John Kerry and smart diplomacy

| October 2, 2016

U.S. Senator John Kerry talks after event in the East Room at the White House in Washington

The New York Times writes about how John Kerry and the Obama Administration were being played like a cheap fiddle by the Syrians, the Russians and the Iranians at the latest talks about ending the Syrian civil war.

Mr. Kerry has been hamstrung by Russia’s military operations in Syria and by his inability to persuade Washington to intervene more forcefully. He has also been unable to sell Syrian opponents of Mr. Assad, like the ones in that room, on a policy he does not wholeheartedly believe in.

His frustrations and dissent within the Obama administration have hardly been a secret, but in the recorded conversation, Mr. Kerry lamented being outmaneuvered by the Russians, expressed disagreement with some of Mr. Obama’s policy decisions and said Congress would never agree to use force.

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Several of the Syrian participants said afterward that they had left the meeting demoralized, convinced that no further help would come from the Obama administration. One, a civil engineer named Mustafa Alsyofi, said Mr. Kerry had effectively told the Syrian opposition, “You have to fight for us, but we will not fight for you.”

“How can this be accepted by anyone?” Mr. Alsyofi asked. “It’s unbelievable.”

In the meeting, he and the others pressed Mr. Kerry politely but relentlessly on what they saw as contradictions in American policy. Their comments crystallized the widespread sense of betrayal even among the Syrians most attractive to Washington as potential partners, civilians pushing for pluralistic democracy.

One woman, Marcell Shehwaro, demanded “the bottom line,” asking “how many Syrians” had to be killed to prompt serious action.

The Obama Administration still thinks that there is a viable political solution to the Syrian civil war like a coalition government.

At one point, Mr. Kerry astonished the Syrians at the table when he suggested that they should participate in elections that include President Bashar al-Assad, five years after President Obama demanded that he step down.

Mr. Kerry described the election saying it would be set up by Western and regional powers, and the United Nations, “under the strictest standards.” He said that the millions of Syrians who have fled since the war began in 2011 would be able to participate.

After five years of slaughter, there is only war. There are only feelings of hatred and plans for revenge You know, it’s as if they haven’t been paying attention for the last five years.

Category: Barack Obama/Joe Biden, John Kerry

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A Proud Infidel®™

Good grief, a retarded poodle with Zika could likely do a better job at anything than John “Lurch” Kerry ans I don’t think either could even cook french fries without setting off a fire alarm!

desert

Yep true….that dumb ass Kerry and stupid ass obama and the word SMART ….does not…repeat DOES NOT COMPUTE!

nbcguy54ACTUAL

I’m in the hospital recovering from a heart attack and seeing the words Kerry and Smart in the same sentence almost set me back a day or two….

Usafvet509

Get better, brother!

2/17 Air Cav

nbcguy54ACTUAL: I’m sorry that you had a heart attack and glad you are recovering. As you know, not everyone gets that second part. Do try to follow the script for full recovery.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

Thanks guys. The things I will do to get out of mowing the yard..

Got really lucky – 5 new bright shiny stents on Saturday and home today. Good medical folks out there.

And yep – I will definitely follow all doctor’s orders now. Mrs. NBC will have my assignment if I don’t. You see, she doesn’t mow…

nbcguy54ACTUAL

ASS not assignment. Spell check is NOT good for my blood pressure….

Graybeard

I thought you did that on purpose.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

Well she does issue those too…

UpNorth

As the others have said, glad you’re recovering.

OWB

Be well. Glad to hear that you are now home. Good.

Ex-PH2

nbcguy, I wish you well, and a full recovery. Avoid the poisonous people as much as you can. Your health is more important than they are.

Sparks

Kerry and Obama are only a part of what make me ashamed to think of other nation’s views of America. When these two do-nothings offer no help except an impossible election it just reeks of “Don’t bother us, we’re playing golf, going on vacations and can’t concern ourselves with doing anything that takes any thought because we don’t like to think. Please call back after January 20th.”

Deplorable B Woodman

Don’t forget, “Parking our yacht in another state to avoid paying the high luxury tax.”

LC

Kerry and Obama are only a part of what make me ashamed to think of other nation’s views of America.

Broadly speaking, lots of foreign nations see the President and the US fairly favorably:
http://www.pewglobal.org/2016/06/29/as-obama-years-draw-to-close-president-and-u-s-seen-favorably-in-europe-and-asia/

MustangCryppie

Hmmm. Kind of reminds me of SERE school. Whenever they praised you, you knew that you had fucked up royally.

Just sayin’.

Usafvet509

Cause foreign opinion should have a high priority to us, sure
/sarc

AW1Ed

Can you say “Feckless?” Thought ya could…

feck·less.

ADJECTIVE

1.lacking initiative or strength of character; irresponsible:

“a feckless mama’s boy”

2/17 Air Cav

The Syrians, Russians, and Iranians should be ashamed of themselves for taking advantage of retarded adults. Speaking of which, Kerry looks to need another caretaker, one who will ensure he always has his leather helmet on when he’s out of bed.

desert

That picture of the fairy kerry looks like someone beat the shyt out of him! apparently not enough!!

HMC Ret

Maybe Harry Reid could volunteer as his caretaker.

Hondo

Those in charge in DC today are a gang of naive imbeciles who don’t have enough common sense to come in out of the rain – and then wonder why they’re soaking wet.

FatCircles0311

Good. We don’t need another Obama enabling Islamist overthrow of a country. 2 is enough. We have zero business in A Syrian proxy war between Iran and the saudis. How this administration gets away with fucking arming al qeada and other scum islamists is unbelievable. The hypocrisy of this administration cutting and running from Afghanistan and Iraq but then destabilizing other countries and inserting themselves into conflicts is so absurd it’s a challenge to keep blood from squirting out of my eyeballs.

UpNorth

“Mr. Kerry described the election saying it would be set up by Western and regional powers, and the United Nations, “under the strictest standards.” Shit, they can’t even do that in the U.S. The Syrians should be commended for laughing in Jawn Fraud sKerry’s face.

HMCS(FMF) ret

“Smart Diplomacy/Power” in action! And just think, there may be more of this coming our way if Cankles Wide Load is elected!

Ex-PH2

“expressed disagreement with some of Mr. Obama’s policy decisions” – uh, what?!?

Has he had a stroke? Is it just me, or does it look like the entire left side of his face is paralyzed? I’m not referring to the shiner on his left eye. It’s that peculiar thing about talking out of the other side of his mouth.

I know, I know – he’s known for talking out of both sides of his face, but that’s beside the point.

Either he’s had too much botox and needs to withdraw from it, or he’s got a ‘condition’ that needs attention – BADLY.

(I’m just shaking my head over this. I can’t even say ‘we are SO screwed’ any more without cracking up into hysterical laughter.)

Graybeard

We’re more screwed than the whores in Nevada.

lily

The worst thing to have seen is the expansion of Russian influence on the global stage. I’m really sick of seeing all the conspiracy theorist on youtube using RT and Sputnik as their source for news too. Putin is a terrorist who keeps threatening to burn us all with nukes if we stand up to his aggression.

2/17 Air Cav

That won’t seem so bad after the Norks or Iran launch some nukes. When that happens, you will pine for the days of mere Russkie influence.

The Other Whitey

Honestly, after the last 8 years, I wouldn’t say no to trading Putin for every asswipe currently infesting DC. Putin’s an asshole, but he’s also a patriot who wants to make his country great (and be in charge of it, obviously). Plus, he makes the UN and EU piss themselves regularly, and you gotta respect that!

2/17 Air Cav

He’s too manly for this country. He hunts, he fights, and he does not wear mom jeans. He probably has never watched a baseball game, let alone played it, and could throw better than that Sissy in Chief Baracka.

David

hey, watch the gratuitous shots at baseball there… the administration looks at golf as a contact sport.

Besides, there is almost a perfect correlation between the rise of the NFL as the dominant sport and the decline in the manhood of the average American male. (You could say the same for the NBA and NASCAR probably as well.)

FatCircles0311

Putin is the antithesis of Obama. A leader that leads, doesn’t hate his country, and acts in it’s interest instead of against it. A leader that is a leader? Say it aint so!

PFM

Let’s see, one is a former KGB officer, and the other a former community organizer and lawyer/professor. Who knows how to play the geopolitical power game better?

FatCircles0311

I have zero issue with Russia killing Islamists. Apparently they are the only one with balls to confront these scum any longer.

We aligned with Russia previously to combat a great evil, we can do it again.

ex-OS2

John “D Student” Kerry is in fact a cocksucker.

The Other Whitey

Kerry couldn’t even negotiate successfully when he completely sold out to the other guys. Why does anybody find this surprising?

2/17 Air Cav

Kerry whispers to an aide: “Watch this. I’m going to play tough now. They want nukes but I’m going to give them nukes AND a load of cash.”

Deplorable B Woodman

The terms “John sKerry” and “smart diplomacy” are an oxymoron. Like “military” and “intelligence”.

YaknowwadImean?

LiRight (another deplorable)

Kerry = Lurch/Boris Karloff.

Silentium Est Aureum

Remember, this is what we have to look forward to in a Clinton administration.

.Club Manager

Kerry’s first clue should have been when they asked if he minded if they borrowed his soap. the next should have been when they asked him to bend over. This son of a bitch (apologies Chaplain) is a traitor to our county and should have been stood up against the wall rather than given the opportunity to further fuck up (again Chaplain)our country. Please MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

MSG Eric

Nobody likes you John Kerry, except maybe Jane Fonda, the American Traitor Bitch. Fuck off dirtbag, go to France and stay there if they like you so much.

MT FAO

If I ever needed a reminder of why I retired when I could, this is it. It will take something on the scale of a moab to get their collective heads out of their 4th point of contact.

MustangCryppie

“The Obama Administration still thinks that there is a viable political solution to the Syrian civil war like a coalition government.”

More and more evidence every day that the Fuckhead in Chief is friggin’ delusional.

Ex-PH2

Here’s something for you. The Daesh-held village of Dabiq is slowly being approached by Syrian rebels backed by Turkey and a US-led coaltion. Now, per the article, the area around the village is heavily mined. ISIS fighters have been ‘boomed’ trying to get through the minefield. It is important because it is the site of a final confrontation between ISIS/Daesh and infidels.

If that’s the case, then a very large charge could be employed there to settle the matter. At least, that’s what I would do: nuke the place from a high elevation. It’s the only way to be sure.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-dabiq-idUSKCN1230RI

David

1) Announce plans to attack and seize Mecca
2) Let all the fundamentalists, Wahhabiists, Daesh, Al-Queda etc assholes rush to defend
3) Neutron bomb the snot out of the area.
4)Issue heartfelt apology to the rest of the world and hide the accompanying snickering.

Problem solved.

Ex-PH2

If you read the article, there is some cooked-up scenario which Daesh is using to make Dabiq the setting for the Final Battle between them and the rest of us. It’s the reason the area outside it was mined.

Personally, I think if they really want to have that happen, suddenly clearing out all troops and then dropping the Big One on them might be the answer.

But what do I know?

Ex-PH2

Last, but certainly not least, Putin has suspended the treaty with WDC/bodaprez to destroy weapons-grade plutonium.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-nuclear-idUSKCN1230YN

How in the bloody hell did we get so completely screwed and robbed?

I am so glad I can say I did NOT vote for that asshole.