit into a prison colony for all? And prisons are some of the most savagely violent places on earth, so that wont work anyway.
“If you restrict the supply of violent crooks, by keeping them incarcerated for lengthy stays, you must reduce violent crime.”
Gee, I wonder why nobody never thought of that before. Oh, wait, you mean they did, then they realized it might also restrict the supply of voters?
How is this POS not in jail? What judge in his right mind would turn this hoodrat out on bail? The judge should be the one in jail for letting this thug out on bail. I hope Trump will get rid of these liberal judges when he is elected in a few short weeks. Just one more reason we all need to make sure we vote and vote often!
Yes, this is exactly what I’m wondering. How does a guy charged with 4 counts of murder bond out? Does he have a wealthy family? His bond should have been around $1 million, for those kinds of charges.
He is not out, he has been in jail since he was arrested.
He was charged for the 2014 murders in February 2015. He was out walking around with a gun in August 2016 and his trial is set for January 2017. He’s in jail now because of the convenience store incident.
It says he was Charged Nov15 2014 for the murders and that the clerk at the store called the police on hon Aug 23, so it looks like he was out of jail after being charact
Charged with murder
I would almost bet his former judge was Holden, or someone of that ilk. Holden is a liberal POS. Thanks, Jonn, for the heads up on this local critter, I will keep his name and face close by
Holden is a pip. He unilaterally reversed a jury’s conviction of another POS who shot and killed a police officer. Why? Because he could. He did not FEEL that the police officer, who had effected a vehicle stop in which POS bolted and fled on foot, had followed all of the proper procedures. So, how did this latest POS who killed four people accrue multiple crack charges and convictions, as well as HG violation charges and convictions over some 20 years come to be out and about.? It starts with the judges who did not sentence the POS to prison for 10 years (x 2) on the poss of weapon by a felon. Now, don’t get me wrong. The people he killed were probably no great loss to society and I’m guessing their rap sheets approximated the thickness of the NYC phone book, but still, this guy was out and about AFTER he was charged with their murders.
“SPRINGFIELD, Mo. A Springfield babysitter will spend a month in jail after pleading guilty to child molestation. Police say Joseph Presley admitted to molesting an eight-year-old boy on two separate occasions.
Greene County Judge Calvin Holden sentenced Presley last week, and now Presley is in the Greene County Jail. But he won’t be there for long. He was given a 30-day ‘shock’ sentence, and then he’ll be on probation for five years.
“That’s is simply not enough, that doesn’t deter people from doing this sort of crime against children,” said Child Advocacy Center Executive Director Barbara Brown-Johnson.” August 2016
http://www.kspr.com/content/news/Babysitter-gets-30-days-for-child-molestation-390991671.html
And judges are elected there so a hearty congratulations to the voting citizens of Greene county.
What a POS that judge is.
FYI, the “Bey” at the end of his name signifies that he is a self-identified “Moorish American.” Some of them don’t feel that laws should apply to them, similar to the sovereign citizen movement. See here for just one article about them: http://www.rawstory.com/2014/08/sovereign-citizens-express-fears-of-lawlessness-by-rejecting-laws/
Yep-the black militants in the prison where I worked all attended the “Moorish Science” services, proclaiming Islam as their religion but a form that was derived largely from African American sources.
It ain’t the laws, it’s the judges and lawyers.
Bleeding heart libgressives.
Well it’s time to start hoarding guns again
“Again?”
When was it NOT time? 😀
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My guns keep getting lost in monsoon flash floods. lost another just yesterday.
There are people who screw up. There are people who get addicted to drugs and get straight, go to jail, or die from the drugs. Druggies are prostitutes. Druggies are thieves. Some druggies are robbers and burglars, but most are not. Then there’s another category of criminal who are operating in a way few of us not in their world understand. These are the careerists, the very dangerous assholes who will take a life w/o blinking. Drugs or no drugs, these animals are the ones that need to be, as one judge said, relegated to the junkheap of humanity, locked up for as long as possible and forgotten about.
I’m sure he gave the clerk his gun because he realized he was in a “Gun Free Zone.” Dem Dem’s be right all along.
Oh no, one less vote for illary.
No, she’ll almost certainly still get “his” vote. Whether he casts it or not and whether he is even eligible to cast one are irrelevant details so far as the Dems are concerned.
This country is and has been changing for a long time and not for the better in many respects. I’m starting to go for the “take him out back and shoot him” justice for this type of criminal. Crime and hurting others is all they know, all they want and all they will ever do. So, kill ’em!
Summary justice.. I like that idea. It would send a message to the thugs in the area that people are tired of their crap and are able to take a stand.
As for the “judge”… the people in Greene County need to run his ass off the bench and in to permanent “retirement”.
I’m voting for this judge.
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I prefer not to live under “do it yourself” justice. Too many people think they are infallible and righteous. Imagine being subject to “rough justice” at the hands of some of the “mob movements” on the news recently.
Our system needs some tweaking, not replacement by mob rule.
Remember the example of “The Terror” after the French Revolution.
WTF good would more Gun Laws do when the existing ones aren’t enforced worth half a moldy ratshit? Hell, here I go again preaching to the choir!
Regretfully, the only way that pricks like this won’t get a firearm is to amputate both arms up to the elbow, and see that these failures at life never get any artificial limbs that could manipulate the weapons. Amputating both feet would be required too.
“the criminals will always know how to get there hands on one.”
So, your point is, make friends with a criminal and you’ll always be able to get a gun?
It’s time to start providing upscale housing to judges and prosecutors at local taxpayer expense. Housing in these communities would be part of the benefits package of doing the people’s work and only inhabitated judges and prosecutors, except…… Also in those same communities could be located low income housing. Individuals receiving an early release from jail/prison or inhome incarceration could be assigned to that houseing. I think we would quickly see a change. regards, Alemaster
Liberals have been getting by with so much bullshit for so long now that those considering any type of felony no longer fear going to jail. After all, it’s three squares a day, in addition to free television. Animals think nothing of living like that. It beats having to work for a living. Things will change ONLY if prisons one day become the destination any sane human being would fear. Place all gun-wielding perps together, 1,000 per gymnasium style cells with only one toilet, no television, no windows, no visitors (maybe one per year), the nastiest food any human could imagine, one shower per week, lights out at 9:00 p m, no books, no nothing, no guards………….do this in every prison in the country and within a few short years the prison population would be greatly reduced. Many at the hands of other violent criminals, but the thought of having to deal with that would prevent at least some from making the choices that lead to prison.
Lost track of this thought before I finished. Prisons cost the tax paying public PLENTY of Millions every year. Tell me WHY????? If prisons were designed where every swingin’ dick in prison does at least some kind of productive work eight hours per day….You work every day, seven days a week, IF YOU WANT TO EAT. Otherwise, starve your skank ass to death and rid us of one more POS. NO work, No food, No shit!